[G4] G5 and photoshop

Fri Aug 8 09:34:00 PDT 2003

I don't deny that anyone could go and buy a G5 and have no problems.  I 
totally think that is possible but, the chances of getting a lemon are 
much higher with the first run of any machine.  My iPod for example is 
the first model they released.  The firewire port is poorly soldiered 
to the main board inside it (a design flaw that Apple refused to admit 
was a flaw, even though it happened to a high percentage of 1st series 
iPod owners).  One of the joints cracked and I could no longer connect 
it to my G4 or charge it.  This happened within 3 month warranty time 
of owning it and Apple made me go through hell to get a replacement 
(cuz they don't repair them).  They tried to tell me some BS about how 
I had to pay another $250 for a replacement.  They sold that unit up to 
6 months ago and already there is 0 support for it now.

  I know the temptation to be the first kid on your block with an über 
computer is hard to resist but I think most people would be much 
happier with a unit that has been redesigned after the world has put 
the first model through every possible situation.  Otherwise if you 
don't mind spending lotsa cash and being a guinee pig, More Power to ya!

On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 12:08 PM, David DelMonte wrote:

> On the other hand, I have bought new PBs - first the 500mhz rev 1, and 
> now the AlPB. They both worked perfectly for me, despite being dragged 
> into difficult and dusty locations.
>
> Caution is always a good idea - I didn't buy either until I read 
> reviews of actual use.
>
> David
>
> On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 06:54 PM, Snoke Jay S NPRI wrote:
>
>> I second Scott's argument - after about 25 years experience in buying 
>> and using various computers and operating systems, I never buy the 
>> first model or version.  There are always bugs to be worked out...
>> Jay Snoke
>>
>>
>>> as a former Apple employee, I would never ever purchase the first
>>> series of any of their computers.  There are always bugs and you
>>> usually end up kicking yourself by the time the second model is
>>> released.  When the very first G4's were released 2 of my friends
>>> bought them and both had many many problems with them.  When the 
>>> first
>>> dual 1's were released we ended up repairing close to 50% of the 
>>> units
>>> we sold.
>>>
>>> Just my infinite amount of dollars +1 to what ever you say, black
>>> magic, no erasies.
>>>
>>> On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 11:43 AM, Kunga wrote:
>>>
>>>> Matt's 2¢ isn't worth 2¢. He completely misunderstands and
>>>> underestimates the value of the 1 GHz bus and the fact that the OS
>>>> will never need to be 64-bit for applications to be 64-bit right 
>>>> away
>>>> with trivial recompilations that Apple has made simple for 
>>>> developers
>>>> to deliver quickly. 64-bit Photoshop will be delivered as a free
>>>> update later this month before most G5 buyers even get their > 
>>>> computers.
>>>>
>>>> Apple is implementing a very clever and INSTANT migration path to
>>>> 64-bit computing that will deliver major 32-bit AND 64- bit
>>>> performance punch immediately with no need for a 64-bit OS EVER.
>>>>
>>>> Apple has done all the BETA testing on the G5 PowerMac. Buyers will 
>>>> be
>>>> getting post beta product immediately.
>>>>
>>>> Just my ten dollars.
>>>>
>>>> k
>>>>
>>>> On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 07:34  AM, sr ferenczy wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> in order to have backwards support of current 32 bit apps (with no
>>>>> noticeable slowdown) the OS cant be fully 64 bit. this really 
>>>>> doesnt
>>>>> affect performance, only compatibility.
>>>>>
>>>>> as far as 64 bit apps, yes, PS will probably show huge gains in
>>>>> performance from such a change, but this doesnt discount the 
>>>>> overall
>>>>> ability of the G5s (though we will have to wait for real world 
>>>>> tests)
>>>>> the 1ghz bus alone makes these machines worth the money. sure, at
>>>>> this point the G5 might not be that much faster mhz for mhz 
>>>>> compared
>>>>> to the G4s, but it gets information fed to it over 5 times faster!!
>>>>> we now get to enjoy the true power of the processor, not the 
>>>>> limiting
>>>>> of a slow ass bus. (remember too, moto still is unsure as to 
>>>>> whether
>>>>> the next incarnation of the G4 will even be able to reach a 200 mhz
>>>>> system bus, let alone a 1 ghz.)
>>>>>
>>>>>>  I would wait until there are native applications.
>>>>>
>>>>> all 32 bit apps are native, wait no longer.
>>>>>
>>>>> sandor
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 10:23  AM, Matthew Wensley wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> IMHO, there is no rush to upgrade to G5 for 2 reasons:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) The OS is not fully 64 bit yet
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) no 64 bit programmes yet.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If I was working the Adobe programmes to make a living, I would 
>>>>>> wait
>>>>>> until there are native applications.
>>>>>> Let someone else beta the new "iron".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My 2 cents
>>>> kunga10 (AIM)
>>>> kunga47 (Yahoo Messenger with Cross-Platform dial-up Video sans 
>>>> audio
>>>> on Macs)
>>>
>>>
>>
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