From rmkriss at sbcglobal.net Thu Mar 1 06:32:41 2007 From: rmkriss at sbcglobal.net (Richard Kriss) Date: Thu Mar 1 06:32:52 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: G4 ram compatibility In-Reply-To: <20070301052531.D02EC9B3F54@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: > Date: Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:39:25 +1100 > From: Carl Williams > Subject: [G4] G4 ram compatibility > > I have a G4 400 (AGP Graphics) and it has 256MB of PC100 SDram. Will I > have problems if I install PC133 SDRAM alongside? > I don't think so... I have a G4 450 (AGP) with a 1GHz processor upgrade with 2 PC100 and 2 PC133 and everything works good From russells at strodtbeck.org Fri Mar 2 08:19:04 2007 From: russells at strodtbeck.org (russells@strodtbeck.org) Date: Fri Mar 2 08:19:15 2007 Subject: [G4] Smtp mail service Message-ID: <50145.1172852344@strodtbeck.org> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070302/d0697a5b/attachment.html From philip.robar at gmail.com Fri Mar 2 12:01:31 2007 From: philip.robar at gmail.com (Philip J Robar) Date: Fri Mar 2 12:01:38 2007 Subject: [G4] Smtp mail service In-Reply-To: <50145.1172852344@strodtbeck.org> References: <50145.1172852344@strodtbeck.org> Message-ID: <158620ED-58A7-4329-9A1C-A238205EBCC3@gmail.com> On Mar 2, 2007, at 8:19 AM, russells@strodtbeck.org wrote: > I have a Qwest.com as my ISP. They provide no SMTP service. Anyone > on the list accuainted with a program for Mac OS 10.3.9 that can > create or emulate SMTP server? I see a couple for PC's. I would > think one could set up a Mac to act as a SMTP server. I receive > email Ok on download to Apple's Mail client but can send nothing out > from Mail, must go to the Web based mail clinet to send Mail. Any > suggestion appreicated. 10.3.x and later come with Postfix already installed. Postfix is one of the best SMTPs around. I would suggest investigating Postfix Enabler ($10, http://www.cutedgesystems.com/software/PostfixEnabler/) or the enhanced version, MailServer. Postfix Enabler also lets you set up your own IMAP and/or POP servers if you want. Your other option is to search the net for help or get a Postfix book (search Amazon, you want one of the first two hits, avoid Blum's book.) You need to know about things like is port 25 being blocked by Qwest, not being an open relay, smart hosting, and etc. Another option is to get a free or paid for mail account and send your mail via them. Google Mail has recently added the ability to pull all of your POP enabled accounts into your Google account and they will make mail sent in response to a message from one of the pulled accounts look like you were responding from that account. Phil From imago at bellsouth.net Sun Mar 4 11:05:56 2007 From: imago at bellsouth.net (Margaret Krakowiak) Date: Sun Mar 4 11:06:08 2007 Subject: [G4] monitor problem In-Reply-To: <20070211213552.581E98D54C9@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <6154F7F4-CA83-11DB-A264-003065BF3E6C@bellsouth.net> All of a sudden my monitor resolution changed from 1024x768 to 640x480. I can't change it back, any other options are greyed out. I have a G4 450 gig ethernet model, with the original Rage pro 128 video card in the AGP slot. It shows up in the system profiler. Any ideas what happened? I repaired permissions so far, that didn't help. Should I try clearing the Pram? Do you still do that in X? margaret From douglist at macnauchtan.com Sun Mar 4 11:23:53 2007 From: douglist at macnauchtan.com (Doug McNutt) Date: Sun Mar 4 11:24:04 2007 Subject: [G4] monitor problem In-Reply-To: <6154F7F4-CA83-11DB-A264-003065BF3E6C@bellsouth.net> References: <6154F7F4-CA83-11DB-A264-003065BF3E6C@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: At 13:05 -0600 3/4/07, Margaret Krakowiak wrote: >All of a sudden my monitor resolution changed from 1024x768 >to 640x480. I can't change it back, any other options are greyed out. A broken wire or a loose connection in the video cable can do that. There are three wires which are grounded or connected with diodes that identify Macintosh monitors. They are checked at power-on time. If they were loose when last powered up the monitor type will appear frozen. Reseat the cable, make sure the screws are tight then shut down all the way to power-off. Restart. -- --> From the U S of A, the only socialist country that refuses to admit it. <-- From lawli56 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 4 13:19:54 2007 From: lawli56 at hotmail.com (Celia Lawton-Livingstone) Date: Sun Mar 4 13:20:04 2007 Subject: [G4] G4 400 (PCI) success Message-ID: I just wanted to let those of you who helped me with some questions about my Power Mac that It's now up and running with OS X 10.3.9. I added 256mb of Ram and after a visit to Apple.com discovered that I didn't need OS 9 after all as the firmware didn't need updating to run OS X. I was even more pleased to find that the restore discs for a G4 iBook I was given installed without a hitch (can you imagine trying to install Vista on a 1999 PC?... in your dreams) and I updated it to the present OS. I've also found that my mini usb mouse works very nicely with it too... can't stand that 1 button mouse I'm afraid... I keep wanting to right-click... LOL. Just needs some more RAM, extra usb ports, a wireless card, a DVD-RW and I'll be happy... I really like it and I've even been looking at new iMacs... not as expensive as I thought. My first impressions of the operating system are favourable... very similar to my Ubuntu distro in the way it works so I don't think it will take too long for me to be completely comfortable with it. Cely _________________________________________________________________ Exclusive Ed Byrne daily comedy clips on MSN Video http://specials.uk.msn.com/edbyrne/ From harry at gifutiger.com Sun Mar 4 13:28:41 2007 From: harry at gifutiger.com (Harry Freeman) Date: Sun Mar 4 13:28:50 2007 Subject: [G4] monitor problem In-Reply-To: <6154F7F4-CA83-11DB-A264-003065BF3E6C@bellsouth.net> References: <6154F7F4-CA83-11DB-A264-003065BF3E6C@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: <0d183f3194670f9df7ea563fd1e9ef61@gifutiger.com> Greetings ( + )!( + ) Margaret, the monitor tells the platform (G4 Gegabit) what is capable of supporting and then all of the other resolution are excluded. Could be the cable, the monitor or a bad connection. ---------------------------------------------------- On Mar 4, 2007, at 11:05 AM, Margaret Krakowiak wrote: > All of a sudden my monitor resolution changed from 1024x768 > to 640x480. I can't change it back, any other options are greyed out. > > I have a G4 450 gig ethernet model, with the original Rage pro 128 > video card > in the AGP slot. It shows up in the system profiler. > > Any ideas what happened? I repaired permissions so far, that didn't > help. > Should I try clearing the Pram? Do you still do that in X? > > margaret > _______________________________________________ Cheers, /\*_*/\ Harry (*^_^*) * If pro is the opposite of con, then what is the opposite of progress? Congress! Men's restroom House of Representatives, Washington, DC From earle.jones at comcast.net Sun Mar 4 13:32:53 2007 From: earle.jones at comcast.net (Earle Jones) Date: Sun Mar 4 13:33:07 2007 Subject: [G4] G4 400 (PCI) success In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <62C86882-6ECE-495B-8D14-B590C39726BB@comcast.net> On Mar 4, 2007, at 1:19 PM, Celia Lawton-Livingstone wrote: > I just wanted to let those of you who helped me with some questions > about my Power Mac that It's now up and running with OS X 10.3.9. > > I added 256mb of Ram and after a visit to Apple.com discovered that > I didn't need OS 9 after all as the firmware didn't need updating > to run OS X. I was even more pleased to find that the restore > discs for a G4 iBook I was given installed without a hitch (can you > imagine trying to install Vista on a 1999 PC?... in your dreams) > and I updated it to the present OS. I've also found that my mini > usb mouse works very nicely with it too... can't stand that 1 > button mouse I'm afraid... I keep wanting to right-click... LOL. > Just needs some more RAM, extra usb ports, a wireless card, a DVD- > RW and I'll be happy... I really like it and I've even been looking > at new iMacs... not as expensive as I thought. > > My first impressions of the operating system are favourable... very > similar to my Ubuntu distro in the way it works so I don't think it > will take too long for me to be completely comfortable with it. > > Cely * Cely: Greetings! I am running an Intel IMac and Sys X 10.4.8. I have a copy of Ubuntu version 6.06.1 LTS for Mac. I haven't loaded it yet, but I thought I'd put it on a dedicated external disk just to become familiar with it -- learn a bit about Linux, mess around, etc. I am an old Mac hand with very little PC experience. What do you recommend? Should I do it? Thanks, earle * From skygram at gmail.com Sun Mar 4 13:50:43 2007 From: skygram at gmail.com (Skygram) Date: Sun Mar 4 13:51:22 2007 Subject: [G4] G4 400 (PCI) success In-Reply-To: <62C86882-6ECE-495B-8D14-B590C39726BB@comcast.net> Message-ID: Hi Cely and Earl, I have spent that past few days playing with Ubuntu 6.10 and Suse 10.2. on an older PC that I own. Initially I had SUSE 10.1 installed and it worked great. However I was trying to get a wireless adapter installed and it was very difficult. So I downloaded the complete SUSE 10.2 and attempted to reinstall that version. To make a long story short. I have had nothing but problems with SUSE 10.2. This version has protocols for WIFI and that is why I wanted to install it. Bottom line is that think that my download was the problem. It took a very long time, much longer than when I downloaded SUSE 10.1 and it seems too problematic for me to continue with it. So I downloaded Ubuntu 6.10. I have used Ubuntu in the past and it was always terrific. Now the new version 6.10 is quite different from 6.0.6 in how it installs. So be careful. In spite of this, it works great! My current problem is fonts. The fonts that come with it are clunky and very non-standard. So I have spent a long time today trying to figure out how to install Microsoft fonts in Ubuntu. Nevertheless I shall prevail! Bill Montreal From dachamp_11226 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 4 16:55:46 2007 From: dachamp_11226 at yahoo.com (c m) Date: Sun Mar 4 16:55:58 2007 Subject: [G4] slow itunes video playback Message-ID: <51666.52410.qm@web56112.mail.re3.yahoo.com> i have a g4 sawtooth 400MHz 120g hd with 1.5Gb sdram the problem I am having is the super slow/ stop and go video playback in either iTunes or Quicktime. this is with content I have downloaded from iTunes so you think it would not play choppy. what 's the deal? i am maxed out with RAM, is my processor not enough? ____________________________________________________________________________________ No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail From lawli56 at hotmail.com Sun Mar 4 17:20:18 2007 From: lawli56 at hotmail.com (Celia Lawton-Livingstone) Date: Sun Mar 4 17:20:30 2007 Subject: [G4] G4 400 (PCI) success In-Reply-To: <20070305005604.D345D9E76F8@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: >Cely: Greetings! > >I am running an Intel IMac and Sys X 10.4.8. I have a copy of Ubuntu >version 6.06.1 LTS for Mac. > >I haven't loaded it yet, but I thought I'd put it on a dedicated >external disk just to become familiar with it -- learn a bit about >Linux, mess around, etc. > >I am an old Mac hand with very little PC experience. > >What do you recommend? Should I do it? > >Thanks, > >earle >* Hi earle, I had Xubuntu 6.10 running nicely on my G4 before I installed the extra Ram... I've got Ubuntu 6.10 running on my 2nd desktop PC as a dual boot and have also run the live cd on this laptop to see if I can dual boot it here too. The only annoying thing about running it on a PPC is that there is no shockwave/flash version for Linux on a PPC. Apart from that it's got some great programs to download and play with, so I'd go for it. I'll probably put it on an external drive when I an afford to buy one. If you were going to put it on your mac you need a small "linux boot" partitian for Linux to boot from in addition to the mac boot sector, plus a swap partition... I usually have mine twice the size of the physical memory. On a mac the boot process initiates with the mac boot sector, then the Linux boot, then the system files in the root partition. I'm not sure how it will go on an external drive, but I'd be interested to know. Cely _________________________________________________________________ MSN Hotmail is evolving – check out the new Windows Live Mail http://ideas.live.com From cbarham at pobox.com Sun Mar 4 18:20:10 2007 From: cbarham at pobox.com (Chris Barham) Date: Sun Mar 4 18:20:22 2007 Subject: [G4] G4 power mac's auction Message-ID: <375e8d880703041820j50b3f65eq277e0e457c74a4bf@mail.gmail.com> Hi, I've recently bought a couple of Power Mac G4 350's from an auction house, and it seems there are more if anyone is interested: http://www.graysonline.com.au/catalogue.asp?SALE_ID=92323&SALE_TYPE=THUMB The description isn't enough to tell if they are PCI or AGP, in fact I ended up with one of each from the last sell off they had. Chris -- ------------------------------------------------- Christopher Barham cbarham@pobox.com From imago at bellsouth.net Sun Mar 4 20:03:20 2007 From: imago at bellsouth.net (Margaret Krakowiak) Date: Sun Mar 4 20:03:34 2007 Subject: [G4] monitor problem In-Reply-To: <20070305005604.862F19E76F5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <748709E2-CACE-11DB-8785-003065BF3E6C@bellsouth.net> Thank you soooo much, Doug and Harry. I reseated the monitor cable, shut down and restarted, and everything is back to normal. So simple a fix, but I know I would *never* have thought of it. Thank you! margaret From earle.jones at comcast.net Sun Mar 4 20:21:01 2007 From: earle.jones at comcast.net (Earle Jones) Date: Sun Mar 4 20:21:12 2007 Subject: [G4] G4 400 (PCI) success In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Cely: Many thanks! I'll give you a report on my shenanigans when I try it. I'm tied up for the next day or so -- it'll probably be later this week. Best wishes, earle * On Mar 4, 2007, at 5:20 PM, Celia Lawton-Livingstone wrote: >> Cely: Greetings! >> >> I am running an Intel IMac and Sys X 10.4.8. I have a copy of Ubuntu >> version 6.06.1 LTS for Mac. >> >> I haven't loaded it yet, but I thought I'd put it on a dedicated >> external disk