From: "chip puller" > > pushing the safety off on a Remington 870 shotgun with > double OO buckshot aimed in the general direction of > the Mac comes to mind.. and pulling the trigger... OOOOOOOOOOOooooooo ... that's cruel and unusual punishment, donchathink? How 'bout changing the motherboard. Or isn't that done any more? I remember when stuff like that wasn't unheard of. Come to think of it, the Apple logo on the side door is a nice target :-) Merry Christmas! - Peter