From tom578 at rochester.rr.com Mon Apr 2 06:51:27 2007 From: tom578 at rochester.rr.com (Thomas J. Fobia) Date: Fri Apr 6 08:19:39 2007 Subject: [G4] Technical term needed for problem! Message-ID: <46110A5F.9090806@rochester.rr.com> Hello All, I am trying to find the technical term (if one exists) for the "program quit" malfunction. This is when Im using a program (any) and all of a sudden it winks out (the program) and I find myself on the desktop without a warning (like the program was never booted up)! Ive just tried to type this email message in netscape mail and netscape quit on me so now im using textedit and I will cut an paste to send it off!. Im using a Mac G4 with 1.75Gb of Ram (all 2-2-2 speed). I have rebooted, zapped the p-ram, and used applejack. Nothing seems to cure the problem. Im using a "Powerlogix" upgrade 1.6Ghz processor (OSX.4.9). Anyone got a clue as to what this problem is and how it might be cured? Thanks. Tom From dancurr at frontiernet.net Mon Apr 2 18:29:59 2007 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Fri Apr 6 08:37:20 2007 Subject: [G4] Hello Message-ID: <4611AE17.1010908@frontiernet.net> Is anyone there?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070402/3a16ef18/attachment.html From dancurr at frontiernet.net Thu Apr 5 05:36:02 2007 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Fri Apr 6 09:32:54 2007 Subject: [G4] Is this list still working?? Message-ID: <4614ED32.3040906@frontiernet.net> The last time that I received anything from anyone on this list was on 3-12-07. I have replied to several items since then but none were ever were posted. What is going on?? Dan A. Currie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070405/a3706e77/attachment.html From dancurr at frontiernet.net Thu Apr 5 07:45:40 2007 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Fri Apr 6 09:38:11 2007 Subject: [G4] FrankenMac? Message-ID: <46150B94.5040600@frontiernet.net> Hello All? I am working on my daughters newly created FrankenMac ... Beige G3/333 with a G4 PPC processor running as a G4/333 using Classic OS 9.2.2 and OS 10.2. Both OS's run nicely and I can get online with Netscape 4.8 in OS 9 ... but in OS 10 I can not get it to recognize the PCI card. Suggestions!! Dan A. Currie BTW if any of you belong to the G4 list ... I have not heard from them in almost 3 weeks and my emails go unanswered. HELP!! -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070405/561921d8/attachment.html From kastegir at mac.com Thu Apr 5 08:00:23 2007 From: kastegir at mac.com (Hal) Date: Fri Apr 6 09:38:33 2007 Subject: [G4] List still working? Message-ID: <34D36D69-6EFF-4C08-9CBA-5CE5BB668F15@mac.com> Haven't seen anything from the list in a couple weeks. Is it still up? -Hal From kastegir at mac.com Thu Apr 5 15:28:21 2007 From: kastegir at mac.com (Hal) Date: Fri Apr 6 09:56:54 2007 Subject: [G4] test mesage Message-ID: <23969B69-BE0D-413F-BB66-77E6FB3D5FF4@mac.com> Is this list still active? From jperdman at earthlink.net Thu Apr 5 19:42:50 2007 From: jperdman at earthlink.net (John Erdman) Date: Fri Apr 6 10:04:55 2007 Subject: [G4] test message Message-ID: test message From dancurr at frontiernet.net Thu Apr 5 19:51:27 2007 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Fri Apr 6 10:05:15 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: Where is the G4 List. In-Reply-To: References: <46151891.1070402@frontiernet.net> <35AA5159-2104-410C-9808-B0545628E8AD@mac.com> Message-ID: <4615B5AF.3050809@frontiernet.net> Harry Freeman wrote: > Greetings ( + )!( + ) > > The reason that you guys are not getting anything posted is that you > are clicking on either Reply: or Reply All; and those of us that are > part of the address list are receiving your email. > > In the past I've just been deleting your eMails, however I decided to > reply to you this time. > > If you want to post please go to: > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 and click on > the > > Using G4 > To post a message to all the list members, send email to > g4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com. > --- Hi Harry, I followed your instructions, even re-subscribed to the list but have yet to receive any postings from the list. I am even sending this one to the address you gave to see if it makes it. Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070405/06f54470/attachment.html From brettcaven at gmail.com Thu Apr 5 20:46:21 2007 From: brettcaven at gmail.com (Brett Caven) Date: Fri Apr 6 10:07:31 2007 Subject: [G4] How to tell if DVD has been burned? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <944d273d0704052046g2670a27auf5e2e3873aa234b7@mail.gmail.com> Try looking at the bottom of the disk. If there's a section that looks different from the rest (compare with successful DVDs). If so, it's trash. (This method isn't always accurate). On 3/13/07, Mark J. Miller wrote: > > I'm experimenting burning DVD-R disks on an external firewire drive. > I'm having problems with the burning at the moment; the burn process > fails. So, what I'd like to know has the DVD actually been burned? Is > there a way to tell if the burn process actually started to write on > the DVD so I know I can toss the DVD after a failure? > > Thanks, > Mark. > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > -- -Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070406/ec8fb843/attachment-0001.html From keith_w at dslextreme.com Fri Apr 6 01:27:19 2007 From: keith_w at dslextreme.com (keith_w) Date: Fri Apr 6 11:14:42 2007 Subject: [G4] Where has everyon gone... In-Reply-To: <876134.44222.qm@web81412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <876134.44222.qm@web81412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46160467.60408@dslextreme.com> Richard Ramsowr wrote: > Yo > > Is it me or has everyone dropped of the globe? > > I haven't had a single eMail from the group sence > March 11th... > > What gives/ > > therepguy > Houston > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 Seems to be a problem with other lists served by this listserver, too, such as the "x4u" list. Latest message from them was dated 3-15-07. I've CC'd a copy of this message to Let's see if that gets thru. keith whaley From keith_w at dslextreme.com Fri Apr 6 01:35:27 2007 From: keith_w at dslextreme.com (keith_w) Date: Fri Apr 6 11:16:42 2007 Subject: [G4] Where has everyon gone... In-Reply-To: <46160467.60408@dslextreme.com> References: <876134.44222.qm@web81412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <46160467.60408@dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <4616064F.5080405@dslextreme.com> keith_w wrote: > Richard Ramsowr wrote: >> Yo >> >> Is it me or has everyone dropped of the globe? >> >> I haven't had a single eMail from the group sence >> March 11th... >> >> What gives/ >> >> therepguy >> Houston >> _______________________________________________ >> G4 mailing list >> G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 Hi Richard, > Seems to be a problem with other lists served by this listserver, too, > such as the "x4u" list. Latest message from them was dated 3-15-07. > > I've CC'd a copy of this message to > > Let's see if that gets thru. > > keith whaley Furthermore, although the archives list 90 messages in the group for the month of March, up to Mar. 20th, they don't show any messages after that date. keith whaley From CodeMan at cox.net Fri Apr 6 02:44:02 2007 From: CodeMan at cox.net (Jack Dolby) Date: Fri Apr 6 11:33:03 2007 Subject: [G4] Ansi C/C++ compiler needed 10.3.9 In-Reply-To: <615515.99207.qm@web37315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: You can join the Apple Developer Connection (free membership, some info required) and download the Apple Xcode tools, which include gnu. jack On 3/16/07 8:36 PM, "Eric Hall" wrote: > Is there such a thing as gnu c for OS X 10.3.9? If anyone knows, could they > please let me know? I need to develop a C program and would prefer my Mac to > the Sun Solaris box I have here. > > Thank you, > > Eric > > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -- Ask me about the VB Master class at -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070406/2c98980e/attachment.html From Badhawk at comcast.net Fri Apr 6 03:12:39 2007 From: Badhawk at comcast.net (Warren Hemple) Date: Fri Apr 6 11:39:38 2007 Subject: [G4] I need help Message-ID: Welcome Back I need help this is the first time i OXS has stumped me. G4 533 512 meg Ram digital audio After 10.3.9 I get this when I try to log on to myspace.com This site work from my G4 I book 10.4.9 Safari and Fire-fox Server Error in '/' Application. Runtime Error Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine. Details: To enable the details of this specific error message to be viewable on remote machines, please create a tag within a "web.config" configuration file located in the root directory of the current web application. This tag should then have its "mode" attribute set to "Off". Notes: The current error page you are seeing can be replaced by a custom error page by modifying the "defaultRedirect" attribute of the application's configuration tag to point to a custom error page URL. From rsmykla at verizon.net Fri Apr 6 03:24:58 2007 From: rsmykla at verizon.net (Rick Smykla) Date: Fri Apr 6 11:42:29 2007 Subject: [G4] Video Problem In-Reply-To: <649756.89422.qm@web83403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <649756.89422.qm@web83403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7A980B89-0694-4428-BD9C-15FEDD3EE12A@verizon.net> Try Command-Option-Control-8 Then take a look at the Universal Access Preference Pane. Rick On Mar 24, 2007, at 2:53 PM, kr parks wrote: > Hello: > > I am having a very strange problem with my G4 (733 > Digtal). It is displaying only black and white images, > pictures look as though they are film negatives. This > only occurs when I boot from a certain drive. When > using another drive everything appears fine. I have > 10.2.8 installed on both bootable drives. I have tried > to run disk utility but it seems to think that the > drive is in use when I try to check it, even though I > have booted from the other and started no programs. It > started all of a sudden, not after any changes were > made. Does anyone know what is going on? > > Thanks, > Kevin > _______________________________________________ From rich at richardklein.org Fri Apr 6 03:28:20 2007 From: rich at richardklein.org (Richard Klein) Date: Fri Apr 6 11:43:32 2007 Subject: [G4] desktop print 2.0 software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <461620C4.4090505@richardklein.org> Win werner wrote: > > > I run a G4 and a photosmart 7150 printer > > I have a very nice address book program (older) which I would like to use > > I have photosmart 7150 in the chooser - printer will not print my > address program > > " program is not apple event aware" install Desktop Print 2.0 Software - > > I have searched on older apple download sites - am not able to locate > this software - > > can anyone assist? thank you I'm afraid I don't know the answer either way, but it would probably be helpful to know what OS version you're using (OS9, OSX 10.2, OSX 10.4, etc.). -- Rich From g4-lisz at tonarchiv.ch Fri Apr 6 03:42:31 2007 From: g4-lisz at tonarchiv.ch (Till Wimmer) Date: Fri Apr 6 11:46:30 2007 Subject: [G4] Problems installing OS 9 In-Reply-To: <559116.55517.qm@web58709.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <559116.55517.qm@web58709.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46162417.6020609@tonarchiv.ch> I once had a quite similar porblem, but the Os9 CD only hanged when i started the disk utilities. In the end it was a corrupted partition table on my hard disk. Actually it was a bug in disk doctor - there was an endless loop over partition entries... I could fix my problem using a linux for ppc CD. If you are not familiar with linux i suggest you try to boot your mac with another hard disk. good luck Till marco santos wrote: > Hello, > > I hope somebody will be able to help me on thi matter > because I have been struggling over this for two > weeks. > > My profile: > > Powermac G4 AGP Graphic 450 Mhz (Sawtooth) > Running OS X Panther 10.3.9 > > I bought an processor upgrade for my computer @ OWC. > It's a Dual 1.0 Ghz. When I started the process to > install it, I got a message saying I had to upgrade my > firmware (now I don't remember to what version). > > So, I borrowed an OS 9 original disk from a friend of > mine that owns an old imac, but I couldn't install it > on my computer. After I boot from the disk and after > OS 9 starts and loads all the drivers BUMMM , I don't > know what happens, the thing is the computer just > stops (not frozen). I can move the mouse, but I can't > go anywhere, there is no option on the screen for me > to access. > > I heard that I have to use the original disk for > Powermac G4, so I got one from another friend that > owns a Quicksilver (G4 750 Mhz) and same thing > happened. > > Now I don't know what to do. I went to Apple Store and > support guys told they don't sell it any more. > > And, so far I couldn't install the processor upgrade I > bought, it's frustrating! > > Need help...Please! > > > > > Thank you > > and may God bless you > > Marco Antonio dos Santos > > > Thank you > > and may God bless you > > Marco Antonio dos Santos > > > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From g4-lisz at tonarchiv.ch Fri Apr 6 03:43:52 2007 From: g4-lisz at tonarchiv.ch (Till Wimmer) Date: Fri Apr 6 11:46:45 2007 Subject: [G4] Test In-Reply-To: <20070325131037699276.8a91359b@earthlink.net> References: <20070325131037699276.8a91359b@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <46162468.8020301@tonarchiv.ch> In my mailbox your message is dated from March 25th... S. Kennedy wrote: > I haven't received anything since 3/12 so I suspect