From mko at nt.net Mon Oct 8 18:31:20 2007 From: mko at nt.net (mko@nt.net) Date: Mon Oct 8 17:27:00 2007 Subject: [DuoList] OT/ Intel-Classic In-Reply-To: <20070921004856.E6A631671003@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070921004856.E6A631671003@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: Is it true the Intel Macs can't run Classic? If so, what was the last Macbook Pro that could? I'd like to get a new machine but I still need OS9 for a few things. TIA From joshkeady at msn.com Mon Oct 8 17:32:50 2007 From: joshkeady at msn.com (Josh Keady) Date: Mon Oct 8 17:33:13 2007 Subject: [DuoList] OT/ Intel-Classic In-Reply-To: References: <20070921004856.E6A631671003@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: No Intel Macs can run classic without some software to emulate a 68k / PPC machine. All MacBooks / MacBook Pros have Intel processors, and as such, no MacBook or MacBook Pro can run Classic. PowerBook G4s and iBook G4s are the last Apple portables that can run Classic. Josh On Oct 8, 2007, at 6:31 PM, mko@nt.net wrote: > Is it true the Intel Macs can't run Classic? > If so, what was the last Macbook Pro that could? > I'd like to get a new machine but I still need OS9 > for a few things. > > TIA > _______________________________________________ > DuoList mailing list > DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist From rich at daniellefineart.com Tue Oct 9 15:24:35 2007 From: rich at daniellefineart.com (Rich Bussone) Date: Tue Oct 9 15:24:20 2007 Subject: [DuoList] (no subject) Message-ID: I tried both options, but I can't seem to transfer the files to the power mac. I have system 8.0 and the download for Apple share client 3.8 allows downloading all at once or in parts. I am downloading them on my iMac. If I burn a CD the power mac can't read it. If I download the floppys they are 1.4mb. They fit on the floppys if they are in dos format, but they won't open on the power mac. if I convert them to Mac OS Standard there is only 1.2mb available and the information won't fit. What am I missing here? Rich On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 Jeff Mendoza" wrote You could always download the System 7.5.3 disks. Read more here: http://www.lowendmac.com/macos.shtml On 9/22/07, Clark Martin wrote: > > At 1:32 PM -0400 9/22/07, Rich Bussone wrote: > >> The only o/s install disks I have are in CD's. I only have a floppy >> drive on the duo dock. I do have a Power pc 6100/60 AV that I am >> also planning to donate with an external SCSI drive, but I don't >> have a notebook SCSI cable. I do have a duo dock and ethernet, but >> neither the Power PC or the duo will connect. I don't recall the >> exact error message but it said that somehow that the system was not >> compatible with the ethernet. I think they are running on system 8 >> and the newer computers are on system 10.4. Is there some way I can >> make them compatable? >> > > It's likely you need to updated the AFP driver: > > > > It's for OS 8.1 and up but has notes about other versions. > -- > Clark Martin > Redwood City, CA, USA > Macintosh / Internet Consulting > > "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" > From pulsifer at drtel.net Tue Oct 9 12:43:26 2007 From: pulsifer at drtel.net (Mel Pulsifer) Date: Wed Oct 10 05:55:15 2007 Subject: [DuoList] OT/ Intel-Classic In-Reply-To: References: <20070921004856.E6A631671003@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <4DC416DF-4C13-48F0-9013-8ABE3E31EAA2@drtel.net> No, it is not true. Check the kink below. Just checked the url and info is still there. Mel Pulsifer <>< pulsifer@drtel.net On Oct 8, 2007, at 8:31 PM, mko@nt.net wrote: > Is it true the Intel Macs can't run Classic? From cacanne at chibardun.net Wed Oct 10 06:25:14 2007 From: cacanne at chibardun.net (Tom Ethen) Date: Wed Oct 10 06:29:34 2007 Subject: [DuoList] OT/ Intel-Classic In-Reply-To: <4DC416DF-4C13-48F0-9013-8ABE3E31EAA2@drtel.net> Message-ID: On 10/9/07 2:43 PM, "Mel Pulsifer" wrote: http//www.tuaw.com/2006/08/21/run-classic-on-an-intel-mac/ Doesn't work for me! From brandybndr at hotmail.com Wed Oct 10 16:09:06 2007 From: brandybndr at hotmail.com (Brandy) Date: Wed Oct 10 16:09:18 2007 Subject: [DuoList] OT/ Intel-Classic In-Reply-To: References: <4DC416DF-4C13-48F0-9013-8ABE3E31EAA2@drtel.net> Message-ID: The correct link should be http://www.tuaw.com/2006/08/21/run-classic-on-an-intel-mac/ either just copy from the www on or be sure that it is http:// not http// -----Original Message----- From: duolist-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com [mailto:duolist-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com] On Behalf Of Tom Ethen Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2007 6:25 AM To: A place to discuss Apple's sub-portable computers. Subject: Re: [DuoList] OT/ Intel-Classic On 10/9/07 2:43 PM, "Mel Pulsifer" wrote: http//www.tuaw.com/2006/08/21/run-classic-on-an-intel-mac/ Doesn't work for me! From g_alan_e at yahoo.com Wed Oct 10 20:40:17 2007 From: g_alan_e at yahoo.com (Gregg Eshelman) Date: Wed Oct 10 20:40:23 2007 Subject: [DuoList] OT/ Intel-Classic In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <807843.62801.qm@web50305.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --- Tom Ethen wrote: > On 10/9/07 2:43 PM, "Mel Pulsifer" > wrote: > > http//www.tuaw.com/2006/08/21/run-classic-on-an-intel-mac/ > > Doesn't work for me! Left the colon : out after http ____________________________________________________________________________________ Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online. http://smallbusiness.yahoo.com/webhosting From grizzlygiant1 at sbcglobal.net Wed Oct 10 21:32:59 2007 From: grizzlygiant1 at sbcglobal.net (BOB No) Date: Wed Oct 10 21:33:37 2007 Subject: [DuoList] (no subject) In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Oct 9, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Rich Bussone wrote: > I tried both options, but I can't seem to transfer the files to the > power mac. I have system 8.0 and the download for Apple share > client 3.8 allows downloading all at once or in parts. I am > downloading them on my iMac. If I burn a CD the power mac can't > read it. If I download the floppys they are 1.4mb. They fit on the > floppys if they are in dos format, but they won't open on the power > mac. if I convert them to Mac OS Standard there is only 1.2mb > available and the information won't fit. What am I missing here? > > Rich > > On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 Jeff Mendoza" > wrote > > You could always download the System 7.5.3 disks. Read more here: > http://www.lowendmac.com/macos.shtml > > On 9/22/07, Clark Martin wrote: > >> >> At 1:32 PM -0400 9/22/07, Rich Bussone wrote: >> >>> The only o/s install disks I have are in CD's. I only have a floppy >>> drive on the duo dock. I do have a Power pc 6100/60 AV that I am >>> also planning to donate with an external SCSI drive, but I don't >>> have a notebook SCSI cable. I do have a duo dock and ethernet, but >>> neither the Power PC or the duo will connect. I don't recall the >>> exact error message but it said that somehow that the system was not >>> compatible with the ethernet. I think they are running on system 8 >>> and the newer computers are on system 10.4. Is there some way I can >>> make them compatable? >>> >> >> It's likely you need to updated the AFP driver: >> >> >> >> It's for OS 8.1 and up but has notes about other versions. >> -- >> Clark Martin >> Redwood City, CA, USA >> Macintosh / Internet Consulting >> >> "I'm a designated driver on the Information Super Highway" >> > _______________________________________________ > Hello: Did we quit top down posting here? I would like to help but the state of this post makes the problem very confusing and greatly lacking in necessary detail for anyone just starting. Yes, I know, I may have missed previous posts. If you (Rich) would restate the problem in detail, assuming you haven't solved it already, you will do two things: 1.) Either figure out the solution yourself in the process, or 2.) Give Clark or me or someone else the ability to solve the problem. What are the exact machine descriptions? What are the operating systems involved? Please enumerate the number of transfer types available to you, hard drive bus, ethernet, serial cable, CD, floppy (the solution to the floppy problem would be to get either a hex editor or a floppy size file splitter. Stuffit should be able to do this, along with other file compressors. Apples' Disk Copy can also do this. Split the files to what you need and transfer and reassemble if you have an operating system that will handle the same file splitter on the Duo), etc. Sincerely yours, Grizzled Giant From artrice66 at yahoo.com Fri Oct 12 06:56:06 2007 From: artrice66 at yahoo.com (Art Rice) Date: Fri Oct 12 06:56:19 2007 Subject: [DuoList] Duo Clean OS install-Powerbook SCSI adapter plus cable In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <84274.39589.qm@web50907.