Peltier is a kind of reverse-thermocouple that takes like 5 amps at 1 volt. I think a radiator is needed for the "hot side". I thought piezo-electric was some kind of exotic high-frequency fan. On Sunday, January 5, 2003, at 01:01 PM, Bill Fox wrote: > > On Sunday, January 5, 2003, at 11:09 AM, Richard Clark wrote: > >> processors get a lot hotter than beer. > > That was my point. > >> Bill i still have my peltier cooler that i took apart to make a >> cooler for my pc but it was a no go because of the temps made by >> processor you have to have a hell of a heatsink on the hot side or >> combine it with water cooling > > I realize the T-E cooler is a heat pump that needs a radiator but I > still don't see where a condensation problem comes in unless the T-E > cooler is improperly engineered so it gets colder than ambient > temperature on the cold side. Water and mercury in tubes also need a > radiator, no? If the same amount of heat is to dissipated per unit > time and the radiators are the same wouldn't they have to be the same > size? > >> On Sunday, Jan 5, 2003, at 16:57 Europe/Rome, Bill Fox wrote: >> >>> Maybe so in general but there is very little condensation to none in >>> my beer cooler. I can't imagine that being a problem when properly >>> engineered and applied on a hot CPU or GPU. But sucking a lot of >>> juice could be a problem for a Cube. >>> >>> Bill >>> >>> On Sunday, January 5, 2003, at 10:36 AM, Richard Clark wrote: >>> >>>> peltier effect coolers have one but there is always problems with >>>> condensation and they drink a lot of juice. >>>> On Sunday, Jan 5, 2003, at 16:31 Europe/Rome, Bill Fox wrote: >>>> >>>>> No Frankenstein--I've seen them (called thermo-electric) coolers >>>>> at Frys. My 6-pack beer cooler, also piezo-electric, works great. >>>>> >>>>> Bill >>>>> >>>>> On Sunday, January 5, 2003, at 08:34 AM, Richard Clark wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> hmmmm ionized air gap sparks bill cool reminds me of frankenstein. >>>>>> On Sunday, Jan 5, 2003, at 14:32 Europe/Rome, Bill Fox wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Saturday, January 4, 2003, at 07:40 PM, phoenix wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> but... has anyone out there decided against both convection and >>>>>>>> fan-force, and hooked up some kind of liquid cooling on the >>>>>>>> Cube? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've seen enough car audio systems do this to displace >>>>>>>> heat, so I >>>>>>>> thought I'd ask. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ..or piezo-electric? > > > ---------- > Check out the Cube email list FAQ > http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/Cube.html > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <Cube-off at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > <Cube-digest at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Need help from a real person? Try. > <Cube-request at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > > ---------- > $14.99 Unlimited Nationwide Mac Dialup and Mac Web Hosting from your > Mac ISP Serious Mac Internet Solutions From NineWire! > http://macinternetaccess.com > > T3Hub | 3 Port USB Hub weighs less than an ounce! > Dr. Bott| <http://www.drbott.com/prod/T3Hub.html> > > Cyberian | Support this list when you buy at Outpost.com! > Outpost | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/outpost.shtml > > ADC Extension | Extend the built in cable of your flat panel by 10 ft. > Dr. Bott | <http://www.drbott.com/prod/ADCExtension.html> >