something is wrong. This is just a test. > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Fri Apr 6 04:54:27 2007 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:04:29 2007 Subject: [G4] Hello List In-Reply-To: <746543FD-607F-4A40-A915-59357C4E8416@pacbell.net> References: <20070312032954.D05F5A3CAC7@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <45F5613C.6070704@JacqCAD.com> <746543FD-607F-4A40-A915-59357C4E8416@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <8432688A-CC14-4CDB-9A9A-C7198979562A@pandora.be> It's coming back now. Paul Moortgat On 24 Mar 2007, at 02:05, B G wrote: > 2 weeks no postings is the sever down > > 3/23/06 6:00 PM PDT > > > Brian > > G4 gigE 1.0 GHz Powerlogix, 1 GB RAM > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From ffarwell at cox.net Fri Apr 6 05:10:17 2007 From: ffarwell at cox.net (FC Farwell) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:08:09 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: How to tell if DVD has been burned? In-Reply-To: <20070406101350.2CD54ABA7F6@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070406101350.2CD54ABA7F6@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <5E81D3CD-F58B-470D-8836-2E29082CD67A@cox.net> > > 1. How to tell if DVD has been burned? (Mark J. Miller) > > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2007 > From: "Mark J. Miller" > Subject: [G4] How to tell if DVD has been burned? > > I'm experimenting burning DVD-R disks on an external firewire drive. > I'm having problems with the burning at the moment; the burn process > fails. So, what I'd like to know has the DVD actually been burned? Is > there a way to tell if the burn process actually started to write on > the DVD so I know I can toss the DVD after a failure? > > Thanks, > Mark. If your using toast it will say the disk cannot be written to, please put in a blank disk (or something similar). F.C. Farwell From dancurr at frontiernet.net Fri Apr 6 05:34:51 2007 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:13:26 2007 Subject: [G4] G4 - Second cd /dvd drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46163E6B.9080007@frontiernet.net> RMATec@aol.com wrote: > Hello, > > I just bought a G4 800mhz. It comes with a cd that reads and > writes but does not read dvds. It uses the second front slot. The top > front slot appears empty. Sounds familiar. > > Is it possible to add another internal cd/dvd reader in the top > slot or is this one simply for show and must I buy an external drive. I have a Phillips CDD5301 in the top slot and a Pioneer DVD-RW DVR-107D in the bottom slot of my dual 1.25 MDD. The only problem is remembering which one is activated by the EJECT button. HTH, Dan Currie > > Thank you, > > Richard M. Abaid > > > ************************************** > AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free > from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >G4 mailing list >G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070406/e779ab20/attachment.html From dancurr at frontiernet.net Fri Apr 6 05:39:13 2007 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:14:26 2007 Subject: [G4] How to tell if DVD has been burned? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <46163F71.1040204@frontiernet.net> Mark J. Miller wrote: > I'm experimenting burning DVD-R disks on an external firewire drive. > I'm having problems with the burning at the moment; the burn process > fails. So, what I'd like to know has the DVD actually been burned? Is > there a way to tell if the burn process actually started to write on > the DVD so I know I can toss the DVD after a failure? I have the same problem, got a stack of CD / DVD coasters on my desk ... finally decided to just try one in a CD / DVD player and check them that way. A little time consuming but a welcome break. HTH Dan > > Thanks, > Mark. > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 6 06:09:09 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:21:50 2007 Subject: [G4] Hello List In-Reply-To: <746543FD-607F-4A40-A915-59357C4E8416@pacbell.net> Message-ID: <158932.98150.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Must have been yours is the first post I've seen in ages... --- B G wrote: > 2 weeks no postings is the sever down > > 3/23/06 6:00 PM PDT > > > Brian > > G4 gigE 1.0 GHz Powerlogix, 1 GB RAM > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 6 06:17:41 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:23:48 2007 Subject: [G4] Video Problem In-Reply-To: <649756.89422.qm@web83403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <215132.19078.qm@web81409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Sounds like your monitor died - it time to get a replacement or upgrade - in time all CRT's die! Sorry Rich Houston --- kr parks wrote: > Hello: > > I am having a very strange problem with my G4 (733 > Digtal). It is displaying only black and white > images, > pictures look as though they are film negatives. > This > only occurs when I boot from a certain drive. When > using another drive everything appears fine. I have > 10.2.8 installed on both bootable drives. I have > tried > to run disk utility but it seems to think that the > drive is in use when I try to check it, even though > I > have booted from the other and started no programs. > It > started all of a sudden, not after any changes were > made. Does anyone know what is going on? > > Thanks, > Kevin > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 6 06:23:53 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:25:00 2007 Subject: [G4] Issues with my lucky find on saint patricks day. In-Reply-To: <20070318182928.91815.qmail@web52803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <527336.4222.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> The old 21" monitorys offen died young - hook up a different monitor and see what happens. I had three (3) of those 21" Mult-scans go bad in a period of 6 months - talk about been pissed! Anyway the old girl may be old but I wouldn't give up on here just yet! Rich Houston --- Brandon Sternburg wrote: > > I found one of those dusty old g4 gems lying in > someones basement. it's a family number M5183 g4 > sawtooth. it is quite the beefy system already with > all the ram slots full, two hard drives, a dvd > writer > and what appears to potentially be a third party G4 > upgrade. (maybe 1ghz) I wish i knew more but my > issue > is that it is not giving signal to the monitor!! > > The machine starts up with a green light in > front(not > sure if this is the average color) it makes the > start > up tone and it sounds as it it's running perfectly. > But for some reason the video is not making it to > the > monitor (which stinks because a massive 21' studio > display came with this thing.) I have also noticed > there is no power making it to the keyboard and > mouse > either until sometimes after startup which means i > can't zap the pram or do any other keyboard combos > to > mess with it. > > What i've done so far was to repace the video card > with a newer model ati agp but no help. I've hit the > internal NVram button and also no change still > cannot > power the mouse and keyboard ut strangely the power > button does start it up but after the tone > everything > goes lame. > > anyone have any suggestions?!? > > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! > Answers users. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 6 07:00:49 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:32:28 2007 Subject: [G4] Messenger? In-Reply-To: <460DB4C2.1060803@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <733478.46241.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dan To start with there's iChat which comes with every Mac and is feature rich when it comes to PC solutions. After that there is something called "Adium" followed by "Fire" which I used a lot till they stopped offering upgrades and ended development. Currently I'm moving over to "Adium" All are openminded when it come to frends with PC. You can find it by googling the name and I think she will like both Adium and iChat. By the way both are freeware, so your not going to break the bank or anything like that. So Dan when are switching over to a Mac? Rick therepguy Houston --- Dan A Currie wrote: > Hello ALL, > > My wife has a G4 iBook running Tiger. All her > friends are using PC's > and Yahoo Chat to talk. Is there a comparable / > compatible software > option for her Mac?? > > TIA, > > Dan > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From dancurr at frontiernet.net Fri Apr 6 07:29:36 2007 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:38:39 2007 Subject: [G4] Issues with my lucky find on saint patricks day. In-Reply-To: <20070318182928.91815.qmail@web52803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20070318182928.91815.qmail@web52803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <46165950.904@frontiernet.net> Brandon Sternburg wrote: >I found one of those dusty old g4 gems lying in >someones basement. it's a family number M5183 g4 >sawtooth. it is quite the beefy system already with >all the ram slots full, two hard drives, a dvd writer >and what appears to potentially be a third party G4 >upgrade. (maybe 1ghz) I wish i knew more but my issue >is that it is not giving signal to the monitor!! > >The machine starts up with a green light in front(not >sure if this is the average color) it makes the start >up tone and it sounds as it it's running perfectly. >But for some reason the video is not making it to the >monitor (which stinks because a massive 21' studio >display came with this thing.) I have also noticed >there is no power making it to the keyboard and mouse >either until sometimes after startup which means i >can't zap the pram or do any other keyboard combos to >mess with it. > >What i've done so far was to repace the video card >with a newer model ati agp but no help. I've hit the >internal NVram button and also no change still cannot >power the mouse and keyboard ut strangely the power >button does start it up but after the tone everything >goes lame. > >anyone have any suggestions?!? > Had a similar problem with my daughters Beige G3+, It would start from the keyboard, bong would sound then nothing on the screen. It was a bit tedious but I unplugged and reseated the HD cables from the drives and MB and I reseated ALL of the RAM and CD / DVD / Iomega drives and pressed the CUDA for 15 seconds and then it restarted fine. I then restarted again with Norton in and ran Disk Doctor and Speed Disk and now no problems ... other than I can NOT get it to connect to the net in OS X!!!!@#%^UY$^&$##^&^% HTH and You are welcome, Dan Currie From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Fri Apr 6 07:30:22 2007 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:38:56 2007 Subject: [G4] DVD-R camcorder footage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Did they finalized the DVD? A friend of mine didn't do and he couldn't play the video at home. Paul Moortgat On 28 Mar 2007, at 06:54, les s wrote: > Hi, > My daughter and her classmates shot a school project on a Sony > camcorder which records to DVD-R (mini). I was asked to edit the > project. However when I loaded the DVD in my G4 Sawtooth with > Superdrive, the DVD-r was not recognised. I have Final Cut Pro2 and > OS9 as well as OSX 10.3.9 and imovie. But first, I have to import > the footage into either one of these apps. Any ideas? > Cheere, Les > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From paul.moortgat at pandora.be Fri Apr 6 07:31:50 2007 From: paul.moortgat at pandora.be (Paul Moortgat) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:39:17 2007 Subject: [G4] Talking? In-Reply-To: <460D7158.10406@frontiernet.net> References: <460D7158.10406@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <1867C9C2-9084-4DE8-9661-452C709F9B0E@pandora.be> Skype. Paul Moortgat On 30 Mar 2007, at 22:21, Dan A Currie wrote: > Hello ALL, > > My wife has a G4 iBook running Tiger. All her friends are using > PC's and Yahoo Chat to talk. Is there a comparable / compatible > software option for her Mac?? > > TIA, > > Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070406/fae0bd51/attachment-0001.html From kastegir at mac.com Fri Apr 6 07:40:38 2007 From: kastegir at mac.com (Hal) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:41:18 2007 Subject: [G4] G3 / G4 ? In-Reply-To: <45FDDFF9.5020707@frontiernet.net> References: <45FDDFF9.5020707@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <381B103A-065B-442B-AE0A-3077111C3CDF@mac.com> Dan, Congrats on getting G4 ZIF for your beige tower. The reason you're seeing the chip running at 333 is probably that the motherboard jumper block is still set to 333 from the factory. The Sonnet card probably overrides this, but the Apple ZIF is clocked by the original jumper block. You can pull off the jumper block and use mini jumpers (like the kind you use to set jumper settings on a hard drive) to adjust the speed. I always found Radio SHack to be a good place to get these. There is a great page on jumper settings for G3s at xlr8yourmac.com. If the chip is rated at 400mHz, you can probably push it to 433, but I'd get it running at 400 first. I just upgraded a 400mHz G4 tower (Gigabit Ethernet) with a 533mHz chip I had laying around from another G4 tower I no longer own. I was able to reclock it to 550 and even 600mHz and it's completely stable, though your mileage may vary. Good luck. -Hal On Mar 18, 2007, at 6:57 PM, Dan A Currie wrote: > Hello All, > > I have a very interesting question for you all. > > I recently purchased this: > > an APPLE POWER MAC G4 400 MHz, ZIF Chip. Works in the G3 BEIGE OR B/ > W MACS and Sawtooth G4's. IN GOOD WORKKING CONDITION. You will need > to move the plastic jumpers on the motherboard. www.apple.com will > assist in this process. Sample photo used. Pulled from a Working G4 > 400Mhz, Sawtooth G4. > > Well, I installed it in my daughters Beige GE MT 333 and it > works ... sort of. When I go to system profiler it says under > Processor G4 / 333. > > Now I paid a whopping $75 for the entire computer 2 years ago so i > am not too worried about voiding a warranty. What would be a > reasonable speed to overclock the Mac and exactly (talking to a 3 > year old here) how does one go about that OR would it be better to > reinstall my old Sonnet G3/500 processor?? > From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 6 07:50:11 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:43:22 2007 Subject: [G4] Hello In-Reply-To: <460E8073.6080208@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <872152.51842.qm@web81409.