First an update on the dvd/cd problem. Yup, you guys were right...taking the cube apart revealed a dime wedged in the drive. I guess the previous owner's child thought it was a piggy bank or something. how odd. a pair of tweezers let me get it out and the drive seems unharmed. Anyway, while I was checking out the drive I replaced the hard drive with a spare 7200 rpm IBM deskstar 40 gigger I had lying around. put it all back together and popped in the jaguar install cd's...formatting and mounting the drive wasnt hard, the install went flawlessly. I was very impressed with how easy it was to get my dsl connection going. I was initially horrified at how slow it was, but apparently the problems were on the other end of the first couple of sites I checked because the third site on has been very speedy. Oh...and damn Jaguar is gorgeous....I love the display pdf....my sony monitor has never looked so nice! I downloaded Safari...very nice... also downloaded and (I think) installed the apple X server. There was no indication of where it was put or how to start it though. I'll have to poke around later looking for it (or for docs :) I'm very impressed with the cube's performance. it's a 450 Mhz cube with 512 MB of ram. apple oem radeon (fanned version)...everything is VERY snappy. and the cube just looks beautiful...I love the design. I just finished my Phd, when I find a job I think my congratulations present to myself is going to be one of the powerlogix dual processor upgrades. So far Im very happy with my cube, I plan to keep it quite awhile. Michael. (though using itunes to rip a cd slowed the system down to a crawl - - still for every day useage