just to become familiar with it -- learn a bit about >> Linux, mess around, etc. >> >> I am an old Mac hand with very little PC experience. >> >> What do you recommend? Should I do it? >> >> Thanks, >> >> earle >> * > > Hi earle, > > I had Xubuntu 6.10 running nicely on my G4 before I installed the > extra Ram... I've got Ubuntu 6.10 running on my 2nd desktop PC as a > dual boot and have also run the live cd on this laptop to see if I > can dual boot it here too. The only annoying thing about running > it on a PPC is that there is no shockwave/flash version for Linux > on a PPC. Apart from that it's got some great programs to download > and play with, so I'd go for it. I'll probably put it on an > external drive when I an afford to buy one. > > If you were going to put it on your mac you need a small "linux > boot" partitian for Linux to boot from in addition to the mac boot > sector, plus a swap partition... I usually have mine twice the size > of the physical memory. > > On a mac the boot process initiates with the mac boot sector, then > the Linux boot, then the system files in the root partition. I'm > not sure how it will go on an external drive, but I'd be interested > to know. > > Cely > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Hotmail is evolving ? check out the new Windows Live Mail > http://ideas.live.com > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From lawli56 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 5 02:38:41 2007 From: lawli56 at hotmail.com (Celia Lawton-Livingstone) Date: Mon Mar 5 02:38:54 2007 Subject: [G4] Mac Classic Environment Message-ID: Hi all, Can someone explain to me what the classic environment is, do I need it and how would i install it... peferably in terms a 5 year old can understand cos I'm a bit confused about it. :) Thanks Cely _________________________________________________________________ Get Messenger FREE on your Mobile https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ From badhawk at comcast.net Mon Mar 5 04:12:07 2007 From: badhawk at comcast.net (Warren Hemple) Date: Mon Mar 5 04:12:39 2007 Subject: [G4] Mac Classic Environment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: OS9 and older is classic. I have 1 G3 1 G4 and 1 intel mac and do not use classic at all. It you plan on running programs that are not OSX you will need it. On Mar 5, 2007, at 5:38 AM, Celia Lawton-Livingstone wrote: > Hi all, > > Can someone explain to me what the classic environment is, do I > need it and how would i install it... peferably in terms a 5 year > old can understand cos I'm a bit confused about it. :) > > Thanks > > Cely > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get Messenger FREE on your Mobile https:// > livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From lawli56 at hotmail.com Mon Mar 5 04:40:53 2007 From: lawli56 at hotmail.com (Celia Lawton-Livingstone) Date: Mon Mar 5 04:41:02 2007 Subject: [G4] Mac Classic Environment In-Reply-To: <20070305005604.D345D9E76F8@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: QUOTE: OS9 and older is classic. I have 1 G3 1 G4 and 1 intel mac and do not use classic at all. It you plan on running programs that are not OSX you will need it. >------------------------------ Hi Warren, I've only been running this Mac with OS X for 2 days so at the moment I have no idea what are OS X and OS 9 applications... so I suppose the question really should have been "am I likely to need it?" Actually as primarally a PC user I've got loads of questions I want to ask, some of them I've found the answer to myself like "how do I/do I need to defrad/optimize the drive." But others like installing aps are eluding me... eg I've downloaded Firefox and double-clicked on the file to install it but it doesn't do what I expect it to do... install on the drive... it seems to exist as a volume (i think that's what it's called) on the desktop which dismounts? when I shutdown. Then the next time I want to use it i have to double-click on the .dmg file again to "re-install" it... what am I doing wrong? X11, Onyx, Open Office, MSN Messenger and The gimp all installed on the drive. So I'm confused. ?( Also iChat doesn't seem to do anything when I click on it. Celia _________________________________________________________________ Solve the Conspiracy and win fantastic prizes! http://www.theconspiracygame.co.uk/ From tresursi at operamail.com Mon Mar 5 06:47:38 2007 From: tresursi at operamail.com (Lars-Gunnar Larson) Date: Mon Mar 5 06:47:54 2007 Subject: [G4] Mac Classic Environment Message-ID: <20070305144739.03AA13AA77E@ws5-8.us4.outblaze.com> According to what you say you don?t need Classic, which is very imortant for me with a lot of old but useful programs. Sorry to say I have nowadays the same problem with Firefox, some months ago Firefox worked OK but now K have to open the dmg-file. OSV 10.3.9 Lars-Gunnar > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Celia Lawton-Livingstone" > To: g4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > Subject: [G4] Mac Classic Environment > Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:40:53 +0000 > > > QUOTE: OS9 and older is classic. I have 1 G3 1 G4 and 1 intel mac and do > not use classic at all. It you plan on running programs that are not > OSX you will need it. > > > ------------------------------ > > Hi Warren, > > I've only been running this Mac with OS X for 2 days so at the > moment I have no idea what are OS X and OS 9 applications... so I > suppose the question really should have been "am I likely to need > it?" > > Actually as primarally a PC user I've got loads of questions I want > to ask, some of them I've found the answer to myself like "how do > I/do I need to defrad/optimize the drive." > > But others like installing aps are eluding me... eg I've downloaded > Firefox and double-clicked on the file to install it but it doesn't > do what I expect it to do... install on the drive... it seems to > exist as a volume (i think that's what it's called) on the desktop > which dismounts? when I shutdown. Then the next time I want to use > it i have to double-click on the .dmg file again to "re-install" > it... what am I doing wrong? > > X11, Onyx, Open Office, MSN Messenger and The gimp all installed > on the drive. So I'm confused. ?( > > Also iChat doesn't seem to do anything when I click on it. > > Celia > > _________________________________________________________________ > Solve the Conspiracy and win fantastic prizes! > http://www.theconspiracygame.co.uk/ > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au Mon Mar 5 08:31:40 2007 From: tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au (tjoh7019@bigpond.net.au) Date: Mon Mar 5 08:32:31 2007 Subject: [G4] Mac Classic Environment Message-ID: <24317975.1173112300283.JavaMail.root@web10sl> > On Mar 5, 2007, at 5:38 AM, Celia Lawton-Livingstone wrote: > > > Hi all, > > > > Can someone explain to me what the classic environment is, do I > > need it and how would i install it... peferably in terms a 5 year > > old can understand cos I'm a bit confused about it. :) > > > > Thanks > > > > Cely Cely, to simplify this for you. If you have an older Mac, that is a power PC then you already have the classic environment available to you and you probably don't need to do anything. Only long time Mac users are likely to have any of the older OS 9 programmes and you as a Mac newbie are unlikely to ever need the classic environment. If you have a new intel Mac the Classic environment cannot operate on your machine even if you want it to. Classic is now becoming history and is not part of the modern Mac world. In other words, don't worry about it. I have Classic and have lots of older programmes, and I never use it anymore. There are some people who are more comfy with older programmes, and that is fine, it works for them, but you don't need it at all. From karlarmstrong at mac.com Mon Mar 5 08:33:36 2007 From: karlarmstrong at mac.com (Karl Armstrong) Date: Mon Mar 5 08:34:06 2007 Subject: [G4] Mac Classic Environment In-Reply-To: <20070305144739.03AA13AA77E@ws5-8.us4.outblaze.com> References: <20070305144739.03AA13AA77E@ws5-8.us4.outblaze.com> Message-ID: I believe Classic is still part of the default install for OS X. I would strongly suggest that you do not mess with the defaults unless you understand what you are doing. In this case, leaving Classic installed will harm nothing, and will possibly be useful. Long version: Prior to the introduction of Mac OS X, Mac computers used a radically different operating system. Applications written for Mac OS 9 and earlier may not run directly under OS X. Apple shipped a tool in the original and subsequent versions of OS X that emulates a 'Classic' Mac running OS 9 in a virtual machine to support these legacy applications. It's a tiny bit slower at some things, and takes forever to launch, but it usually works. Even before OS X officially shipped, Apple also shipped a bridge application framework that allowed developers to write application for both operating systems, known as Carbon. Most of the major applications shipped in the early years of OS X targeted this framework, so there are a lot of applications that will run on either OS. It's mostly stuff from the early System 8 days or earlier that will only run under classic. You are not likely to run in to much new software that even can run on the older system, and probably none that require it. From obgraph at hiwaay.net Mon Mar 5 08:41:41 2007 From: obgraph at hiwaay.net (O'Brien) Date: Mon Mar 5 08:41:46 2007 Subject: [G4] Mac Classic Environment In-Reply-To: <24317975.1173112300283.JavaMail.root@web10sl> References: <24317975.1173112300283.JavaMail.root@web10sl> Message-ID: <20070305104141.944680.c6f13980@hiwaay.net> On Tue, 6 Mar 2007 3:31:40 +1100, tjoh7019@bigpond.net.au wrote: > On Mar 5, 2007, at 5:38 AM, Celia Lawton-Livingstone wrote: Hi all, > Can someone explain to me what the classic environment is, do I > need it and how would i install it... peferably in terms a 5 year > old can understand cos I'm a bit confused about it. :) Classic allows you to run OS9 applications. If all your applications run in OSX and you will never use an older application that runs only in OS9, you don't need Classic. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O'Brien From tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au Mon Mar 5 08:54:55 2007 From: tjoh7019 at bigpond.net.au (tjoh7019@bigpond.net.au) Date: Mon Mar 5 08:55:44 2007 Subject: [G4] Mac Classic Environment Message-ID: <1909405.1173113695471.JavaMail.root@web10sl> > > Actually as primarally a PC user I've got loads of questions I want > > to ask, some of them I've found the answer to myself like "how do > > I/do I need to defrad/optimize the drive." > > > > But others like installing aps are eluding me... eg I've downloaded > > Firefox and double-clicked on the file to install it but it doesn't > > do what I expect it to do... install on the drive... it seems to > > exist as a volume (i think that's what it's called) on the desktop > > which dismounts? when I shutdown. Then the next time I want to use > > it i have to double-click on the .dmg file again to "re-install" > > it... what am I doing wrong? > > > > X11, Onyx, Open Office, MSN Messenger and The gimp all installed > > on the drive. So I'm confused. ?( > > > > Also iChat doesn't seem to do anything when I click on it. > > > > Celia Celia, Others I am sure will give better answers than I for you specific problems, but I thought I would make a couple of general suggestions that apply to all problems on the Mac. Firstly: have you discovered Apple Discussions yet? It is gigantic compared to this list with thousands of users and is the best forum for newbies. You find it at the Apple website, click 'support', then 'discussions'. You will probably have to create a user name which is called an 'Apple ID' and a password. You do not have to have a .Mac account. It is free. Second: David Pogue's Mac OS X - The Missing Manual is well worth its money in learning all the how to's of operating OS X. Third: Dr Smoke's X-Lab Troubleshooting Guide is a giant trouble shooting manual available here: http://www.thexlab.com/ that is a $15 e book download that has saved my bacon many times. Dr Smoke is one of the guru's on Apple Discussions. When I first started with Mac I had weeks of problems like you seem to be having, but it got easier pretty quickly, as it will for you. All the best. Tony http://www.tonyjohansen.com A Life Of Art From obgraph at hiwaay.net Mon Mar 5 09:34:01 2007 From: obgraph at hiwaay.net (O'Brien) Date: Mon Mar 5 09:34:15 2007 Subject: [G4] Mac Classic Environment In-Reply-To: <1909405.1173113695471.JavaMail.root@web10sl> References: <1909405.1173113695471.JavaMail.root@web10sl> Message-ID: <20070305113401.178149.ed10116c@hiwaay.net> >>> But others like installing aps are eluding me... eg I've downloaded >>> Firefox and double-clicked on the file to install it but it doesn't >>> do what I expect it to do... install on the drive... I don't know what you expect to happen, but what should happen is that when you double-click on the Firefox .dmg file that you've download a window opens which contains the Firefox icon. You *drag* the icon from that window to your system apps folder. It isn't *required* that you drag it to the apps folder -- actually, you can drag it to any location where you want want to keep it. That's all. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . O'Brien From baltwo at san.rr.com Mon Mar 5 11:38:47 2007 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Mon Mar 5 11:39:06 2007 Subject: [G4] Mac Classic Environment In-Reply-To: <20070305163411.929A79EF93F@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070305163411.929A79EF93F@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 03/05/07, "Celia Lawton-Livingstone" wrote: > On 03/05/07 Warren Hemple > >> OS9 and older is classic. I have 1 G3 1 G4 and 1 intel mac and do >> not use classic at all. It you plan on running programs that are not >> OSX you will need it.> > I've only been running this Mac with OS X for 2 days so at the moment I have > no idea what are OS X and OS 9 applications... so I suppose the question > really should have been "am I likely to need it?" > > Actually as primarally a PC user I've got loads of questions I want to ask, > some of them I've found the answer to myself like "how do I/do I need to > defrad/optimize the drive." > > But others like installing aps are eluding me... eg I've downloaded Firefox > and double-clicked on the file to install it but it doesn't do what I expect > it to do... install on the drive... it seems to exist as a volume (i think > that's what it's called) on the desktop which dismounts? when I shutdown. > Then the next time I want to use it i have to double-click on the .dmg file > again to "re-install" it... what am I doing wrong? > > X11, Onyx, Open Office, MSN Messenger and The gimp all installed on the > drive. So I'm confused. ?