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dan that sounds about right but no world as to why yet... rich therepguy Houston --- Dan A Currie wrote: > Just checking. I have NOT received any postings, > including my own, since > 3-12-07. Anyone still there?? > > Dan Currie > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From jkp at xionic.net Fri Apr 6 07:49:42 2007 From: jkp at xionic.net (Jeff Pickell) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:43:31 2007 Subject: [G4] Messenger? In-Reply-To: <460DB4C2.1060803@frontiernet.net> References: <460DB4C2.1060803@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <46165E06.30607@xionic.net> Dan, I've been using Adium on my G4 as well as my MacBook. It will allow you to connect to multiple IM services such as Yahoo, AIM, and others at the same time. It's a very stable program and works quite well. The only drawback (if you would call it that) is that it does not support video or audio, it's strictly an instant messaging client. It can be found at http://www.adiumx.com Regards, -- Jeff Pickell, GSEC, SCNA, SCSA Xionic Technologies www.xionic.com Web Dan A Currie wrote: > Hello ALL, > > My wife has a G4 iBook running Tiger. All her friends are using PC's > and Yahoo Chat to talk. Is there a comparable / compatible software > option for her Mac?? > > TIA, > > Dan > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 6 07:50:39 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:43:37 2007 Subject: [G4] ping In-Reply-To: <857822.97828.qm@web37307.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <424153.84331.qm@web81403.mail.mud.yahoo.com> yo... --- Eric Hall wrote: > Is this list still alive? Haven't seen any activity. > > Eric > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From kastegir at mac.com Fri Apr 6 07:51:37 2007 From: kastegir at mac.com (Hal) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:43:51 2007 Subject: [G4] PROBLEMS INSTALLING OS 9 In-Reply-To: <20070322133644.40289.qmail@web58704.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <20070322133644.40289.qmail@web58704.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1D604207-3645-41A7-96DA-C0EFD351DE6E@mac.com> To boot OS9 on a Sawtooth, you should be able to use a generic OS9 disc if you are running the original CPU chip. I believe the latest firmware version is 4.2.8 ( I just completed this update on my G4 tower yesterday). The iMac install disc probably won't work, and the one from the Quicksilver may have the same problem. The only ones that I know to work every time are the original disc that shipped with the computer or a generic "retail" version of the Mac OS9 disc (9.0, 9.04, or 9.1). You can usually find these CDs on eBay. The other thing you can do, is copy a working OS9 system folder from another Mac to a CD or a firewire HD and then copy it to your G4. Once you do that, you should be able to select it in the Startup Disk preference under OSX and boot from it. I've done this a few times, and it almost always works. Good luck. -Hal On Mar 22, 2007, at 7:36 AM, marco santos wrote: > Hello, > > I hope somebody will be able to help me on thi matter > because I have been struggling over this for two > weeks. > > My profile: > > Powermac G4 AGP Graphic 450 Mhz (Sawtooth) > Running OS X Panther 10.3.9 > > I bought an processor upgrade for my computer @ OWC. > It's a Dual 1.0 Ghz. When I started the process to > install it, I got a message saying I had to upgrade my > firmware (now I don't remember to what version). > > So, I borrowed an OS 9 original disk from a friend of > mine that owns an old imac, but I couldn't install it > on my computer. After I boot from the disk and after > OS 9 starts and loads all the drivers BUMMM , I don't > know what happens, the thing is the computer just > stops (not frozen). I can move the mouse, but I can't > go anywhere, there is no option on the screen for me > to access. > > I heard that I have to use the original disk for > Powermac G4, so I got one from another friend that > owns a Quicksilver (G4 750 Mhz) and same thing > happened. > > Now I don't know what to do. I went to Apple Store and > support guys told they don't sell it any more. > > And, so far I couldn't install the processor upgrade I > bought, it's frustrating! > > Need help...Please! > > From briang113 at pacbell.net Fri Apr 6 08:17:49 2007 From: briang113 at pacbell.net (B G) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:50:31 2007 Subject: [G4] Video Problem In-Reply-To: <649756.89422.qm@web83403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <649756.89422.qm@web83403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Try this, Boot from the drive where you get black and white image. then open system preferences/universal access Make sure the black on white button is checked not the white on black BG On Mar 24, 2007, at 11:53 AM, kr parks wrote: > Hello: > > I am having a very strange problem with my G4 (733 > Digtal). It is displaying only black and white images, > pictures look as though they are film negatives. This > only occurs when I boot from a certain drive. When > using another drive everything appears fine. I have > 10.2.8 installed on both bootable drives. I have tried > to run disk utility but it seems to think that the > drive is in use when I try to check it, even though I > have booted from the other and started no programs. It > started all of a sudden, not after any changes were > made. Does anyone know what is going on? > > Thanks, > Kevin > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From briang113 at pacbell.net Fri Apr 6 08:18:54 2007 From: briang113 at pacbell.net (B G) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:50:48 2007 Subject: [G4] Issues with my lucky find on saint patricks day. In-Reply-To: <20070318182928.91815.qmail@web52803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <20070318182928.91815.qmail@web52803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Do you have another machine to hook the monitor into, it might be bad. BG On Mar 18, 2007, at 11:29 AM, Brandon Sternburg wrote: > > I found one of those dusty old g4 gems lying in > someones basement. it's a family number M5183 g4 > sawtooth. it is quite the beefy system already with > all the ram slots full, two hard drives, a dvd writer > and what appears to potentially be a third party G4 > upgrade. (maybe 1ghz) I wish i knew more but my issue > is that it is not giving signal to the monitor!! > > The machine starts up with a green light in front(not > sure if this is the average color) it makes the start > up tone and it sounds as it it's running perfectly. > But for some reason the video is not making it to the > monitor (which stinks because a massive 21' studio > display came with this thing.) I have also noticed > there is no power making it to the keyboard and mouse > either until sometimes after startup which means i > can't zap the pram or do any other keyboard combos to > mess with it. > > What i've done so far was to repace the video card > with a newer model ati agp but no help. I've hit the > internal NVram button and also no change still cannot > power the mouse and keyboard ut strangely the power > button does start it up but after the tone everything > goes lame. > > anyone have any suggestions?!? > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > Need Mail bonding? > Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. > http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From senseamp at yahoo.com Fri Apr 6 08:32:02 2007 From: senseamp at yahoo.com (John Niven) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:54:49 2007 Subject: [G4] Mixing internal drives In-Reply-To: <97C15556-34AE-47A5-A208-241569B94923@joimail.com> Message-ID: <608983.33590.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I don't KNOW the answer, but I suspect that you should try changing the ID number on your SCSI drive. There could be a conflict. --- JayB wrote: > Question: Is the trouble because the bus doesn't > like having BOTH > ATA and SCSI on the bus? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 From senseamp at yahoo.com Fri Apr 6 08:32:02 2007 From: senseamp at yahoo.com (John Niven) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:54:54 2007 Subject: [G4] Mixing internal drives In-Reply-To: <97C15556-34AE-47A5-A208-241569B94923@joimail.com> Message-ID: <608983.33590.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I don't KNOW the answer, but I suspect that you should try changing the ID number on your SCSI drive. There could be a conflict. --- JayB wrote: > Question: Is the trouble because the bus doesn't > like having BOTH > ATA and SCSI on the bus? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a PS3 game guru. Get your game face on with the latest PS3 news and previews at Yahoo! Games. http://videogames.yahoo.com/platform?platform=120121 From jimash at optonline.net Fri Apr 6 08:36:19 2007 From: jimash at optonline.net (James Asherman) Date: Fri Apr 6 12:56:06 2007 Subject: [G4] Technical term needed for problem! In-Reply-To: <46110A5F.9090806@rochester.rr.com> References: <46110A5F.9090806@rochester.rr.com> Message-ID: <75ACBE14-173B-4A48-BC9C-733945B498DE@optonline.net> On Apr 2, 2007, at 9:51 AM, Thomas J. Fobia wrote: > > Im using a Mac G4 with 1.75Gb of Ram (all 2-2-2 speed). I have > rebooted, zapped the p-ram, and used applejack. Nothing seems to > cure the problem. Im using a "Powerlogix" upgrade 1.6Ghz processor > (OSX.4.9). Anyone got a clue as to what this problem is and how it > might be cured? Thanks. > > Tom You want to get Onyx or System OptimizerX and do the permissions and prebindings. If that does not work I suggest that a lowering of the CPU's speed could help. My OWC mercury replcement cpu was rated for 1.3gz but at that speed the chip cache ran wild and quit on stuff. 1.26gzwas better but didn't match the bus speed well. But at 1.2 it all works good. MAybe your machine just can't handle the 1.6 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Anyone else see me responses today? -Hal From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 6 09:07:30 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:04:58 2007 Subject: [G4] Hello In-Reply-To: <4611AE17.1010908@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <20070406160730.43626.qmail@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> you bet... --- Dan A Currie wrote: > Is anyone there?? > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From cdomig at earthwave.net Fri Apr 6 09:14:44 2007 From: cdomig at earthwave.net (C Glass) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:07:21 2007 Subject: [G4] Hello In-Reply-To: <4611AE17.1010908@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: Yes On 4/2/07 9:29 PM, "Dan A Currie" wrote: > Is anyone there?? > > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070406/ab0f8b36/attachment.html From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 6 09:35:25 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:11:30 2007 Subject: [G4] Is this list still working?? In-Reply-To: <4614ED32.3040906@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <358213.42131.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yo I think it safe too say that the site has been down till today for reason unknow - or at least no one is saying. But it's good to see it back up and running now Rick Houston --- Dan A Currie wrote: > The last time that I received anything from anyone > on this list was on > 3-12-07. I have replied to several items since then > but none were ever > were posted. > > What is going on?? > > Dan A. Currie > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From obgraph at hiwaay.net Fri Apr 6 09:36:47 2007 From: obgraph at hiwaay.net (O'Brien) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:11:53 2007 Subject: [G4] Is this list still working?? In-Reply-To: <4614ED32.3040906@frontiernet.net> References: <4614ED32.3040906@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <20070406113647.704883.f66a5ee6@hiwaay.net> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 07:36:02 -0500, Dan A Currie wrote: > The last time that I received anything from anyone on this list was > on 3-12-07. I have replied to several items since then but none > were ever were posted. I (obviously) received this post, but I don't think I've received any other posts recently. I had forgotten that I was subscribed to this list. I guess, it doesn't get much traffic. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O'Brien From peter at birrendesign.com Fri Apr 6 09:37:10 2007 From: peter at birrendesign.com (Peter Birren) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:12:06 2007 Subject: [G4] Is this list still working?? In-Reply-To: <4614ED32.3040906@frontiernet.net> References: <4614ED32.3040906@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <80D3A129-C378-4692-82E1-FCD252DF479A@birrendesign.com> I checked the website yesterday to see if the list was still functional. When it was seen to be up'n'runnin', I assumed it was some glitch, nothing more, and would soon enough get worked out. Then today comes the flood of old/new notes. Yahoogroups recently experienced something similar - multiple echo posts, 5-8 of the same one - but that lasted for only one day. - Peter On Apr 5, 2007, at 7:36 AM, Dan A Currie wrote: > The last time that I received anything from anyone on this list was > on 3-12-07. I have replied to several items since then but none > were ever were posted. > > What is going on?? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070406/cde64a4d/attachment.html From harry at gifutiger.com Fri Apr 6 09:51:53 2007 From: harry at gifutiger.com (Harry Freeman) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:15:09 2007 Subject: [G4] Technical term needed for problem! In-Reply-To: <46110A5F.9090806@rochester.rr.com> References: <46110A5F.9090806@rochester.rr.com> Message-ID: Greetings ( + )!( + ) Find the file "com.apple.mail.plist" in your "Library, Preferences" and delete it, be sure to quit the mail application first. Don't worry the unix core will create a new "com.apple.mail.plist" file when you open the Mail application. If the file "com.apple.mail.plist" is already there it will use the one that exists and not create a new file. ---------------------------------------------------- On Apr 2, 2007, at 6:51 AM, Thomas J. Fobia wrote: > Hello All, > > I am trying to find the technical term (if one exists) for the > "program quit" malfunction. This is when Im using a program (any) and > all of a sudden it winks out (the program) and I find myself on the > desktop without a warning (like the program was never booted up)! Ive > just tried to type this email message in netscape mail and netscape > quit on me so now im using textedit and I will cut an paste to send it > off!. > > Im using a Mac G4 with 1.75Gb of Ram (all 2-2-2 speed). I have > rebooted, zapped the p-ram, and used applejack. Nothing seems to cure > the problem. Im using a "Powerlogix" upgrade 1.6Ghz processor > (OSX.4.9). Anyone got a clue as to what this problem is and how it > might be cured? Thanks. > > Tom > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > As income tax time approaches, did you ever notice: ? ? When you put the two words "The" and "IRS" together it spells "THEIRS"? From keith_w at dslextreme.com Fri Apr 6 10:09:14 2007 From: keith_w at dslextreme.com (keith_w) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:18:29 2007 Subject: [G4] test mesage In-Reply-To: <23969B69-BE0D-413F-BB66-77E6FB3D5FF4@mac.com> References: <23969B69-BE0D-413F-BB66-77E6FB3D5FF4@mac.com> Message-ID: <46167EBA.70802@dslextreme.com> Hal wrote: > Is this list still active? > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 It's starting to come back now, but it's mostly test messages like yours! keith whaley From lawli56 at hotmail.com Fri Apr 6 10:20:37 2007 From: lawli56 at hotmail.com (Celia Lawton-Livingstone) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:19:37 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: Where is the G4 List. Message-ID: Where it's always been, you'll find this at the top of every message from the list: [quote]Send G4 mailing list submissions to g4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com[unquote] clicking "reply" doesn't work as far as I'm aware. Celia _________________________________________________________________ Match.com - Click Here To Find Singles In Your Area Today! http://msnuk.match.com/ From nib at southslope.net Fri Apr 6 10:42:08 2007 From: nib at southslope.net (John Blumer) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:20:49 2007 Subject: [G4] Talking? In-Reply-To: <460D7158.10406@frontiernet.net> References: <460D7158.10406@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <644DFB06-8E01-4CAB-8F91-180CA72893D9@southslope.net> On Mar 30, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Dan A Currie wrote: > Hello ALL, > > My wife has a G4 iBook running Tiger. All her friends are using > PC's and Yahoo Chat to talk. Is there a comparable / compatible > software option for her Mac?? > > TIA, > > Dan Hey Dan, Try Adium, that's what I use. > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From ronsteinke at mac.com Fri Apr 6 11:06:11 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:22:15 2007 Subject: [G4] PROBLEMS INSTALLING OS 9 In-Reply-To: <20070322133644.40289.qmail@web58704.mail.re1.yahoo.com> References: <20070322133644.40289.qmail@web58704.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: On 22 Mar, 2007, at 6:36 AM, marco santos wrote: > I hope somebody will be able to help me on this matter because I > have been struggling over this for two weeks. > > My profile: > Powermac G4 AGP Graphic 450 Mhz (Sawtooth) > Running OS X Panther 10.3.9 > > I bought an processor upgrade for my computer @ OWC. It's a Dual > 1.0 Ghz. When I started the process to install it, I got a message > saying I had to upgrade my firmware (now I don't remember to what > version). > > So, I borrowed an OS 9 original disk from a friend of mine that > owns an old imac, but I couldn't install it on my computer. After I > boot from the disk and after OS 9 starts and loads all the drivers > BUMMM , I don't know what happens, the thing is the computer just > stops (not frozen). I can move the mouse, but I can't go anywhere, > there is no option on the screen for me to access. > > I heard that I have to use the original disk for Powermac G4, so I > got one from another friend that owns a Quicksilver (G4 750 Mhz) > and same thing happened. Did you have OS-9 installed on your G4 before you tried to upgrade the processor? One thing to remember is that you have to have OS-9 installed on the drive in order to update the firmware. I don't remember anything that indicates you can update the firmware without having an active OS-9 system already installed on the drive. Also, you may need to reinstall the original processor and do the firmware update with it instead of the new processor. When I have had to update firmware, I install OS-9.1 on the drive and then run the updater from a OS-9.2 CD. Then, just follow the instructions that show up on screen when you double-click on the firmware updater. This usually does the job for me if I can coordinate my hand properly with the beep of the updater program. If you hold the button too long, it makes you try again and again to activate the updater. From ronsteinke at mac.com Fri Apr 6 11:10:49 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:22:27 2007 Subject: [G4] Video Problem In-Reply-To: <649756.89422.qm@web83403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <649756.89422.qm@web83403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <32946EEE-93DC-459B-9A3F-02FC4A9555CA@mac.com> On 24 Mar, 2007, at 11:53 AM, kr parks wrote: > I am having a very strange problem with my G4 (733 > Digtal). It is displaying only black and white images, > pictures look as though they are film negatives. This > only occurs when I boot from a certain drive. ---- It > started all of a sudden, not after any changes were > made. Does anyone know what is going on? Do you have OS-9 installed? It sounds like you activated the monitor control that reverses the colors when that drive is the boot drive. There IS a control panel setting that reverses the normal Black print on White background to White print on Black if you check the box on the panel. Look there first. From jperdman at earthlink.net Fri Apr 6 11:14:36 2007 From: jperdman at earthlink.net (John Erdman) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:22:34 2007 Subject: [G4] Messenger? In-Reply-To: <460DB4C2.1060803@frontiernet.net> References: <460DB4C2.1060803@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <7D7C28D0-4321-46E3-A412-468BBEB81F26@earthlink.net> Yes, Dan - There is a version of Yahoo IM available for OS-X. I use it frequently to chat with people who remain in the Windows world. The OS-X version is basically the same as Windows but the Windows version has a few more bells and whistles (eg audio heckling). The latest handles video and text just fine. Personally I prefer Skype, but then I have some relatives who are died in the wool fans of Yahoo IM so I have to keep current with them. John On Mar 30, 2007, at 9:09 PM, Dan A Currie wrote: > Hello ALL, > > My wife has a G4 iBook running Tiger. All her friends are using > PC's and Yahoo Chat to talk. Is there a comparable / compatible > software option for her Mac?? > From earle.jones at comcast.net Fri Apr 6 11:15:19 2007 From: earle.jones at comcast.net (Earle Jones) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:22:40 2007 Subject: [G4] Hello In-Reply-To: <460E8073.6080208@frontiernet.net> References: <460E8073.6080208@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <03CB1276-F3F6-478C-A160-3974F26D874E@comcast.net> On Mar 31, 2007, at 8:38 AM, Dan A Currie wrote: > Just checking. I have NOT received any postings, including my own, > since 3-12-07. Anyone still there?? > > Dan Currie * I received NO postings to the G4 list from 3/4/07 to 4/5/07. Then today 4/6/07, I got a big bunch with posting dates from about 3/6 through today. The system hiccupped, no doubt! earle * -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070406/f4ad37bb/attachment.html From ronsteinke at mac.com Fri Apr 6 11:18:01 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:22:57 2007 Subject: [G4] PCI USB Card? In-Reply-To: <4609B703.5060603@frontiernet.net> References: <4609B703.5060603@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: On 27 Mar, 2007, at 5:29 PM, Dan A Currie wrote: > I recently purchased an Adaptec 3 Port USB 2.0 & 2 port Firewire > PCI card for MAC / PC desktops for my daughters Beige G3 so that > she could connect her Shuffle ... well when we connect the Shuffle > nothing happens ... it is NOT recognized and does not power up. > > Which slot should / would be the best slot for the USB card? You didn't indicate which OS version you are using in the G3. That is a critical issue for recognizing the USB/FW card. If you don't have at least 8.6, the computer won't recognize the card and the Shuffle won't be seen. I recommend upgrading to at least OS-9.1 on the G3 to make it easier to operate with after-market cards. The machine will easily handle that upgrade and it will eliminate other probable issues also. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070406/0f1cb727/attachment.html From ronsteinke at mac.com Fri Apr 6 11:19:40 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:23:07 2007 Subject: [G4] DVD-R camcorder footage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On 27 Mar, 2007, at 9:54 PM, les s wrote: > I have Final Cut Pro2 and OS9 as well as OSX 10.3.9 and imovie. But > first, I have to import the footage into either one of these apps. > Any ideas? Have you tried using something like "Mac, the Ripper" or "HandBrake" to see the disk? From baltwo at san.rr.com Fri Apr 6 11:33:06 2007 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:24:34 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: List Activity In-Reply-To: <20070406170733.EC8D5B0091A@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070406170733.EC8D5B0091A@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: Apparently, the server went on the blink; at least for digests (which I'm on). I sent a message to and got a bunch of digests covering the past month. Activity should be back up to normal speed in a couple of days. Cheers From nib at southslope.net Fri Apr 6 12:09:24 2007 From: nib at southslope.net (John Blumer) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:27:04 2007 Subject: [G4] desktop print 2.0 software In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 16, 2007, at 10:13 PM, Win werner wrote: > > > I run a G4 and a photosmart 7150 printer > > I have a very nice address book program (older) which I would like > to use > > I have photosmart 7150 in the chooser - printer will not print my > address program > > " program is not apple event aware" install Desktop Print 2.0 > Software - > > I have searched on older apple download sites - am not able to > locate this software - > > can anyone assist? thank you > If you are running OS X, the HP-Photosmart 7150 is listed as supported in Gimp-Print. > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 John Blumer nib@southslope.net From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 6 13:41:36 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:41:44 2007 Subject: [G4] Test In-Reply-To: <46162468.8020301@tonarchiv.ch> Message-ID: <814013.298.qm@web81408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> now you have... --- Till Wimmer wrote: > In my mailbox your message is dated from March > 25th... > > S. Kennedy wrote: > > I haven't received anything since 3/12 so I > suspect something is wrong. This is just a test. > > _______________________________________________ > > G4 mailing list > > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! > Vintage Mac and random stuff: > > > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From tom578 at rochester.rr.com Fri Apr 6 13:50:00 2007 From: tom578 at rochester.rr.com (Thomas J. Fobia) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:50:10 2007 Subject: [G4] Technical term needed for problem! In-Reply-To: References: <46110A5F.9090806@rochester.rr.com> Message-ID: <4616B278.4030106@rochester.rr.com> Thanks Harry and James for your suggestions. Since I sent out my request on the 2nd of April I have tried a few things that has greatly reduced my program "wink-outs" (don't know what else to call them!). I have unpluged my Wacom tablet/mouse and purchased a simple USB optical mouse for navigation. So technically I have decreased the number of drop-outs (wink-outs) and kernal panics. The only thing I need now is for Powerlogix to re-do their software for the OSX .4.9 update (so I can monitor the processor temperature). All is well again! Thanks again for the help! Tom Harry Freeman wrote: > Greetings ( + )!