From jmmanno at juno.com Sun Jul 1 12:52:42 2007 From: jmmanno at juno.com (Julie Manno) Date: Sun Jul 1 12:54:41 2007 Subject: [Cube] Need help with OS upgrade Message-ID: <20070701.155242.15385.0@webmail14.dca.untd.com> Hi, My name is Julie and I am a new member of the cube forum. I’ve had my cube for about two years now and I am just getting around to upgrading it. I am a graphic designer and bought the cube because I thought I would do some freelance work, but never got around to it. I now am reviving that plan, but I have some questions about upgrading my OS. I am currently running 9.1 and have downloads the 9.2 upgrade from the Apple site. Once I install that, can I then install the copy of OS X 10.2 that I have? The Apple site states that OS X 10.2 is “a ‘Reference Release’ of the Mac OS? The term "reference release" meaning that the software is distributed as a stand-alone system software package that can be installed regardless of the version of Mac OS currently installed.” So can I install 10.2 without 10.1 etc.? Thanks for any help. Julie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070701/d6c81dd8/attachment.html From scott at strungis.net Sun Jul 1 13:53:13 2007 From: scott at strungis.net (sstrungis) Date: Sun Jul 1 13:53:27 2007 Subject: [Cube] Need help with OS upgrade In-Reply-To: <20070701.155242.15385.0@webmail14.dca.untd.com> References: <20070701.155242.15385.0@webmail14.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <46881439.9060803@strungis.net> > > > So can I install 10.2 without 10.1 etc.? Thanks for any help. > > > > Julie > Hi Julie, OS X (10) has always done the major revisions after the decimal point. 10.1, 10.2, 10.3, and 10.4 have always been standlalone retail releases. As long as your Cube supports it (and it does) you can install it. The 9.2 upgrade is an upgrade for your 9.x System on the Cube's HD. Scott From newthings at earthlink.net Sun Jul 1 15:46:23 2007 From: newthings at earthlink.net (Roy Hackett) Date: Sun Jul 1 15:46:42 2007 Subject: [Cube] Need help with OS upgrade In-Reply-To: <20070701.155242.15385.0@webmail14.dca.untd.com> References: <20070701.155242.15385.0@webmail14.dca.untd.com> Message-ID: <41850F94-EB2A-4115-AD62-FF2070D2BE5A@earthlink.net> Hi Julie, You must buy into System 10. Wait and buy 10.5 for about $120. if you are going to upgrade to a G4. 10.5 may not run on a G3. My Cube is running 10.4.10 with a 1.2 mhz G4 upgrade. Works great every day. HD at 120 GB which is max. and 1 gb of memory. Cheers Roy On Jul 1, 2007, at 7:52 PM, Julie Manno wrote: > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From tlburns at owu.edu Wed Jul 4 14:26:29 2007 From: tlburns at owu.edu (Tom Burns) Date: Wed Jul 4 14:26:40 2007 Subject: [Cube] The infamous Cube shutdown problem In-Reply-To: <41850F94-EB2A-4115-AD62-FF2070D2BE5A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Hello, Cubists! Just got a Cube (my second) though an Ebay auction: G4 Cube, 640 MB RAM, 1.6 MHz upgrade, cooling fan, running OSX Tiger. >From the first boot, it manifested the cursed shutdown/ reboot problem that I gather is common among Cubes, but mine seems particularly problematic. It sometimes reboots or shuts down during startup. When I try to start up from the system DVD, it takes so long on the diagnostic stuff at the beginning that it shuts down during the "spinning wheel" stage of the startup. After a couple of tries, it gets to the finder, but it simply shuts down completely and without warning a few minutes later, no matter what software is running. It's like somebody turned off the power. The seller says he never had the problem before he shipped it to me, and I believe him. (He seems like an up-front person.) I've tried making sure the various memory sticks and boards are secure in their slots (at least the ones I could reach without disassembling the machine). Any suggestions? If I have the infamous "power-switch-gasket problem," I am at a loss on how to fix it. I've tried the usual Mac parts places, and the gasket doesn't seem to be available any more. Does anybody know of any fixes to the gasket (if that's the problem) besides replacing the gasket? Do the symptoms indicate another problem? Otherwise, this is one kickin' machine. I'd hate to lose it. Cubistically yours, Tom B. From mliii at earthlink.net Wed Jul 4 14:32:17 2007 From: mliii at earthlink.net (Mike) Date: Wed Jul 4 14:32:30 2007 Subject: [Cube] The infamous Cube shutdown problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <7DB21163-8F6F-4087-8C3B-FDA08C3AD06A@earthlink.net> Sounds like the gasket to me. When a Cube is shipped, the movement in shipping can trigger the problem in a Cube that never had it before. You can make a gasket using a piece of paper- I used a coffee filter with the theory being the paper used in a coffee filter is a bit thicker and able to withstand higher temps- but that's probably overkill on my part! On Jul 4, 2007, at 2:26 PM, Tom Burns wrote: > If I have the infamous "power-switch-gasket problem," I am > at a loss on how to fix it. I've tried the usual Mac parts places, > and the > gasket doesn't seem to be available any more. Does anybody know of > any fixes > to the gasket (if that's the problem) besides replacing the > gasket? Do the > symptoms indicate another problem? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070704/15b867b7/attachment.html From Ptwiddy at rhtc.net Wed Jul 4 14:37:33 2007 From: Ptwiddy at rhtc.net (Paul Twiddy) Date: Wed Jul 4 14:37:46 2007 Subject: [Cube] The infamous Cube shutdown problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Take the iCube out of it home and reboot. Paul W. Twiddy Past President Charlotte Apple Computer Club http://charlotteappleclub.org/ Serving the Charlotte Area Since 1978 On Jul 4, 2007, at 5:26 PM, Tom Burns wrote: > Do the > symptoms indicate another problem? > > Otherwise, this is one kickin' machine. I'd hate to lose it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070704/23a2fe51/attachment-0001.html From sethwm2 at gmail.com Wed Jul 4 14:41:22 2007 From: sethwm2 at gmail.com (Seth Maynard) Date: Wed Jul 4 14:41:42 2007 Subject: [Cube] The infamous Cube shutdown problem In-Reply-To: <7DB21163-8F6F-4087-8C3B-FDA08C3AD06A@earthlink.net> References: <7DB21163-8F6F-4087-8C3B-FDA08C3AD06A@earthlink.net> Message-ID: Well I think that you can actualy get the gaskets from apple try calling them first or try searching for the replacement gaskets - Seth Maynard On Jul 4, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Mike wrote: > Sounds like the gasket to me. When a Cube is shipped, the movement > in shipping can trigger the problem in a Cube that never had it > before. > You can make a gasket using a piece of paper- I used a coffee filter > with the theory being the paper used in a coffee filter is a bit > thicker and able to withstand higher temps- but that's probably > overkill on my part! > On Jul 4, 2007, at 2:26 PM, Tom Burns wrote: > >> If I have the infamous "power-switch-gasket problem," I am >> at a loss on how to fix it. I've tried the usual Mac parts places, >> and the >> gasket doesn't seem to be available any more. Does anybody know of >> any fixes >> to the gasket (if that's the problem) besides replacing the >> gasket? Do the >> symptoms indicate another problem? > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070704/66ea0cca/attachment.html From cngnhmwa at earthlink.net Wed Jul 4 17:05:35 2007 From: cngnhmwa at earthlink.net (Dave Cunningham) Date: Wed Jul 4 17:06:00 2007 Subject: [Cube] leopard on cube Message-ID: i got a beta developer preview of leopard a few days ago and installed it onto a partition on my cube [g4 dual 1.6] which runs just fine, fwiw. not so sure if it supports some external stuff [fw, particularly] but it networks and gets out just fine. -=c'ham=- From tlburns at owu.edu Thu Jul 5 13:14:28 2007 From: tlburns at owu.edu (Tom Burns) Date: Thu Jul 5 13:14:35 2007 Subject: [Cube] The infamous Cube shutdown problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7/4/07 5:41 PM, "Seth Maynard" wrote: > > On Jul 4, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Mike wrote: > >> Sounds like the gasket to me. When a Cube is shipped, the movement in >> shipping can trigger the problem in a Cube that never had it before. >> You can make a gasket using a piece of paper- I used a coffee filter with the >> theory being the paper used in a coffee filter is a bit thicker and able to >> withstand higher temps- but that's probably overkill on my part! >> On Jul 4, 2007, at 2:26 PM, Tom Burns wrote: >> >>> Thanks to Seth and all who replied. I ended up making a gasket out of coffee filter and putting it in underneath the original gasket, which was obviously dried out and loose. (The old gasket serves merely to help hold the paper in, apparently. I any case, the fix works fine! I ran the Cube for 8+ hours with nary a reboot or spontaneous shutdown. Again, thanks for all your help, Cuboids. Tom B. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070705/87ec83b5/attachment.html From sethwm2 at gmail.com Thu Jul 5 13:29:37 2007 From: sethwm2 at gmail.com (Seth Maynard) Date: Thu Jul 5 13:29:58 2007 Subject: [Cube] The infamous Cube shutdown problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: That is great I am happy that that worked for you, it could have been something more serious. You are lucky it was not some kind of power problem like the dc/dc board that has been known to crap out in the cubes - Seth Maynard On Jul 5, 2007, at 4:14 PM, Tom Burns wrote: > On 7/4/07 5:41 PM, "Seth Maynard" wrote: > > > On Jul 4, 2007, at 5:32 PM, Mike wrote: > > Sounds like the gasket to me. When a Cube is shipped, the movement > in shipping can trigger the problem in a Cube that never had it > before. > You can make a gasket using a piece of paper- I used a coffee filter > with the theory being the paper used in a coffee filter is a bit > thicker and able to withstand higher temps- but that's probably > overkill on my part! > On Jul 4, 2007, at 2:26 PM, Tom Burns wrote: > > > Thanks to Seth and all who replied. I ended up making a gasket out > of coffee filter and putting it in underneath the original gasket, > which was obviously dried out and loose. (The old gasket serves > merely to help hold the paper in, apparently. I any case, the fix > works fine! I ran the Cube for 8+ hours with nary a reboot or > spontaneous shutdown. > > Again, thanks for all your help, Cuboids. > > Tom B. > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070705/5c99eed5/attachment.html From tlburns at owu.edu Thu Jul 5 19:25:56 2007 From: tlburns at owu.edu (Tom Burns) Date: Thu Jul 5 19:26:06 2007 Subject: [Cube] Ideas for Public display (Was the infamous Cube shutdown problem) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7/5/07 4:29 PM, "Seth Maynard" wrote: > That is great I am happy that that worked for you, it could have been > something more serious. You are lucky it was not some kind of power problem > like the dc/dc board that has been known to crap out in the cubes > In fact, the DC/DC board was distinctly loose in its slot. According to Apple, a loose DC/DC board turns out to be one of the causes of intermittent reboots, etc., but that turned out not to be the problem in this case. Still, it?s a great machine. Has anyone bothered to add internal lighting, etc.? I?m asking because I intend to put the Cube in question on public display as one of out publicly accessible computers at Perkins Observatory, where I work. I?m tempted to add a caption: ?Isn?t this the coolest design for a computer ever conceived?? I?d also like to jazz up the display a bit. (I?ve heard of people adding internal lights, etc.) Any suggestions? Tom B. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070705/74458976/attachment.html From frederix9 at sympatico.ca Thu Jul 5 19:41:02 2007 From: frederix9 at sympatico.ca (Frederick Manter) Date: Thu Jul 5 19:41:19 2007 Subject: [Cube] Ideas for Public display (Was the infamous Cube shutdown problem) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >On 7/5/07 4:29 PM, "Seth Maynard" wrote: > >That is great I am happy that that worked for you, it could have >been something more serious. You are lucky it was not some kind of >power problem like the dc/dc board that has been known to crap out >in the cubes > >In fact, the DC/DC board was distinctly loose in its slot. > According to Apple, a loose DC/DC board turns out to be one of the >causes of intermittent reboots, etc., but that turned out not to be >the problem in this case. > >Still, it's a great machine. Has anyone bothered to add internal >lighting, etc.? I'm asking because I intend to put the Cube in >question on public display as one of out publicly accessible >computers at Perkins Observatory, where I work. I'm tempted to add >a caption: "Isn't this the coolest design for a computer ever >conceived?" I'd also like to jazz up the display a bit. (I've heard >of people adding internal lights, etc.) Any suggestions? > >Tom B. > There were several attempts that I can remember from about three years ago, some better than others and some with schematics for power supply and LED hookups. I'm sure a Goggle search would bring them up. The case plastic did amazing things with light, however it was the subtle stuff that turned me on. Cheers, F'k >_______________________________________________ >Cube mailing list >Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070705/9303d7ed/attachment-0001.html From roduncan at telus.net Fri Jul 6 11:29:47 2007 From: roduncan at telus.net (Rod Duncan) Date: Fri Jul 6 11:30:02 2007 Subject: [Cube] Ideas for Public display (Was the infamous Cube shutdown problem) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I'd also like to jazz up the display a bit. (I've heard of people >adding internal lights, etc.) Any suggestions? > >Tom B. Check out Cubeowner.com I found this thread. http://www.cubeowner.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=9510 Not sure if that was what you are after. Rod -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Let me know how it works out! - Seth Maynard On Jul 9, 2007, at 10:55 AM, David Iverson wrote: > I have a Cube with a stock 500Mhz CPU, a Ge3 card, maxed out memory, > and 120GB drive, fully updated 10.4.1. > > In the last week or so, at boot, it started showing a black screen > with a message in multiple languages to restart the computer. > > Now, it is only fully booting occasionally and even when it does, > the display is flecked with off-color specks in a linear pattern. > > I am thinking the card is giving out, and I don?t have a convenient > way to swap out and test it ? anybody have any thoughts on whether i > t is the card or the display? > > Dave Iverson > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070709/6a6d2e10/attachment.html From riba at ml1.net Tue Jul 10 00:14:39 2007 From: riba at ml1.net (Riba) Date: Tue Jul 10 00:14:50 2007 Subject: [Cube] Fading Display or burned out video card In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9C22CFCB-6337-4620-A8C2-E24910110FF9@ml1.net> On 2007.07.09, at 16:55, David Iverson wrote: > I have a Cube with a stock 500Mhz CPU, a Ge3 card, maxed out > memory, and 120GB drive, fully updated 10.4.1. > > In the last week or so, at boot, it started showing a black screen > with a message in multiple languages to restart the computer. > > Now, it is only fully booting occasionally and even when it does, > the display is flecked with off-color specks in a linear pattern. > > I am thinking the card is giving out, and I don?t have a convenient > way to swap out and test it ? anybody have any thoughts on whether > it is the card or the display? I suspect that the cooling fan on your GF3 card gave up, and the card is overheating now. From ronsteinke at mac.com Tue Jul 10 01:07:55 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Tue Jul 10 01:13:57 2007 Subject: [Cube] Fading Display or burned out video card In-Reply-To: <9C22CFCB-6337-4620-A8C2-E24910110FF9@ml1.net> References: <9C22CFCB-6337-4620-A8C2-E24910110FF9@ml1.net> Message-ID: <45362134-F26F-46F8-BDB5-36EE6491B8FD@mac.com> On 10 Jul, 2007, at 12:14 AM, Riba wrote: > > On 2007.07.09, at 16:55, David Iverson wrote: > >> I have a Cube with a stock 500Mhz CPU, a Ge3 card, maxed out >> memory, and 120GB drive, fully updated 10.4.1. >> >> In the last week or so, at boot, it started showing a black screen >> with a message in multiple languages to restart the computer. >> >> Now, it is only fully booting occasionally and even when it does, >> the display is flecked with off-color specks in a linear pattern. >> >> I am thinking the card is giving out, and I don?t have a >> convenient way to swap out and test it ? anybody have any thoughts >> on whether it is the card or the display? > > I suspect that the cooling fan on your GF3 card gave up, and the > card is overheating now. > It could also be the monitor itself is failing. Try the cube with a different monitor to duplicate the effect. If duplicated, it is the card. If not duplicated, it's the monitor. As to the issue of the black screen, you are experiencing kernel panics at startup. You probably have a corrupted installation of the system on your cube. Do you really mean "OS 10.4.1", or do you mean "OS 10.4.10"? If your monitor problem gets resolved, try doing a new install of the system using Archive and Install but do not transfer your user settings so you can avoid any conflict or corruption in the preferences, extensions, etc. From franc-b at shaw.ca Sun Jul 15 22:54:21 2007 From: franc-b at shaw.ca (Francois Barbary) Date: Sun Jul 15 22:56:32 2007 Subject: [Cube] No Sound from Internal Speaker! In-Reply-To: <20070704213753.82728100834B@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070704213753.82728100834B@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <308AA5B8-A2CD-412B-B3AA-022512CAB246@shaw.ca> Hey Cubers!! I've been lurking in the back reading the digest for the last year but not contributing much... It's nice to see that the list is very active. Anyway I've had my Cube since 2002 (i think) and it's been great the whole time. it's a 450 with 1.25GB RAM and 320GB HD. I love it, and use it every day. I remember a time when the speakers wouldn't work, but now that problem seems long gone! Now I know the cube doesn't have an internal speaker... but my problem is actually on my PB867 (DVI) it constantly thinks the headphones are plugged in. any ideas would be awesome. -Francois From atoa at krak.net Mon Jul 16 20:19:45 2007 From: atoa at krak.net (atoa) Date: Mon Jul 16 20:19:58 2007 Subject: [Cube] No Sound from Internal Speaker! In-Reply-To: <308AA5B8-A2CD-412B-B3AA-022512CAB246@shaw.ca> References: <20070704213753.82728100834B@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <308AA5B8-A2CD-412B-B3AA-022512CAB246@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Plug in headphones. Then it will be correct. On Sun, 15 Jul 2007, Francois Barbary wrote: > Hey Cubers!! > > I've been lurking in the back reading the digest for the last year but not > contributing much... It's nice to see that the list is very active. Anyway > I've had my Cube since 2002 (i think) and it's been great the whole time. > it's a 450 with 1.25GB RAM and 320GB HD. I love it, and use it every day. > > I remember a time when the speakers wouldn't work, but now that problem seems > long gone! Now I know the cube doesn't have an internal speaker... but my > problem is actually on my PB867 (DVI) it constantly thinks the headphones are > plugged in. > > any ideas would be awesome. > > -Francois > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From luis_meleiro at cilsp.com Tue Jul 17 01:15:21 2007 From: luis_meleiro at cilsp.com (Luis Meleiro) Date: Tue Jul 17 01:16:15 2007 Subject: [Cube] No Sound from Internal Speaker! Message-ID: Francois: Under Utilities folder, open up Audio MIDI Setup application. In the Audio Devices tab select Line Out as the Audio Output default Source. Hope this solves, LM On Sun, 15 Jul 2007, Francois Barbary wrote: >Hey Cubers!! > >I've been lurking in the back reading the digest for the last year but not >contributing much... It's nice to see that the list is very active. Anyway >I've had my Cube since 2002 (i think) and it's been great the whole time. >it's a 450 with 1.25GB RAM and 320GB HD. I love it, and use it every day. > >I remember a time when the speakers wouldn't work, but now that problem seems >long gone! Now I know the cube doesn't have an internal speaker... but my >problem is actually on my PB867 (DVI) it constantly thinks the headphones are >plugged in. > >any ideas would be awesome. > >-Francois -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070717/877dced9/attachment-0001.html From garylauterback at earthlink.net Tue Jul 17 06:06:48 2007 From: garylauterback at earthlink.net (Gary) Date: Tue Jul 17 06:06:58 2007 Subject: [Cube] Re: Fading display really a Kernal Panic .... In-Reply-To: <20070717081615.9A01310E5179@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070717081615.9A01310E5179@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <631CAB1F-7160-480E-B230-932A182C272D@earthlink.net> On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:16 AM, cube- request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > I have a Cube with a stock 500Mhz CPU, a Ge3 card, maxed out > memory, and > 120GB drive, fully updated 10.4.10. > > In the last week or so, at boot, it started showing a black screen > with a > message in multiple languages to restart the computer. Dave, What you've described is a "Kernal Panic". RAM is the fist thing to check when experiencing Kernal Panics. RAM can go bad. Reseat your RAM, (just in case it's something that simple). And if it continues to KP, try the idea below. You have three RAM modules in your Cube, try removing one at a time The likely hood of all three modules going bad at once is a bit much. Pull a stick, and try the Mac. It's a bit time consuming, but you should be able to isolate the offending module. Sense you have the core out, gently check your video card, make sure it's seated well etc. Let us know what happens ... Gary Gary Lauterback garylauterback@earthlink.net Making a difference ... again! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070717/1c00bd10/attachment.html From nebdave at mac.com Tue Jul 17 07:19:35 2007 From: nebdave at mac.com (Dave Iverson) Date: Tue Jul 17 07:19:42 2007 Subject: [Cube] Re: Fading display really a Kernal Panic .... In-Reply-To: <631CAB1F-7160-480E-B230-932A182C272D@earthlink.net> References: <20070717081615.9A01310E5179@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <631CAB1F-7160-480E-B230-932A182C272D@earthlink.net> Message-ID: I thought I had sent this reply last weekend, but it must have gotten lost somewhere in the ether... On Saturday, July 14, 2007, at 01:58AM, "David Iverson" wrote: >Bingo! Fried video card > >I found a card laying around that I don?t even remember having (ATI Rage128) >and it fired right up. > >The poor little fan in the Ge3 was frozen as solid as Hans Solo in the >carbon freezing chamber after Boba Fatt gave him up to Jabba the Hutt.... > >Dave Iverson > > >On 7/9/07 11:21 AM, "Seth Maynard" wrote: > >> Yeah I am going to have to say that is the graphics card craping out. The >> screen with the multi-lingual screen is a kernel panic. This could be a >> variety of problems, good idea on thinking about the graphics card. Because it >> is displaying funny colors and patterns that is most likely what it is. Let me >> know how it works out! >> >> - Seth Maynard On Tuesday, July 17, 2007, at 09:07AM, "Gary" wrote: >On Jul 17, 2007, at 1:16 AM, cube- >request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > >> I have a Cube with a stock 500Mhz CPU, a Ge3 card, maxed out >> memory, and >> 120GB drive, fully updated 10.4.10. >> >> In the last week or so, at boot, it started showing a black screen >> with a >> message in multiple languages to restart the computer. > > >Dave, > >What you've described is a "Kernal Panic". > >RAM is the fist thing to check when experiencing Kernal Panics. >RAM can go bad. Reseat your RAM, (just in case it's something that >simple). >And if it continues to KP, try the idea below. > >You have three RAM modules in your Cube, try removing one at a time >The likely hood of all three modules going bad at once is a bit much. >Pull a stick, and try the Mac. It's a bit time consuming, but you >should be able to isolate the offending module. > >Sense you have the core out, gently check your video card, make sure >it's seated well etc. > > >Let us know what happens ... > > >Gary > >Gary Lauterback >garylauterback@earthlink.net > >Making a difference ... again! > > From franc-b at shaw.ca Tue Jul 17 11:30:23 2007 From: franc-b at shaw.ca (Francois Barbary) Date: Tue Jul 17 11:31:16 2007 Subject: [Cube] Internal Spakers In-Reply-To: <20070717081615.2C20110E5174@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070717081615.2C20110E5174@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <6ABF7202-9B26-4F38-851D-7353E636BF2B@shaw.ca> Thanks for the suggestions... 1) when i do plug in headphones it does work through the headphones, but when I unplug it it seems to think they're still there! 2) I'll try the sound source thing next time it happens. The problem is intermittent. I think it happens when i have the headphones pluged in along time or when it falls asleap with them in. ive been trying to recreate the problem today but it's not doing it! it's like when you go to the doctor, by the time you see him, your symptoms are gone! thats what always happens when i post here! anyway. thanks! -Francois From rmansfield at mac.com Wed Jul 18 14:12:20 2007 From: rmansfield at mac.com (R. Mansfield) Date: Wed Jul 18 14:13:00 2007 Subject: [Cube] Maximum hard drive size for Cube? Message-ID: I just got my first Cube. What is the maximum sized hard drive I can install in the Cube if I just install OS X and not OS 9? Thanks. R. Mansfield From andrew.mckenzie at onlinecol.com Wed Jul 18 14:22:30 2007 From: andrew.mckenzie at onlinecol.com (Andrew McKenzie) Date: Wed Jul 18 14:27:53 2007 Subject: [Cube] Maximum hard drive size for Cube? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <14CF8645-EA8A-445D-BA6D-7E0C8D5A8442@onlinecol.com> 128GB is the maximum size that the Cube's onboard ATA interface can recognize. If you put in a bigger drive, only the first 128GB will be recognized. Note that there is software that will allow a computer such as the Cube to use a bigger hard drive. See: http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Intech%20USA/SPEEDHCCD/ as an example. Cheers, Andrew On Jul 18, 2007, at Jul 18 , 3:12 PM, R. Mansfield wrote: I just got my first Cube. What is the maximum sized hard drive I can install in the Cube if I just install OS X and not OS 9? Thanks. R. Mansfield _______________________________________________ Cube mailing list Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From phoenix at cybernothing.org Wed Jul 18 14:50:02 2007 From: phoenix at cybernothing.org (phoenix) Date: Wed Jul 18 14:50:11 2007 Subject: [Cube] Maximum hard drive size for Cube? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 7/18/07, R. Mansfield wrote: > I just got my first Cube. What is the maximum sized hard drive I can > install in the Cube if I just install OS X and not OS 9? Get a 120 GB IDE for the inside (decent size, cheap to get, works wonderfully), and any size you like in an enclosure hooked up via USB or Firewire. cheers, A.J. -- "there's more to life than gears and horsepower not much, admittedly, but you get the point..." -- Road Kill From rmansfield at mac.com Wed Jul 18 18:21:06 2007 From: rmansfield at mac.com (R. Mansfield) Date: Wed Jul 18 18:21:13 2007 Subject: [Cube] New (to me) Cube Locks Up In-Reply-To: <14CF8645-EA8A-445D-BA6D-7E0C8D5A8442@onlinecol.com> References: <14CF8645-EA8A-445D-BA6D-7E0C8D5A8442@onlinecol.com> Message-ID: I bought a Cube for $100 today. The owner said that it had been locking up/freezing for no apparent reason. The machine had only been reloaded once during the last seven years (when the hard drive was upgraded), so I figured that reloading OS X from scratch would do the trick. So today, I erased the hard drive, formatting it as Mac OS X Extended (journaled). I did not include drivers for OS 9, nor did I install OS 9. I installed OS X Tiger which loaded without a problem. So far, even with the new install, the machine has now locked up on me twice--once while just sitting there idle and another time while downloading OS X updates. When I say locked up, I mean that the mouse arrow freezes in place and the keyboard is unresponsive. I have no other option but to restart the machine. Here are the specs: RAM: 1.6 GB HD: 128 GB Processor: 450 Mhz G4 Firmware: 4.1.9 Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, Rick From rmansfield at mac.com Wed Jul 18 18:23:19 2007 From: rmansfield at mac.com (R. Mansfield) Date: Wed Jul 18 18:24:01 2007 Subject: [Cube] New (to me) Cube Locks Up In-Reply-To: References: <14CF8645-EA8A-445D-BA6D-7E0C8D5A8442@onlinecol.com> Message-ID: <974D5B8F-28FA-4AAB-B28F-6CC34A9B9CC0@mac.com> Correction: Obviously, I meant that the Cube has 1.5 gb of RAM. not 1.6. On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:21 PM, R. Mansfield wrote: > I bought a Cube for $100 today. The owner said that it had been > locking up/freezing for no apparent reason. > > The machine had only been reloaded once during the last seven > years (when the hard drive was upgraded), so I figured that > reloading OS X from scratch would do the trick. > > So today, I erased the hard drive, formatting it as Mac OS X > Extended (journaled). I did not include drivers for OS 9, nor did I > install OS 9. I installed OS X Tiger which loaded without a problem. > > So far, even with the new install, the machine has now locked up on > me twice--once while just sitting there idle and another time while > downloading OS X updates. > > When I say locked up, I mean that the mouse arrow freezes in place > and the keyboard is unresponsive. I have no other option but to > restart the machine. > > Here are the specs: > > RAM: 1.6 GB > HD: 128 GB > Processor: 450 Mhz G4 > Firmware: 4.1.9 > > > Any suggestions would be appreciated. > > > Thanks, > > Rick > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From tlanden at mac.com Wed Jul 18 18:41:06 2007 From: tlanden at mac.com (TLanden) Date: Wed Jul 18 18:41:25 2007 Subject: [Cube] New (to me) Cube Locks Up In-Reply-To: <974D5B8F-28FA-4AAB-B28F-6CC34A9B9CC0@mac.com> References: <14CF8645-EA8A-445D-BA6D-7E0C8D5A8442@onlinecol.com> <974D5B8F-28FA-4AAB-B28F-6CC34A9B9CC0@mac.com> Message-ID: <785B9B00-D001-474F-AA18-A1CB9DB4DF3D@mac.com> I would first try to set the sleep to never ... Only allow the screen to sleep. I gave my father the Cube five or six years ago (when I purchase a G4 desktop) and a couple of years ago it started freezing on him. I gave him an extra G4 Mac Mini and I took the Cube back. At my home office I installed OS X Server on it and host a few web pages off of it. It locked up until I turned all the sleep functions off. It has been functioning flawlessly as a web server for two years. I did not search any farther for a cure to the freezing, because it has been running longer than I ever thought it would last. It even survived a lightning strike at my fathers that took out everything else around the computer (including the internal modem on the Cube, one USB port, and one Firewire port) It is hard to believe it has been on for almost seven years, with maybe a reboot every few months. Good luck!!! On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:23 PM, R. Mansfield wrote: > Correction: Obviously, I meant that the Cube has 1.5 gb of RAM. not > 1.6. > > On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:21 PM, R. Mansfield wrote: > >> I bought a Cube for $100 today. The owner said that it had been >> locking up/freezing for no apparent reason. >> >> The machine had only been reloaded once during the last seven >> years (when the hard drive was upgraded), so I figured that >> reloading OS X from scratch would do the trick. >> >> So today, I erased the hard drive, formatting it as Mac OS X >> Extended (journaled). I did not include drivers for OS 9, nor did >> I install OS 9. I installed OS X Tiger which loaded without a >> problem. >> >> So far, even with the new install, the machine has now locked up >> on me twice--once while just sitting there idle and another time >> while downloading OS X updates. >> >> When I say locked up, I mean that the mouse arrow freezes in place >> and the keyboard is unresponsive. I have no other option but to >> restart the machine. >> >> Here are the specs: >> >> RAM: 1.6 GB >> HD: 128 GB >> Processor: 450 Mhz G4 >> Firmware: 4.1.9 >> >> >> Any suggestions would be appreciated. >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Rick >> _______________________________________________ >> Cube mailing list >> Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From rmansfield at mac.com Wed Jul 18 18:50:27 2007 From: rmansfield at mac.com (R. Mansfield) Date: Wed Jul 18 18:51:12 2007 Subject: [Cube] New (to me) Cube Locks Up In-Reply-To: <785B9B00-D001-474F-AA18-A1CB9DB4DF3D@mac.com> References: <14CF8645-EA8A-445D-BA6D-7E0C8D5A8442@onlinecol.com> <974D5B8F-28FA-4AAB-B28F-6CC34A9B9CC0@mac.com> <785B9B00-D001-474F-AA18-A1CB9DB4DF3D@mac.com> Message-ID: <5E012BE2-1D1B-4EED-9AC1-7B01DAFB8D48@mac.com> Thanks. Great minds must think alike. After I sent the message (from my MacBook) I went in to look at the cube and it was locked up again. After restarting, on a hunch I went into system preferences and set it to never go to sleep. I think if it can go 24 hours without locking up, that's the solution. I'll check back in. ___ Sent from my iPhone On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:41 PM, TLanden wrote: > I would first try to set the sleep to never ... Only allow the > screen to sleep. I gave my father the Cube five or six years ago > (when I purchase a G4 desktop) and a couple of years ago it started > freezing on him. I gave him an extra G4 Mac Mini and I took the Cube > back. At my home office I installed OS X Server on it and host a few > web pages off of it. It locked up until I turned all the sleep > functions off. It has been functioning flawlessly as a web server > for two years. > > I did not search any farther for a cure to the freezing, because it > has been running longer than I ever thought it would last. It even > survived a lightning strike at my fathers that took out everything > else around the computer (including the internal modem on the Cube, > one USB port, and one Firewire port) It is hard to believe it has > been on for almost seven years, with maybe a reboot every few months. > > Good luck!!! > > > > > On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:23 PM, R. Mansfield wrote: > >> Correction: Obviously, I meant that the Cube has 1.5 gb of RAM. not >> 1.6. >> >> On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:21 PM, R. Mansfield wrote: >> >>> I bought a Cube for $100 today. The owner said that it had been >>> locking up/freezing for no apparent reason. >>> >>> The machine had only been reloaded once during the last seven >>> years (when the hard drive was upgraded), so I figured that >>> reloading OS X from scratch would do the trick. >>> >>> So today, I erased the hard drive, formatting it as Mac OS