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Rich, A search on eBay found this Apple HDI SCSI adapter plus cable. Maybe it would allow you to transfer the files to the Duo to do a clean install. http://cgi.ebay.com/Apple-Powerbook-HDI-HDI-30-HDI30-SCSI-Adapter-Cable_W0QQitemZ140167171778QQihZ004QQcategoryZ31494QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Good luck, Art in Silicon Valley Rich Bussone wrote: 9/22/07, Rich Bussone wrote: > >> The only o/s install disks I have are in CD's. I only have a floppy >> drive on the duo dock. I do have a Power pc 6100/60 AV that I am >> also planning to donate with an external SCSI drive, but I don't >> have a notebook SCSI cable. I>> _______________________________________________ DuoList mailing list DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20071012/346ba004/attachment.html From rich at daniellefineart.com Fri Oct 12 11:31:52 2007 From: rich at daniellefineart.com (Rich Bussone) Date: Fri Oct 12 11:31:29 2007 Subject: [DuoList] Re: Duos for Donation Message-ID: <1AEEF558-1420-4D87-BF75-01C74A3C1E4C@daniellefineart.com> -----Original Message----- From: duolist-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com [mailto:duolist-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com] On Behalf Of Rich Bussone Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:03 PM To: duolist@listserver.themacintoshguy.com Subject: [DuoList] duo's for donation Hi I have two duo's that I need to get rid of. I would like to donate them to anyone willing to pay postage, but I would like to do a clean install or somehow erase the drives. Can anyone advise me how I can do this? Thanks Rich On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:06:23 -0500 Jeff Mendoza" wrote: You could always download the System 7.5.3 disks. Read more here: http://www.lowendmac.com/macos.shtml On 9/22/07, Clark Martin wrote: > > At 1:32 PM -0400 9/22/07, Rich Bussone wrote: > >> The only o/s install disks I have are in CD's. I only have a floppy >> drive on the duo dock. I do have a Power pc 6100/60 AV that I am >> also planning to donate with an external SCSI drive, but I don't >> have a notebook SCSI cable. I do have a duo dock and ethernet, but >> neither the Power PC or the duo will connect. I don't recall the >> exact error message but it said that somehow that the system was not >> compatible with the ethernet. I think they are running on system 8 >> and the newer computers are on system 10.4. Is there some way I can >> make them compatable? >> > > It's likely you need to updated the AFP driver: > > > > It's for OS 8.1 and up but has notes about other versions. > -- > Clark Martin > Redwood City, CA, USA > Macintosh / Internet Consulting > Sorry for the mis-posting earlier. I hope this is the correct format. I found the sites for both the system 7.5.3 and the one for the Apple share client 3.8, but now I seem to be having problems downloading them to floppy disks or to CD's. I am downloading them on my iMac. If I burn a CD the power mac can't read it. If I download the floppys they are 1.4mb. They fit on the floppys if they are in dos format, but they won't open on the power mac or the duos. if I convert them to Mac OS Standard there is only 1.2mb available and the information won't fit. What am I missing here? Rich From grizzlygiant1 at sbcglobal.net Sat Oct 13 00:16:50 2007 From: grizzlygiant1 at sbcglobal.net (BOB No) Date: Sat Oct 13 00:17:26 2007 Subject: [DuoList] Re: Duos for Donation In-Reply-To: <1AEEF558-1420-4D87-BF75-01C74A3C1E4C@daniellefineart.com> References: <1AEEF558-1420-4D87-BF75-01C74A3C1E4C@daniellefineart.com> Message-ID: On Oct 12, 2007, at 1:31 PM, Rich Bussone wrote: > -----Original Message----- > > Rich Bussone > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:03 PM > To: duolist@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > Subject: [DuoList] duo's for donation > > Hi > > I have two duo's that I need to get rid of. I would like to donate > them > to anyone willing to pay postage, but I would like to do a clean > install > or somehow erase the drives. Can anyone advise me how I can do this? > > Rich > > On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:06:23 -0500 > Jeff Mendoza" > wrote: > > You could always download the System 7.5.3 disks. Read more here: > http://www.lowendmac.com/macos.shtml > > On 9/22/07, Clark Martin wrote: > >> >> At 1:32 PM -0400 9/22/07, Rich Bussone wrote: >> >>> The only o/s install disks I have are in CD's. I only have a floppy >>> drive on the duo dock. I do have a Power pc 6100/60 AV that I am >>> also planning to donate with an external SCSI drive, but I don't >>> have a notebook SCSI cable. I do have a duo dock and ethernet, but >>> neither the Power PC or the duo will connect. I don't recall the >>> exact error message but it said that somehow that the system was not >>> compatible with the ethernet. I think they are running on system 8 >>> and the newer computers are on system 10.4. Is there some way I can >>> make them compatable? >>> >> >> It's likely you need to updated the AFP driver:, etc. >> >> It's for OS 8.1 and up but has notes about other versions.g >> > > Sorry for the mis-posting earlier. I hope this is the correct > format. I found the sites for both the system 7.5.3 and the one > for the Apple share client 3.8, but now I seem to be having > problems downloading them to floppy disks or to CD's. I am > downloading them on my iMac. If I burn a CD the power mac can't > read it. If I download the floppys they are 1.4mb. They fit on the > floppys if they are in dos format, but they won't open on the power > mac or the duos. if I convert them to Mac OS Standard there is > only 1.2mb available and the information won't fit. What am I > missing here? > > Rich Hello Rich: The PowerMac CD ROM (-R, etc.) or the burning software might be having problems. What burning software (version, OS version, etc.) are you using? I suggest trying to fix the CD problem first, since that will satisfy your original intent and future CD/DVD exchange issues. Can the iMac read its' own CD/DVDs? Can the burned CDs be mounted at all on the PM? In _my_ experience, some older PMs, such as the 6100-9600s, have original CD drives that don't read CD-RWs, . I had to use CD-Rs in that situation. Next suggestion: USB drives are cheap, USB cards for old PowerMacs are cheap. You can use the $5-7 ADS technologies card (I bought the same one for $50 six years ago) from Newegg or your local computer electronics store in your 6100 if you have the Apple USB drivers loaded. You may have to leave the case cover off while you do it. If this doesn't help, keep feeding us data, and we'll keep trying. Grizzled giant From rich at daniellefineart.com Thu Oct 18 15:37:27 2007 From: rich at daniellefineart.com (Rich Bussone) Date: Thu Oct 18 15:36:45 2007 Subject: [DuoList] Re: Duos for Donation Message-ID: On Oct 12, 2007, at 1:31 PM, Rich Bussone wrote: > -----Original Message----- > > Rich Bussone > Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2007 1:03 PM > To: duolist@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > Subject: [DuoList] duo's for donation > > Hi > > I have two duo's that I need to get rid of. I would like to donate > them > to anyone willing to pay postage, but I would like to do a clean > install > or somehow erase the drives. Can anyone advise me how I can do this? > > Rich > > On Sat, 22 Sep 2007 23:06:23 -0500 > Jeff Mendoza" > wrote: > > You could always download the System 7.5.3 disks. Read more here: > http://www.lowendmac.com/macos.shtml > > On 9/22/07, Clark Martin wrote: > > >> >> At 1:32 PM -0400 9/22/07, Rich Bussone wrote: >> >> >>> The only o/s install disks I have are in CD's. I only have a floppy >>> drive on the duo dock. I do have a Power pc 6100/60 AV that I am >>> also planning to donate with an external SCSI drive, but I don't >>> have a notebook SCSI cable. I do have a duo dock and ethernet, but >>> neither the Power PC or the duo will connect. I don't recall the >>> exact error message but it said that somehow that the system was not >>> compatible with the ethernet. I think they are running on system 8 >>> and the newer computers are on system 10.4. Is there some way I can >>> make them compatable? >>> >>> >> >> It's likely you need to updated the AFP driver:, etc. >> >> It's for OS 8.1 and up but has notes about other versions.g >> >> > > Sorry for the mis-posting earlier. I hope this is the correct > format. I found the sites for both the system 7.5.3 and the one > for the Apple share client 3.8, but