( + ) > > Find the file "com.apple.mail.plist" in your "Library, Preferences" > and delete it, be sure to quit the mail application first. > > Don't worry the unix core will create a new "com.apple.mail.plist" > file when you open the Mail application. If the file > "com.apple.mail.plist" is already there it will use the one that > exists and not create a new file. > ---------------------------------------------------- > > On Apr 2, 2007, at 6:51 AM, Thomas J. Fobia wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> I am trying to find the technical term (if one exists) for the >> "program quit" malfunction. This is when Im using a program (any) and >> all of a sudden it winks out (the program) and I find myself on the >> desktop without a warning (like the program was never booted up)! Ive >> just tried to type this email message in netscape mail and netscape >> quit on me so now im using textedit and I will cut an paste to send >> it off!. >> >> Im using a Mac G4 with 1.75Gb of Ram (all 2-2-2 speed). I have >> rebooted, zapped the p-ram, and used applejack. Nothing seems to cure >> the problem. Im using a "Powerlogix" upgrade 1.6Ghz processor >> (OSX.4.9). Anyone got a clue as to what this problem is and how it >> might be cured? Thanks. >> >> Tom >> _______________________________________________ >> G4 mailing list >> G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >> >> > As income tax time approaches, did you ever notice: > > When you put the two words "The" and "IRS" together it spells > > "THEIRS"? > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Fri Apr 6 13:53:30 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri Apr 6 13:53:34 2007 Subject: [G4] Where has everyon gone... In-Reply-To: <4616064F.5080405@dslextreme.com> Message-ID: <516584.86247.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Keith Yo Until today or was it yesterday? Anyway the list has been dead sense god know how long - guess it been fixed - cause the traffic has really picked up and that's a good thing. It would be nice to find out the why's and how's would it? One doesn't know just how much there missed till there missed... Later Rick --- keith_w wrote: > keith_w wrote: > > Richard Ramsowr wrote: > >> Yo > >> > >> Is it me or has everyone dropped of the globe? > >> > >> I haven't had a single eMail from the group sense > >> March 11th... > >> > >> What gives/ > >> > >> therepguy > >> Houston > >> _______________________________________________ > >> G4 mailing list > >> G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > >> > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Hi Richard, > > > Seems to be a problem with other lists served by > this listserver, too, > > such as the "x4u" list. Latest message from them > was dated 3-15-07. > > > > I've CC'd a copy of this message to > > > > Let's see if that gets thru. > > > > keith whaley > > Furthermore, although the archives list 90 messages > in the group for the > month of March, up to Mar. 20th, they don't show any > messages after that > date. > > keith whaley > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From jimash at optonline.net Fri Apr 6 14:21:21 2007 From: jimash at optonline.net (James Asherman) Date: Fri Apr 6 14:21:25 2007 Subject: [G4] DVD-R camcorder footage In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5AE5B7EA-36C8-427A-B71C-4DA6546F537B@optonline.net> On Apr 6, 2007, at 2:19 PM, Ronald Steinke wrote: >> I have Final Cut Pro2 and OS9 as well as OSX 10.3.9 and imovie. >> But first, I have to import the footage into either one of these >> apps. Any ideas? > > Have you tried using something like "Mac, the Ripper" or > "HandBrake" to see the disk? I have had NO luck using the litttle discs. I hand them back and either ask for a DVD transfer or the camera itself. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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It received the messages when they were sent, but internally transmitted them today (GMT), and then finally sent them out! - Aaron From britchey11 at yahoo.com Fri Apr 6 15:03:45 2007 From: britchey11 at yahoo.com (bill ritchey) Date: Fri Apr 6 15:03:55 2007 Subject: [G4] DVD-R camcorder footage In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <636902.68762.qm@web37408.mail.mud.yahoo.com> heres a work around that will work if you need to, record the mini to mini dv tape, or just play it through a mini dv camera. if thats no t possible for you, you could get an analog card and capture in fcp, you would be surprised how often professionals do this. les s wrote: Hi, My daughter and her classmates shot a school project on a Sony camcorder which records to DVD-R (mini). I was asked to edit the project. However when I loaded the DVD in my G4 Sawtooth with Superdrive, the DVD-r was not recognised. I have Final Cut Pro2 and OS9 as well as OSX 10.3.9 and imovie. But first, I have to import the footage into either one of these apps. Any ideas? Cheere, Les _______________________________________________ G4 mailing list G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 --------------------------------- Sucker-punch spam with award-winning protection. Try the free Yahoo! Mail Beta. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070406/031e12ca/attachment.html From emaxxx4 at warpmail.net Fri Apr 6 15:07:03 2007 From: emaxxx4 at warpmail.net (Eric Buczynski) Date: Fri Apr 6 15:07:13 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: G4 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 8 In-Reply-To: <20070406202439.2ABF6B35B8F@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070406202439.2ABF6B35B8F@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <94C59A27-5E66-4363-ACAE-B145FB53E61E@warpmail.net> Its in the System Preferences, Universal Access, then uncheck "White on Black" and the "Use Grayscale" buttons if they're checked. Eric On Apr 6, 2007, at 4:24 PM, g4-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > On 24 Mar, 2007, at 11:53 AM, kr parks wrote: > >> I am having a very strange problem with my G4 (733 >> Digtal). It is displaying only black and white images, >> pictures look as though they are film negatives. This >> only occurs when I boot from a certain drive. ---- It >> started all of a sudden, not after any changes were >> made. Does anyone know what is going on? > > Do you have OS-9 installed? It sounds like you activated the monitor > control that reverses the colors when that drive is the boot drive. > > There IS a control panel setting that reverses the normal Black print > on White background to White print on Black if you check the box on > the panel. Look there first. From obgraph at hiwaay.net Fri Apr 6 15:14:07 2007 From: obgraph at hiwaay.net (O'Brien) Date: Fri Apr 6 15:14:10 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: Where is the G4 List. In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20070406171407.129873.6d5729c8@hiwaay.net> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:20:37 +0000, Celia Lawton-Livingstone wrote: > clicking "reply" doesn't work as far as I'm aware. I used "reply" with my e-mail app and the reply was posted, although it did take several hours. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O'Brien From obgraph at hiwaay.net Fri Apr 6 15:17:10 2007 From: obgraph at hiwaay.net (O'Brien) Date: Fri Apr 6 15:17:15 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: Where is the G4 List. In-Reply-To: <20070406171407.129873.6d5729c8@hiwaay.net> References: <20070406171407.129873.6d5729c8@hiwaay.net> Message-ID: <20070406171710.807503.3e487513@hiwaay.net> On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 17:14:07 -0500, O'Brien wrote: > On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 17:20:37 +0000, Celia Lawton-Livingstone wrote: >> clicking "reply" doesn't work as far as I'm aware. > > I used "reply" with my e-mail app and the reply was posted, > although it did take several hours. OK...that reply just took a couple of minutes. I used e-mail to reply. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O'Brien From emaxxx4 at warpmail.net Fri Apr 6 15:18:08 2007 From: emaxxx4 at warpmail.net (Eric Buczynski) Date: Fri Apr 6 15:18:21 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: G4 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 5 In-Reply-To: <20070406193925.3D995B2A533@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070406193925.3D995B2A533@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <90DE542E-28C1-4494-AB32-8624CC42B2B2@warpmail.net> The reason for the non-working mouse and keyboard might be due to bad USB ports. I have a Digital Audio that has the same problem. When using an Apple keyboard and optical mouse, the machine would boot up, sometimes making the startup chime and sometimes no chime, but the machine would seem to power up halfway without any progress. When the keyboard and mouse were removed (both with the mouse plugged into the keyboard and the mouse plugged into the only "good" USB port on the Mac itself), the machine would make the startup chime and boot normally. The way to overcome this is a 4-port USB card that fit's in one of the PCI slots. I have one that works a little flaky, but it works. Wal Mart sells a Mac-compatible 4-port (maybe 5-port if there's one for an internal component) USB card for around $20-$25. Check their return policy if you don't plan on keeping it or using it with a PC. You'll have at least two extra ports if it works. What model of studio display do you have? Does it have USB ports on the back with the connector being ADC (Apple Display Connector - looks like DVI with rounded ends)? Keep us updated. Eric On Apr 6, 2007, at 3:39 PM, g4-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: >> I found one of those dusty old g4 gems lying in >> someones basement. it's a family number M5183 g4 >> sawtooth. it is quite the beefy system already with >> all the ram slots full, two hard drives, a dvd writer >> and what appears to potentially be a third party G4 >> upgrade. (maybe 1ghz) I wish i knew more but my issue >> is that it is not giving signal to the monitor!! >> >> The machine starts up with a green light in front(not >> sure if this is the average color) it makes the start >> up tone and it sounds as it it's running perfectly. >> But for some reason the video is not making it to the >> monitor (which stinks because a massive 21' studio >> display came with this thing.) I have also noticed >> there is no power making it to the keyboard and mouse >> either until sometimes after startup which means i >> can't zap the pram or do any other keyboard combos to >> mess with it. >> >> What i've done so far was to repace the video card >> with a newer model ati agp but no help. I've hit the >> internal NVram button and also no change still cannot >> power the mouse and keyboard ut strangely the power >> button does start it up but after the tone everything >> goes lame. From emaxxx4 at warpmail.net Fri Apr 6 15:20:50 2007 From: emaxxx4 at warpmail.net (Eric Buczynski) Date: Fri Apr 6 15:20:59 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: Technical term needed for problem! In-Reply-To: <20070406221418.38F5BB39640@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070406221418.38F5BB39640@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <355EA137-E68B-40A7-9D5C-576EB4EBA73A@warpmail.net> Check www.xlr8yourmac.com. They had recent articles on these PowerLogix processors and their voltage. Increasing the voltage made the whole machine more stable. Eric On Apr 6, 2007, at 6:14 PM, g4-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: >>> Im using a Mac G4 with 1.75Gb of Ram (all 2-2-2 speed). I have >>> rebooted, zapped the p-ram, and used applejack. Nothing seems to >>> cure >>> the problem. Im using a "Powerlogix" upgrade 1.6Ghz processor >>> (OSX.4.9). Anyone got a clue as to what this problem is and how it >>> might be cured? Thanks. >>> >>> Tom From alpoulin at cox.net Fri Apr 6 16:30:42 2007 From: alpoulin at cox.net (Al Poulin) Date: Fri Apr 6 16:31:15 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: List Activity In-Reply-To: <20070406202439.2ABF6B35B8F@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070406202439.2ABF6B35B8F@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <761eff65733a23bbdd1bf75bb76666bf@cox.net> On Apr 6, 2007, at 4:24 PM, g4-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > Message: 10 > Date: Fri, 6 Apr 2007 11:33:06 -0700 > From: John Baltutis > Subject: [G4] Re: List Activity > To: g4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Apparently, the server went on the blink; at least for digests (which > I'm on). > I sent a message to and got a bunch of > digests > covering the past month. Activity should be back up to normal speed in > a couple > of days. I just received nine digests today, all dated today, 6 April, but with content back to 13 March. Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. From kastegir at mac.com Fri Apr 6 16:48:59 2007 From: kastegir at mac.com (Hal) Date: Fri Apr 6 16:49:21 2007 Subject: [G4] PowerMac G4/600 or Dual 500? Message-ID: <769F0AC3-14D1-4417-AE5B-61E1E874D366@mac.com> Ok, here's my quandry. I'm building a gigabit ethernet G4 tower. I got the tower for almost nothing, with a stock 400mHz G4 card and 256MB of RAM. I had a processor card left over from an upgrade I did years back (OK, I actually found it in a box of stuff in my basement I'd forgotten about). It was sold as a 466mHz card in a digital audio tower, but it was actually marked 533mHz on the chip. After removing a resistor or 2 to reclock the chip, it's running at 600mHz and totally stable. Would I be better off sticking with this card (a 7410 running at 600mHz) or dropping in an Apple dual 500mHz (7400-based card), assuming I had access to both cards? Everything I've read shows that the performance should be about the same, but I'm wondering if anyone has a perspective on this I'm not using this computer for high end gaming or anything. It's basically a print and file server, but I'd like to occasionally use it for a game of Unreal Tournament or to run Connectix VGS or maybe some Duke Nukem. :-) Now, I just need some more RAM... Any info is appreciated. -Hal From chefgreg at mac.com Fri Apr 6 17:16:11 2007 From: chefgreg at mac.com (Gregory Cortelyou) Date: Fri Apr 6 17:16:16 2007 Subject: [G4] Simple Problem? Message-ID: <3E3DB686-FB66-4155-82AA-F9AB35876C3C@mac.com> Nice to see the list back up. Since upgrading to 10.4.9 a few weeks back the CD open key on my Apple keyboard no longer works. This is not a huge issue but I miss it. It worked before. I have a G4 AGP graphics. Anybody had a similar problem and fixed it? Greg From nire01 at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 17:24:06 2007 From: nire01 at gmail.com (Erin Anon) Date: Fri Apr 6 17:24:14 2007 Subject: [G4] upgrading to 10.4 and possible faulty nic Message-ID: <206d2ae00704061724j82ff986rf78080dc62647999@mail.gmail.com> I have a PowerMac G4 (AGP Graphics) with 400MHz processor and 1gb of ram and I'm having two issues. First is an upgrade issue: It currently has 10.3.9 on it, and I've gotten two different upgrade dvd's from two different people for 10.4 but I keep having the same problem. I put the dvd in the dvd drive, and it just spits it right back out after thinking about it for about 5 seconds. The cd/dvd icon never shows up on the desktop. I've tried rebooting and holding c but that just does the same thing. One of the dvd's was dvd-r but the other was dvd+r. I'm thinking the drive is probably fine since it plays normal dvd movies and can run an ubuntu livecd just fine as well. Also, my mac doesn't have firewire which it mentions on the apple site is a requirement, but would that matter? Any ideas? Second: I'm looking for a second opinion on a possible faulty ethernet nic. Has anyone heard of the ethernet nic being faulty for only getting about 1/3 of the speed available? I know the problem is localized to my computer since my roommate's computer (when hooked up via ethernet to router) gets close to full speed. I used ubuntu as a live cd and ran the same speedtests and it got the same speeds, so I'm fairly certain its not a driver issue. Could this be some type of setting thats incorrect on my computer, or is it really the hardware like I suspect? Also, is it worth getting a new ethernet nic for it, or would you recommend that I just buy a wireless card for it? Oh, and does anyone have any ideas and opinions on airport original wireless cards (my mac is compatible with those) versus pci wireless cards? I'm leaning towards pci wireless since the airport original would only be wireless b and ew, wireless b is gross. Thanks a bunch in advance for any advice!! -Erin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070406/d987f974/attachment.html From rich at richardklein.org Fri Apr 6 17:29:29 2007 From: rich at richardklein.org (Richard Klein) Date: Fri Apr 6 17:29:53 2007 Subject: [G4] upgrading to 10.4 and possible faulty nic In-Reply-To: <206d2ae00704061724j82ff986rf78080dc62647999@mail.gmail.com> References: <206d2ae00704061724j82ff986rf78080dc62647999@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4616E5E9.1040905@richardklein.org> Erin Anon wrote: > > Second: > I'm looking for a second opinion on a possible faulty ethernet nic. > Has anyone heard of the ethernet nic being faulty for only getting about > 1/3 of the speed available? I know the problem is localized to my > computer since my roommate's computer (when hooked up via ethernet to > router) gets close to full speed. > I used ubuntu as a live cd and ran the same speedtests and it got the > same speeds, so I'm fairly certain its not a driver issue. > Could this be some type of setting thats incorrect on my computer, or is > it really the hardware like I suspect? > Also, is it worth getting a new ethernet nic for it, or would you > recommend that I just buy a wireless card for it? I don't know what would cause the ethernet to run, but slowly. Maybe it's the cable? Have you tried swapping cables with your roommate's computer? -- Rich From philip.robar at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 18:44:29 2007 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Fri Apr 6 18:44:44 2007 Subject: [G4] Ansi C/C++ compiler needed 10.3.9 In-Reply-To: <615515.99207.qm@web37315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <615515.99207.qm@web37315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <4CD98D99-AB1D-45AF-B001-63A0AC19A50D@gmail.com> On Mar 16, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Eric Hall wrote: > Is there such a thing as gnu c for OS X 10.3.9? If anyone knows, > could they please let me know? I need to develop a C program and > would prefer my Mac to the Sun Solaris box I have here. Have you checked at the Apple developer site for a version of XCode for 10.3.x? Have you looked at macports.org (formerly darwinports.org)? Phil From philip.robar at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 19:00:30 2007 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Fri Apr 6 19:00:40 2007 Subject: [G4] G4 - Second cd /dvd drive In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 18, 2007, at 7:36 PM, RMATec@aol.com wrote: > I just bought a G4 800mhz. It comes with a cd that reads and writes > but does not read dvds. It uses the second front slot. The top front > slot appears empty. Is it possible to add another internal cd/dvd > reader in the top slot or is this one simply for show and must I buy > an external drive. Since you haven't told us what model of Mac you have my answer is a definite maybe. Get the model number from the back of the computer and look it up at some place like lowendmacs.com or get a copy of mactracker. If you don't find the information you need, report back here and one of us should be able to figure it out. BTW, you can definitely replace the existing CD-RW drive with a DVD burner. 10.4 has has a much better compatibility story with non-Apple drives than earlier versions, although PatchBurn helps a lot with that. Whatever is the latest Pioneer seems to be the drive of choice for many. Official Apple drives can be purchased at places like www.macsales.com and smalldog.com. Phil -- We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the soul of America dies with it. -- Edward R. Murrow From philip.robar at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 19:09:38 2007 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Fri Apr 6 19:09:50 2007 Subject: [G4] Talking? In-Reply-To: <460D7158.10406@frontiernet.net> References: <460D7158.10406@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: On Mar 30, 2007, at 1:21 PM, Dan A Currie wrote: > My wife has a G4 iBook running Tiger. All her friends are using PC's > and Yahoo Chat to talk. Is there a comparable / compatible software > option for her Mac? Umm, Yahoo Messenger? (http://messenger.yahoo.com/chat.php). Phil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070406/7f456c87/attachment.html From nire01 at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 19:19:30 2007 From: nire01 at gmail.com (Erin Anon) Date: Fri Apr 6 19:19:38 2007 Subject: [G4] upgrading to 10.4 and possible faulty nic Message-ID: <206d2ae00704061919n2d73e7c5wd7b459d7496adf91@mail.gmail.com> I don't know what would cause the ethernet to run, but slowly. Maybe it's the cable? Have you tried swapping cables with your roommate's computer? -- Rich Unfortunately thats not the issue - I've tried two different cables, both of which worked just fine with the roommate's computer. (hopefully i'm replying to this in the right way for the mailing list - if not then sorry!) -Erin -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070406/5406467f/attachment.html From philip.robar at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 19:58:31 2007 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Fri Apr 6 19:58:43 2007 Subject: [G4] Mixing internal drives In-Reply-To: <97C15556-34AE-47A5-A208-241569B94923@joimail.com> References: <97C15556-34AE-47A5-A208-241569B94923@joimail.com> Message-ID: On Mar 28, 2007, at 4:37 PM, JayB wrote: > Mine: 500 APG (sonnetted up to 1gig), 1 gig ram. > > Built @ Apple with 2ea internal 18gig Ultra SCSI drives. Not sure what you mean by this. > One SCSI died. Did you remove the dead drive and was it the last drive on the cable? In other words is your SCSI chain still properly terminated? > On advice I got here, I bought a Maxtor 100G ATA (it's really a > 112Gigs) and plugged it into the Ultra ATA port on the motherboard. How is that drive jumpered? Is it the only drive on the cable? If so is it the last drive on the cable? > Finally, I pulled the plug on the SCSI drive and normal behavior > ensued. As I implied above I suspect that your SCSI chain is no longer properly terminated. > Question: Is the trouble because the bus doesn't like having BOTH > ATA and SCSI on the bus? Or is it because the combined gigs is > beyond 128? No and no. > Or something else? Yes. :-) Phil -- "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public." - Theodore Roosevelt From philip.robar at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 20:00:55 2007 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Fri Apr 6 20:01:05 2007 Subject: [G4] Mixing internal drives In-Reply-To: <608983.33590.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> References: <608983.33590.qm@web51105.mail.re2.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <95A31B7E-CC81-4CD2-B268-77D80A138F79@gmail.com> On Apr 6, 2007, at 8:32 AM, John Niven wrote: > I don't KNOW the answer, but I suspect that you should try changing > the ID number on your SCSI drive. There > could be a conflict. Since the set up was presumably working before the drive died I can't see how there would now be a SCSI ID conflict. Phil From briang113 at pacbell.net Fri Apr 6 20:28:31 2007 From: briang113 at pacbell.net (B G) Date: Fri Apr 6 20:28:43 2007 Subject: [G4] upgrading to 10.4 and possible faulty nic In-Reply-To: <206d2ae00704061724j82ff986rf78080dc62647999@mail.gmail.com> References: <206d2ae00704061724j82ff986rf78080dc62647999@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: 10.4 will not install on some of the older machines, yours is one. You are stuck at 10.3.9 unless you can find someway around the installer. On Apr 6, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Erin Anon wrote: > I have a PowerMac G4 (AGP Graphics) with 400MHz processor and 1gb > of ram and I'm having two issues. > > First is an upgrade issue: > It currently has 10.3.9 on it, and I've gotten two different > upgrade dvd's from two different people for 10.4 but I keep having > the same problem. > I put the dvd in the dvd drive, and it just spits it right back out > after thinking about it for about 5 seconds. The cd/dvd icon never > shows up on the desktop. > I've tried rebooting and holding c but that just does the same thing. > One of the dvd's was dvd-r but the other was dvd+r. > I'm thinking the drive is probably fine since it plays normal dvd > movies and can run an ubuntu livecd just fine as well. > Also, my mac doesn't have firewire which it mentions on the apple > site is a requirement, but would that matter? > Any ideas? Brian G4 gigE 1.0 GHz Powerlogix, 1 GB RAM From philip.robar at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 20:37:15 2007 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Fri Apr 6 20:37:22 2007 Subject: [G4] PowerMac G4/600 or Dual 500? In-Reply-To: <769F0AC3-14D1-4417-AE5B-61E1E874D366@mac.com> References: <769F0AC3-14D1-4417-AE5B-61E1E874D366@mac.com> Message-ID: On Apr 6, 2007, at 4:48 PM, Hal wrote: > Would I be better off sticking with this card (a 7410 running at > 600mHz) or dropping in an Apple dual 500mHz (7400-based card), > assuming I had access to both cards? Depends on how often you use applications that are multi-processor aware or how often you run multiple processor intensive applications at once. If it helps any the difference between 500 and 600 MHz is right on the boundary of what a human can notice. If the difference in speed were any greater I'd go for the faster single processor, but given your choice I'd go for the dual set up. Phil From philip.robar at gmail.com Fri Apr 6 20:44:57 2007 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Fri Apr 6 20:45:09 2007 Subject: [G4] upgrading to 10.4 and possible faulty nic In-Reply-To: References: <206d2ae00704061724j82ff986rf78080dc62647999@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <882A4919-3F9A-4FCA-9123-2FF245F718DB@gmail.com> On Apr 6, 2007, at 8:28 PM, B G wrote: > 10.4 will not install on some of the older machines, yours is one. > You are stuck at 10.3.9 unless you can find someway around the > installer. This is not correct. Quoting from Apple: "Requirements Macintosh computer with PowerPC G5, G4, or G3 Processor; built in Firewire ..." Tiger runs just fine on my 400 MHz AGP. Phil From nagable at comcast.net Fri Apr 6 21:20:04 2007 From: nagable at comcast.net (nagable@comcast.net) Date: Fri Apr 6 21:20:15 2007 Subject: [G4] Issues with my lucky find on saint patricks day. Message-ID: <040720070420.10676.46171BF400020F2E000029B422165258060A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> Brandon: Try this. Take the battery out and check it for voltage. 