X >>> Extended (journaled). I did not include drivers for OS 9, nor did >>> I install OS 9. I installed OS X Tiger which loaded without a >>> problem. >>> >>> So far, even with the new install, the machine has now locked up >>> on me twice--once while just sitting there idle and another time >>> while downloading OS X updates. >>> >>> When I say locked up, I mean that the mouse arrow freezes in place >>> and the keyboard is unresponsive. I have no other option but to >>> restart the machine. >>> >>> Here are the specs: >>> >>> RAM: 1.6 GB >>> HD: 128 GB >>> Processor: 450 Mhz G4 >>> Firmware: 4.1.9 >>> >>> >>> Any suggestions would be appreciated. >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Rick >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Cube mailing list >>> Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cube mailing list >> Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From rmansfield at mac.com Wed Jul 18 19:37:20 2007 From: rmansfield at mac.com (R. Mansfield) Date: Wed Jul 18 19:38:17 2007 Subject: [Cube] New (to me) Cube Locks Up In-Reply-To: <5E012BE2-1D1B-4EED-9AC1-7B01DAFB8D48@mac.com> References: <14CF8645-EA8A-445D-BA6D-7E0C8D5A8442@onlinecol.com> <974D5B8F-28FA-4AAB-B28F-6CC34A9B9CC0@mac.com> <785B9B00-D001-474F-AA18-A1CB9DB4DF3D@mac.com> <5E012BE2-1D1B-4EED-9AC1-7B01DAFB8D48@mac.com> Message-ID: <03895485-2A1A-48DD-8785-5EE0A04FD773@mac.com> Well, I spoke too soon. It locked up again while trying to update to the current version of OS X. This time it was far enough into the update that the lock-up kept the Cube from starting at all. So now I'm installing again from the Tiger CD. Before I go much further, anymore ideas as to why a Cube would lock up like this? Another possibility--could the Cube be overheating? On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:50 PM, R. Mansfield wrote: > Thanks. Great minds must think alike. After I sent the message > (from my MacBook) I went in to look at the cube and it was locked > up again. After restarting, on a hunch I went into system > preferences and set it to never go to sleep. > > I think if it can go 24 hours without locking up, that's the solution. > > I'll check back in. > ___ > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:41 PM, TLanden wrote: > >> I would first try to set the sleep to never ... Only allow the >> screen to sleep. I gave my father the Cube five or six years ago >> (when I purchase a G4 desktop) and a couple of years ago it >> started freezing on him. I gave him an extra G4 Mac Mini and I >> took the Cube back. At my home office I installed OS X Server on >> it and host a few web pages off of it. It locked up until I >> turned all the sleep functions off. It has been functioning >> flawlessly as a web server for two years. >> >> I did not search any farther for a cure to the freezing, because >> it has been running longer than I ever thought it would last. It >> even survived a lightning strike at my fathers that took out >> everything else around the computer (including the internal modem >> on the Cube, one USB port, and one Firewire port) It is hard to >> believe it has been on for almost seven years, with maybe a reboot >> every few months. >> >> Good luck!!! >> >> >> >> >> On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:23 PM, R. Mansfield wrote: >> >>> Correction: Obviously, I meant that the Cube has 1.5 gb of RAM. >>> not 1.6. >>> >>> On Jul 18, 2007, at 9:21 PM, R. Mansfield wrote: >>> >>>> I bought a Cube for $100 today. The owner said that it had been >>>> locking up/freezing for no apparent reason. >>>> >>>> The machine had only been reloaded once during the last seven >>>> years (when the hard drive was upgraded), so I figured that >>>> reloading OS X from scratch would do the trick. >>>> >>>> So today, I erased the hard drive, formatting it as Mac OS X >>>> Extended (journaled). I did not include drivers for OS 9, nor >>>> did I install OS 9. I installed OS X Tiger which loaded without >>>> a problem. >>>> >>>> So far, even with the new install, the machine has now locked up >>>> on me twice--once while just sitting there idle and another time >>>> while downloading OS X updates. >>>> >>>> When I say locked up, I mean that the mouse arrow freezes in >>>> place and the keyboard is unresponsive. I have no other option >>>> but to restart the machine. >>>> >>>> Here are the specs: >>>> >>>> RAM: 1.6 GB >>>> HD: 128 GB >>>> Processor: 450 Mhz G4 >>>> Firmware: 4.1.9 >>>> >>>> >>>> Any suggestions would be appreciated. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Rick >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> From ronsteinke at mac.com Wed Jul 18 22:12:32 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Wed Jul 18 22:18:56 2007 Subject: [Cube] New (to me) Cube Locks Up In-Reply-To: <03895485-2A1A-48DD-8785-5EE0A04FD773@mac.com> References: <14CF8645-EA8A-445D-BA6D-7E0C8D5A8442@onlinecol.com> <974D5B8F-28FA-4AAB-B28F-6CC34A9B9CC0@mac.com> <785B9B00-D001-474F-AA18-A1CB9DB4DF3D@mac.com> <5E012BE2-1D1B-4EED-9AC1-7B01DAFB8D48@mac.com> <03895485-2A1A-48DD-8785-5EE0A04FD773@mac.com> Message-ID: On 18 Jul, 2007, at 7:37 PM, R. Mansfield wrote: > Before I go much further, anymore ideas as to why a Cube would lock > up like this? Have you tried changing the RAM chips for totally different ones? A bad chip (from old age or other reasons) can cause freezes and other strange effects. From no-spam at punkt-x.de Wed Jul 18 23:13:23 2007 From: no-spam at punkt-x.de (Stefan) Date: Wed Jul 18 23:13:40 2007 Subject: [Cube] New (to me) Cube Locks Up In-Reply-To: References: <14CF8645-EA8A-445D-BA6D-7E0C8D5A8442@onlinecol.com> Message-ID: Hi Rick, cubes seem to have an individual life. That's my impression... I own two cubes. My first, upgraded to 1.5 GHz, max RAM and a GeForce 4MX runs without severe problems for several years now. The other, bought half a year ago, can not be updated to OS-X 10.4.X, that's my impression. Of course I looked for the firmware: it's the actual/last one. Cause I must not use OS-X with the second cube, I run it with OS 9. My ideas/theories to your problem: Test the RAM-modules. May be one of them is not compatible and after a time of usage not only the first, but also the second and third module is used. Then the cube could crash. (If changing the RAM to several slots makes a difference, it might be the reason. Or remove two modules and test them single for a while. Last idea is best one - IMHO) Non-compatibility seems to have several reasons. Under OS 9 there was a tool to test RAM. May its results have no sense for OS-X... I can't imagine the cube becomes too hot. But if you live in a hot region (Arizona in summer?), the cube is standing in the sun, the ventilation is "sub-optimal", that might be a reason. There are recommended temperatures for working with cubes too. When my fast cube's fan was defect it froze regularly. Becoming cold everything was OK again, - for a while. Tip: If you restart immediately after freezing and the cube runs after restart again for hours and hours it can't be overheating, I think. I'll go on thinking about your problem - Good luck, Rick. Stefan - from germany Yet a sentence: Cubes are very satisfying too. Excellent build quality: stainless steel interior for example From rmansfield at mac.com Thu Jul 19 06:43:10 2007 From: rmansfield at mac.com (Rick Mansfield) Date: Thu Jul 19 06:43:24 2007 Subject: [Cube] New (to me) Cube Locks Up In-Reply-To: References: <14CF8645-EA8A-445D-BA6D-7E0C8D5A8442@onlinecol.com> Message-ID: <8378A2E1-3201-47F4-890E-63A82C9BC920@mac.com> Well, last night I started from scratch once again, completely reformatting the hard drive. This time when I loaded OS X Tiger, I immediately set the preferences so that the hard drive would not go to sleep. It was the first thing I did after it restarted. The updates, including the massive 170 mb 10.4.10 installed without a problem, and it's now been running almost 12 hours without a lockup. So I'm crossing my fingers and holding my breath that the freezing issue is no more. The test will come tonight when I start moving over two user accounts and loading other software. Rick On Jul 19, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Stefan wrote: > > Hi Rick, > > > cubes seem to have an individual life. That's my impression... > > I own two cubes. > My first, upgraded to 1.5 GHz, max RAM and a GeForce 4MX runs > without severe problems for several years now. > The other, bought half a year ago, can not be updated to OS-X > 10.4.X, that's my impression. > > Of course I looked for the firmware: it's the actual/last one. > Cause I must not use OS-X with the second cube, I run it with OS 9. > > > My ideas/theories to your problem: > > Test the RAM-modules. May be one of them is not compatible and > after a time of usage not only the first, but also the second and > third module is used. Then the cube could crash. (If changing the > RAM to several slots makes a difference, it might be the reason. Or > remove two modules and test them single for a while. Last idea is > best one - IMHO) > > Non-compatibility seems to have several reasons. > Under OS 9 there was a tool to test RAM. May its results have no > sense for OS-X... > > > I can't imagine the cube becomes too hot. > But if you live in a hot region (Arizona in summer?), the cube is > standing in the sun, the ventilation is "sub-optimal", that might > be a reason. There are recommended temperatures for working with > cubes too. > When my fast cube's fan was defect it froze regularly. Becoming > cold everything was OK again, - for a while. > Tip: If you restart immediately after freezing and the cube runs > after restart again for hours and hours it can't be overheating, I > think. > > > I'll go on thinking about your problem > - Good luck, Rick. > > Stefan - from germany > > > Yet a sentence: > Cubes are very satisfying too. > Excellent build quality: stainless steel interior for example > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From raub at afn.org Thu Jul 19 07:09:31 2007 From: raub at afn.org (Mauricio Tavares) Date: Thu Jul 19 07:09:45 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube and Linux In-Reply-To: <8378A2E1-3201-47F4-890E-63A82C9BC920@mac.com> Message-ID: What would be a good linux to try on a Cube? Doesn't centos still support the ppc? I kinda need to have a ppc linux box to develop some stuff; since my cube is doing nothing right now... From sethwm2 at gmail.com Thu Jul 19 07:32:31 2007 From: sethwm2 at gmail.com (Seth Maynard) Date: Thu Jul 19 07:32:51 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube and Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Well, I know that ubuntu supports ppc and that you can use kde or gnome - Seth Maynard On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:09 AM, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > What would be a good linux to try on a Cube? Doesn't centos still > support the ppc? I kinda need to have a ppc linux box to develop some > stuff; since my cube is doing nothing right now... > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From raub at afn.org Thu Jul 19 07:34:56 2007 From: raub at afn.org (Mauricio Tavares) Date: Thu Jul 19 07:35:09 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube and Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Seth Maynard wrote: > Well, I know that ubuntu supports ppc and that you can use kde or gnome > - Seth Maynard > Then I must be looking in the wrong place. I was at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download and it does not mention PPC. =( > On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:09 AM, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > > > What would be a good linux to try on a Cube? Doesn't centos still > > support the ppc? I kinda need to have a ppc linux box to develop