( > > Also iChat doesn't seem to do anything when I click on it. Since you're a "new" Mac user, you should peruse the tutorial links at: . Afterwards, there are application-specific tutorials at . From pres at mail2.gis.net Mon Mar 5 20:22:12 2007 From: pres at mail2.gis.net (David L. Presberg) Date: Mon Mar 5 20:21:22 2007 Subject: installing FireFox [WAS: "[G4] Mac Classic Environment"] Message-ID: <45ECEC74.4080501@mail2.gis.net> Celia -- The best of the newest Macintosh apps, like FireFox are quite trivial to install -- approximately 2 steps. Click on the desktop (no particular window). From the "Go" menu, select Applications. That will open a folder with all the installed applications. That was step 1. The FireFox downloaded file named with ".dmg" is a "disk image". That is why when you click on it it mounts as if it is a volume. One of the items in there is the actual application. (They've been "creative" with the background image on that top folder. I don't know if this list will allow attachments to emails -- someone let me know and I'll decorate a message with screen captures of what that latest FireFox .dmg looks like for Celia.) All you have to do to install FireFox is to drag it from the open .dmg folder into the Applications folder. That was step 2. Note that that dragging didn't actually take it out of the .dmg -- when you "drag" across "volumes" on the Mac it is actually doing a copy. (When you "drag" across folders on the same volume on a Mac, it is actually doing a move of the file.) For a "copy" you should see the cursor icon turn into a green circle with a "+"-sign on it. [All this is being done from memory so don't shoot me if the cursor isn't green... ;-) ] Apple has a not bad set of beginner tutorials at: http://www.apple.com/support/mac101/ or if you want the viewpoint of someone moving to a Mac from a PC: http://www.apple.com/support/switch101/ I'd be interested in your reaction to either of the above, given that you have a lot of experience with Linux. Let us know how this works out for you. -- Pres Re part of posting: > Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 12:40:53 +0000 > From: "Celia Lawton-Livingstone" > Subject: [G4] Mac Classic Environment > To: g4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > ... > > But others like installing aps are eluding me... eg I've downloaded Firefox > and double-clicked on the file to install it but it doesn't do what I expect > it to do... install on the drive... it seems to exist as a volume (i think > that's what it's called) on the desktop which dismounts? when I shutdown. > Then the next time I want to use it i have to double-click on the .dmg file > again to "re-install" it... what am I doing wrong? From dancurr at frontiernet.net Tue Mar 6 04:26:14 2007 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Tue Mar 6 04:26:32 2007 Subject: [G4] The History Channel Message-ID: <45ED5DE6.70109@frontiernet.net> Hello All, I have tried to visit history.com using Netscape 7.2, Safari and Firefox with NO success. Anyone know what is going on with that site and how to view it? Thanks, Dan Currie -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070306/edc742e6/attachment.html From sng at cox.net Tue Mar 6 04:34:55 2007 From: sng at cox.net (Steve Goldstein) Date: Tue Mar 6 04:35:12 2007 Subject: [G4] The History Channel In-Reply-To: <45ED5DE6.70109@frontiernet.net> References: <45ED5DE6.70109@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: I just pulled it down OK with Safari. No glitches evident. --Steve At 6:26 AM -0600 3/6/07, Dan A Currie wrote: >I have tried to visit history.com using Netscape 7.2, Safari and Firefox with NO success. From macsys at mac.com Tue Mar 6 05:28:52 2007 From: macsys at mac.com (Wayne Wilkin) Date: Tue Mar 6 05:29:40 2007 Subject: [G4] The History Channel In-Reply-To: <45ED5DE6.70109@frontiernet.net> References: <45ED5DE6.70109@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <76E5B05F-9CF1-49DE-9CF9-EDA32D1596CB@mac.com> Ya, works fine for me also. On Mar 6, 2007, at 7:26 AM, Dan A Currie wrote: > Hello All, > > I have tried to visit history.com using Netscape 7.2, Safari > and Firefox with NO success. Anyone know what is going on with > that site and how to view it? > > Thanks, > > Dan Currie > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070306/5d1437fb/attachment.html From dancurr at frontiernet.net Tue Mar 6 06:36:22 2007 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Tue Mar 6 06:36:34 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: [PPC603] The History Channel In-Reply-To: <0E19F0F6-EB47-44E9-9258-E0428E1EA9C4@comcast.net> References: <45ED5DE6.70109@frontiernet.net> <0E19F0F6-EB47-44E9-9258-E0428E1EA9C4@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45ED7C66.3000309@frontiernet.net> Kathe Wittenberg wrote: > I was able to view it using Camino v. 1.03 > > Namaste, > > Kathe > > On Mar 6, 2007, at 7:26 AM, Dan A Currie wrote: > >> Hello All, >> >> I have tried to visit history.com using Netscape 7.2, Safari and >> Firefox with NO success. Anyone know what is going on with that site >> and how to view it? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Dan Currie > > Thanks to ALL ... and especially Lady Witt, I am still having problems, it says that Flash can't read one of the fonts but I will endeavor to persevere. Later ... gator!! Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070306/cb143db1/attachment-0001.html From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 6 07:07:01 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Tue Mar 6 07:07:10 2007 Subject: [G4] The History Channel In-Reply-To: <45ED5DE6.70109@frontiernet.net> Message-ID: <558389.38078.qm@web81402.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dam works for me... Try www.history.com Later Rick Houston --- Dan A Currie wrote: > Hello All, > > I have tried to visit history.com using Netscape > 7.2, Safari and > Firefox with NO success. Anyone know what is going > on with that site > and how to view it? > > Thanks, > > Dan Currie > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From rmkriss at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 6 07:18:07 2007 From: rmkriss at sbcglobal.net (Richard Kriss) Date: Tue Mar 6 07:18:13 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: G4 Digest, Vol 31, Issue 3 In-Reply-To: <20070306143641.4749A9FC60B@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: Dan, I just went to http://www.history.com/ and it opened and worked perfect with Safari. Sounds like you have a connectivity issue with your ISP rather than a Mac issue. Dick > Date: Tue, 06 Mar 2007 06:26:14 -0600 > From: Dan A Currie > Subject: [G4] The History Channel > Hello All, > > I have tried to visit history.com using Netscape 7.2, Safari and > Firefox with NO success. Anyone know what is going on with that site > and how to view it? From lawli56 at hotmail.com Tue Mar 6 09:26:57 2007 From: lawli56 at hotmail.com (Celia Lawton-Livingstone) Date: Tue Mar 6 09:27:11 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: Mac Classic Environment In-Reply-To: <20070306143641.922A59FC60C@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: Hi, I want you thank you all for the help you've given me. I've now got everything properly installed and even downloaded a few simple games to play... sudoku, patience, mahjong, etc. I also plugged in mydigital camara and donloaded some photos... so much easier using iphoto... no driver discs to mess about with. So I'm set up for a while. Once I've found my way around a bit more I'll take a look at the command Line in Mac as well. I will definately be visiting the forums and reading the info in the links you've provided me with as well as hanging around here and annoying you with silly questions occassionally. :) Here in the UK I would estimate 90 - 95% of all computers are PCs. In fact until I got this one I had never actually seen a Mac in real life. I had always considered them an over-priced poor cousin of the PC, but then I was judging them by PC standards... MS indoctrination? I now realise that Macs are far more durable and long-lived than PCs and even the old ones are pretty powerful compared to a PC of the same era (I definately need to know more about the chip and motherboard architecture)... try running XP or Vista on a 1999 built PC... huh, I think not! As a CompTIA A+ Cetified PC technician my livelihood depends on my knowledge of PCs, so switching entirely is not an option, but I would definately like a newer Mac at some point and adding them to my repertoire certainly can't hurt... and I have to say I think the AppleCare Technician's Training is very well priced compared to MS, and I might just do it at a later date just for my own interest. I can imagine I'll end up as PCs for work but Mac for fun. And I'll report back what I think of the Switch 101. Celia _________________________________________________________________ Mortgage rates as low as 4.625% - Refinance $150,000 loan for $579 a month. Intro*Terms https://www2.nextag.com/goto.jsp?product=100000035&url=%2fst.jsp&tm=y&search=mortgage_text_links_88_h27f6&disc=y&vers=743&s=4056&p=5117 From james at overdrivedesign.com Tue Mar 6 10:05:48 2007 From: james at overdrivedesign.com (James Wilson) Date: Tue Mar 6 10:06:01 2007 Subject: [G4] Mar6.07_New to list_Like to ask a question Message-ID: Hello: I'm trying to set up a G4533 as a dedicated audio player. In another life the machine ran well on Panther as an administrative machine until recently when I decided to install Tiger. The machine has 768Mb of RAM. I took out the CD writer that the box came with and installed a DVD writer so I could install Tiger straight from the install disk. The install was successful but I cannot get the machine to boot off the startup disk. (FYI: the disk is not partitioned). All I get is the apple logo on a grey screen but no loading wheel. It hangs in otherwords. I've tried a couple of things. - forced the machine to choose a startup disk by holding down option on startup - zapped my PRAM - removed the orange micro scsi card that was installed in the box and tried to boot - installed Tiger twice Does anyone have any suggestions? Cheers, James -- Confidentiality Caution and Disclaimer This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and contains information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately at (416) 537-2803 and delete the original message. If you are the intended recipient of this message, we remind you that electronic mail on the Internet may not be secure from both privacy and software perspectives. James Wilson Principal Overdrive (Design Limited) 18 Hook Avenue, Suite 203 Toronto, Ontario Canada M6P 1T4 T: 416.537.2803 F: 905.469.6370 E: james@overdrivedesign.com W: www.overdrivedesign.com Emission-free design. From james at overdrivedesign.com Tue Mar 6 10:08:43 2007 From: james at overdrivedesign.com (James Wilson) Date: Tue Mar 6 10:08:53 2007 Subject: [G4] Mar6.07_New to list_Like to ask a question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hello: I'm trying to set up a G4533 as a dedicated audio player. In another life the machine ran well on Panther as an administrative machine until recently when I decided to install Tiger. The machine has 768Mb of RAM. I took out the CD writer that the box came with and installed a DVD writer so I could install Tiger straight from the install disk. The install was successful but I cannot get the machine to boot off the startup disk. (FYI: the disk is not partitioned). All I get is the apple logo on a grey screen but no loading wheel. It hangs in otherwords. I've tried a couple of things. - forced the machine to choose a startup disk by holding down option on startup - zapped my PRAM - removed the orange micro scsi card that was installed in the box and tried to boot - installed Tiger twice Does anyone have any suggestions? Cheers, James -- Confidentiality Caution and Disclaimer This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and contains information that is privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately at (416) 537-2803 and delete the original message. If you are the intended recipient of this message, we remind you that electronic mail on the Internet may not be secure from both privacy and software perspectives. James Wilson Principal Overdrive (Design Limited) 18 Hook Avenue, Suite 203 Toronto, Ontario Canada M6P 1T4 T: 416.537.2803 F: 905.469.6370 E: james@overdrivedesign.com W: www.overdrivedesign.com Emission-free design. From baltwo at san.rr.com Tue Mar 6 10:15:18 2007 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Tue Mar 6 10:15:27 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: [PPC603] The History Channel In-Reply-To: <20070306143641.922A59FC60C@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070306143641.922A59FC60C@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 03/06/07, Dan A Currie wrote: > Kathe Wittenberg wrote: > >> I was able to view it using Camino v. 1.03 >> >> On Mar 6, 2007, at 7:26 AM, Dan A Currie wrote: >>> >>> I have tried to visit history.com using Netscape 7.2, Safari and >>> Firefox with NO success. Anyone know what is going on with that site >>> and how to view it? >>> > Thanks to ALL ... and especially Lady Witt, I am still having problems, it >says that > Flash can't read one of the fonts but I will endeavor to persevere. Go to and test both the Shockwave & Flash Players installed in your browser. Shockwave Player is at 10.1.1.016 (get it at ) and Flash Player is at 9,0,28,0 (get it at ). From senseamp at yahoo.com Tue Mar 6 10:45:28 2007 From: senseamp at yahoo.com (John Niven) Date: Tue Mar 6 10:45:37 2007 Subject: [G4] Mar6.07_New to list_Like to ask a question In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <944091.71521.qm@web51109.mail.yahoo.com> Check the firmware revision. May be needs updateing. --- James Wilson wrote: > I'm trying to set up a G4533 as a dedicated audio > player. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ From james at overdrivedesign.com Tue Mar 6 10:53:19 2007 From: james at overdrivedesign.com (James Wilson) Date: Tue Mar 6 10:53:25 2007 Subject: [G4] Mar6.07_New to list_Like to ask a question In-Reply-To: <944091.71521.qm@web51109.mail.yahoo.com> References: <944091.71521.qm@web51109.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: Of course. :-) Cheers, J Check the firmware revision. May be needs updateing. --- James Wilson wrote: > I'm trying to set up a G4533 as a dedicated audio > player. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/ _______________________________________________ G4 mailing list G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -- Confidentiality Caution and Disclaimer This message is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and contains information that is privileged and confidential. 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070306/ffc5a784/attachment.html From imago at bellsouth.net Thu Mar 8 15:25:03 2007 From: imago at bellsouth.net (Margaret Krakowiak) Date: Thu Mar 8 15:25:34 2007 Subject: [G4] ejected disk In-Reply-To: <20070305005604.862F19E76F5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <3E1D2B22-CDCC-11DB-82EE-003065BF3E6C@bellsouth.net> Ok, I just did something *really* stupid, and I want to know if there is any remedy. I ejected a volume (partition) of my hard drive. And it's gone indeed. How can it be so easy to do something as major as that, when you get a message asking if you really want to do something, eg, quit, empty trash, etc, for most every other little thing?! Yes, I am the fool that did it, but jeez... Ah, I guess I just want to know if there's any recovery options for me. And, what happens to that partition space if not, where do all those gigabites go? margaret From imago at bellsouth.net Thu Mar 8 15:35:13 2007 From: imago at bellsouth.net (Margaret Krakowiak) Date: Thu Mar 8 15:35:23 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: disk ejected In-Reply-To: <20070305005604.862F19E76F5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: Use your head before you panic, margaret. I just remounted the volume using disk utility. It was still there! Sorry I just lost my head for a moment because I thought I had lost a bunch of recent work. Seriously I could feel the blood drain right out of my head, heh. What a dweeb. Apologies to the group. margaret From baltwo at san.rr.com Thu Mar 8 15:33:24 2007 From: baltwo at san.rr.com (John Baltutis) Date: Thu Mar 8 15:43:05 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: G4] ejected disk In-Reply-To: <20070308232537.370BFA18736@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070308232537.370BFA18736@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: On 03/08/07, Margaret Krakowiak wrote: > > Ok, I just did something *really* stupid, and I want to know > if there is any remedy. I ejected a volume (partition) of my > hard drive. And it's gone indeed. How can it be so easy to > do something as major as that, when you get a message > asking if you really want to do something, eg, quit, empty > trash, etc, for most every other little thing?! Yes, I am the fool > that did it, but jeez... Ah, I guess I just want to know if there's > any recovery options for me. And, what happens to that partition > space if not, where do all those gigabites go? Launch Disk Utility (/Applications/Utilities/), click on the partition that you unmounted (not the disk), and click on the Mount button. From ralphbones at kc.rr.com Thu Mar 8 19:35:13 2007 From: ralphbones at kc.rr.com (Ralph Garrett) Date: Thu Mar 8 19:35:24 2007 Subject: [G4] ejected disk In-Reply-To: <3E1D2B22-CDCC-11DB-82EE-003065BF3E6C@bellsouth.net> References: <3E1D2B22-CDCC-11DB-82EE-003065BF3E6C@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: Fire up disk utility and see if it shows the disk grayed out. If it's there select it and hit the mount button. On Mar 8, 2007, at 5:25 PM, Margaret Krakowiak wrote: > Ok, I just did something *really* stupid, and I want to know > if there is any remedy. I ejected a volume (partition) of my > hard drive. And it's gone indeed. How can it be so easy to > do something as major as that, when you get a message > asking if you really want to do something, eg, quit, empty > trash, etc, for most every other little thing?! Yes, I am the fool > that did it, but jeez... Ah, I guess I just want to know if there's > any recovery options for me. And, what happens to that partition > space if not, where do all those gigabites go? > > margaret > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From jmsparks1 at verizon.net Thu Mar 8 19:49:03 2007 From: jmsparks1 at verizon.net (John Sparks) Date: Thu Mar 8 19:49:27 2007 Subject: [G4] Message-ID: <3E1D2B22-CDCC-11DB-82EE-003065BF3E6C@bellsouth.net> Message-ID: hi margaret: I have ejected partitions before, when I have gone on line as a security measure. All you have to do is reboot and they all appear. However when I do this the total drive ejects. I've never seen a case of just one partition ejecting. Cheers John From ralphbones at kc.rr.com Thu Mar 8 20:07:30 2007 From: ralphbones at kc.rr.com (Ralph Garrett) Date: Thu Mar 8 20:07:35 2007 Subject: [G4] Mar6.07_New to list_Like to ask a question In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3DC148C4-736E-4E7B-A5D2-927AABE70FCD@kc.rr.com> Another thing to check is the firmware revision of the DVD writer, I had similar problems when I installed a Pioneer DVR-104 from a friends PC in my wife's G4. Bad burns, funky installs general weirdness till I updated the firmware. On Mar 6, 2007, at 12:05 PM, James Wilson wrote: > Hello: > > I'm trying to set up a G4533 as a dedicated audio player. In > another life the machine ran well on Panther as an administrative > machine until recently when I decided to install Tiger. The machine > has 768Mb of RAM. > > I took out the CD writer that the box came with and installed a DVD > writer so I could install Tiger straight from the install disk. The > install was successful but I cannot get the machine to boot off the > startup disk. (FYI: the disk is not partitioned). All I get is the > apple logo on a grey screen but no loading wheel. It hangs in > otherwords. > > I've tried a couple of things. > - forced the machine to choose a startup disk by holding down > option on startup > - zapped my PRAM > - removed the orange micro scsi card that was installed in the box > and tried to boot > - installed Tiger twice > > Does anyone have any suggestions? > > Cheers, > James > > > > -- > Confidentiality Caution and Disclaimer > This message is intended only for the use of the individual or > entity to which it is addressed and contains information that is > privileged and confidential. If the reader of this message is not > the intended recipient, or the employee or agent responsible for > delivering the message to the intended recipient, you are hereby > notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this > communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this > communication in error, please notify us immediately at (416) > 537-2803 and delete the original message. 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Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From ralphbones at kc.rr.com Thu Mar 8 20:22:01 2007 From: ralphbones at kc.rr.com (Ralph Garrett) Date: Thu Mar 8 20:22:06 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: Mac Classic Environment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 6, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Celia Lawton-Livingstone wrote: > > Here in the UK I would estimate 90 - 95% of all computers are PCs. > In fact until I got this one I had never actually seen a Mac in > real life. I had always considered them an over-priced poor cousin > of the PC, but then I was judging them by PC standards... MS > indoctrination? I now realise that Macs are far more durable and > long-lived than PCs and even the old ones are pretty powerful > compared to a PC of the same era (I definately need to know more > about the chip and motherboard architecture)... try running XP or > Vista on a 1999 built PC... huh, I think not! I have a Mac 8600 circa 1996 with a G4 CPU running at 450 MHz (2 generations above the CPU it shipped with) a Gig of RAM, 5 internal hard drives and running OS X.3. Yes they did and do make some durable machines. From ralphbones at kc.rr.com Thu Mar 8 20:23:47 2007 From: ralphbones at kc.rr.com (Ralph Garrett) Date: Thu Mar 8 20:23:51 2007 Subject: [G4] slow itunes video playback In-Reply-To: <51666.52410.qm@web56112.mail.re3.yahoo.com> References: <51666.52410.qm@web56112.mail.re3.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <56361A98-C046-4CEC-87E8-349F790355F3@kc.rr.com> 2 questions. What OS and what video card? On Mar 4, 2007, at 6:55 PM, c m wrote: > i have a g4 sawtooth 400MHz 120g hd with 1.5Gb sdram > the problem I am having is the super slow/ stop and go > video playback in either iTunes or Quicktime. this is > with content I have downloaded from iTunes so you > think it would not play choppy. > > what 's the deal? i am maxed out with RAM, is my > processor not enough? > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > ______________ > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From jj4 at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 9 00:06:23 2007 From: jj4 at sympatico.ca (Snow White) Date: Fri Mar 9 00:06:39 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: G4 Digest, Vol 31, Issue 4 In-Reply-To: <20070308232536.2F18BA18734@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070308232536.2F18BA18734@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <4a0ac2ffd20c7917a6158e085119c449@sympatico.ca> Margaret It just need remounted. Its not gone - it's ejected. Reboot or look in your utilities folder for the remount disc ( i think its in Disk Utility). And once solved, bet you never do it again. jj On 8-Mar-07, at 6:25 PM, g4-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > Ok, I just did something *really* stupid, and I want to know > if there is any remedy. I ejected a volume (partition) of my > hard drive. And it's gone indeed. How can it be so easy to > do something as major as that, when you get a message > asking if you really want to do something, eg, quit, empty > trash, etc, for most every other little thing?! Yes, I am the fool > that did it, but jeez... Ah, I guess I just want to know if there's > any recovery options for me. And, what happens to that partition > space if not, where do all those gigabites go? > > margaret From dachamp_11226 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 9 04:40:17 2007 From: dachamp_11226 at yahoo.com (c m) Date: Fri Mar 9 04:40:30 2007 Subject: [G4] slow itunes video playback In-Reply-To: <56361A98-C046-4CEC-87E8-349F790355F3@kc.rr.com> Message-ID: <227060.68611.qm@web56112.mail.re3.yahoo.com> thanx for the reply I am using OS X 10.4.8 this is what my mac tells me about the graphics/display: ATY,Rage128Pro: Chipset Model: ATY,Rage 128Pro Tyoe: Display Bus: AGP Slot: SLOT-A VRAM(Total) 16MB Vendor: ATI (0x1002) Device ID: 0x5046 Revision ID: 0x0000 ROM Revision: 113-63001-108 hope this helps you to help me. --- Ralph Garrett wrote: > 2 questions. What OS and what video card? > > > On Mar 4, 2007, at 6:55 PM, c m wrote: > > > i have a g4 sawtooth 400MHz 120g hd with 1.5Gb > sdram > > the problem I am having is the super slow/ stop > and go > > video playback in either iTunes or Quicktime. this > is > > with content I have downloaded from iTunes so you > > think it would not play choppy. > > > > what 's the deal? i am maxed out with RAM, is my > > processor not enough? > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ > > > ______________ > > No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go > > with Yahoo! Mail for Mobile. Get started. > > http://mobile.yahoo.com/mail > > _______________________________________________ > > G4 mailing list > > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! > Vintage Mac and random > > stuff: > > > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > ____________________________________________________________________________________ 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with the Yahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/shortcuts/#news From roxylee at frontiernet.net Fri Mar 9 05:59:48 2007 From: roxylee at frontiernet.net (Roxylee) Date: Fri Mar 9 06:00:07 2007 Subject: [G4] mms help In-Reply-To: <20070308232536.B0720A18735@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070308232536.B0720A18735@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <413cace4096afd89ecbb996d3210bea2@frontiernet.net> Hi, can anyone help with a streaming audio problem? My G4, running 10.3.9, used to be able to play WMA streaming audio, but now it won't, so I don't think it's an ISP problem. I did set up home networking on a Linksys router; could that be why? I tried QuickTime Player, Windows Media Player, Flip4Mac, RealPlayer, nothing happens. QT Player opens, the file name is at the top, but nothing happens when I hit Play.I tried it in Safari, Netscape, and Firefox, which is my default browser. It seems to be just the mms media type that won't play. I've looked on the web, and it says to use Flip4Mac, but it just won't work. Any ideas? Thank you in advance, Roxylee From imago at bellsouth.net Fri Mar 9 08:37:43 2007 From: imago at bellsouth.net (Margaret Krakowiak) Date: Fri Mar 9 08:37:59 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: ejected disk In-Reply-To: <20070309140010.6A698A1FE18@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <814BAC80-CE5C-11DB-ADB4-003065BF3E6C@bellsouth.net> Thanks John B and Ralph and John S for your replies to my problem, which after I posted I calmed down enough to think of opening disk utility myself, and discovered the mounting thing. And John S, it was kind of interesting, what you said about the total disk ejecting. When I accidentally dragged my "precious" (that's its name) partition to the trash, I got a message saying it was in use and couldn't be ejected - right before it disappeared. I might add that it's a partition of the drive I was booted from, though not one with any system on it. When I opened disk utility my "precious" partition was greyed out, as were the other 2 I have, and DU said they were not mounted. The partition with X on it however was not greyed out. And, the other 2 still showed up on my desktop. Anyway, I would think that no way could you eject the partition you were booted from, but I guess you can eject