<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><font face="Helvetica" size="3" color="#000000" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica; color: #000000"><b>Subject: </b></font><font face="Helvetica" size="3" style="font: 12.0px Helvetica"><b>Re: [G4] Nostalgia's not what it used to be, en-it ?</b></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-right: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; margin-left: 0px; "><br></div></blockquote><br><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-text-stroke-width: -1; ">Ok I'll try again</span></blockquote></div><div>snip</div><div><br></div><div>For what its worth, I am still getting your messages on the G4 list. I don't have an answer, but will look for one. There is a difference between the Open Firmware resets and the Firmware updater. As I understand it, Open Firmware is the base on which Mac OSX is built. Firmware is the basic instruction set that controls the boot process. The OF resets restore startup instructions to original in case something gets corrupted. The Firmware Update actually changes the basic operation of the machine, similar to a bios change on a PC. </div><div><br></div><div>Try going back to just your original drive and computer setup (remove all extra cards and add ons except for memory). If you can get the machine to boot, do the Open firmware Resets at that point. If the machine then works ok (give it a pretty good workout), check to see if it needs a firmware update (<a href="http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1395">http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1395</a>). If it does, follow the instructions carefully. Once that is done and the basic computer is working properly, you can start adding things back in to determine when it gets goofy. That will give you a starting point for the other problems.</div><div><br></div><div>Dan T</div></body></html>