[G4] Programming for Mac OS X

[David DelMonte]

Thanks again everyone.. Brooks, sounds like good advice..

David

On Oct 9, 2003, at 3:12 PM, Brooks Graham wrote:

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> Hopefully I'm not giving too much away, but Xcode *is* different enough
> so that if you followed the "click this button then click that button"
> instructions in a tutorial written for the prior versions, you'd have
> some trouble.  Changes to the GUI layout tool, Interface Builder,
> aren't as extreme.
>
> [totally lame analogy]  Think of Xcode as being a word processor.
> Apple has all but replaced the prior word processor with a new one with
> tons of cool new features.  The text you type in is the same, it's just
> done in a different word processor.
>
> The good news is that there haven't been any radical changes to the
> Cocoa environment itself.  The frameworks have been extended a bit, and
> in some exciting ways, but it's totally backwards compatible with
> code/projects from the prior releases.
>
> I'm not sure when Hillegass will update his book for Panther/Xcode.
> Since the dev tools are tied to specific OS X releases (i.e. you can't
> load Xcode on Jaguar or load the Jaguar tools on Panther (I think)) one
> could set up a dual-boot environment with an external firewire drive
> with Jaguar on it if you wanted to do your learning on Jaguar but use
> Panther for "normal" usage.  Or just buy another G5!   (which is how I
> work.  I have a dedicated Mac to do development on - keeps things
> cleaner that way)
>
> Since David asked for opinions, mine would be to learn Cocoa on Jaguar
> and once you feel comfortable move up to Panther/Xcode.  Today, there
> are significantly more and better resources available for Jaguar than
> Panther.  That, coupled with the fact that it's highly unlikely that
> you'd need any of the new stuff anyways, makes Jaguar the better
> learning environment.  IMHO.  A year from now, it'll be different.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Go learn Cocoa!  It rocks!
>
> - -bdg
>
>
> On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 10:58  AM, Daniel Brieck wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> The programming tools are probably not significantly different in
>> panther when compared to Jaguar's. However, you should go with the
>> most current tools and wait for Pathers' xcode. Then the
>> programming/methods  that you learn will be "more" valid for the next
>> year and a half. That is one thing bad about programming is that you
>> have to learn the basics and then re apply that to changing software
>> and environments.  Very little stays exactly the same for any extended
>> amounts of time when it comes to computer programming. So go with the
>> current stuff learn it will and then keep adapting to what is next....
>>
>> Dan Brieck Jr.
>>
>> On Thursday, October 9, 2003, at 12:51  PM, David DelMonte wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks everyone for answering my question. Next one: should I buy the
>>> current book edition or wait for Panther versions? Are the
>>> programming tools from Apple going to be significantly different in
>>> 10.3?
>>>
>>> Thanks again
>>>
>>> David
>>>
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>
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