other partitions. The main thing is that now I know they're just unmounted, not somehow deleted, which is what I had thought at first in my panic. margaret From lawli56 at hotmail.com Fri Mar 9 08:40:55 2007 From: lawli56 at hotmail.com (Celia Lawton-Livingstone) Date: Fri Mar 9 08:41:05 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: Mac Classic Environment In-Reply-To: <20070309140010.DBBECA1FE19@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: >Message: 6 >Date: Thu, 8 Mar 2007 22:22:01 -0600 >From: Ralph Garrett >Subject: Re: [G4] Re: Mac Classic Environment >To: "A place to discuss Apple's G4 computers." > >Message-ID: >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > >On Mar 6, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Celia Lawton-Livingstone wrote: > > > > > > Here in the UK I would estimate 90 - 95% of all computers are PCs. > > In fact until I got this one I had never actually seen a Mac in > > real life. I had always considered them an over-priced poor cousin > > of the PC, but then I was judging them by PC standards... MS > > indoctrination? I now realise that Macs are far more durable and > > long-lived than PCs and even the old ones are pretty powerful > > compared to a PC of the same era (I definately need to know more > > about the chip and motherboard architecture)... try running XP or > > Vista on a 1999 built PC... huh, I think not! > > >I have a Mac 8600 circa 1996 with a G4 CPU running at 450 MHz (2 >generations above the CPU it shipped with) a Gig of RAM, 5 internal >hard drives and running OS X.3. Yes they did and do make some durable >machines. I don't find the learning curve particularly difficult either. I've learnt all about Windows sharing and now have my Mac quite happilly sharing files with my XP Pro and 2000 desktops and my XP Home laptop. I haven't booted up into Ubuntu(dual booted with 2000) yet, but I'm sure I'm manage to sort that out too. But I'm having trouble getting OS X to print properly on the shared windows printer. It's an HP Deskjet 940c and the driver doesn't seem to be in the package on my restore discs. I've tried using the nearest driver to it but all I get is the printer spitting out loads of empty pages and then a lot of gobbledegook. :( So if anyone knows where I can find the driver or knows of an alternative that works I'd be eternally grateful. I've had no luck so far trying to locate it. Cely _________________________________________________________________ Match.com - Click Here To Find Singles In Your Area Today! http://match.engb.msn.com/ From youdono at comcast.net Fri Mar 9 09:05:52 2007 From: youdono at comcast.net (Mark Laurint) Date: Fri Mar 9 09:06:02 2007 Subject: [G4] Why does my DVD tray open at startup? Message-ID: <85ED5D90-923B-4745-93EF-5B4AABBB994F@comcast.net> This doesn't happen every the time, but is there a way to stop from doing it? It's a G4 Sawtooth, running 10.4.8, 786 MB ram and a Pioneer DVR-105 burner. This has been happening ever since moving to OSX a few years ago. Thanks, Mark Laurint -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070309/d8d956be/attachment.html From gmedia.dv at verizon.net Fri Mar 9 09:39:33 2007 From: gmedia.dv at verizon.net (Ron) Date: Fri Mar 9 09:39:23 2007 Subject: [G4] Why does my DVD tray open at startup? In-Reply-To: <85ED5D90-923B-4745-93EF-5B4AABBB994F@comcast.net> References: <85ED5D90-923B-4745-93EF-5B4AABBB994F@comcast.net> Message-ID: <228BA40B-05D9-4F45-B23F-CD3FA649BC4E@verizon.net> When mine did this, it was a USB hub. try unplugging USB hubs or devices and see if that cures it. On Mar 9, 2007, at 9:05 AM3/9/07, Mark Laurint wrote: > This doesn't happen every the time, but is there a way to stop from > doing it? > It's a G4 Sawtooth, running 10.4.8, 786 MB ram and a Pioneer > DVR-105 burner. This has been happening ever since moving to OSX a > few years ago. > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070309/4b3afdca/attachment.html From ftf at mac.com Fri Mar 9 09:47:40 2007 From: ftf at mac.com (Fabian Fang) Date: Fri Mar 9 09:47:50 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: Mac Classic Environment In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Mar 9, 2007, at 8:40 AM, Celia Lawton-Livingstone wrote: > But I'm having trouble getting OS X to print properly on the shared > windows printer. It's an HP Deskjet 940c and the driver doesn't > seem to be in the package on my restore discs. I've tried using > the nearest driver to it but all I get is the printer spitting out > loads of empty pages and then a lot of gobbledegook. :( > > So if anyone knows where I can find the driver or knows of an > alternative that works I'd be eternally grateful. I've had no luck > so far trying to locate it. The printer driver package included with OS 10.4 (Tiger) does not cover certain HP printers. For my relatively old Photosmart 7350, I had to download its OS X driver from the HP website. Have you tried this driver: Fabian From douglist at macnauchtan.com Fri Mar 9 13:02:04 2007 From: douglist at macnauchtan.com (Doug McNutt) Date: Fri Mar 9 13:02:35 2007 Subject: [G4] Why does my DVD tray open at startup? In-Reply-To: <228BA40B-05D9-4F45-B23F-CD3FA649BC4E@verizon.net> References: <85ED5D90-923B-4745-93EF-5B4AABBB994F@comcast.net> <228BA40B-05D9-4F45-B23F-CD3FA649BC4E@verizon.net> Message-ID: At 09:39 -0800 3/9/07, Ron wrote: >When mine did this, it was a USB hub. try unplugging USB hubs or devices and see if that cures it. > >On Mar 9, 2007, at 9:05 AM3/9/07, Mark Laurint wrote: > >>This doesn't happen every the time, but is there a way to stop from doing it? >>It's a G4 Sawtooth, running 10.4.8, 786 MB ram and a Pioneer DVR-105 burner. This has been happening ever since moving to OSX a few years ago. I found that using a powered hub and leaving power on it all the time, even when the computer is shut down, the problem went away. I use an ADB keyboard (matches the one on this 8500) with a Griffin converter to USB and with the new hub I can't start up from the keyboard any more even though the adapter is plugged into the USB socket that the hub isn't. Fortunately the button on the computer is in the front and the CD-ROM tray doesn't bump my fingers when I poke it. Apple DOES know about the problem and it almost surely needs yet another update to firmware, I'll bet you had to update firmware to run OS neXt and that's when the problems began. Sawteeth are old dentistry. Sigh. -- --> On the eighth day, about 6 kiloyears ago, the Lord realized that free will would make man ask what existed before the Creation. So He installed a few gigayears of history complete with a big bang and a fossilized record of evolution. <-- From lawli56 at hotmail.com Sat Mar 10 01:50:10 2007 From: lawli56 at hotmail.com (Celia Lawton-Livingstone) Date: Sat Mar 10 01:50:18 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: Mac Classic Environment In-Reply-To: <20070309140010.DBBECA1FE19@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: The printer driver package included with OS 10.4 (Tiger) does not cover certain HP printers. For my relatively old Photosmart 7350, I had to download its OS X driver from the HP website. Have you tried this driver: Fabian -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Ah, I tried the package but I missed the CD at the bottom of the page. I switched to the European site and ordered one as your link is only for USA and Canadean customers. I think it's atrocious that I have to pay for it though. Why they couldnt include it is the package is beyond me. But thanks for the link. Cely _________________________________________________________________ Txt a lot? Get Messenger FREE on your mobile. https://livemessenger.mobile.uk.msn.com/ From emaxxx4 at warpmail.net Sat Mar 10 05:21:16 2007 From: emaxxx4 at warpmail.net (Eric Buczynski) Date: Sat Mar 10 05:21:32 2007 Subject: [G4] Getting a job / career In-Reply-To: <20070309140010.6A698A1FE18@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070309140010.6A698A1FE18@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <7FB29CF9-B8D8-4ACC-BF55-C1930D56C182@warpmail.net> Hello all, and thank you for your time. I've been unemployed for a while, but have come across opportunities to work with Macs on a few occasions. One place was well established and dealt with nothing but Macs while another was a computer shop that covered Macs and PCs. Both places wanted someone who had their certification or was working toward it. The trouble is, how does one get this type of certification without having to pay for Apple's courses? The PC platform has various certifications, and one does not have to go through Microsoft to get it, so what gives? As I said I'm unemployed right now, and living in the Pittsburgh PA area I don't know of any colleges that give Apple certifications. I graduated from Computer Tech in 1999, which is now known by a different name and focuses on design rather than computer programming and platform knowledge. I've worked on various Macs from the Classic, to laptops, to four models in between to my current G4 Digital Audio, and even replaced the battery on my iPod. I've disassembled and repaired two digital cameras as well. When the Apple Store first opened in the area I was one of the few to get the first phone call but not the second. After applying in December I didn't get a call back from them despite having more experience than the last time. I'm also a writer and Volunteer Coordinator for Macinstruct.com. So what does it take? I'm not going back to school because I already have two associates degrees, and I'm not working again while going to school only because my grades weren't the best because of having to split the time. I believe that my Mac hardware troubleshooting will only be a hobby and not a career because I don't have the certification. Sometimes I even regret choosing the Mac solely based on the lack of opportunities out there. So what does it take? This, by all means, is not a cry for help. I want to get a job based on merit and experience, not because i know someone in the industry. Can anyone please give me pointers? I appreciate everyone's time and input. Eric Buczynski From jimash at optonline.net Sat Mar 10 07:39:58 2007 From: jimash at optonline.net (James Asherman) Date: Sat Mar 10 07:40:07 2007 Subject: [G4] Getting a job / career In-Reply-To: <7FB29CF9-B8D8-4ACC-BF55-C1930D56C182@warpmail.net> References: <20070309140010.6A698A1FE18@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <7FB29CF9-B8D8-4ACC-BF55-C1930D56C182@warpmail.net> Message-ID: On Mar 10, 2007, at 8:21 AM, Eric Buczynski wrote: > So what does it take? I don't know if this is what you're after but, In the large bookstores ( maybe applestores too) you can buy books about these things with CD's and certification applications in them. Read the book, do the test online or whatever and get certified at home on your own time. Luck Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070310/8dfc1589/attachment-0001.html From alpoulin at cox.net Sat Mar 10 10:30:31 2007 From: alpoulin at cox.net (Al Poulin) Date: Sat Mar 10 10:30:42 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: Mac Classic Environment & FireFox In-Reply-To: <20070305163411.464AB9EF93C@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070305163411.464AB9EF93C@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <84132c6723bd1e84d3f892da2a6ef171@cox.net> I am just catching up on two weeks of mail after a trip. Yes, FireFox is frustrating, but really very simple, once I understood the process. Just drag the application's icon, not the "volume," from the Desktop to the Applications Folder. Al Poulin On Mar 5, 2007, at 11:34 AM, g4-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > > Message: 8 > Date: Mon, 05 Mar 2007 15:47:38 +0100 > From: "Lars-Gunnar Larson" > > According to what you say you don?t need Classic, which is very > imortant for me with a lot of old but useful programs. > > Sorry to say I have nowadays the same problem with Firefox, some > months ago Firefox worked OK but now K have to open the dmg-file. OSV > 10.3.9 > > Lars-Gunnar > >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Celia Lawton-Livingstone" >> To: g4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> But others like installing aps are eluding me... eg I've downloaded >> Firefox and double-clicked on the file to install it but it doesn't >> do what I expect it to do... install on the drive... it seems to >> exist as a volume (i think that's what it's called) on the desktop >> which dismounts? when I shutdown. Then the next time I want to use >> it i have to double-click on the .dmg file again to "re-install" >> it... what am I doing wrong? From rnorthouse at wi.rr.com Sat Mar 10 14:11:56 2007 From: rnorthouse at wi.rr.com (Richard Northouse) Date: Sat Mar 10 14:12:07 2007 Subject: [G4] Getting a job / career In-Reply-To: <7FB29CF9-B8D8-4ACC-BF55-C1930D56C182@warpmail.net> Message-ID: <200703102211.l2AMBtmu012301@ms-smtp-04.rdc-kc.rr.com> Eric, How old are you? And what are your two associate degrees in? Rich -----Original Message----- From: g4-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com [mailto:g4-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com] On Behalf Of Eric Buczynski Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 7:21 AM To: g4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com Subject: [G4] Getting a job / career Hello all, and thank you for your time. I've been unemployed for a while, but have come across opportunities to work with Macs on a few occasions. One place was well established and dealt with nothing but Macs while another was a computer shop that covered Macs and PCs. Both places wanted someone who had their certification or was working toward it. The trouble is, how does one get this type of certification without having to pay for Apple's courses? The PC platform has various certifications, and one does not have to go through Microsoft to get it, so what gives? As I said I'm unemployed right now, and living in the Pittsburgh PA area I don't know of any colleges that give Apple certifications. I graduated from Computer Tech in 1999, which is now known by a different name and focuses on design rather than computer programming and platform knowledge. I've worked on various Macs from the Classic, to laptops, to four models in between to my current G4 Digital Audio, and even replaced the battery on my iPod. I've disassembled and repaired two digital cameras as well. When the Apple Store first opened in the area I was one of the few