have you tired to empty the trash from the terminal? su (type root password - may or may not need this command) cd .Trash (from your home directory) ls -la (will show all files and permissions) rm * (delete all files in folder) you may have to su if the file is owned by root, to do that enable root password from the security menu in netinfo manager. to remove a whole folder with a file that won't go away, type rm -R name_of_folder be careful using the -R on rm!!!! if you use it in the wrong place you may remove directories you dont wish to remove!! also, if any file names have spaces, be sure to use backslashes for example: file with spaces 1 should be written as file\ with\ spaces\ 1 good luck! ---- Windows has crashed. I am the Blue Screen of Death. No one hears your screams.