On 15/4/03 9:17 pm, "a l a n t h o m p s o n" <athomp2 at mac.com> wrote: > hmmm, have you tried other apps that communicate with the internet as > those do (say, fire, ichat, etc.)? > > tried the ping test of your gateway? > Tried apple's mail but not real difference Ping to isp averages 38ms over 35 mins Have asked them to do line check and 1st and 2nd line diagnostics Me thinks 10.2.5 has some quirks... John