[G4] 3rd HD - - Tired subject, sorry...

[James Asherman]

On Aug 8, 2006, at 1:46 PM, Slip Kid wrote:

>
> First, my posts bounce back (and some eventually appear) - - Why, I  
> do not know?
>
> My rig:
>
> Power Mac G4 [GE]
> PowerMac3,3
> CPU  PowerPC G4  (2.9)
> 400 MHz
> L2 Cache (per CPU):	1 MB
> 512 MB
> Bus 100 MHz
> Boot ROM Version:	4.2.8f1
> OSX 10.4.7
> Disc 0 - - 80Gig
> Disc 1 - - 120Gig
> (I can boot from either disc, my 'plan' only involves using a 3rd  
> disc for storage)
>
> Anyway, I realize the 3rd disc has been addressed here and on Usenet.
> Sorry, I'm unable to get a firm "yes/no" regarding if I can use the  
> Zip IDE for an HD.
> [Agan, it will not be used to boot or to execute apps - -  only for  
> xtra storage.]
>

Yes and can boot

> (It's also confusing that the 'bottom' bay will accept a skuz..and  
> not an ATA?
> That is, my manual shows a 3rd HD in the HD bay - - Why not a 3rd  
> ATA, there?...
>
> So, near as I can tell it is 'possible' to plant an HD on the Zip  
> cable? (Just that, not a new IDE fix...simply hook the 3rd HD to  
> the Zip cable (And no, I have yet to use the Zip...I won't miss it)

should be

>
> But, the drawbacks [?]:
> 1. "It isn't good" because of
> 	A. Not any 'place' to 'position the HD safely'. (I read one guy  
> taped it in?!)

Just lay it in there i

> 	B. It may not receive proper cooling (but two drives, stacked on  
> the bottom are staying 'cool'?).
> 	
> >---->C. The clincher?
> 	The speed of the Zip/Rom channels ?
> 	I. Is it true the Zip won't run an ATA at 'ATA speed'?
> My specs show the protocol to be 'ATAPI' - - Is that because I have  
> the Rom and Zip 'attached'?
> 	II. Why would the Zip (& Rom) channels be slower (by design/ 
> default)?  	(Disclaimer: I come from the M$ world where a 4 channel  
> IDE doesn't (AFAIK) discriminate between primary & secondary IDE's.
> I can run DMA w/a HD or optical on *any* IDE channel on a winbox)
>
> ====
> Is the above true?
> Is it a deal breaker (prohibiting a 3rd HD on the Zip channel?)  
> from the speed/placement/cooling limits?
>
> Or:
> Is the 'cooling/placement/speed' not true/overblown?
>
> ===
>
> # Yes, I can pick up some space by replacing drive 0 w/a larger drive.
> # Yes, I can go 'external' (My DVD burner is external and it's not  
> only doing fine, I can 'share' it w/other machines).
>
> But hey!...I have a spare drive (or 3), I'd rather use it (postpone  
> spending $'s for storage if a spare will fill my need) on a channel  
> which is not being used.
> Fair, eh?
>
> Sorry to be redundant (boring) but I've only seen the issue end in  
> debate.
> There must be a solid "yes/no" & I haven't seen a convincing "No",  
> with plenty of reasons why hitching a 3rd HD on the Zip cable is  
> just fine.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Michael
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