some > > stuff; since my cube is doing nothing right now... > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Cube mailing list > > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > From jdeamara at hotmail.com Thu Jul 19 08:05:33 2007 From: jdeamara at hotmail.com (James Deamara) Date: Thu Jul 19 08:05:46 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube and Linux In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Hi. SuSE supports ppc also...check out their web site at http://en.opensuse.org/Released_Version#PPC. James. From: Seth Maynard Reply-To: "A place to discuss Apple's Cube." To: "A place to discuss Apple's Cube." Subject: Re: [Cube] Cube and Linux Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 10:32:31 -0400 Well, I know that ubuntu supports ppc and that you can use kde or gnome - Seth Maynard On Jul 19, 2007, at 10:09 AM, Mauricio Tavares wrote: > What would be a good linux to try on a Cube? Doesn't centos still >support the ppc? I kinda need to have a ppc linux box to develop some >stuff; since my cube is doing nothing right now... > >_______________________________________________ >Cube mailing list >Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube _______________________________________________ Cube mailing list Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary!  http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_hotmailtextlink2 From brucarr at rogers.com Thu Jul 19 08:26:19 2007 From: brucarr at rogers.com (Bruce Carr) Date: Thu Jul 19 08:26:34 2007 Subject: [Cube] New (to me) Cube Locks Up In-Reply-To: <8378A2E1-3201-47F4-890E-63A82C9BC920@mac.com> Message-ID: Rick I had a problem very similar to that and from what I can figure was a font conflict. It was many years ago so I can't remember the details. My two cents Bruce On 7/19/07 9:43 AM, "Rick Mansfield" wrote: > Well, last night I started from scratch once again, completely > reformatting the hard drive. This time when I loaded OS X Tiger, I > immediately set the preferences so that the hard drive would not go > to sleep. It was the first thing I did after it restarted. > > The updates, including the massive 170 mb 10.4.10 installed without a > problem, and it's now been running almost 12 hours without a lockup. > > So I'm crossing my fingers and holding my breath that the freezing > issue is no more. > > The test will come tonight when I start moving over two user accounts > and loading other software. > > > Rick > > > On Jul 19, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Stefan wrote: > >> >> Hi Rick, >> >> >> cubes seem to have an individual life. That's my impression... >> >> I own two cubes. >> My first, upgraded to 1.5 GHz, max RAM and a GeForce 4MX runs >> without severe problems for several years now. >> The other, bought half a year ago, can not be updated to OS-X >> 10.4.X, that's my impression. >> >> Of course I looked for the firmware: it's the actual/last one. >> Cause I must not use OS-X with the second cube, I run it with OS 9. >> >> >> My ideas/theories to your problem: >> >> Test the RAM-modules. May be one of them is not compatible and >> after a time of usage not only the first, but also the second and >> third module is used. Then the cube could crash. (If changing the >> RAM to several slots makes a difference, it might be the reason. Or >> remove two modules and test them single for a while. Last idea is >> best one - IMHO) >> >> Non-compatibility seems to have several reasons. >> Under OS 9 there was a tool to test RAM. May its results have no >> sense for OS-X... >> >> >> I can't imagine the cube becomes too hot. >> But if you live in a hot region (Arizona in summer?), the cube is >> standing in the sun, the ventilation is "sub-optimal", that might >> be a reason. There are recommended temperatures for working with >> cubes too. >> When my fast cube's fan was defect it froze regularly. Becoming >> cold everything was OK again, - for a while. >> Tip: If you restart immediately after freezing and the cube runs >> after restart again for hours and hours it can't be overheating, I >> think. >> >> >> I'll go on thinking about your problem >> - Good luck, Rick. >> >> Stefan - from germany >> >> >> Yet a sentence: >> Cubes are very satisfying too. >> Excellent build quality: stainless steel interior for example >> _______________________________________________ >> Cube mailing list >> Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From rmansfield at mac.com Thu Jul 19 09:01:26 2007 From: rmansfield at mac.com (Rick Mansfield) Date: Thu Jul 19 09:02:59 2007 Subject: [Cube] New (to me) Cube Locks Up In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8C2423B9-5E9F-4267-96B9-53C667E698CC@mac.com> Right now, I'm thinking it was the hard drive sleep issue. Fonts could be a problem, but on a fresh erase and install, I think it might be a longshot. Although I use my MacBook most of the time, my goal is to get the Cube up an running as our main home desktop computer. In fact, since the Cube is more expandable, I am willing to replace the 2002 emac that has been in this position for a while. Truth is that I've always had a bit of techno-lust for the Cube. Back in 2000 when they were first announced, I was teaching at a high school. I asked permission to provide my own computer for my classroom and was planning to get the Cube. Then, when the pricing was announced, I just felt it was too far outside my ballpark, and settled on a new iMac which I have long since parted with. At the same time, I had a friend who served at a church who got the Cube with church budget funds. It fell into disuse about three years ago because of this constant locking up issue. So a few weeks ago I offered the church $100 and they finally accepted. I'm excited to finally have my Cube, seven years late. I'm hoping that it can be a longterm project to upgrade the processor, video card and optical drive. That is, if the freezing/lock-up issue has now been resolved. I'll put the Cube through its paces tonight as I begin transferring files and loading applications. But so far, no freezes in well over 12 hours. Rick On Jul 19, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Bruce Carr wrote: > Rick > I had a problem very similar to that and from what I can figure was > a font > conflict. It was many years ago so I can't remember the details. > My two cents > Bruce > > > On 7/19/07 9:43 AM, "Rick Mansfield" wrote: > >> Well, last night I started from scratch once again, completely >> reformatting the hard drive. This time when I loaded OS X Tiger, I >> immediately set the preferences so that the hard drive would not go >> to sleep. It was the first thing I did after it restarted. >> >> The updates, including the massive 170 mb 10.4.10 installed without a >> problem, and it's now been running almost 12 hours without a lockup. >> >> So I'm crossing my fingers and holding my breath that the freezing >> issue is no more. >> >> The test will come tonight when I start moving over two user accounts >> and loading other software. >> >> >> Rick >> >> >> On Jul 19, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Stefan wrote: >> >>> >>> Hi Rick, >>> >>> >>> cubes seem to have an individual life. That's my impression... >>> >>> I own two cubes. >>> My first, upgraded to 1.5 GHz, max RAM and a GeForce 4MX runs >>> without severe problems for several years now. >>> The other, bought half a year ago, can not be updated to OS-X >>> 10.4.X, that's my impression. >>> >>> Of course I looked for the firmware: it's the actual/last one. >>> Cause I must not use OS-X with the second cube, I run it with OS 9. >>> >>> >>> My ideas/theories to your problem: >>> >>> Test the RAM-modules. May be one of them is not compatible and >>> after a time of usage not only the first, but also the second and >>> third module is used. Then the cube could crash. (If changing the >>> RAM to several slots makes a difference, it might be the reason. Or >>> remove two modules and test them single for a while. Last idea is >>> best one - IMHO) >>> >>> Non-compatibility seems to have several reasons. >>> Under OS 9 there was a tool to test RAM. May its results have no >>> sense for OS-X... >>> >>> >>> I can't imagine the cube becomes too hot. >>> But if you live in a hot region (Arizona in summer?), the cube is >>> standing in the sun, the ventilation is "sub-optimal", that might >>> be a reason. There are recommended temperatures for working with >>> cubes too. >>> When my fast cube's fan was defect it froze regularly. Becoming >>> cold everything was OK again, - for a while. >>> Tip: If you restart immediately after freezing and the cube runs >>> after restart again for hours and hours it can't be overheating, I >>> think. >>> >>> >>> I'll go on thinking about your problem >>> - Good luck, Rick. >>> >>> Stefan - from germany >>> >>> >>> Yet a sentence: >>> Cubes are very satisfying too. >>> Excellent build quality: stainless steel interior for example >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Cube mailing list >>> Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Cube mailing list >> Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From riba at ml1.net Thu Jul 19 11:13:33 2007 From: riba at ml1.net (Riba) Date: Thu Jul 19 11:13:45 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube and Linux In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1A786F59-BACB-445A-88EB-ED55C5B36ACA@ml1.net> On 2007.07.19, at 16:32, Seth Maynard wrote: > Well, I know that ubuntu supports ppc and that you can use kde or > gnome Ubutnu for PPC is actually not officially supported any longer: "Beginning with Ubuntu 7.04, the PowerPC edition of Ubuntu will be reclassified as unofficial. The PowerPC software itself and supporting infrastructure will continue to be available, and supported by a community team." I believe that the only fully supported PPC linux distribution is Yellow Dog Linux. However this is not the reason to keep using Ubuntu... From atoa at krak.net Thu Jul 19 11:30:17 2007 From: atoa at krak.net (atoa) Date: Thu Jul 19 11:30:26 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube and Linux In-Reply-To: <1A786F59-BACB-445A-88EB-ED55C5B36ACA@ml1.net> References: <1A786F59-BACB-445A-88EB-ED55C5B36ACA@ml1.net> Message-ID: On Thu, 19 Jul 2007, Riba wrote: > > On 2007.07.19, at 16:32, Seth Maynard wrote: > >> Well, I know that ubuntu supports ppc and that you can use kde or gnome > > Ubutnu for PPC is actually not officially supported any longer: > > "Beginning with Ubuntu 7.04, the PowerPC edition of Ubuntu will be > reclassified as unofficial. The PowerPC software itself and supporting > infrastructure will continue to be available, and supported by a community > team." > > I believe that the only fully supported PPC linux distribution is Yellow Dog > Linux. > > However this is not the reason to keep using Ubuntu... Please let us off the tenterhooks. From franc-b at shaw.ca Thu Jul 19 13:55:39 2007 From: franc-b at shaw.ca (Francois Barbary) Date: Thu Jul 19 13:56:25 2007 Subject: [Cube] MAzimum Hard Drive size for Cube ? In-Reply-To: <20070719014135.021271106414@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070719014135.021271106414@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <51227508-156E-4418-A1AD-826F13244101@shaw.ca> Hi I use that software from Intech. It works great gives me access to 320 GB internal IDE drive, but the only problem I didn't foresee is when connecting the cube as a FW disk to another mac, it will not be able to access anything past the 128 GB, EVEN IF the other mac loads the Intech driver... so its a small limitation to be aware of. Francois On 18-Jul-07, at 7:41 PM, cube-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2007 15:22:30 -0600 > From: Andrew McKenzie > Subject: Re: [Cube] Maximum hard drive size for Cube? > To: "A place to discuss Apple's