now I seem to be having > problems downloading them to floppy disks or to CD's. I am > downloading them on my iMac. If I burn a CD the power mac can't > read it. If I download the floppys they are 1.4mb. They fit on the > floppys if they are in dos format, but they won't open on the power > mac or the duos. if I convert them to Mac OS Standard there is > only 1.2mb available and the information won't fit. What am I > missing here? > > Rich > Hello Rich: The PowerMac CD ROM (-R, etc.) or the burning software might be having problems. What burning software (version, OS version, etc.) are you using? I suggest trying to fix the CD problem first, since that will satisfy your original intent and future CD/DVD exchange issues. Can the iMac read its' own CD/DVDs? Can the burned CDs be mounted at all on the PM? In _my_ experience, some older PMs, such as the 6100-9600s, have original CD drives that don't read CD-RWs, . I had to use CD-Rs in that situation. Next suggestion: USB drives are cheap, USB cards for old PowerMacs are cheap. You can use the $5-7 ADS technologies card (I bought the same one for $50 six years ago) from Newegg or your local computer electronics store in your 6100 if you have the Apple USB drivers loaded. You may have to leave the case cover off while you do it. If this doesn't help, keep feeding us data, and we'll keep trying. Grizzled giant Thanks for the info. I found out that I was burning Mac OS extended CD-Rs and my power mac will only read Mac OS CD's. I burned a Mac OS C-R on Toast lite and the Power Mac read it fine. I have the power mac and the Duo connected via ethernet, but I still need to do a clean install on the Duos. I haven't checked out the USB drive since the nearest computer stores are Circuit City and Best Buy which are 40 minutes away and I am not sure they would carry them. I have a OS 8.0, but how I can use it on the power mac to install on the duo? Rich From allenpau at wellsfargo.com Thu Oct 18 15:59:40 2007 From: allenpau at wellsfargo.com (allenpau@wellsfargo.com) Date: Thu Oct 18 15:59:59 2007 Subject: [DuoList] Re: Duos for Donation References: Message-ID: <3F431F08B1451E4DA01A752BAC272CE308C929@msgswbmnmsp10.wellsfargo.com> Rich Wrote: Thanks for the info. I found out that I was burning Mac OS extended CD-Rs and my power mac will only read Mac OS CD's. I burned a Mac OS C-R on Toast lite and the Power Mac read it fine. I have the power mac and the Duo connected via ethernet, but I still need to do a clean install on the Duos. I haven't checked out the USB drive since the nearest computer stores are Circuit City and Best Buy which are 40 minutes away and I am not sure they would carry them. I have a OS 8.0, but how I can use it on the power mac to install on the duo? Rich _______________________________________________ DuoList mailing list DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist Rich, Remember, not all Duo's can do OS 8. Only the 280 and 2300, if memory serves, and only if they have enough memory. If you have a floppy drive for the Duo's on the dock, then looks for the Network Boot Disk on Gamba's site (search up gamba.) It will let you boot into a very basic version of OS 7.5.3. You can then format the hard drives in the Duo's and then copy the floppy's contents onto the Duo's hard drive. They will boot from that OS. If you have Tome viewer(easily found on the net, look at OS 9 Forever web page), you can then extract out extentions, control panels etc. on you power Mac to floppy's and copy them to the duo's system folder. This is a bit complicated, buy it works. And they need to be file from a version of OS 7. All this is barring your ability to connect an external cd drive to the Dock to facilitate an installation from a cd. Another option is to put the Duo's in the dock, (does it have a db25 scsi connector?) connect it to the scsi port on the ppc, start the ppc then start the duo in the dock and install the OS in what is called "target disk mode". It basically means that the ppc looks at the duo in the dock like an external hdd. By the way, if your ppc is a 6100, then it is a first generation ppc and is non pci. It's nubus and there is no such thing at this time as usb for nubus, though strangly there is a guy who has developed a card for the Apple II that has a USB port and also an adapter to read complact flash cards. From artrice66 at yahoo.com Fri Oct 19 07:34:01 2007 From: artrice66 at yahoo.com (Art Rice) Date: Fri Oct 19 07:34:10 2007 Subject: [DuoList] Re: Duos for Donation In-Reply-To: <3F431F08B1451E4DA01A752BAC272CE308C929@msgswbmnmsp10.wellsfargo.com> Message-ID: <454146.61320.qm@web50906.