[G4] defraging a Mac

Shaene shaene at wirefire.com
Sat Apr 3 13:18:12 PST 2004


It would seem that Alex is looking for someone to take some hidden 
frustrations out on.  It's sad that people like him have to pop in on 
occasion to spray venom simply because they twist words around to suit 
their threshold of justification to put people down.

Alex, I'm stating facts, not going out of my way to bash Windows.  
Anyone who's used the various Windows OS's for a while know that 
fragmentation gets to be an issue within a week of use.  I've been a 
sys admin at a large ISP where we had over a dozen different OS's 
around, so I know what I'm talking about when I say that the 
filesystems Windows uses are prone to fragmentation, whereas many 
others are not.  Furthermore, I'm speaking from experience regarding 
the fragmentation tolerance of a Mac.  Perhaps you should spend a day 
thinking about an email that makes you want to whip out the torches; 
chances are that a good bit of pondering will make you realize that 
most people who take part in this list know more and have better 
intentions than you give them credit for.  Don't turn a discussion 
about something most of us love -- Macs -- into a battle.


Shaene




On Apr 3, 2004, at 10:40 AM, Alex wrote:

>
> On Friday, Apr 2, 2004, at 21:34 Canada/Eastern, Shaene wrote:
>
>> Bottom line is that there's not even a third of the importance here 
>> as there is on a Windows system, which brought "defrag" into 
>> mainstream usage, and into the front of many's minds regarding what 
>> they must do to keep their computing going along nicely.  Once again, 
>> on a Mac, you just don't have to worry about keeping several things 
>> in line.  Unless  you really think your disk is fragmented greatly 
>> and using a defrag is a must, don't worry about it.
>
> Bashing Windows on a Mac list requires just about as much guts as 
> bashing George W. Bush to a meeting of the Al-Tikriti. Perhaps those 
> who have the grit, knowledge, and appetite should take this kind of 
> "mine is bigger than yours" to a PC list or group, where there they 
> can find plenty of like-minded fellows eager to give them a run for 
> their money.
>
> As to disk fragmentation, it predates both Mac and Win. It's 
> essentially a file system issue, and HFS (the earlier Mac OS file 
> system) is actually more, not less, prone to it than comparable 
> systems. It's a side-effect of HFS's unique two-fork file 
> architecture, a sophisticated engineering feature which, 
> unfortunately, has not been adopted by other file systems. 
> (Incidentally, the Apple reference mentioned earlier in this thread 
> alludes to this issue -- for those who can read). HFS+, the current 
> native Mac OS, is even slightly more susceptible than HFS to 
> fragmentation, again, a side-effect of its more sophisticated 
> management of allocation blocks.
>
> However, for other reasons (summarized in the Apple KB article ID 
> 25668) fragmentation is less of an issue nowadays than it was five or 
> ten years ago. Some of those reasons apply to other computer platforms 
> as well.
>
> f
>
>
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