Cube." > > Message-ID: <14CF8645-EA8A-445D-BA6D-7E0C8D5A8442@onlinecol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > 128GB is the maximum size that the Cube's onboard ATA interface can > recognize. If you put in a bigger drive, only the first 128GB will be > recognized. > > Note that there is software that will allow a computer such as the > Cube to use a bigger hard drive. See: > > http://eshop.macsales.com/item/Intech%20USA/SPEEDHCCD/ > > as an example. > > Cheers, > > Andrew > > On Jul 18, 2007, at Jul 18 , 3:12 PM, R. Mansfield wrote: > > I just got my first Cube. What is the maximum sized hard drive I can > install in the Cube if I just install OS X and not OS 9? > > Thanks. > > > R. Mansfield From riba at ml1.net Thu Jul 19 22:35:17 2007 From: riba at ml1.net (Riba) Date: Thu Jul 19 22:35:30 2007 Subject: [Cube] Cube and Linux In-Reply-To: <1A786F59-BACB-445A-88EB-ED55C5B36ACA@ml1.net> References: <1A786F59-BACB-445A-88EB-ED55C5B36ACA@ml1.net> Message-ID: On 2007.07.19, at 20:13, Riba wrote: > > On 2007.07.19, at 16:32, Seth Maynard wrote: > >> Well, I know that ubuntu supports ppc and that you can use kde or >> gnome > > Ubutnu for PPC is actually not officially supported any longer: > > "Beginning with Ubuntu 7.04, the PowerPC edition of Ubuntu will be > reclassified as unofficial. The PowerPC software itself and > supporting > infrastructure will continue to be available, and supported by a > community > team." > > I believe that the only fully supported PPC linux distribution is > Yellow Dog Linux. > > However this is not the reason to keep using Ubuntu... Of course I meant "not to keep using..." From no-spam at punkt-x.de Fri Jul 20 08:09:25 2007 From: no-spam at punkt-x.de (Stefan) Date: Fri Jul 20 09:06:24 2007 Subject: [Cube] MAzimum Hard Drive size for Cube ? In-Reply-To: <51227508-156E-4418-A1AD-826F13244101@shaw.ca> References: <20070719014135.021271106414@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <51227508-156E-4418-A1AD-826F13244101@shaw.ca> Message-ID: >Hi > >I use that software from Intech. It works great gives me access to >320 GB internal IDE drive, but the only problem I didn't foresee is >when connecting the cube as a FW disk to another mac, it will not be >able to access anything past the 128 GB, EVEN IF the other mac loads >the Intech driver... so its a small limitation to be aware of. >Francois Hi Francois, I read your posting. Some years ago I installed the Intech-driver for a while but found it instable then. And I was concerned for my data. Now you brought back my interest. :-) Do you have experiences with situations when you had to repair your (large!) harddisk by booting in root-mode or with harddisk-toolkit (original Apple or other) when starting from a connected firewire-drive? (I don't mean target-mode!) Does the 128 GB-limit exist in that case too? That's what moves my mind. Or are there any other problems to mention? I hope you will tell us everything of importance? Thanks for answering in advance Stefan From lejo at mac.com Sat Jul 21 13:01:51 2007 From: lejo at mac.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Leif_Joel_=D6rell?=) Date: Sat Jul 21 13:02:01 2007 Subject: [Cube] MAzimum Hard Drive size for Cube ? In-Reply-To: References: <20070719014135.021271106414@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <51227508-156E-4418-A1AD-826F13244101@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <615DA39F-C0D6-490E-B538-F725C7F28669@mac.com> Hi I have been using the ATA Hi-Cap Installer for years in my Cube with no problems. I am using a 320 GB Seagate drive with one 127,9 GB partition and one 170 GB partition. Joel 20 jul 2007 kl. 17.09 skrev Stefan: >> Hi >> >> I use that software from Intech. It works great gives me access to >> 320 GB internal IDE drive, but the only problem I didn't foresee >> is when connecting the cube as a FW disk to another mac, it will >> not be able to access anything past the 128 GB, EVEN IF the other >> mac loads the Intech driver... so its a small limitation to be >> aware of. >> Francois > > Hi Francois, > > > I read your posting. > > Some years ago I installed the Intech-driver for a while but found > it instable then. > And I was concerned for my data. > Now you brought back my interest. :-) > > Do you have experiences with situations when you had to repair your > (large!) harddisk > by booting in root-mode or with harddisk-toolkit (original Apple or > other) when starting from a connected firewire-drive? (I don't mean > target-mode!) > Does the 128 GB-limit exist in that case too? > > That's what moves my mind. > > Or are there any other problems to mention? > I hope you will tell us everything of importance? > > > Thanks for answering in advance > Stefan > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From dads at tds.net Sat Jul 21 13:15:40 2007 From: dads at tds.net (Erik Ness) Date: Sat Jul 21 13:16:07 2007 Subject: [Cube] New (to me) Cube Locks Up In-Reply-To: <8C2423B9-5E9F-4267-96B9-53C667E698CC@mac.com> References: <8C2423B9-5E9F-4267-96B9-53C667E698CC@mac.com> Message-ID: This may sound crazy, as nobody has ever reported it besides me, but using the VGA extender elbow that comes with the cube was the problem for me. Elevating the cube a few extra inches and plugging the video cable in directly solved the problem. Cheers, Erik From rmansfield at mac.com Sat Jul 21 21:37:59 2007 From: rmansfield at mac.com (Rick Mansfield) Date: Sat Jul 21 21:32:06 2007 Subject: [Cube] Syncing iPhone on Cube In-Reply-To: References: <14CF8645-EA8A-445D-BA6D-7E0C8D5A8442@onlinecol.com> Message-ID: I'm having difficulty syncing my iPhone with my new Mac Cube. Previously, I was syncing to an eMac even though it only had USB 1.1 like the Cube. Does anyone have any suggestions for making it work? Is there anyone else syncing an iPhone with a Cube? Also, is there -any- USB 2.0 solution for a Cube? From aambrosi at mac.com Sun Jul 22 03:02:37 2007 From: aambrosi at mac.com (Aaron Ambrosino) Date: Sun Jul 22 03:02:46 2007 Subject: [Cube] Syncing iPhone on Cube In-Reply-To: References: <14CF8645-EA8A-445D-BA6D-7E0C8D5A8442@onlinecol.com> Message-ID: <5CB4B9B8-A871-455A-B532-6F64196BCEBE@mac.com> I have synced my iPhone with my cube without any problem. I will tell you this. It is very slow not using USB 2. I did my calendar, contacts, and emil first. Then I synced my music, then my photos, and them my videos. A On Jul 22, 2007, at 12:37 AM, Rick Mansfield wrote: > I'm having difficulty syncing my iPhone with my new Mac Cube. > Previously, I was syncing to an eMac even though it only had USB > 1.1 like the Cube. > > Does anyone have any suggestions for making it work? Is there > anyone else syncing an iPhone with a Cube? > > Also, is there -any- USB 2.0 solution for a Cube? > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From laurasm at mindspring.com Sun Jul 22 17:40:15 2007 From: laurasm at mindspring.com (Laura) Date: Sun Jul 22 17:40:25 2007 Subject: [Cube] Processor upgrades In-Reply-To: <20070720160633.83C92112264C@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: I've been lurking on this list for several years now, but have used my cube less since buying my 1.5GHz Powerbook. But now that I *finally* have an Apple Studio display, I'd prefer working on the huge photo files of which I do daily extensive editing with the better monitor. I know I can buy an expensive adapter to use it with my Powerbook, but I'm remembering that many of you here have had good success with upgrading the Cube processor to at least 1.5 GHz, and I'd like to consider doing the same. My questions: Do any of you experience problems since you've upgraded? How long have you used the upgraded processor, and which brands are reputed to be the best? How much do/did they cost? From which vendors did you buy it? Were you able to install yourself or did you send out to a repair facility? Thanks in advance Laura On 7/20/07 9:06 AM, "cube-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com" wrote: >>> I own two cubes. >>> My first, upgraded to 1.5 GHz, max RAM and a GeForce 4MX runs >>> without severe problems for several years now. From laurasm at mindspring.com Sun Jul 22 17:56:08 2007 From: laurasm at mindspring.com (Laura) Date: Sun Jul 22 17:56:20 2007 Subject: [Cube] Processor upgrades, con't Message-ID: I forgot to say that my Cube is running in a stock 500MHz processor, 1 GB RAM, OS 10.3.9 (though I would upgrade to the best version of Tiger (you tell me). All I did to improve it so far was install a CDRW a long time ago... Thanks, all From riba at ml1.net Mon Jul 23 00:38:43 2007 From: riba at ml1.net (Riba) Date: Mon Jul 23 00:39:12 2007 Subject: [Cube] Processor upgrades In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 2007.07.23, at 02:40, Laura wrote: > I know I can buy an expensive adapter to use it with my Powerbook, > but I'm > remembering that many of you here have had good success with > upgrading the > Cube processor to at least 1.5 GHz, and I'd like to consider doing > the same. > My questions: > > Do any of you experience problems since you've upgraded? How long > have you > used the upgraded processor, and which brands are reputed to be the > best? > How much do/did they cost? From which vendors did you buy it? Were > you able > to install yourself or did you send out to a repair facility? Hello Laura - we're in the same boat, and while looking around I found out that the CPU upgrades are increasingly getting hard to find. As far as the problems go, the only one I recall is the sleep problem with the Powerlogix upgrades, but I don't know if that one is still current. For all my shopping I turn to OWC www.macsales.com, but right now www.yourmacstore.com has Giga Designs upgrade on offer for $300: http://www.yourmacstore.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=483 Hope it helps. From no-spam at punkt-x.de Mon Jul 23 01:27:02 2007 From: no-spam at punkt-x.de (Stefan) Date: Mon Jul 23 01:27:17 2007 Subject: [Cube] MAzimum Hard Drive size for Cube ? In-Reply-To: <51227508-156E-4418-A1AD-826F13244101@shaw.ca> References: <20070719014135.021271106414@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <51227508-156E-4418-A1AD-826F13244101@shaw.ca> Message-ID: >Hi > >I use that software from Intech. It works great gives me access to >320 GB internal IDE drive, but the only problem I didn't foresee is >when connecting the cube as a FW disk to another mac, it will not be >able to access anything past the 128 GB, EVEN IF the other mac loads >the Intech driver... so its a small limitation to be aware of. >Francois Hi Francois, another question yet: is your 320 GB drive formatted as one large partition (=320 GB)? Stefan From rmansfield at mac.com Mon Jul 23 11:07:23 2007 From: rmansfield at mac.com (Rick Mansfield) Date: Mon Jul 23 11:08:07 2007 Subject: [Cube] Studio Display In-Reply-To: <5CB4B9B8-A871-455A-B532-6F64196BCEBE@mac.com> References: <14CF8645-EA8A-445D-BA6D-7E0C8D5A8442@onlinecol.com> <5CB4B9B8-A871-455A-B532-6F64196BCEBE@mac.com> Message-ID: <3FAA61F7-5300-48C9-A0D4-9F0BB9C466D4@mac.com> A 17" Apple Studio Display (CRT) came with the Cube I got the other day. Now that I've transferred all my files to the Cube and was ready to set it up on my desk replacing my eMac, I've come to find out that this display is TOO TALL for my desk! Anyone know how to take the base off the Studio Display. I figured the cord could simply hang off the edge. But I can't figure out how to take it off. does anyone know if there are instructions on the internet? Thanks, Rick From macarlucci at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 06:49:14 2007 From: macarlucci at gmail.com (carlos) Date: Tue Jul 24 06:49:33 2007 Subject: [Cube] Video card In-Reply-To: References: <20070719014135.021271106414@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <51227508-156E-4418-A1AD-826F13244101@shaw.ca> Message-ID: <0582006E-6E98-4E5D-B3AB-83C16A6F1064@gmail.com> Hello from Portugal I receive this Cube MailList for some time now, but this is the first time i?m asking something, so i hope i?m doing it the right way. I have a 450mHz stock cube, that seems to to be having trouble with its video card. It?s yet to determine, but if it comes to having to replace it, my question is; Will a video card from a 400mHz G4 (AGP Graphics) wich is a ATI Rage 128 Pro with 16MB VRAM(VGA/ADC) fit in my Cube?? If it does fit, will that be all? Do i need any ROM flashing(?) on it?? Is there a "brackets issue as i?ve read about somewhere?? Thanks for any help Carlos macarlucci@gmail.com From riba at ml1.net Tue Jul 24 06:55:47 2007 From: riba at ml1.net (Riba) Date: Tue Jul 24 06:56:08 2007 Subject: [Cube] Video card In-Reply-To: <0582006E-6E98-4E5D-B3AB-83C16A6F1064@gmail.com> References: <20070719014135.021271106414@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <51227508-156E-4418-A1AD-826F13244101@shaw.ca> <0582006E-6E98-4E5D-B3AB-83C16A6F1064@gmail.com> Message-ID: On 2007.07.24, at 15:49, carlos wrote: > Hello from Portugal Hello Carlos! > I receive this Cube MailList for some time now, but this is the > first time i?m asking something, so i hope i?m doing it the right way. > I have a 450mHz stock cube, that seems to to be having trouble with > its video card. It?s yet to determine, but if it comes to having to > replace it, my question is; > Will a video card from a 400mHz G4 (AGP Graphics) wich is a ATI > Rage 128 Pro with 16MB VRAM(VGA/ADC) fit in my Cube?? > If it does fit, will that be all? > Do i need any ROM flashing(?) on it?? > Is there a "brackets issue as i?ve read about somewhere?? That card will fit perfectly in your Cube, you just have to remove the bracket from the old card and put it on the new one. There are just a couple of screws holding it in place. Which card do you currently have? From luis_meleiro at cilsp.com Tue Jul 24 06:58:34 2007 From: luis_meleiro at cilsp.com (Luis Meleiro) Date: Tue Jul 24 06:59:32 2007 Subject: [Cube] Video card Message-ID: Hi Carlos: I'm in Portugal and I also own a Cube. ATI Rage 128 Pro is Cube compatible and there's no need of flashing/hacking but you'll have to switch the GPU brackets (with the ones in the original one) to attach to to Cube's AGP slot. Please do note that this GPU will generate more heat than the original because of the different heatsink. Email me directly if you prefer and maybe I can help you out. Regards from Lx, LM >>>macarlucci@gmail.com 07/24/07 2:49 pm >>> Hello from Portugal I receive this Cube MailList for some time now, but this is the first time i?m asking something, so i hope i?m doing it the right way. I have a 450mHz stock cube, that seems to to be having trouble with its video card. It?s yet to determine, but if it comes to having to replace it, my question is; Will a video card from a 400mHz G4 (AGP Graphics) wich is a ATI Rage 128 Pro with 16MB VRAM(VGA/ADC) fit in my Cube?? If it does fit, will that be all? Do i need any ROM flashing(?) on it?? Is there a brackets issue as i?ve read about somewhere?? Thanks for any help Carlos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070724/6b0560db/attachment.html From macarlucci at gmail.com Tue Jul 24 07:04:25 2007 From: macarlucci at gmail.com (carlos) Date: Tue Jul 24 07:04:33 2007 Subject: [Cube] Video card In-Reply-To: References: <20070719014135.021271106414@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <51227508-156E-4418-A1AD-826F13244101@shaw.ca> <0582006E-6E98-4E5D-B3AB-83C16A6F1064@gmail.com> Message-ID: <6B921E2E-FB7F-4486-92B6-D22F93622F4B@gmail.com> On 2007/07/24, at 14:55, Riba wrote: > > On 2007.07.24, at 15:49, carlos wrote: > >> Hello from Portugal > > Hello Carlos! > >> I receive this Cube MailList for some time now, but this is the >> first time i?m asking something, so i hope i?m doing it the right >> way. >> I have a 450mHz stock cube, that seems to to be having trouble >> with its video card. It?s yet to determine, but if it comes to >> having to replace it, my question is; >> Will a video card from a 400mHz G4 (AGP Graphics) wich is a ATI >> Rage 128 Pro with 16MB VRAM(VGA/ADC) fit in my Cube?? >> If it does fit, will that be all? >> Do i need any ROM flashing(?) on it?? >> Is there a "brackets issue as i?ve read about somewhere?? > > That card will fit perfectly in your Cube, you just have to remove > the bracket from the old card and put it on the new one. There are > just a couple of screws holding it in place. Which card do you > currently have? Thanks for your reply I?m not near my Cube right now, but i believe the card is also ATI as i remember (maybe it?s the same ;) I?ll be able to check it out later, and report back. Thanks > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From rmansfield at mac.com Tue Jul 24 07:06:19 2007 From: rmansfield at mac.com (Rick Mansfield) Date: Tue Jul 24 07:06:30 2007 Subject: [Cube] Video card In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <1A082104-C09C-4E73-877C-450A3DC2BD74@mac.com> If I can jump into the conversation here, let me ask about the heating issue. I've got a new-to-me Cube and would like to upgrade both the processor and the video card. I've wondered if heat might be an issue since I don't want to shorten the life of what is already a seven year old computer. What is the overall consensus regarding the heat issue? Does it matter? Are there any external means of keeping a Cube cooled? Thanks, Rick On Jul 24, 2007, at 9:58 AM, Luis Meleiro wrote: > Hi Carlos: I'm in Portugal and I also own a Cube. ATI Rage 128 Pro > is Cube compatible and there's no need of flashing/hacking but > you'll have to switch the GPU brackets (with the ones in the > original one) to attach to to Cube's AGP slot. Please do note that > this GPU will generate more heat than the original because of the > different heatsink. > > Email me directly if you prefer and maybe I can help you out. > > Regards from Lx, > > LM > From luis_meleiro at cilsp.com Tue Jul 24 07:17:30 2007 From: luis_meleiro at cilsp.com (Luis Meleiro) Date: Tue Jul 24 07:18:04 2007 Subject: [Cube] Video card Message-ID: Hi Rick, These are my Cube specs running flawlessly for almost 3 years: Mac OS 10.4.10 | PowerLogix PowerForce 7447A Dual 1.7 GHz CPU + CHUD Tools v3.5.2 + NAP Settings ON* | 1.5 GB SDRAM | Samsung Spinpoint 7200 RPM 160 GB HDD [2 MB cache] | NVIDIA GeForce2 MX GPU [32 MB] + Spirica Extended Heatsink | Apple VRM + Spirica VRM Heatsink | Panasonic DL SuperDrive | Zalman ZM-OP1 Fan [7V] | Apple 17 LCD [ADC] | Apple iSight | Apple Pro Keyboard & Pro Mouse [black/original] | Harman/Kardon SoundSticks II | Griffin iMic [rev. B] *CHUD Tools v3.5.2 software with NAP Settings ON will reduce overheating problems and does almost the same PowerLogix CPU Director software does (except for monitoring temperatures). There is some controversy concerning the coolest GPUs for the Cubes using both VGA/ADC connectors but I'm pretty satisfied with mine, a NVIDIA GeForce2 MX pulled from a G4 tower. LM >>>rmansfield@mac.com 07/24/07 3:06 pm >>> If I can jump into the conversation here, let me ask about the heating issue. I've got a new-to-me Cube and would like to upgrade both the processor and the video card. I've wondered if heat might be an issue since I don't want to shorten the life of what is already a seven year old computer. What is the overall consensus regarding the heat issue? Does it matter? Are there any external means of keeping a Cube cooled? Thanks, Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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There is some controversy concerning the coolest GPUs for the Cubes using both VGA/ADC connectors but I'm pretty satisfied with mine, a NVIDIA GeForce2 MX pulled from a G4 tower. LM >>>rmansfield@mac.com 07/24/07 3:06 pm >>> If I can jump into the conversation here, let me ask about the heating issue. I've got a new-to-me Cube and would like to upgrade both the processor and the video card. I've wondered if heat might be an issue since I don't want to shorten the life of what is already a seven year old computer. What is the overall consensus regarding the heat issue? Does it matter? Are there any external means of keeping a Cube cooled? Thanks, Rick -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070724/05a5f227/attachment.html From luis_meleiro at cilsp.com Tue Jul 24 12:31:23 2007 From: luis_meleiro at cilsp.com (Luis Meleiro) Date: Tue Jul 24 12:31:48 2007 Subject: [Cube] Studio Display Message-ID: Rick: There you go... The page contains links to QuickTime Movies and written instructions, in both text and PDF format, for installing replacement parts for the Apple Studio Display 17-inch (ADC). Good luck, LM >>> rmansfield@mac.com 07/23/07 7:07 PM >>> A 17" Apple Studio Display (CRT) came with the Cube I got the other day. Now that I've transferred all my files to the Cube and was ready to set it up on my desk replacing my eMac, I've come to find out that this display is TOO TALL for my desk! Anyone know how to take the base off the Studio Display. I figured the cord could simply hang off the edge. But I can't figure out how to take it off. does anyone know if there are instructions on the internet? Thanks, Rick _______________________________________________ Cube mailing list Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From rmansfield at mac.com Tue Jul 24 12:38:53 2007 From: rmansfield at mac.com (Rick Mansfield) Date: Tue Jul 24 12:40:39 2007 Subject: [Cube] Studio Display In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <873DCD89-B29D-4D57-8626-D3406848A392@mac.com> Thanks, Luis. I actually figured this out yesterday and I am going to be able to keep the Cube because of this. Rick _________________________________________________ Rick Mansfield [ p. 502 .387 .6414 e. RMansfield@mac.com ] Website & Blog: http://thislamp.com http://tnivtruth.blogspot.com On Jul 24, 2007, at 3:31 PM, Luis Meleiro wrote: > Rick: There you go... > > > > The page contains links to QuickTime Movies and written > instructions, in > both text and PDF format, for installing replacement parts for the > Apple > Studio Display 17-inch (ADC). > > Good luck, > > LM > >>>> rmansfield@mac.com 07/23/07 7:07 PM >>> > A 17" Apple Studio Display (CRT) came with the Cube I got the other > day. > > Now that I've transferred all my files to the Cube and was ready to > set it up on my desk replacing my eMac, I've come to find out that > this display is TOO TALL for my desk! > > Anyone know how to take the base off the Studio Display. I figured > the cord could simply hang off the edge. But I can't figure out how > to take it off. does anyone know if there are instructions on the > internet? > > > Thanks, > Rick > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From franc-b at shaw.ca Tue Jul 24 15:03:58 2007 From: franc-b at shaw.ca (Francois) Date: Tue Jul 24 15:04:52 2007 Subject: Fwd: [Cube] MAzimum Hard Drive size for Cube ? References: <32EDBC8D-6FFA-48EC-A1C8-14245E7E33A5@shaw.ca> Message-ID: From: Francois Date: July 24, 2007 11:19:51 AM MDT (CA) To: cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com Subject: Re: [Cube] MAzimum Hard Drive size for Cube ? Hi Stefan, I have used OSX since the first version on my cube. I've installed every upgrade available and have used an 80GB drive the whole time. Not once has the HD given me a scare. (not to mention all that time on OS9 I think I had maybe 1 incident). The reason I told you that is so that you have an idea of how unlikely having to repair my disk is. So it's not too big of an issue for me. If I did need to do that though it would be time for me to put that drive in a Mac Pro to repair it as it would be WAY faster. From my memory when I installed the driver I did test a few of your questions out. I was