to get the first phone call but not the second. After applying in December I didn't get a call back from them despite having more experience than the last time. I'm also a writer and Volunteer Coordinator for Macinstruct.com. So what does it take? I'm not going back to school because I already have two associates degrees, and I'm not working again while going to school only because my grades weren't the best because of having to split the time. I believe that my Mac hardware troubleshooting will only be a hobby and not a career because I don't have the certification. Sometimes I even regret choosing the Mac solely based on the lack of opportunities out there. So what does it take? This, by all means, is not a cry for help. I want to get a job based on merit and experience, not because i know someone in the industry. Can anyone please give me pointers? I appreciate everyone's time and input. Eric Buczynski _______________________________________________ G4 mailing list G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 10:58 AM -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.8/714 - Release Date: 3/8/2007 10:58 AM From youdono at comcast.net Sat Mar 10 14:52:08 2007 From: youdono at comcast.net (Mark Laurint) Date: Sat Mar 10 14:52:17 2007 Subject: [G4] G4] Why does my DVD tray open at startup? Message-ID: <71E2EEE4-63D4-46B9-9FAB-6308F48F4C22@comcast.net> Thanks for the suggestions, No USB hubs attached but I do have an ATTO SCSI card and drive attached. I use the Apple keyboard that came with the box and a new apple mouse. Mark Laurint youdono@comcast.net -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070310/972b498f/attachment.html From rmkriss at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 11 05:55:59 2007 From: rmkriss at sbcglobal.net (Richard Kriss) Date: Sun Mar 11 04:56:14 2007 Subject: [G4] Daylight Saving Time change Hosed Message-ID: I have a G4 AGP (1GHz) running OSX 10.4.8 that did not get the word on the change to Daylight Savings time. It was one hour behind all of the house clocks, including the atomic clock that reset itself. I don't know if the problem is with Mac OSX or the Apple Americas/U.S. (time.apple.co) network clock. If I check the "Set date & time automatically" option in the Date & Time System Prefs the time goes back one hour. The only way I can get the correct time to display is to uncheck the option. Anyone else having problems? Dick From jester_123 at yahoo.com Sun Mar 11 04:58:35 2007 From: jester_123 at yahoo.com (Eric Hall) Date: Sun Mar 11 04:58:48 2007 Subject: [G4] Daylight Saving Time change Hosed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <303718.22993.qm@web37315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I'm having no problems. I have a G3 iBook and a G4 Sawtooth - both took the change fine. Have you run software update recently? Eric Richard Kriss wrote: I have a G4 AGP (1GHz) running OSX 10.4.8 that did not get the word on the change to Daylight Savings time. It was one hour behind all of the house clocks, including the atomic clock that reset itself. I don't know if the problem is with Mac OSX or the Apple Americas/U.S. (time.apple.co) network clock. If I check the "Set date & time automatically" option in the Date & Time System Prefs the time goes back one hour. The only way I can get the correct time to display is to uncheck the option. Anyone else having problems? Dick _______________________________________________ G4 mailing list G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070311/a203020c/attachment.html From keith_w at dslextreme.com Sun Mar 11 05:09:51 2007 From: keith_w at dslextreme.com (keith_w) Date: Sun Mar 11 05:09:59 2007 Subject: [G4] Daylight Saving Time change Hosed In-Reply-To: <303718.22993.qm@web37315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <303718.22993.qm@web37315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45F3FF9F.3060104@dslextreme.com> Eric Hall wrote: > I'm having no problems. I have a G3 iBook and a G4 Sawtooth - both took > the change fine. Have you run software update recently? > > Eric Perhaps Richard lives in one of the areas of the country who do not observe DLST? I'm not particularly conversant with what areas don't observe it, nor do I know why...I've just heard that's the case, and maybe Richard is a resident of such? Grasping at straws here, as MY computer made the change, and I'm in the Pacific Time zone. keith whaley ~ Los Angeles G4 MDD, OS 10.4.8 > */Richard Kriss /* wrote: > > I have a G4 AGP (1GHz) running OSX 10.4.8 that did not get the word > on the > change to Daylight Savings time. It was one hour behind all of the house > clocks, including the atomic clock that reset itself. I don't know > if the > problem is with Mac OSX or the Apple Americas/U.S. (time.apple.co) > network > clock. If I check the "Set date & time automatically" option in the > Date & > Time System Prefs the time goes back one hour. The only way I can > get the > correct time to display is to uncheck the option. > > Anyone else having problems? > > Dick From rmkriss at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 11 06:06:22 2007 From: rmkriss at sbcglobal.net (Richard Kriss) Date: Sun Mar 11 06:06:28 2007 Subject: [G4] FW: Daylight Saving Time change Hosed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Just got it fixed!!!! I ran all of the updates. The problem was in my Time Zone panel within the Date & Time System Preference. For some reason it was showing my location with CST. I clicked on it and it changed to DST and everything started working. If your time is hosed, double-check the Time Zone panel for DST 73 Dick AA5VU From: Richard Kriss Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:55:59 -0500 To: G4 listserver Subject: Daylight Saving Time change Hosed I have a G4 AGP (1GHz) running OSX 10.4.8 that did not get the word on the change to Daylight Savings time. It was one hour behind all of the house clocks, including the atomic clock that reset itself. I don't know if the problem is with Mac OSX or the Apple Americas/U.S. (time.apple.co) network clock. If I check the "Set date & time automatically" option in the Date & Time System Prefs the time goes back one hour. The only way I can get the correct time to display is to uncheck the option. Anyone else having problems? Dick ------ End of Forwarded Message From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Sun Mar 11 09:15:05 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Sun Mar 11 09:15:16 2007 Subject: [G4] FW: Daylight Saving Time change Hosed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20070311171505.96334.qmail@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Richard and for that matter all of us who read this site... JUST THINK WHAT ARE PC BRETHREN ARE DOING TODAY! I ACTUALLY SAY A SO CALLED PC EXPERT TELLING THE LOCAL TV STATION THAT IF A PERSON'S TIME SOFTWARE WAS HOSED DUE TO THE CHANGES THEY WOULD ONLY HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT FOR "JUST THREE (3) WEEKS? - GIVE OR TAKE A LITTLE! WOW BUT THERE WAS NO MENTION MADE OF WHAT GOING TO HAPPEN THIS COMING FALL! BY IN LARGE, I THINK APPLE DID A REALLY FINE JOB OF THIS ISSUE - IF ONE CAN EVEN CALL IT A ISSUE! BILLY GATES AND M$$$$$$$... CAN'T SAY THE SAME! Rich in Houston ------------------------------------------------------------ --- Richard Kriss wrote: > Just got it fixed!!!! > > I ran all of the updates. The problem was in my > Time Zone panel within the > Date & Time System Preference. For some reason it > was showing my location > with CST. I clicked on it and it changed to DST and > everything started > working. > > If your time is hosed, double-check the Time Zone > panel for DST > > 73 Dick AA5VU > > From: Richard Kriss > Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:55:59 -0500 > To: G4 listserver > > Subject: Daylight Saving Time change Hosed > > I have a G4 AGP (1GHz) running OSX 10.4.8 that did > not get the word on the > change to Daylight Savings time. It was one hour > behind all of the house > clocks, including the atomic clock that reset > itself. I don't know if the > problem is with Mac OSX or the Apple Americas/U.S. > (time.apple.co) network > clock. If I check the "Set date & time > automatically" option in the Date & > Time System Prefs the time goes back one hour. The > only way I can get the > correct time to display is to uncheck the option. > > Anyone else having problems? > > Dick > > ------ End of Forwarded Message > > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From rich at richardklein.org Sun Mar 11 09:20:21 2007 From: rich at richardklein.org (Richard Klein) Date: Sun Mar 11 09:20:37 2007 Subject: [G4] FW: Daylight Saving Time change Hosed In-Reply-To: <20070311171505.96334.qmail@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070311171505.96334.qmail@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <45F43A55.7050508@richardklein.org> Richard Ramsowr wrote: > Richard and for that matter all of us who read this > site... > > JUST THINK WHAT ARE PC BRETHREN ARE DOING TODAY! I Come on, man! Is that really necessary? -- Rich From garth at JacqCAD.com Sun Mar 11 09:54:16 2007 From: garth at JacqCAD.com (Garth Fletcher) Date: Sun Mar 11 09:54:40 2007 Subject: [G4] FW: Daylight Saving Time change Hosed In-Reply-To: <20070311171521.D5714A37FFD@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070311171521.D5714A37FFD@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <45F44248.90603@JacqCAD.com> I'm running 10.3.8. I'm still back on the old time as of 12:40 EST. In System Prefs / Date & Time, if I turn off automatic, then turn it back on, it updates the time to the incorrect value. From which I deduce that the problem is NOT with time.apple.com, but rather with how the value is adjusted by the local software. The relevant articles from Apple include: The upshot of which is that 10.3 - you must update to 10.3.9 to be able to update for the correct time handling 10.4 - update to at least 10.4.5 for US/Canada timing and to 10.4.8 for all regions So there you have it... -- Garth Fletcher From brettcaven at gmail.com Sun Mar 11 10:10:28 2007 From: brettcaven at gmail.com (Brett Caven) Date: Sun Mar 11 10:10:36 2007 Subject: [G4] Daylight Saving Time change Hosed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <944d273d0703111110t731db33nd8af82efc3d62060@mail.gmail.com> Did you download the update from Apple? The only computer I have the didn't automatically change was my Xbox 360. On 3/11/07, Richard Kriss wrote: > > I have a G4 AGP (1GHz) running OSX 10.4.8 that did not get the word on the > change to Daylight Savings time. It was one hour behind all of the house > clocks, including the atomic clock that reset itself. I don't know if the > problem is with Mac OSX or the Apple Americas/U.S. (time.apple.co) network > clock. If I check the "Set date & time automatically" option in the Date > & > Time System Prefs the time goes back one hour. The only way I can get the > correct time to display is to uncheck the option. > > Anyone else having problems? > > Dick > > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > -- -Brett -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070311/7e9159cb/attachment.html From earle.jones at comcast.net Sun Mar 11 11:54:26 2007 From: earle.jones at comcast.net (Earle Jones) Date: Sun Mar 11 11:54:32 2007 Subject: [G4] Daylight Saving Time change Hosed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4003FA72-F9CF-4F7C-AB4B-740876279842@comcast.net> On Mar 11, 2007, at 6:55 AM, Richard Kriss wrote: > I have a G4 AGP (1GHz) running OSX 10.4.8 that did not get the word > on the > change to Daylight Savings time. It was one hour behind all of the > house > clocks, including the atomic clock that reset itself. I don't know > if the > problem is with Mac OSX or the Apple Americas/U.S. (time.apple.co) > network > clock. If I check the "Set date & time automatically" option in > the Date & > Time System Prefs the time goes back one hour. The only way I can > get the > correct time to display is to uncheck the option. > > Anyone else having problems? > > Dick * No problem here. (Intel iMac Sys X 10.4.8). I set preferences "Date and Time" to use "Apple Americas/U.S. (time.apple.com)" to automatically set the time. When I awoke this AM, the clock was right. earle * From earle.jones at comcast.net Sun Mar 11 11:58:13 2007 From: earle.jones at comcast.net (Earle Jones) Date: Sun Mar 11 11:58:21 2007 Subject: [G4] Daylight Saving Time change Hosed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <150CC5F7-9A80-4AAD-B38D-DD5210B0B65C@comcast.net> On Mar 11, 2007, at 6:55 AM, Richard Kriss wrote: > I have a G4 AGP (1GHz) running OSX 10.4.8 that did not get the word > on the > change to Daylight Savings time. It was one hour behind all of the > house > clocks, including the atomic clock that reset itself. I don't know > if the > problem is with Mac OSX or the Apple Americas/U.S. (time.apple.co) > network > clock. If I check the "Set date & time automatically" option in > the Date & > Time System Prefs the time goes back one hour. The only way I can > get the > correct time to display is to uncheck the option. > > Anyone else having problems? > > Dick * Dick: On Feb 15, 2007 Apple sent out a "Daylight Saving Time Update". I suspect you missed it. earle * From harry at gifutiger.com Sun Mar 11 16:02:44 2007 From: harry at gifutiger.com (Harry Freeman) Date: Sun Mar 11 16:02:57 2007 Subject: [G4] FW: Daylight Saving Time change Hosed In-Reply-To: <20070311171505.96334.qmail@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <20070311171505.96334.qmail@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <7c36f1c17e7ef5e5ac4588b0b135b4d8@gifutiger.com> Greetings ( + )!