After almost two years after Apple decided to put the Cube on ice, it appears a new genre of PC has arisen - the small form factor PC. Shuttle PC http://us.shuttle.com/ ICE-Cube http://www.fica.com/site/html/products/pc.asp Jetway MiniQ http://www.jetway.com.tw/evisn/oem/miniQ450.htm Soltek Qbic http://www.soltekusa.com/product/showproduct.php?productid=1042222291 From a review SFF or Small Form Factor PC's are very quietly and quickly becoming the epitome of the desktop computer arena. Shuttle is really the one who did the most R&D for the SFF but due to a serious error in letting the patent slip by many companies are jumping on the bandwagon and cashing in on this new PC adventure. I first saw one of these SFF boards over two years ago before the mini PC was even talked about and have seen it mature and change as it gets redesigned by each player who gets in the game. --- Of course because they us P4's, Celerons, AMD CPU's they all have fans and are noisy compared to a real Cube. Price-wise they are about $1100 with USB 2.0, FireWire, CD-RW, ... Construction-wise I consider the Apple Cube to be much superior. So here's the question. With the advent of SFF PC's will Apple re-introduce the Cube? Perhaps with a 970 at its heart. -- mike ======== “Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes. And armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.” - James Madison, April 20, 1795