[CUBE] iCommune

Tubadude jmcclernan2 at comcast.net
Sat Jan 18 22:22:29 PST 2003


It's readily available on newsgroups.
John


On 1/19/2003 1:19 AM, "john breedlove" <john_breedlove at mac.com> wrote:

> I do want to use it for piracy, can someone send it to me?
> 
> Many thanks,
> 
> John
> 
> 
> On Sunday, January 19, 2003, at 02:02  PM, Sensei (Eliezer Navarsky)
> wrote:
> 
>> Bill
>> 
>>> On Saturday, January 18, 2003, at 01:30 PM, Sensei (Eliezer Navarsky)
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> And why would you assume such a thing?!...
>>> 
>>> That most of the list is against piracy? It seems they are. No one
>>> jumped in saying they weren't.
>> 
>> No, why would you assume that I would be using it for piracy?!...
>> 
>>> 
>>>> For example, It is still legal to move music (that I legally own)
>>>> from
>>>> my home computer to my office computer...
>>> 
>>> Sure is.
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>>> 
>>>> For an additional example, it is still legal to share original
>>>> music...
>>> 
>>> Yep, on the original media.
>> 
>> Original music in this case referred to music that was original (i.e.
>> not commercial). For example, your teenage son's rock band's own
>> stuff...
>> 
>>> 
>>>> The fact that certain software/hardware allows IP piracy does NOT
>>>> mean
>>>> that it is used exclusively for that purpose... Your CD writer can be
>>>> used to produce bootleg copies of software and music CD's - does that
>>>> mean you use it for that?!...
>>> 
>>> Well, Apple claims iCommune was produced illegally so your fight is
>>> with Apple, not me. It can be used with iTunes for piracy as you point
>>> out just like Napster.
>> 
>> Apple just doesn't want (and rightly so) a Napster like debacle around
>> any of its products. Their lawyers went over the eula with a fine comb
>> (next you'll be telling us that you actually read those things) and
>> found a technical breach which was enough to be able to scare the guy
>> off.
>> 
>> Look, I'll let you in a little secret - I don't give a rat's ass about
>> what Apple claims. It is a nifty extension that I personally use for
>> perfectly legal purposes.
>> 
>> Back to you. You started out by wrongly accusing me of piracy. When I
>> pointed out that iCommune can be used for legal purposes you came back
>> with some more "humorous" repartees. You could have graciously I
>> offered your apologies. You could have just let it be. I guess you are
>> one of those people who must have the last word...
>> 
>> Sensei.
>> 
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