( + ) Nice guess Rich, however all that Apple did was copy a patch that was issued by the University of New Hampshire, and other user groups about 4-5 months ago. I believe that I got my patch from a site somewhere in Europe about a month ago and just made sure that the Apple update contained the same information. I did down load the Apple patch because my software update kept saying that I needed an update. For OUR Win-Tel brethren, the following patches are also available at: ==================================================== Windows XP SP2 Apply update, see KB931836 ** Windows XP SP1 Upgrade to SP2 first, then apply update Windows Server 2003 Apply update, see KB931836 ** Windows 2000 Update available only under Extended Hotfix Support ** Mac OS X 10.4.6 or later None - but updating to 10.4.8 is recommended Mac OS X 10.4 - 10.4.5 Update to 10.4.8 Mac OS X 10.3.9 and earlier Install the CIS Mac OS X TimeZone update Unix/Linux Check Unix distribution's website for update Outlook 2007 Run "Time Zone Data Update Tool" ** Outlook 2003, XP, 2000 Run "Time Zone Data Update Tool" ** Entourage 2004 Install Office 2004 Update 11.3.3 ** Other Devices (Blackberry, etc.) See below, and check manufacturer's website ==================================================== http://cis.unh.edu/index.cfm?id=829B4055-D672-CF1C-DB8FCB9351378084 On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:15 AM, Richard Ramsowr wrote: > Richard and for that matter all of us who read this > site... > > JUST THINK WHAT ARE PC BRETHREN ARE DOING TODAY! I > > ACTUALLY SAY A SO CALLED PC EXPERT TELLING THE LOCAL > TV STATION THAT IF A PERSON'S TIME SOFTWARE WAS HOSED > DUE TO THE CHANGES THEY WOULD ONLY HAVE TO LIVE WITH > IT FOR "JUST THREE (3) WEEKS? - GIVE OR TAKE A LITTLE! > > > WOW > > BUT THERE WAS NO MENTION MADE OF WHAT GOING TO HAPPEN > THIS COMING FALL! > > BY IN LARGE, I THINK APPLE DID A REALLY FINE JOB OF > THIS ISSUE - IF ONE CAN EVEN CALL IT A ISSUE! > > BILLY GATES AND M$$$$$$$... CAN'T SAY THE SAME! > > Rich in Houston > ------------------------------------------------------------ > > --- Richard Kriss wrote: > >> Just got it fixed!!!! >> >> I ran all of the updates. The problem was in my >> Time Zone panel within the >> Date & Time System Preference. For some reason it >> was showing my location >> with CST. I clicked on it and it changed to DST and >> everything started >> working. >> >> If your time is hosed, double-check the Time Zone >> panel for DST >> >> 73 Dick AA5VU >> >> From: Richard Kriss >> Date: Sun, 11 Mar 2007 07:55:59 -0500 >> To: G4 listserver >> >> Subject: Daylight Saving Time change Hosed >> >> I have a G4 AGP (1GHz) running OSX 10.4.8 that did >> not get the word on the >> change to Daylight Savings time. It was one hour >> behind all of the house >> clocks, including the atomic clock that reset >> itself. I don't know if the >> problem is with Mac OSX or the Apple Americas/U.S. >> (time.apple.co) network >> clock. If I check the "Set date & time >> automatically" option in the Date & >> Time System Prefs the time goes back one hour. The >> only way I can get the >> correct time to display is to uncheck the option. >> >> Anyone else having problems? >> >> Dick >> >> ------ End of Forwarded Message >> _______________________________________________ Cheers, /\*_*/\ Harry (*^_^*) * If pro is the opposite of con, then what is the opposite of progress? Congress! Men's restroom House of Representatives, Washington, DC From nagable at comcast.net Sun Mar 11 17:16:08 2007 From: nagable at comcast.net (nagable@comcast.net) Date: Sun Mar 11 17:16:18 2007 Subject: [G4] Daylight Saving Time change Hosed Message-ID: <031220070116.2415.45F4A9D8000DD4F00000096F22165499760A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> Mine changed. USA Eastern Time Zone, G4 QuickSilver, OS 10.4.8. Nate -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Richard Kriss > I have a G4 AGP (1GHz) running OSX 10.4.8 that did not get the word on the > change to Daylight Savings time. It was one hour behind all of the house > clocks, including the atomic clock that reset itself. I don't know if the > problem is with Mac OSX or the Apple Americas/U.S. (time.apple.co) network > clock. If I check the "Set date & time automatically" option in the Date & > Time System Prefs the time goes back one hour. The only way I can get the > correct time to display is to uncheck the option. > > Anyone else having problems? > > Dick > > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From ronsteinke at mac.com Sun Mar 11 18:24:25 2007 From: ronsteinke at mac.com (Ronald Steinke) Date: Sun Mar 11 18:26:05 2007 Subject: [G4] Getting a job / career In-Reply-To: <7FB29CF9-B8D8-4ACC-BF55-C1930D56C182@warpmail.net> References: <20070309140010.6A698A1FE18@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <7FB29CF9-B8D8-4ACC-BF55-C1930D56C182@warpmail.net> Message-ID: <0672B467-C9A7-4AE2-97DB-44AFF9D1ADC4@mac.com> On 10 Mar, 2007, at 5:21 AM, Eric Buczynski wrote: > So what does it take? Apple makes available to interested persons a training/certification process that you must pay for in order to receive the materials. I believe that the cost is still around $300US for the packet. The program is less expensive than the cost of textbooks on MS products and is easier to understand and put to use. I purchased my packet directly from Apple years ago and use the knowledge in recycling Macintosh computers for school usage. You are encouraged to study at a regular pace and when you feel that you have completed the study program, you can take the examination at the Apple Headquarters in Cupertino or in other locations when exams are scheduled there. I do not know whether an exam would ever be scheduled in your area. Good luck. From brettgeorge at comcast.net Sun Mar 11 19:29:30 2007 From: brettgeorge at comcast.net (Brett George) Date: Sun Mar 11 19:29:53 2007 Subject: [G4] Daylight Saving Time change Hosed In-Reply-To: <031220070116.2415.45F4A9D8000DD4F00000096F22165499760A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> References: <031220070116.2415.45F4A9D8000DD4F00000096F22165499760A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> Message-ID: <45F4C91A.8000904@comcast.net> As did mine. I wasn't really worried about it, but got curious because of the other posts. G4 Digital Audio, OS 10.4.8 brett nagable@comcast.net wrote: > Mine changed. > USA Eastern Time Zone, G4 QuickSilver, OS 10.4.8. > > Nate > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Richard Kriss > >> I have a G4 AGP (1GHz) running OSX 10.4.8 that did not get the word on the >> change to Daylight Savings time. It was one hour behind all of the house >> clocks, including the atomic clock that reset itself. I don't know if the >> problem is with Mac OSX or the Apple Americas/U.S. (time.apple.co) network >> clock. If I check the "Set date & time automatically" option in the Date & >> Time System Prefs the time goes back one hour. The only way I can get the >> correct time to display is to uncheck the option. >> >> Anyone else having problems? >> >> Dick >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> G4 mailing list >> G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >> > > _______________________________________________ > G4 mailing list > G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > From earle.jones at comcast.net Sun Mar 11 19:35:45 2007 From: earle.jones at comcast.net (Earle Jones) Date: Sun Mar 11 19:35:55 2007 Subject: [G4] FW: Daylight Saving Time change Hosed In-Reply-To: <7c36f1c17e7ef5e5ac4588b0b135b4d8@gifutiger.com> References: <20070311171505.96334.qmail@web81407.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <7c36f1c17e7ef5e5ac4588b0b135b4d8@gifutiger.com> Message-ID: <0FED0BAE-54F8-4A31-8540-C6866A9C8923@comcast.net> On Mar 11, 2007, at 5:02 PM, Harry Freeman wrote: > Greetings ( + )!( + ) > > Nice guess Rich, however all that Apple did was copy a patch that > was issued by the University of New Hampshire, and other user > groups about 4-5 months ago. I believe that I got my patch from a > site somewhere in Europe about a month ago and just made sure that > the Apple update contained the same information. I did down load > the Apple patch because my software update kept saying that I > needed an update. > > For OUR Win-Tel brethren, the following patches are also available at: > ==================================================== > Windows XP SP2 Apply update, see KB931836 ** > Windows XP SP1 Upgrade to SP2 first, then apply update > Windows Server 2003 Apply update, see KB931836 ** > Windows 2000 Update available only under Extended Hotfix > Support ** > Mac OS X 10.4.6 or later None - but updating to 10.4.8 is > recommended > Mac OS X 10.4 - 10.4.5 Update to 10.4.8 > Mac OS X 10.3.9 and earlier Install the CIS Mac OS X TimeZone update > Unix/Linux Check Unix distribution's website for update > Outlook 2007 Run "Time Zone Data Update Tool" ** > Outlook 2003, XP, 2000 Run "Time Zone Data Update Tool" ** > Entourage 2004 Install Office 2004 Update 11.3.3 ** > Other Devices (Blackberry, etc.) See below, and check > manufacturer's website > ==================================================== > http://cis.unh.edu/index.cfm?id=829B4055-D672-CF1C-DB8FCB9351378084 * Apple sent a standard update on Feb. 15 which took care (transparently) of the Daylight Saving Time problem. What are you babbling on about? earle * From earle.jones at comcast.net Sun Mar 11 19:37:17 2007 From: earle.jones at comcast.net (Earle Jones) Date: Sun Mar 11 19:37:27 2007 Subject: [G4] Daylight Saving Time change Hosed In-Reply-To: <031220070116.2415.45F4A9D8000DD4F00000096F22165499760A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> References: <031220070116.2415.45F4A9D8000DD4F00000096F22165499760A040D0E090E02@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1051D2AD-9E91-420B-BFD5-F1E65C34AB10@comcast.net> On Mar 11, 2007, at 6:16 PM, nagable@comcast.net wrote: > Mine changed. > USA Eastern Time Zone, G4 QuickSilver, OS 10.4.8. > > Nate > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Richard Kriss >> I have a G4 AGP (1GHz) running OSX 10.4.8 that did not get the >> word on the >> change to Daylight Savings time. It was one hour behind all of >> the house >> clocks, including the atomic clock that reset itself. I don't >> know if the >> problem is with Mac OSX or the Apple Americas/U.S. (time.apple.co) >> network >> clock. If I check the "Set date & time automatically" option in >> the Date & >> Time System Prefs the time goes back one hour. The only way I can >> get the >> correct time to display is to uncheck the option. >> >> Anyone else having problems? >> >> Dick I suspect you missed the 2/15 update, which was called, "Daylight Saving Time Update". earle * From ronparro at earthlink.net Mon Mar 12 00:05:24 2007 From: ronparro at earthlink.net (Ron 'Hollywood' Parro) Date: Mon Mar 12 00:05:40 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: FW: Daylight Saving Time change Hosed (Richard Klein) In-Reply-To: <20070312032953.D1F52A3CAC1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070312032953.D1F52A3CAC1@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <4ca27e79562bfadc3b2e231d9de5d900@earthlink.net> "Does anybody really know what time it is? Does anybody really care?" So there you have it... Ron 'Hollywood' Parro ;>{) http://www.greality.com/Hollywood/ "Each small victory improves the odds that you will triumph at the moment of truth." ? Pat Riley On Mar 11, 2007, at 9:29 PM, g4-request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: Richard Ramsowr wrote: > Richard and for that matter all of us who read this > site... > JUST THINK WHAT ARE PC BRETHREN ARE DOING TODAY! I Come on, man! Is that really necessary? -- Rich From: Garth Fletcher Date: March 11, 2007 11:54:16 AM MDT To: g4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com Subject: Re: [G4] FW: Daylight Saving Time change Hosed Reply-To: garth@JacqCAD.com, "A place to discuss Apple's G4 computers." I'm running 10.3.8. I'm still back on the old time as of 12:40 EST. In System Prefs / Date & Time, if I turn off automatic, then turn it back on, it updates the time to the incorrect value. From which I deduce that the problem is NOT with time.apple.com, but rather with how the value is adjusted by the local software. The relevant articles from Apple include: The upshot of which is that 10.3 - you must update to 10.3.9 to be able to update for the correct time handling 10.4 - update to at least 10.4.5 for US/Canada timing and to 10.4.8 for all regions From rmkriss at sbcglobal.net Mon Mar 12 01:55:04 2007 From: rmkriss at sbcglobal.net (Richard Kriss) Date: Mon Mar 12 01:55:14 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: Daylight Saving Stime change Hosed In-Reply-To: <20070312032954.6C6B9A3CAC5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: > From: Garth Fletcher > Subject: Re: [G4] FW: Daylight Saving Time change Hosed > To: g4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > I'm running 10.3.8. > > I'm still back on the old time as of 12:40 EST. > > In System Prefs / Date & Time, if I turn off automatic, then > turn it back on, it updates the time to the incorrect value. Garth, I had the same problem and the problem was in my Time Zone panel within the Date & Time System Preference. For some reason it was showing my location with CST. I clicked on it and it changed to DST and everything started working. If your time is hosed, double-check the Time Zone panel for DST Dick AA5VU From fsudore at mac.com Mon Mar 12 03:21:18 2007 From: fsudore at mac.com (Frank Sudore) Date: Mon Mar 12 03:21:34 2007 Subject: [G4] Getting a job / career Apple Packet In-Reply-To: <0672B467-C9A7-4AE2-97DB-44AFF9D1ADC4@mac.com> References: <20070309140010.6A698A1FE18@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <7FB29CF9-B8D8-4ACC-BF55-C1930D56C182@warpmail.net> <0672B467-C9A7-4AE2-97DB-44AFF9D1ADC4@mac.com> Message-ID: <52957E84-293C-4EE4-A320-64E45AAB114B@mac.com> Don't waste money on the "APPLE TRAINING KIT" Get the Book first, then if you have the 300 to blow get the 'KIt" The kit has out dated discs that only work with old systems. The only other thing that it gives you access to are tech articles that can be found no other sites. (Take apart etc) If you have a knowledge of how things are put together (A+ Cert0 Then the rest is easy. Best Regards, Frank Sudore APPLE SYSTEMS ENGINEER QMED CORPORATION fsudore@mac.com 954-253-1933 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070312/6345764c/attachment.html From fsudore at mac.com Mon Mar 12 03:32:56 2007 From: fsudore at mac.com (Frank Sudore) Date: Mon Mar 12 03:33:46 2007 Subject: [G4] Apple Remote Desk Top 3 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <8E3DD548-DB46-4EDA-A2C8-42A64DE4C579@mac.com> Anybody know how to un-instal ARD-3? I followed Apple's terminal commands but it still says I cannot install. Looked everywhere for hidden files. Best Regards, Frank Sudore fsudore@mac.com 954-253-1933 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070312/3f2221c5/attachment.html From dancurr at frontiernet.net Mon Mar 12 06:07:27 2007 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Mon Mar 12 06:07:38 2007 Subject: [G4] Re: Daylight Saving Stime change Hosed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45F55E9F.4080207@frontiernet.net> Hello All, My G4 MDD, my wife's iBook and my kids two beige G3's all made the jump with no problems. Maybe it is because I have the time set to the ISP and not the CPU. Dan Currie Richard Kriss wrote: >>From: Garth Fletcher >>Subject: Re: [G4] FW: Daylight Saving Time change Hosed >>To: g4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> >>I'm running 10.3.8. >> >>I'm still back on the old time as of 12:40 EST. >> >>In System Prefs / Date & Time, if I turn off automatic, then >>turn it back on, it updates the time to the incorrect value. >> >> > >Garth, I had the same problem and the problem was in my Time Zone panel >within the Date & Time System Preference. For some reason it was showing my >location with CST. I clicked on it and it changed to DST and everything >started working. > >If your time is hosed, double-check the Time Zone panel for DST > >Dick AA5VU > > >_______________________________________________ >G4 mailing list >G4@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g4 > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070312/3e12954d/attachment.html From garth at JacqCAD.com Mon Mar 12 06:18:36 2007 From: garth at JacqCAD.com (Garth Fletcher) Date: Mon Mar 12 06:19:02 2007 Subject: [G4] Daylight Saving Time - UNH fix incomplete for <10.3.9 In-Reply-To: <20070312032954.D05F5A3CAC7@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20070312032954.D05F5A3CAC7@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <45F5613C.6070704@JacqCAD.com> Harry Freeman wrote: > Mac OS X 10.3.9 and earlier Install the CIS Mac OS X TimeZone update > and that site also states: "Mac OS X prior to 10.3.9 Install the CIS Mac OS X TimeZone update" Which I did for my 10.3.8 system, and then verified the changes using zdump -v /etc/localtime | grep 2007 This does fix System Preferences/Date & Time so that it now displays the correct time - WHILE IN THAT Prefs PANE. HOWEVER, the Menu Bar clock still displays the earlier (incorrect) time and file Creation and Modification dates for files created/ modified after the patch installation (and several reboots) still use the earlier times... E.g., a file created at 9:50 per Date & Time shows in Get Info as having been created at 8:50. It seems that other components need matching patches in order to propagate the DST fix... So it seems that for 10.3.x users the only real "fix" is still to upgrade to 10.3.9. Cordially, -- Garth Fletcher From mjm at svsu.edu Tue Mar 13 08:13:52 2007 From: mjm at svsu.edu (Mark J. Miller) Date: Thu Apr 5 20:42:32 2007 Subject: [G4] How to tell if DVD has been burned? Message-ID: I'm experimenting burning DVD-R disks on an external firewire drive. I'm having problems with the burning at the moment; the burn process fails. So, what I'd like to know has the DVD actually been burned? Is there a way to tell if the burn process actually started to write on the DVD so I know I can toss the DVD after a failure? Thanks, Mark. From rmkriss at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 13 17:15:04 2007 From: rmkriss at sbcglobal.net (Richard Kriss) Date: Thu Apr 5 20:57:30 2007 Subject: [G4] Help with USA-28X Pin Assignments Message-ID: I could use some help the definition of the pin coming out of the Keyspan USA-28X USB/Serial adapter. The 28X that I have has been replaced by the newer 28xg http://www.keyspan.com/products/usa28xg/homepage.2.specs.spml and there is NO definition on the Keyspan web page. I sent three email messages and they have not responded. The reason I need to know the pin assignments is I cannot find a cable to go between mm G4 AGP 1GHz via the USA-28X with a Mini 8 DIN and my Kenwood TS-570 ham radio that has a DB-9 RS-232 connector. I tried a Newton to PC cable. It mated okay but did not work. I tried Fry's and several cable places and they all thought I was crazy asking for a Mini 8 to DB-9. My plan is to take an old Mini 8 straight through cable that came with a Mac A/B switch and cut off one end and replace it with a DB-9. I know what the Kenwood expects from the DB-25. I am clueless on the specs for the 8 pins coming out of the USA-28X. Any help will be appreciated. Dick From jester_123 at yahoo.com Fri Mar 16 17:36:09 2007 From: jester_123 at yahoo.com (Eric Hall) Date: Thu Apr 5 22:48:26 2007 Subject: [G4] Ansi C/C++ compiler needed 10.3.9 Message-ID: <615515.99207.qm@web37315.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Is there such a thing as gnu c for OS X 10.3.9? If anyone knows, could they please let me know? I need to develop a C program and would prefer my Mac to the Sun Solaris box I have here. Thank you, Eric -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070317/fb7fa25e/attachment.html From win.werner at sympatico.ca Fri Mar 16 20:13:16 2007 From: win.werner at sympatico.ca (Win werner) Date: Thu Apr 5 22:51:02 2007 Subject: [G4] desktop print 2.0 software Message-ID: I run a G4 and a photosmart 7150 printer I have a very nice address book program (older) which I would like to use I have photosmart 7150 in the chooser - printer will not print my address program " program is not apple event aware" install Desktop Print 2.0 Software - I have searched on older apple download sites - am not able to locate this software - can anyone assist? thank you win.werner@sympatico.ca From happyhlaut at yahoo.com Sun Mar 18 11:29:34 2007 From: happyhlaut at yahoo.com (Brandon Sternburg) Date: Thu Apr 5 23:29:31 2007 Subject: [G4] Issues with my lucky find on saint patricks day. Message-ID: <20070318182928.91815.qmail@web52803.mail.re2.yahoo.com> I found one of those dusty old g4 gems lying in someones basement. it's a family number M5183 g4 sawtooth. it is quite the beefy system already with all the ram slots full, two hard drives, a dvd writer and what appears to potentially be a third party G4 upgrade. (maybe 1ghz) I wish i knew more but my issue is that it is not giving signal to the monitor!! The machine starts up with a green light in front(not sure if this is the average color) it makes the start up tone and it sounds as it it's running perfectly. But for some reason the video is not making it to the monitor (which stinks because a massive 21' studio display came with this thing.) I have also noticed there is no power making it to the keyboard and mouse either until sometimes after startup which means i can't zap the pram or do any other keyboard combos to mess with it. What i've done so far was to repace the video card with a newer model ati agp but no help. I've hit the internal NVram button and also no change still cannot power the mouse and keyboard ut strangely the power button does start it up but after the tone everything goes lame. anyone have any suggestions?!? ____________________________________________________________________________________ Need Mail bonding? Go to the Yahoo! Mail Q&A for great tips from Yahoo! Answers users. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396546091 From dancurr at frontiernet.net Sun Mar 18 17:57:46 2007 From: dancurr at frontiernet.net (Dan A Currie) Date: Thu Apr 5 23:37:22 2007 Subject: [G4] G3 / G4 ? Message-ID: <45FDDFF9.5020707@frontiernet.net> Hello All, I have a very interesting question for you all. I recently purchased this: an APPLE POWER MAC G4 400 MHz, ZIF Chip. Works in the G3 BEIGE OR B/W MACS and Sawtooth G4's. IN GOOD WORKKING CONDITION. You will need to move the plastic jumpers on the motherboard. www.apple.com will assist in this process. Sample photo used. Pulled from a Working G4 400Mhz, Sawtooth G4. Well, I installed it in my daughters Beige GE MT 333 and it works ... sort of. When I go to system profiler it says under Processor G4 / 333. Now I paid a whopping $75 for the entire computer 2 years ago so i am not too worried about voiding a warranty. What would be a reasonable speed to overclock the Mac and exactly (talking to a 3 year old here) how does one go about that OR would it be better to reinstall my old Sonnet G3/500 processor?? TIA, Dan -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/g4/attachments/20070319/b2eb1f94/attachment.html From r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net Tue Mar 20 23:53:03 2007 From: r.ramsowr at sbcglobal.net (Richard Ramsowr) Date: Fri Apr 6 01:08:04 2007 Subject: [G4] Where has everyon gone... Message-ID: <876134.44222.qm@web81412.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Yo Is it me or has everyone dropped of the globe? I haven't had a single eMail from the group sence March 11th... What gives/ therepguy Houston From marcomayer1 at yahoo.com Thu Mar 22 06:36:43 2007 From: marcomayer1 at yahoo.com (marco santos) Date: Fri Apr 6 01:55:57 2007 Subject: [G4] PROBLEMS INSTALLING OS 9 Message-ID: <20070322133644.40289.qmail@web58704.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hello, I hope somebody will be able to help me on thi matter because I have been struggling over this for two weeks. My profile: Powermac G4 AGP Graphic 450 Mhz (Sawtooth) Running OS X Panther 10.3.9 I bought an processor upgrade for my computer @ OWC. It's a Dual 1.0 Ghz. When I started the process to install it, I got a message saying I had to upgrade my firmware (now I don't remember to what version). So, I borrowed an OS 9 original disk from a friend of mine that owns an old imac, but I couldn't install it on my computer. After I boot from the disk and after OS 9 starts and loads all the drivers BUMMM , I don't know what happens, the thing is the computer just stops (not frozen). I can move the mouse, but I can't go anywhere, there is no option on the screen for me to access. I heard that I have to use the original disk for Powermac G4, so I got one from another friend that owns a Quicksilver (G4 750 Mhz) and same thing happened. Now I don't know what to do. I went to Apple Store and support guys told they don't sell it any more. And, so far I couldn't install the processor upgrade I bought, it's frustrating! Need help...Please! Thank you and may God bless you Marco Antonio dos Santos From briang113 at pacbell.net Fri Mar 23 18:05:31 2007 From: briang113 at pacbell.net (B G) Date: Fri Apr 6 02:49:20 2007 Subject: [G4] Hello List In-Reply-To: <45F5613C.6070704@JacqCAD.com> References: <20070312032954.D05F5A3CAC7@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <45F5613C.6070704@JacqCAD.com> Message-ID: <746543FD-607F-4A40-A915-59357C4E8416@pacbell.net> 2 weeks no postings is the sever down 3/23/06 6:00 PM PDT Brian G4 gigE 1.0 GHz Powerlogix, 1 GB RAM From krparks at sbcglobal.net Sat Mar 24 11:53:31 2007 From: krparks at sbcglobal.net (kr parks) Date: Fri Apr 6 03:13:40 2007 Subject: [G4] Video Problem Message-ID: <649756.89422.qm@web83403.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hello: I am having a very strange problem with my G4 (733 Digtal). It is displaying only black and white images, pictures look as though they are film negatives. This only occurs when I boot from a certain drive. When using another drive everything appears fine. I have 10.2.8 installed on both bootable drives. I have tried to run disk utility but it seems to think that the drive is in use when I try to check it, even though I have booted from the other and started no programs. It started all of a sudden, not after any changes were made. Does anyone know what is going on? Thanks, Kevin From knaffc at bellsouth.net Sat Mar 24 14:38:00 2007 From: knaffc at bellsouth.net (Calvin Knaff) Date: Fri Apr 6 03:16:40 2007 Subject: [G4] G4 mailing list Message-ID: <4164CA19-3F65-4483-8D8A-785E20278DCE@bellsouth.net> What has happened to G4, list, have I been canceled or something. I have not received any messages in a week. Thank you Calvin Knaff knaffc@bellsouth.net From marcomayer1 at yahoo.com Sat Mar 24 20:29:34 2007 From: marcomayer1 at yahoo.com (marco santos) Date: Fri Apr 6 03:24:08 2007 Subject: [G4] Problems installing OS 9 Message-ID: <559116.55517.qm@web58709.mail.re1.yahoo.com> Hello, I hope somebody will be able to help me on thi matter because I have been struggling over this for two weeks. My profile: Powermac G4 AGP Graphic 450 Mhz (Sawtooth) Running OS X Panther 10.3.9 I bought an processor upgrade for my computer @ OWC. It's a Dual 1.0 Ghz. When I started the process to install it, I got a message saying I had to upgrade my firmware (now I don't remember to what version). So, I borrowed an OS 9 original disk from a friend of mine that owns an old imac, but I couldn't install it on my computer. After I boot from the disk and after OS 9 starts and loads all the drivers BUMMM , I don't know what happens, the thing is the computer just stops (not frozen). I can move the mouse, but I can't go anywhere, there is no option on the screen for me to access. I heard that I have to use the original disk for Powermac G4, so I got one from another friend that owns a Quicksilver (G4 750 Mhz) and same thing happened. Now I don't know what to do. I went to Apple Store and support guys told they don't sell it any more. And, so far I couldn't install the processor upgrade I bought, it's frustrating! Need help...Please! Thank you and may God bless you Marco Antonio dos Santos Thank you and may God bless you Marco Antonio dos Santos From skenn at earthlink.net Sun Mar 25 10:10:37 2007 From: skenn at earthlink.net (S. Kennedy) Date: Fri Apr 6 03:39:41 2007 Subject: [G4] Test Message-ID: <20070325131037699276.8a91359b@earthlink.net> I haven't received anything since 3/12 so I suspect something is wrong. This is just a test. From Badhawk at comcast.net Tue Mar 27 14:53:54 2007 From: Badhawk at comcast.net (Warren Hemple) Date: Fri Apr 6 04:54:59 2007 Subject: [G4] Help Message-ID: After 10.3.9 I get this when I try to log on to myspace.com G4 533 512 meg Ram digital audio Server Error in '/' Application. Runtime Error Description: An application error occurred on the server. The current custom error settings for this application prevent the details of the application error from being viewed remotely (for security reasons). It could, however, be viewed by browsers running on the local server machine. Details: To enable the details of this specific error message to be viewable on remote machines, please create a tag within a "web.config" configuration file located in the root directory of the current web application. This tag should then have its "mode" attribute set to "Off". Notes: The current error page you are seeing can be replaced by a custom error page by modifying the "defaultRedirect" attribute of the application's configuration tag to point to a custom error page URL. From dancurr at frontiernet.net Tue Mar 27 17:29:55 2007 From: