Terrible Problems with 10.2.8 and iChat AV Beta

[Dennis Kleid]

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>Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2003 10:00:25 +1000
>From: Heath Raftery <hraftery at myrealbox.com>
>Subject: Re: [CUBE] Terrible Problems with 10.2.8 and iChat AV Beta
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>Dennis Kleid wrote:
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>>I think this is a terrible way to create "planned obsolescence" e.g. 
>>destroy the HD with MAC OS 10.2.8 so Mac users will have to buy MAC OS 
>>10.3. The iSight should have been bundled with Mac OX 10.3 (hopefully 
>>with an iChat AV program that WORKS), prior to marketing. To knowingly 
>>sell something that everyone at Apple must know will destroy the Mac 
>>user's computer's HD is beyond the pale.
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>Oh come on. Look, you must be upset, but still this is childish. I run a 
>Cube + Firewire HD + 10.2.8 + iChat AV Beta + the iSight with no 
>problems at all. Clearly the problem is with your machine. I'd first be 
>testing the integrity of your hard drive. It sounds as simple as 
>corrupted data.
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>You claim that your 'HD crashed' but then say something about a software 
>error (stuck on Apple Logo). What makes you think the HD crashed? Did 
>you hear something? ... It sounds like it can't find any 
>OS to boot though. I'm not sure what the screen with the black box is - 
>it doesn't sound like a kernel panic to me.
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>Good luck
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Heath, Thanks very much for the encouragement. I followed the directions 
for iSight/iChat AV installation exactly as written by Apple. I'm sure 
you are right -- by following those directions I've got corrupted data 
on the HD. (e.g. this is a software problem, the Cube works great!)

At 56 yrs, I've been called "childish" previously. I'm being such a cry 
baby now because I never had such a serious problem running my Cube 
before. (I got it the first week they were for sale.) I thought "crash" 
was a term used euphemistically for a software "issue". It is true -- I 
heard nothing at all. There are a lot of other silent crashes listed 
under "log" in my "Apple System Profiler". Even though the screen was 
frozen, my Mac didn't feel a bit cold. I'm not the only one that had 
this problem installing the iChat AV beta on MacOSX 10.2.8.

Blackbarodeath www.macfixitforums.com #Post545912
Black bar above logo on startup 10/13/03 12:54 PM
640 ram, os 10.2.8, happened right after I installed iChat av. I can't 
get to a login screen. I can start up in open firmware, but not in 
single user. Weird-any suggestions?

Dcarmack www.macfixitforums.com #Post543274
Can't get to the login screen in OS X 10/04/03 11:56 AM
After restart, the apple logo appears, but the rotating activity gadget 
never does. Then a very small black rectangle appears with what may be 
very tiny unreadable, multicolored text inside it. The login screen 
never appears. Computer booted fine in 9.2.2 after starting up with 
option pushed, started up and ran diskwarrior 3 from the DW CD … Finally 
did an archive/install of OS X 10.2 and then let the system updater 
update back to 10.2.8 for me.

I still think it would have been better for Apple to get the worms out 
of iSight before marketing.

Dennis

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