3.1v is minimum--anything less, replace it. While it's out, press the PMU switch ( the little button near the battery). I use the eraser end of a pencil. Hold it down for about a second. You should hear a barely audible click while holding it. Release it immediately after the click. Wait about 10 minutes. Replace the battery (with a new one if it was low), and try starting up again. This resets the PMU chip and the PRAM. Good luck. Nate -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: B G > Do you have another machine to hook the monitor into, it might be bad. > > BG > > > > The machine starts up with a green light in front(not > > sure if this is the average color) it makes the start > > up tone and it sounds as it it's running perfectly. > > But for some reason the video is not making it to the > > monitor (which stinks because a massive 21' studio > > display came with this thing.) I have also noticed > > there is no power making it to the keyboard and mouse > > either until sometimes after startup which means i > > can't zap the pram or do any other keyboard combos to > > mess with it. From MacTechLists at cox.net Fri Apr 6 21:20:28 2007 From: MacTechLists at cox.net (SE) Date: Fri Apr 6 21:20:31 2007 Subject: [G4] G4 MDD upgrade Message-ID: <46171C0C.5000501@cox.net> I recently upgraded the OS on a G4 MDD, 1.2 GHz, 1 GB RAM from OS 10.3.9 to 10.4.7 The user is now saying she is having problems selecting things with her Microsoft, 2-button mouse. She uses Word a lot and claims she cannot select a whole line of text the way she has in the past. Also to open a document from the desktop double clicking does not seem to work. She has to right click and select open from the short cut menu. I also noticed last week on another client's new iMac running 10.4.7 that even her new Mighty Mouse seemed to only respond when items are clicked on percisely and with a lot of pressure. Has anyone experienced anything like this? SE From nagable at comcast.net Fri Apr 6 21:26:25 2007 From: nagable at comcast.net (nagable@comcast.net) Date: Fri Apr 6 21:26:34 2007 Subject: [G4] Video Problem Message-ID: <040720070426.19644.46171D710001778300004CBC22165258060A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> Cool. I didn't know that. Nate -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Rick Smykla > Try Command-Option-Control-8 > > Then take a look at the Universal Access Preference Pane. > > Rick > > On Mar 24, 2007, at 2:53 PM, kr parks wrote: > > > Hello: > > > > I am having a very strange problem with my G4 (733 > > Digtal). It is displaying only black and white images, > > pictures look as though they are film negatives. This > > only occurs when I boot from a certain drive. When > > using another drive everything appears fine. I have > > 10.2.8 installed on both bootable drives. I have tried > > to run disk utility but it seems to think that the > > drive is in use when I try to check it, even though I > > have booted from the other and started no programs. It > > started all of a sudden, not after any changes were > > made. Does anyone know what is going on? > > > > Thanks, > > Kevin > From baltwo at san.rr.com Fri Apr 6 21:36:37 2007 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Fri Apr 6 21:37:49 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: G4 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: <20070407042023.F0489B3E86A@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070407042023.F0489B3E86A@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 04/06/07, B G wrote: > On Apr 6, 2007, at 5:24 PM, Erin Anon wrote: > >> I have a PowerMac G4 (AGP Graphics) with 400MHz processor and 1gb >> of ram and I'm having two issues. >> >> First is an upgrade issue: >> It currently has 10.3.9 on it, and I've gotten two different >> upgrade dvd's from two different people for 10.4 but I keep having >> the same problem. >> >> I put the dvd in the dvd drive, and it just spits it right back out >> after thinking about it for about 5 seconds. The cd/dvd icon never >> shows up on the desktop. >> >> I've tried rebooting and holding c but that just does the same thing. >> One of the dvd's was dvd-r but the other was dvd+r. >> I'm thinking the drive is probably fine since it plays normal dvd >> movies and can run an ubuntu livecd just fine as well. >> Also, my mac doesn't have firewire which it mentions on the apple >> site is a requirement, but would that matter? > > 10.4 will not install on some of the older machines, yours is one. > > You are stuck at 10.3.9 unless you can find someway around the > installer. Where'd you get that idea? Tiger will install on all G4 machines and SOME G3 machines. These are the requirements: * Macintosh computer with a PowerPC G3, G4 or G5 processor * Built-in FireWire * DVD drive for installation * 256 MB of RAM * 3 GB of available hard disk space (4 GB if you install the developer tools) From briang113 at pacbell.net Fri Apr 6 22:06:37 2007 From: briang113 at pacbell.net (B G) Date: Fri Apr 6 22:06:50 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: G4 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 11 In-Reply-To: References: <20070407042023.F0489B3E86A@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <18F08461-AF25-4954-9971-3AA6FA65F930@pacbell.net> He says no firewire! So it will not install like I said some older machines -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Phil -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070406/fc99829d/attachment.html From lawli56 at hotmail.com Sat Apr 7 02:28:58 2007 From: lawli56 at hotmail.com (Celia Lawton-Livingstone) Date: Sat Apr 7 02:29:06 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: upgrading to 10.4 and possible faulty nic Message-ID: On Apr 6, 2007, at 8:28 PM, B G wrote: >Quoting from Apple: "Requirements Macintosh computer with PowerPC G5, G4, >or G3 Processor; built in Firewire ..." >Tiger runs just fine on my 400 MHz AGP. >Phil He said: >Also, my mac doesn't have firewire which it mentions on the apple site is >a requirement, but would that matter? I would have thought that would be the reason that's preventing him from installing 10.4... the lack of firewire. Celia _________________________________________________________________ Solve the Conspiracy and win fantastic prizes. http://www.theconspiracygame.co.uk/ From win.werner at sympatico.ca Sat Apr 7 06:35:50 2007 From: win.werner at sympatico.ca (Win werner) Date: Sat Apr 7 06:36:01 2007 Subject: [G4] sonnet 1800 MHZ Sonnet encore ST G4 Message-ID: I have a G4 - AGP Graphics - 450 MGZ 1GB SD Ram running TIGER 10,4,9 - when I am trying to install the 1800 sonnet - initially it booted p properly and ran properly - but over time on boot up it collapses and moving the mouse causes it to have to restart - but runs very unstable and I had to put the original card back in (450) to et any kind of sable running had originall installed the firmware programs as required - can the 1800 sonnet be tested if it has any inernl probems - I sent an e mail to sonnet but have had no reply- anybody any suggestions - also another problem - VIRTUAL PC needs native card - any way around this ??? win werner From douglist at macnauchtan.com Sat Apr 7 07:07:20 2007 From: douglist at macnauchtan.com (Doug McNutt) Date: Sat Apr 7 07:07:28 2007 Subject: [G4] Simple Problem? In-Reply-To: <3E3DB686-FB66-4155-82AA-F9AB35876C3C@mac.com> References: <3E3DB686-FB66-4155-82AA-F9AB35876C3C@mac.com> Message-ID: At 20:16 -0400 4/6/07, Gregory Cortelyou wrote: >Nice to see the list back up. Since upgrading to 10.4.9 a few weeks back the CD open key on my Apple keyboard no longer works. This is not a huge issue but I miss it. It worked before. I have a G4 AGP graphics. Anybody had a similar problem and fixed it? Those machines have a problem with the CD-ROM tray OPENING on boot that is associated with the USB port and what is plugged into it. You might try removing any unnecessary USB stuff but I have never heard of failure to open. -- --> From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. <-- From harry at gifutiger.com Sat Apr 7 08:29:50 2007 From: harry at gifutiger.com (Harry Freeman) Date: Sat Apr 7 08:29:59 2007 Subject: [G4] sonnet 1800 MHZ Sonnet encore ST G4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9de4082f6d4d9e27fb15d78ca62f6aaa@gifutiger.com> Greetings ( + )!( + ) Wermer, try pulling your SDRAM chips one at a time and see if that makes any difference. ---------------------------------------------------- On Apr 7, 2007, at 6:35 AM, Win werner wrote: > > I have a G4 - AGP Graphics - 450 MGZ 1GB SD Ram running TIGER > 10,4,9 - > > when I am trying to install the 1800 sonnet - initially it booted p > properly and ran properly - > but over time on boot up it collapses and moving the mouse causes it > to have to restart - > but runs very unstable and I had to put the original card back in > (450) to et any kind of sable running > had originall installed the firmware programs as required - > can the 1800 sonnet be tested if it has any inernl probems - I sent an > e mail to sonnet but have had no reply- anybody any suggestions - > also another problem - VIRTUAL PC needs native card - > any way around this ??? > > win werner > _______________________________________________ Cheers, /\*_*/\ Harry (*^_^*) * If pro is the opposite of con, then what is the opposite of progress? Congress! Men's restroom House of Representatives, Washington, DC From kastegir at mac.com Sat Apr 7 08:36:46 2007 From: kastegir at mac.com (Hal) Date: Sat Apr 7 08:37:00 2007 Subject: [G4] sonnet 1800 MHZ Sonnet encore ST G4 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Actually, Virtual PC shouldn't care whether the CPU is original or upgraded. I've used it with several upgrades from PowerLogix and GigaDesigns without problems. Good luck. -Hal On Apr 7, 2007, at 7:35 AM, Win werner wrote: > > I have a G4 - AGP Graphics - 450 MGZ 1GB SD Ram running > TIGER 10,4,9 - > > when I am trying to install the 1800 sonnet - initially it booted p > properly and ran properly - > but over time on boot up it collapses and moving the mouse causes > it to have to restart - > but runs very unstable and I had to put the original card back in > (450) to et any kind of sable running > had originall installed the firmware programs as required - > can the 1800 sonnet be tested if it has any inernl probems - I sent > an e mail to sonnet but have had no reply- anybody any suggestions > - also another problem - VIRTUAL PC needs native card - > any way around this ??? > > > > win werner From Technophobic_Tom at comcast.net Sat Apr 7 11:09:44 2007 From: Technophobic_Tom at comcast.net (Technophobic_Tom@comcast.net) Date: Sat Apr 7 11:09:54 2007 Subject: [G4] G4 without firewire Was: G4 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: <20070407153707.AC80CB477A9@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070407153707.AC80CB477A9@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: > I have a PowerMac G4...with 400MHz processor and 1gb > of ram and I'm having...an upgrade issue...my mac > doesn't have firewire which it mentions on the apple > site is a requirement, but would that matter? Q. Which G4 lacks firewire? A. None. They are Macintosh computers, after all. :-) From michael at wbsnet.org Sat Apr 7 11:39:17 2007 From: michael at wbsnet.org (R Michael Vogt) Date: Sat Apr 7 11:39:29 2007 Subject: [G4] G4 without firewire Was: G4 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 12 In-Reply-To: References: <20070407153707.AC80CB477A9@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: That is what I was going to say all AGP (sawtooth ) has Firewire ports also Tiger will run on a G4 AGP up to 10.4.9 Mike Vogt On Apr 7, 2007, at 12:09 PM, Technophobic_Tom@comcast.net wrote: >> I have a PowerMac G4...with 400MHz processor and 1gb >> of ram and I'm having...an upgrade issue...my mac >> doesn't have firewire which it mentions on the apple >> site is a requirement, but would that matter? > > Q. Which G4 lacks firewire? > A. None. > > They are Macintosh computers, after all. :-) > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From nagable at comcast.net Sat Apr 7 12:02:45 2007 From: nagable at comcast.net (nagable@comcast.net) Date: Sat Apr 7 12:02:54 2007 Subject: [G4] sonnet 1800 MHZ Sonnet encore ST G4 Message-ID: <040720071902.24993.4617EAD5000D4EC5000061A122165258560A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> I have a Sonnet 1.8GHz dual installed in my Quicksilver 2002. When it was first delivered, the cooling fans were not plugged into the processor, and it would overheat and freeze after about 5 minutes, maybe less. i called their tech support and they had me plug in the fans--the connection was under the processor board and not visible after the processor was installed. But the problem continued. This time after about an hour the computer would freeze just like it did before the fans were plugged in. I called them again, and they replaced the processor. I've been running like a charm ever since. The moral: make sure the processor's heat sink, whatever it is, is properly connected. Re: Virtual PC: I recently installed Virtual PC and Window XP (with the processor upgrade installed). It works, but it's very slow. I don't think it utilizes the dual processor. I needed it for a Web design app that was required for a class I'm taking and not available for Mac. The app runs fine. Internet Explorer, however, is VERY slow--I use it to check the Web documents. I hope this helps. Nate -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Win werner" > > I have a G4 - AGP Graphics - 450 MGZ 1GB SD Ram running TIGER > 10,4,9 - > > when I am trying to install the 1800 sonnet - initially it booted p properly > and ran properly - > but over time on boot up it collapses and moving the mouse causes it to > have to restart - > but runs very unstable and I had to put the original card back in (450) > to et any kind of sable running > had originall installed the firmware programs as required - > can the 1800 sonnet be tested