able to access the drive in every case - except when connected by firewire in any method. I will try to test it again to see if it still works! On Jul 20, 2007, at 10:06 AM, cube- request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2007 17:09:25 +0200 > From: Stefan > Subject: Re: [Cube] MAzimum Hard Drive size for Cube ? > To: "A place to discuss Apple's Cube." > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > >> Hi >> >> I use that software from Intech. It works great gives me access to >> 320 GB internal IDE drive, but the only problem I didn't foresee is >> when connecting the cube as a FW disk to another mac, it will not be >> able to access anything past the 128 GB, EVEN IF the other mac loads >> the Intech driver... so its a small limitation to be aware of. >> Francois > > Hi Francois, > > > I read your posting. > > Some years ago I installed the Intech-driver for a while but found it > instable then. > And I was concerned for my data. > Now you brought back my interest. :-) > > Do you have experiences with situations when you had to repair your > (large!) harddisk > by booting in root-mode or with harddisk-toolkit (original Apple or > other) when starting from a connected firewire-drive? (I don't mean > target-mode!) > Does the 128 GB-limit exist in that case too? > > That's what moves my mind. > > Or are there any other problems to mention? > I hope you will tell us everything of importance? > > > Thanks for answering in advance > Stefan From franc-b at shaw.ca Tue Jul 24 15:04:53 2007 From: franc-b at shaw.ca (Francois) Date: Tue Jul 24 15:05:26 2007 Subject: [Cube] (no subject) Message-ID: <938FE1CD-799B-43AE-9BB8-A90AAB41F207@shaw.ca> Stefan, My HD is a 300GB Seagate Barracuda (if I remember correctly) and it's formatted in 120GB, 60GB and 60GB partitions Francois > On Jul 24, 2007, at 7:56 AM, cube- > request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 23 Jul 2007 10:27:02 +0200 > From: Stefan > Subject: Re: [Cube] MAzimum Hard Drive size for Cube ? > To: "A place to discuss Apple's Cube." > > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Hi > > I use that software from Intech. It works great gives me access to > 320 GB internal IDE drive, but the only problem I didn't foresee is > when connecting the cube as a FW disk to another mac, it will not be > able to access anything past the 128 GB, EVEN IF the other mac loads > the Intech driver... so its a small limitation to be aware of. > Francois > > Hi Francois, > > another question yet: > is your 320 GB drive formatted as one large partition (=320 GB)? > > Stefan From dads at tds.net Tue Jul 24 15:48:17 2007 From: dads at tds.net (Erik Ness) Date: Tue Jul 24 15:48:48 2007 Subject: [Cube] Giga designs? In-Reply-To: <938FE1CD-799B-43AE-9BB8-A90AAB41F207@shaw.ca> References: <938FE1CD-799B-43AE-9BB8-A90AAB41F207@shaw.ca> Message-ID: Anybody use the Giga upgrade and care to report in a sentence or two their overall experience? I recall the install was not so easy to do. Has anybody done it, and just how challenging was it? Cheers, Erik -- ###################################################### Erik Ness 608-242-7604 http://erikness.com Winner, 2006 Gold for environmental features International Regional Magazine Association http://erikness.com/Stories/wind.html From aptn05 at dsl.pipex.com Wed Jul 25 07:10:55 2007 From: aptn05 at dsl.pipex.com (Steven Southerden Dive) Date: Wed Jul 25 07:11:22 2007 Subject: [Cube] Studio Display In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Luis, anyone, Has anyone taken one of these displays apart for cleaning the insides? There are hex screws around the outside that appear to be the only fixings but I want to make sure of doing this right. I've tried searching the Apple knowledge base but nothing useful turns up. This display looks great when new, with its tranparent enclosures but mine has become pretty dusty inside over the years. I am aware of how to handle HT CRT's so opening one isn't a problem regarding safety. I just want to blow the dust out without touching any conductors. Thanks Steve On 24 Jul 2007, at 20:31, Luis Meleiro wrote: > Rick: There you go... > > > > The page contains links to QuickTime Movies and written > instructions, in > both text and PDF format, for installing replacement parts for the > Apple > Studio Display 17-inch (ADC). > > Good luck, > > LM > >>>> rmansfield@mac.com 07/23/07 7:07 PM >>> > A 17" Apple Studio Display (CRT) came with the Cube I got the other > day. > > Now that I've transferred all my files to the Cube and was ready to > set it up on my desk replacing my eMac, I've come to find out that > this display is TOO TALL for my desk! > > Anyone know how to take the base off the Studio Display. I figured > the cord could simply hang off the edge. But I can't figure out how > to take it off. does anyone know if there are instructions on the > internet? > > > Thanks, > Rick > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From luis_meleiro at cilsp.com Wed Jul 25 07:35:37 2007 From: luis_meleiro at cilsp.com (Luis Meleiro) Date: Wed Jul 25 07:36:09 2007 Subject: [Cube] Studio Display Message-ID: Hi Steve, I've had mine for a short period of time 3-to-5 months (short enough not to notice it getting dirty) and was replaced by my current 17 LCD (ADC). I'm affraid you'd have to get the Apple Service Manual to get the job well done without taking any kind of risks. I will google and will get back if I succeed in finding that manual. LM >>>aptn05@dsl.pipex.com 07/25/07 3:10 pm >>> Luis, anyone, Has anyone taken one of these displays apart for cleaning the insides? There are hex screws around the outside that appear to be the only fixings but I want to make sure of doing this right. I've tried searching the Apple knowledge base but nothing useful turns up. This display looks great when new, with its tranparent enclosures but mine has become pretty dusty inside over the years. I am aware of how to handle HT CRT's so opening one isn't a problem regarding safety. I just want to blow the dust out without touching any conductors. Thanks Steve -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070725/58edb38b/attachment.html From sethwm2 at gmail.com Wed Jul 25 08:28:25 2007 From: sethwm2 at gmail.com (Seth Maynard) Date: Wed Jul 25 08:28:48 2007 Subject: [Cube] Studio Display In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <24CC93C1-47DD-4D68-8E58-9403E75F506F@gmail.com> Yeah all I can say is be careful!! You don't want to damage the LCD or yourself!! Using the hex keys should be good. Don't use windex get something maid to clean LCD screens you might take the costing off the screen if you use to harsh of a chemical. - Seth Maynard On Jul 25, 2007, at 10:35 AM, "Luis Meleiro" wrote: > Hi Steve, > > I've had mine for a short period of time 3-to-5 months (short enough > not to notice it getting dirty) and was replaced by my current 17" > LCD (ADC). > I'm affraid you'd have to get the "Apple Service Manual" to get the > job well done without taking any kind of risks. > > I will google and will get back if I succeed in finding that manual. > > LM > > >>>aptn05@dsl.pipex.com 07/25/07 3:10 pm >>> > Luis, anyone, > > Has anyone taken one of these displays apart for cleaning the > insides? There are hex screws around the outside that appear to be > the only fixings but I want to make sure of doing this right. I've > tried searching the Apple knowledge base but nothing useful turns up. > > This display looks great when new, with its tranparent enclosures but > mine has become pretty dusty inside over the years. I am aware of how > to handle HT CRT's so opening one isn't a problem regarding safety. I > just want to blow the dust out without touching any conductors. > > Thanks > > Steve > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From luis_meleiro at cilsp.com Wed Jul 25 09:21:37 2007 From: luis_meleiro at cilsp.com (Luis Meleiro) Date: Wed Jul 25 09:22:20 2007 Subject: [Cube] Studio Display Message-ID: Hi Seth, My understanding is Steve wants to clean the inner parts of an Apple 17 CRT monitor, not the Apple 17 LCD display. Though I agree with you about being careful... Here: < http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=26247 > LM >>>sethwm2@gmail.com 07/25/07 4:28 pm >>> Yeah all I can say is be careful!! You don't want to damage the LCD or yourself!! Using the hex keys should be good. Don't use windex get something maid to clean LCD screens you might take the costing off the screen if you use to harsh of a chemical. - Seth Maynard -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/cube/attachments/20070725/fe447ec2/attachment.html From aptn05 at dsl.pipex.com Wed Jul 25 11:41:47 2007 From: aptn05 at dsl.pipex.com (Steven Southerden Dive) Date: Wed Jul 25 11:42:07 2007 Subject: [Cube] Studio Display In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Yes, it's the CRT type. This was the middle one in the range of displays that were part of the Cube options originally; the ones on either side size-wise being LCD's. If anyone can find an engineer's handbook, that would be the most useful. BTW, it's the shell casing surrounding the electronics and tube thats dusty, and the electronics, and all very visible. I'll be using an 'E.cloth' to clean most of it - no chemicals - and a camera brush-puffer and tiny plastic vac cleaner for the rest. Steve On 25 Jul 2007, at 17:21, Luis Meleiro wrote: > Hi Seth, > > My understanding is Steve wants to clean the inner parts of an > Apple 17" CRT monitor, not the Apple 17" LCD display. > Though I agree with you about being careful... > > Here: < http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=26247 > > > LM > > >>>sethwm2@gmail.com 07/25/07 4:28 pm >>> > Yeah all I can say is be careful!! You don't want to damage the LCD or > yourself!! Using the hex keys should be good. Don't use windex get > something maid to clean LCD screens you might take the costing off the > screen if you use to harsh of a chemical. > > - Seth Maynard > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube From atoa at krak.net Wed Jul 25 11:49:59 2007 From: atoa at krak.net (atoa) Date: Wed Jul 25 11:50:11 2007 Subject: [Cube] Studio Display In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I haven't a clue where to find that. It really must be hidden. http://home.earthlink.net/~strahm_s/manuals.html Really. On Wed, 25 Jul 2007, Steven Southerden Dive wrote: > Yes, it's the CRT type. This was the middle one in the range of displays that > were part of the Cube options originally; the ones on either side size-wise > being LCD's. If anyone can find an engineer's handbook, that would be the > most useful. BTW, it's the shell casing surrounding the electronics and tube > thats dusty, and the electronics, and all very visible. I'll be using an > 'E.cloth' to clean most of it - no chemicals - and a camera brush-puffer and > tiny plastic vac cleaner for the rest. > > Steve > > On 25 Jul 2007, at 17:21, Luis Meleiro wrote: > >> Hi Seth, >> >> My understanding is Steve wants to clean the inner parts of an Apple 17" >> CRT monitor, not the Apple 17" LCD display. >> Though I agree with you about being careful... >> >> Here: < http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=26247 > >> >> LM >> >>>>> sethwm2@gmail.com 07/25/07 4:28 pm >>> >> Yeah all I can say is be careful!! You don't want to damage the LCD or >> yourself!! Using the hex keys should be good. Don't use windex get >> something maid to clean LCD screens you might take the costing off the >> screen if you use to harsh of a chemical. >> >> - Seth Maynard >> _______________________________________________ >> Cube mailing list >> Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube > > _______________________________________________ > Cube mailing list > Cube@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/cube