On Friday, January 3, 2003, at 08:29 PM, Thubten Kunga wrote: > Hey! > > It's FREE! > > Be thankful they still let us have it for free and rethink the whining > mode please. LOL It's not whining, it's objecting to a particular form of marketing via extra baggage. There are plenty of freely available apps from commercial venders who don't package extra junk into their installers beyond a startup screen/offer, etc... OTOH, unless you own stock in Aladdin Systems then I see no need to insult fellow list members. If you want to see real whiners, just look around for some anti-.mac forums (or wait for the storm that follows an Apple announcement on Tuesday about certain iApps no longer being free <g>). As well, the fact that Expander is free only benefits Aladdin. If it weren't then you'd see a mass migration to another non-proprietary format in the blink of an eye. :-) John