if it has any inernl probems - I sent an e > mail to sonnet but have had no reply- anybody any suggestions - also > another problem - VIRTUAL PC needs native card - > any way around this ??? > > > > win werner > > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From Badhawk at comcast.net Sat Apr 7 12:12:07 2007 From: Badhawk at comcast.net (Warren Hemple) Date: Sat Apr 7 12:12:14 2007 Subject: [G4] Any help for me Message-ID: <0EE86B2C-5E10-4B5D-9138-D73785E87BC1@comcast.net> After 10.3.9 I get this when I try to log on to myspace.com G4 533 512 meg Ram digital audio Server Error in '/' Application. Runtime Error Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine. Details: To enable the details of this specific error message to be viewable on remote machines, please create a tag within a "web.config" configuration file located in the root directory of the current web application. This tag should then have its "mode" attribute set to "Off". Notes: The current error page you are seeing can be replaced by a custom error page by modifying the "defaultRedirect" attribute of the application's configuration tag to point to a custom error page URL. From nagable at comcast.net Sat Apr 7 12:14:00 2007 From: nagable at comcast.net (nagable@comcast.net) Date: Sat Apr 7 12:14:09 2007 Subject: [G4] Simple Problem? Message-ID: <040720071914.17450.4617ED78000A6EC60000442A22165258560A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> The F12 key opens the CD drive on an iBook without the "Open" key on the keyboard. Try it. Nate -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Doug McNutt > At 20:16 -0400 4/6/07, Gregory Cortelyou wrote: > >Nice to see the list back up. Since upgrading to 10.4.9 a few weeks back the > CD open key on my Apple keyboard no longer works. This is not a huge issue but > I miss it. It worked before. I have a G4 AGP graphics. Anybody had a similar > problem and fixed it? > > Those machines have a problem with the CD-ROM tray OPENING on boot that is > associated with the USB port and what is plugged into it. You might try removing > any unnecessary USB stuff but I have never heard of failure to open. > > -- > > --> From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. <-- > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From nagable at comcast.net Sat Apr 7 12:16:37 2007 From: nagable at comcast.net (nagable@comcast.net) Date: Sat Apr 7 12:16:47 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: G4 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 11 Message-ID: <040720071916.23598.4617EE150008ED7800005C2E22165258560A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> I believe Firewire came with all machines back to the 400MHz B&W G3, and the 400MHz iMac. My daughter's indigo Clamshell iBook has it, too. Nate -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: B G > He says no firewire! > > So it will not install > > like I said some older machines -------------- next part -------------- An embedded message was scrubbed... From: B G Subject: Re: [G4] Re: G4 Digest, Vol 32, Issue 11 Date: Sat, 7 Apr 2007 05:06:52 +0000 Size: 1713 Url: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070407/78f49244/attachment.mht From nagable at comcast.net Sat Apr 7 12:18:54 2007 From: nagable at comcast.net (nagable@comcast.net) Date: Sat Apr 7 12:19:03 2007 Subject: [G4] Any help for me Message-ID: <040720071918.27130.4617EE9E0006829D000069FA22165258560A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> If this is the only site you can't get to, the problem is with their server and your login, not your computer. Nate -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Warren Hemple > After 10.3.9 I get this when I try to log on to myspace.com > G4 533 512 meg Ram digital audio > > > > > Server Error in '/' Application. > > Runtime Error > > Description: An application error occurred on the > server. The current custom error settings for this > application prevent the details of the application > error from being viewed remotely (for security > reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers > running on the local server machine. > > Details: To enable the details of this specific error > message to be viewable on remote machines, please > create a tag within a "web.config" > configuration file located in the root directory of > the current web application. This tag > should then have its "mode" attribute set to "Off". From Badhawk at comcast.net Sat Apr 7 12:18:54 2007 From: Badhawk at comcast.net (Warren Hemple) Date: Sat Apr 7 12:19:06 2007 Subject: [G4] WIFI Message-ID: I just bought a 12" 1G Ibook with built-in AP extreme. WIFI range is about 10 feet any suggestions. My WIFI router is on the 1st floor and my My dell and IMAC work on the 2nd floor no problem, so signal is strong is good. From badhawk at comcast.net Sat Apr 7 12:22:00 2007 From: badhawk at comcast.net (Warren Hemple) Date: Sat Apr 7 12:22:12 2007 Subject: [G4] Any help for me In-Reply-To: <040720071918.27130.4617EE9E0006829D000069FA22165258560A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> References: <040720071918.27130.4617EE9E0006829D000069FA22165258560A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> Message-ID: <05904077-9C6A-4AC7-BC58-A885B039484C@comcast.net> I use my i book with same login and it works fine. in the same ethernet cable On Apr 7, 2007, at 3:18 PM, nagable@comcast.net wrote: > If this is the only site you can't get to, the problem is with > their server and your login, not your computer. > > Nate > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Warren Hemple >> After 10.3.9 I get this when I try to log on to myspace.com >> G4 533 512 meg Ram digital audio >> >> >> >> >> Server Error in '/' Application. >> >> Runtime Error >> >> Description: An application error occurred on the >> server. The current custom error settings for this >> application prevent the details of the application >> error from being viewed remotely (for security >> reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers >> running on the local server machine. >> >> Details: To enable the details of this specific error >> message to be viewable on remote machines, please >> create a tag within a "web.config" >> configuration file located in the root directory of >> the current web application. This tag >> should then have its "mode" attribute set to "Off". > > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From nagable at comcast.net Sat Apr 7 12:23:07 2007 From: nagable at comcast.net (nagable@comcast.net) Date: Sat Apr 7 12:23:16 2007 Subject: [G4] WIFI Message-ID: <040720071923.5493.4617EF9B0007B8450000157522165258560A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> Make sure the antenna is connected properly to the Airport card, and the card is seated correctly in the iBook. It's under the keyboard. Nate -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Warren Hemple > I just bought a 12" 1G Ibook with built-in AP extreme. WIFI range > is about 10 feet any suggestions. > My WIFI router is on the 1st floor and my My dell and IMAC work on > the 2nd floor no problem, so signal is strong is good. > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From nagable at comcast.net Sat Apr 7 12:25:32 2007 From: nagable at comcast.net (nagable@comcast.net) Date: Sat Apr 7 12:25:39 2007 Subject: [G4] Any help for me Message-ID: <040720071925.10762.4617F02C00096A2D00002A0A22165258560A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> Can you get to other Web sites? -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Warren Hemple > I use my i book with same login and it works fine. in the same > ethernet cable > > On Apr 7, 2007, at 3:18 PM, nagable@comcast.net wrote: > > > If this is the only site you can't get to, the problem is with > > their server and your login, not your computer. > > > > Nate > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > > From: Warren Hemple > >> After 10.3.9 I get this when I try to log on to myspace.com > >> G4 533 512 meg Ram digital audio > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Server Error in '/' Application. > >> > >> Runtime Error > >> > >> Description: An application error occurred on the > >> server. The current custom error settings for this > >> application prevent the details of the application > >> error from being viewed remotely (for security > >> reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers > >> running on the local server machine. > >> > >> Details: To enable the details of this specific error > >> message to be viewable on remote machines, please > >> create a tag within a "web.config" > >> configuration file located in the root directory of > >> the current web application. This tag > >> should then have its "mode" attribute set to "Off". > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > G4 mailing list > > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > > stuff: > > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From badhawk at comcast.net Sat Apr 7 12:27:41 2007 From: badhawk at comcast.net (Warren Hemple) Date: Sat Apr 7 12:27:53 2007 Subject: [G4] Any help for me In-Reply-To: <040720071925.10762.4617F02C00096A2D00002A0A22165258560A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> References: <040720071925.10762.4617F02C00096A2D00002A0A22165258560A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> Message-ID: <3C2BAB38-25E7-4000-9B49-0F71521EC238@comcast.net> all but that one On Apr 7, 2007, at 3:25 PM, nagable@comcast.net wrote: > Can you get to other Web sites? > > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Warren Hemple >> I use my i book with same login and it works fine. in the same >> ethernet cable >> >> On Apr 7, 2007, at 3:18 PM, nagable@comcast.net wrote: >> >>> If this is the only site you can't get to, the problem is with >>> their server and your login, not your computer. >>> >>> Nate >>> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >>> From: Warren Hemple >>>> After 10.3.9 I get this when I try to log on to myspace.com >>>> G4 533 512 meg Ram digital audio >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Server Error in '/' Application. >>>> >>>> Runtime Error >>>> >>>> Description: An application error occurred on the >>>> server. The current custom error settings for this >>>> application prevent the details of the application >>>> error from being viewed remotely (for security >>>> reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers >>>> running on the local server machine. >>>> >>>> Details: To enable the details of this specific error >>>> message to be viewable on remote machines, please >>>> create a tag within a "web.config" >>>> configuration file located in the root directory of >>>> the current web application. This tag >>>> should then have its "mode" attribute set to "Off". >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> G4 mailing list >>> G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 >>> >>> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >>> stuff: >>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> G4 mailing list >> G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From badhawk at comcast.net Sat Apr 7 12:35:43 2007 From: badhawk at comcast.net (Warren Hemple) Date: Sat Apr 7 12:35:54 2007 Subject: [G4] Any help for me In-Reply-To: <3C2BAB38-25E7-4000-9B49-0F71521EC238@comcast.net> References: <040720071925.10762.4617F02C00096A2D00002A0A22165258560A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> <3C2BAB38-25E7-4000-9B49-0F71521EC238@comcast.net> Message-ID: <7BE1CF10-2270-4041-9354-8012A07C5411@comcast.net> I called my sister she got it working 3 days ago but didn't tell me. She been using PC until 4 weeks ago so she used to having trouble. I guess the OSX is too simple for her. I'll set up her keychain tomorrow. On Apr 7, 2007, at 3:27 PM, Warren Hemple wrote: > all but that one > On Apr 7, 2007, at 3:25 PM, nagable@comcast.net wrote: > >> Can you get to other Web sites? >> >> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >> From: Warren Hemple >>> I use my i book with same login and it works fine. in the same >>> ethernet cable >>> >>> On Apr 7, 2007, at 3:18 PM, nagable@comcast.net wrote: >>> >>>> If this is the only site you can't get to, the problem is with >>>> their server and your login, not your computer. >>>> >>>> Nate >>>> -------------- Original message ---------------------- >>>> From: Warren Hemple >>>>> After 10.3.9 I get this when I try to log on to myspace.com >>>>> G4 533 512 meg Ram digital audio >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Server Error in '/' Application. >>>>> >>>>> Runtime Error >>>>> >>>>> Description: An application error occurred on the >>>>> server. The current custom error settings for this >>>>> application prevent the details of the application >>>>> error from being viewed remotely (for security >>>>> reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers >>>>> running on the local server machine. >>>>> >>>>> Details: To enable the details of this specific error >>>>> message to be viewable on remote machines, please >>>>> create a tag within a "web.config" >>>>> configuration file located in the root directory of >>>>> the current web application. This tag >>>>> should then have its "mode" attribute set to "Off". >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> G4 mailing list >>>> G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 >>>> >>>> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >>>> stuff: >>>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> G4 mailing list >>> G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 >>> >>> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and >>> random stuff: >>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> G4 mailing list >> G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http:/