[Duo2400] Re: Expanding the list -- not closing it.

[Larry Friedman]

I think the 12" Powerbooks would be more relevant if they could boot 
into 9 because then all of the 2400 troubleshooting techniques would at 
least be relevant. We just had a lengthy discussion about D-O-C-S, how 
is this relevant to an OSX machine regardless of the size? This list 
appeals to me the same way the 68KMLA does, it is a great repository of 
older Mac information, and having my current technology sorted I have 
decided to revisit my roots so to speak.

I haven't checked out the other lists, but the consensus I am getting 
is that they are more impersonal, that happens with a larger group. We 
could always unofficially open this list to the 12", thus keeping the 
group small (a tongue-in-cheek "you can discuss the 12" Powerbook, but 
only if you still own a Duo or 2400").

~ Larry

On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 11:12  AM, Ivan Drucker wrote:

>> I remember a debate over 2400c's and Duos being on the same list. The
>> principal issue raised by the splitters was how different the 2400c 
>> was
>> from the other sub-notebook Duos. Eric decided to not split the list,
>> partly as I recall because so many 2400c owners also owned or had 
>> owned
>> Duos, keeping that expertise a part of the community. The 12.1" iBook
>> arrived after there already was an iBook list [P1] and the original
>> iBook was far from being a sub-notebook. But many 2400c owners bought
>> 12.1" iBooks so it is reasonable that they be considered to be added.
>
> Good points, Bill. I think part of the problem that we're facing is 
> that
> this is a "connoisseur's list" -- the Duo and 2400 may be different, 
> but
> they're both unusual, elegant machines which cost as much or more than
> their larger counterparts that did more out of the box, but which we 
> all
> bought because we knew they were cooler (and smaller, but that's part 
> of
> cooler too). The Duo was never as popular as the 1xx, and the 2400 is
> pretty rare.
>
> The fear I have is that the 12" G4 will be a commodity item, like the
> iBook, and expanding the list to include it will change the feel. Many 
> of
> us may buy a 12" G4 (or have already bought an iBook, as I have), and
> would continue to enjoy talking to each other about our new machines, 
> but
> we don't want to join the iBook lists because we have found them to be
> unsatisfying in some way (myself included). Personally, I'd love to 
> talk
> about my new 12" here, but I don't want it to turn into the iBook list.
>
> I am not at all xenophobic about new list members. I just want to
> preserve the nature of the list. To me, it almost seems like less of a
> reach to expand it to other unusual Macs (PB 100, 20th Anniversary,
> MacTV, even Cube), because those are all products that stand apart from
> others, and the people who bought them (or are still using them)
> deliberately made the same sort of decisions we did when we bought our
> Duos or 2400's. (I know, we mainly bought our machines for size, but 
> I'm
> guessing at least some of us wouldn't have bought them if they weren't
> also elegantly and interestingly designed.)
>
> Anyway, I'm not advocating a position here, other than to say that if 
> the
> list DOES expand to include other products, I hope it can do so in a 
> way
> that preserves the collector's interest that we have here.
>
> Ivan.
>
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