Excuse me, I am new to the list and Cubes, and catching up Two questions ... I cant find any reference to Nvidia GeForce 4 64Mb VRAM AGP cards and Cubes, does this mean it is a no-no? Secondly, what was the final verdict on the Radeon Fan vs no-Fan debate? Do the no-fans die? I have spoken to Apple about this, hours of runaround and argument as first they denied any fanned cards existed and then accepted that they did and fanned replacements were sent out. Just wondered what the troops on the ground found. JOhn