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi, About the target disk mode: To connect your DuoDock to a normal SCSI cable, you will need an HDI-30 adapter. One was available on eBay with a SCSI cable and it sold for $0.99 plus about $10 shipping. I see them often on eBay. Art in Silicon Valley. allenpau@wellsfargo.com wrote: Another option is to put the Duo's in the dock, (does it have a db25 scsi connector?) connect it to the scsi port on the ppc, start the ppc then start the duo in the dock and install the OS in what is called "target disk mode". It basically means that the ppc looks at the duo in the dock like an external hdd. _______________________________________________ DuoList mailing list DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20071019/a4167ef4/attachment.html From artrice66 at yahoo.com Fri Oct 19 08:04:45 2007 From: artrice66 at yahoo.com (Art Rice) Date: Fri Oct 19 08:04:57 2007 Subject: [DuoList] Re: Duos for Donation In-Reply-To: <3F431F08B1451E4DA01A752BAC272CE308C929@msgswbmnmsp10.wellsfargo.com> Message-ID: <267020.85063.qm@web50908.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Hi Rich and Allen, I just read the manual for the Duo 2300c and it says the DuoDock Plus does NOT support the target disk mode through the SCSI port on the back. I don't know if the older DuoDock supports it or not. Another option I haven't heard mentioned is using the Appletalk ports. I bought a couple of Appletalk transceivers and used them to connect my Duo 2300c to an Apple 100 MHz PPC desktop (can't remember the model number) to transfer files back and forth. I don't know if you could format the hard drive that way or install a new OS- the experts could probably answer that one. Art in Silicon Valley allenpau@wellsfargo.com wrote: Another option is to put the Duo's in the dock, (does it have a db25 scsi connector?) connect it to the scsi port on the ppc, start the ppc then start the duo in the dock and install the OS in what is called "target disk mode". It basically means that the ppc looks at the duo in the dock like an external hdd. By the way, if your ppc is a 6100, then it is a first generation ppc and is non pci. It's nubus and there is no such thing at this time as usb for nubus, though strangly there is a guy who has developed a card for the Apple II that has a USB port and also an adapter to read complact flash cards. _______________________________________________ DuoList mailing list DuoList@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/duolist -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20071019/e0fd6080/attachment.html From cgunera at gmail.com Mon Oct 22 22:05:54 2007 From: cgunera at gmail.com (Carlos Gunera) Date: Mon Oct 22 22:06:13 2007 Subject: [DuoList] I need help... Message-ID: Hello All, I have a Powerbook Duo 2300c and I want to add ethernet capabilities. I am only aware of two options - the Asante EN/SC and the Newer Tech EtherDock. Where can I get one of these? If someone has one of these for sale, please let me know. I have the MiniDock, but it would be great if I could just add ethernet without having to add the MiniDock. What options are there in terms of internet browsers for these machines? Mine is running OS 8.5.1 Thanks, Carlos -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20071022/27970d73/attachment-0001.html From grizzlygiant1 at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 23 00:37:28 2007 From: grizzlygiant1 at sbcglobal.net (BOB No) Date: Tue Oct 23 00:37:03 2007 Subject: [DuoList] Re: Duos for Donation In-Reply-To: <3F431F08B1451E4DA01A752BAC272CE308C929@msgswbmnmsp10.wellsfargo.com> References: <3F431F08B1451E4DA01A752BAC272CE308C929@msgswbmnmsp10.wellsfargo.com> Message-ID: <869B31AB-1BFB-4D17-A7A0-32466F07F661@sbcglobal.net> On Oct 18, 2007, at 5:59 PM, wrote: > > > Rich Wrote: > > Thanks for the info. I found out that I was burning Mac OS extended > CD-Rs and my power mac will only read Mac OS CD's. I burned a Mac OS > C-R on Toast lite and the Power Mac read it fine. I have the power > mac > and the Duo connected via ethernet, but I still need to do a clean > install on the Duos. I haven't checked out the USB drive since the > nearest computer stores are Circuit City and Best Buy which are 40 > minutes away and I am not sure they would carry them. I have a OS > 8.0, > but how I can use it on the power mac to install on the duo? > > > Rich Hello Rich: I think there might be problems with trying to install from the PM to the Duos over ethernet. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try. I've only installed over SCSI from an installer. What I would do next would be: 1.) If you can mount the Duo hard drive on the PM desktop (using Ethernet), try to copy over your System folder to the Duo. Use only the extensions you absolutely need to enable Ethernet and OpenTransport and filesharing for this. Some extensions that are being used by the PM will not copy over. Restart with Extensions disabled (shift at start, until no extensions message), make copies of files that didn't copy over, rename them or compress them and try copying again. 2.) Remove the PPC only extensions and control panels if you don't need them (I don't remember which Duo you have). 3.) When you say that you have OS 8.0, is that on the PM? If not, then what functioning OS is on the PM? This is why top down posting is so necessary here, so that info like this is left on the page for quick and easy problem solving. This doesn't really sound like a difficult problem, it's just getting enough information together to suggest a viable solution. Grizzledgiant From rich at daniellefineart.com Tue Oct 23 10:19:50 2007 From: rich at daniellefineart.com (Rich Bussone) Date: Tue Oct 23 10:18:58 2007 Subject: [DuoList] Re: Duos for donation Message-ID: On Oct 18, 2007, at 5:59 PM, wrote: > > > Rich Wrote: > > Thanks for the info. I found out that I was burning Mac OS extended > CD-Rs and my power mac will only read Mac OS CD's. I burned a Mac OS > C-R on Toast lite and the Power Mac read it fine. I have the power > mac > and the Duo connected via ethernet, but I still need to do a clean > install on the Duos. I haven't checked out the USB drive since the > nearest computer stores are Circuit City and Best Buy which are 40 > minutes away and I am not sure they would carry them. I have a OS > 8.0, > but how I can use it on the power mac to install on the duo? > > > Rich > Hello Rich: I think there might be problems with trying to install from the PM to the Duos over ethernet. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try. I've only installed over SCSI from an installer. What I would do next would be: 1.) If you can mount the Duo hard drive on the PM desktop (using Ethernet), try to copy over your System folder to the Duo. Use only the extensions you absolutely need to enable Ethernet and OpenTransport and filesharing for this. Some extensions that are being used by the PM will not copy over. Restart with Extensions disabled (shift at start, until no extensions message), make copies of files that didn't copy over, rename them or compress them and try copying again. 2.) Remove the PPC only extensions and control panels if you don't need them (I don't remember which Duo you have). 3.) When you say that you have OS 8.0, is that on the PM? If not, then what functioning OS is on the PM? This is why top down posting is so necessary here, so that info like this is left on the page for quick and easy problem solving. This doesn't really sound like a difficult problem, it's just getting enough information together to suggest a viable solution. Grizzledgiant Thanks again I have system 8.0 on my power mac 6160AV and I have a System 8.0 disk I am trying to clean install on the duos in order to clear the hard drive so I can give them away. I was able to mount the disk on the duo desktop and I was finally able to install the system on the duo, but while I checked clean install, when it was done, the hard drive on the duo still has all the same info on it. Shouldn't a clean install erase the hard drive? Rich From mko at nt.net Tue Oct 23 13:21:48 2007 From: mko at nt.net (mko@nt.net) Date: Tue Oct 23 12:19:19 2007 Subject: [DuoList] Re: OT/ Intel-Classic In-Reply-To: <20071023050611.3B7431A3E361@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20071023050611.3B7431A3E361@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: Hello Duos! Thanks again for the help. You are my quantum logic garden. I bought a 15" Al-book from San Diego, the last machine before Intel, for $800 >sweet on ebay, hard drive scrubbed to DOD specs, then Tiger'd. Should be in soon (x), but meanwhile, I saw a Ti-book for sale as well, and this guy says it was the last dual-boot machine and is "considered by Apple experts to be the cream of the crop". Apparently my Al-book runs OS9 from within OSX, like any other app. My ? is: What's the advantage of dual-boot? Does OS9 stuff run better on the Ti-book? From grizzlygiant1 at sbcglobal.net Tue Oct 23 00:37:28 2007 From: grizzlygiant1 at sbcglobal.net (BOB No) Date: Wed Oct 24 17:39:11 2007 Subject: [DuoList] Re: Duos for Donation In-Reply-To: <3F431F08B1451E4DA01A752BAC272CE308C929@msgswbmnmsp10.wellsfargo.com> References: <3F431F08B1451E4DA01A752BAC272CE308C929@msgswbmnmsp10.wellsfargo.com> Message-ID: <869B31AB-1BFB-4D17-A7A0-32466F07F661@sbcglobal.net> On Oct 18, 2007, at 5:59 PM, wrote: > > > Rich Wrote: > > Thanks for the info. I found out that I was burning Mac OS extended > CD-Rs and my power mac will only read Mac OS CD's. I burned a Mac OS > C-R on Toast lite and the Power Mac read it fine. I have the power > mac > and the Duo connected via ethernet, but I still need to do a clean > install on the Duos. I haven't checked out the USB drive since the > nearest computer stores are Circuit City and Best Buy which are 40 > minutes away and I am not sure they would carry them. I have a OS > 8.0, > but how I can use it on the power mac to install on the duo? > > > Rich Hello Rich: I think there might be problems with trying to install from the PM to the Duos over ethernet. That doesn't mean you shouldn't try. I've only installed over SCSI from an installer. What I would do next would be: 1.) If you can mount the Duo hard drive on the PM desktop (using Ethernet), try to copy over your System folder to the Duo. Use only the extensions you absolutely need to enable Ethernet and OpenTransport and filesharing for this. Some extensions that are being used by the PM will not copy over. Restart with Extensions disabled (shift at start, until no extensions message), make copies of files that didn't copy over, rename them or compress them and try copying again. 2.) Remove the PPC only extensions and control panels if you don't need them (I don't remember which Duo you have). 3.) When you say that you have OS 8.0, is that on the PM? If not, then what functioning OS is on the PM? This is why top down posting is so necessary here, so that info like this is left on the page for quick and easy problem solving. This doesn't really sound like a difficult problem, it's just getting enough information together to suggest a viable solution. Grizzledgiant From turbodan95 at gmail.com Wed Oct 31 13:19:21 2007 From: turbodan95 at gmail.com (Dan Palka) Date: Wed Oct 31 13:19:52 2007 Subject: [DuoList] Where to find the Info-Mac Digest Archives In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <459D9EF4-CC81-4A5B-8A3C-ED8902380E81@gmail.com> Does anyone have or know of where I might be able to find archives in text format of the Info-Mac Digest? I know it used to exist somewhere. I have text files for versions 14 - 19 but nothing earlier. They would be in the format of infomacv13-xxx.txt and so on... Searching google for "infomacv13" gets only a few results and all of them are dead now. I believe it goes down to infomacv7, possibly even lower but I've found no reference to it. I've also found no reference to any version higher than 19. No infomacv20 or anything - did it die out after then (circa 2002?) Dan Palka system7today.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/duolist/attachments/20071031/5bc0be13/attachment.html From ftf at mac.com Wed Oct 31 20:01:59 2007 From: ftf at mac.com (Fabian Fang) Date: Wed Oct 31 20:02:10 2007 Subject: [DuoList] Where to find the Info-Mac Digest Archives In-Reply-To: <459D9EF4-CC81-4A5B-8A3C-ED8902380E81@gmail.com> References: <459D9EF4-CC81-4A5B-8A3C-ED8902380E81@gmail.com> Message-ID: <4AE071A0-061D-4943-8915-FF9E07322DCD@mac.com> On Oct 31, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Dan Palka wrote: > Does anyone have or know of where I might be able to find archives > in text format of the Info-Mac Digest? I know it used to exist > somewhere. I have text files for versions 14 - 19 but nothing > earlier. The Info-Mac Digest was mirrored in the Usenet group comp.sys.mac.digest from the very earliest days, and "comp.sys.mac.digest" is archived here: