From patdart at cox.net Tue Jan 3 18:13:01 2006 From: patdart at cox.net (Pat) Date: Tue Jan 3 18:13:02 2006 Subject: [G5] iTunes to MP3 files... Message-ID: <70fd105a007d8731fa4ce0e639589529@cox.net> Does anyone have any idea if and how I can export a song from iTunes to an MP3 file? Pat From rhazelrigg at earthlink.net Tue Jan 3 18:58:32 2006 From: rhazelrigg at earthlink.net (Robert Hazelrigg) Date: Tue Jan 3 18:58:37 2006 Subject: [G5] iTunes to MP3 files... In-Reply-To: <70fd105a007d8731fa4ce0e639589529@cox.net> References: <70fd105a007d8731fa4ce0e639589529@cox.net> Message-ID: create and audio cd. then change your itunes preferences. go to Pref/ advanced/importing. switch inmport using to MP3 encoder. then re-rip the the new audio cd you just made. On Jan 3, 2006, at 9:13 PM, Pat wrote: > Does anyone have any idea if and how I can export a song from > iTunes to an MP3 file? > > Pat > > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From eslerj at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 06:37:33 2006 From: eslerj at gmail.com (Joel Esler) Date: Wed Jan 4 06:37:37 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts Message-ID: <8c643a500601040637hf1da6d1nbd489cd8044162f8@mail.gmail.com> I am guessing by the lack of posts in this forum, that pretty much everyone is happy with their PowerMacs :)? J From jbunn at woh.rr.com Wed Jan 4 06:39:00 2006 From: jbunn at woh.rr.com (Jerry Bunn) Date: Wed Jan 4 06:39:05 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts In-Reply-To: <8c643a500601040637hf1da6d1nbd489cd8044162f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c643a500601040637hf1da6d1nbd489cd8044162f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2348235b2f731352fbf23708ed4e976c@woh.rr.com> Yepper! :) On Jan 4, 2006, at 9:37 AM, Joel Esler wrote: > I am guessing by the lack of posts in this forum, that pretty much > everyone is happy with their PowerMacs :)? > > J > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From nickscalise at cox.net Wed Jan 4 06:48:56 2006 From: nickscalise at cox.net (Nick Scalise) Date: Wed Jan 4 06:50:46 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts Message-ID: <20060104144828.ZRMG8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> > From: Joel Esler > > I am guessing by the lack of posts in this forum, that pretty much > everyone is happy with their PowerMacs :)? I am. -- Nick Scalise nickscalise@cox.net From eslerj at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 06:57:49 2006 From: eslerj at gmail.com (Joel Esler) Date: Wed Jan 4 06:57:54 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts In-Reply-To: <20060104144828.ZRMG8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> References: <20060104144828.ZRMG8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> Message-ID: <53886C37-0557-431B-8363-A139C98CD8C0@gmail.com> I am too. I think it's a fantastic computer. However, I have noticed a RAM issue. I have 2.5 Gs of RAM in my Dual 2.0, and I have noticed that after I boot and start my regular programs, (Mail, iTunes, VPN Client, and Adium. I have about 1500M free. However, after running it for a few days, starting a quitting a few programs. (Terminal, Entourage, Safari, Firefox..) Right now I am sitting at 680M free, basically I have noticed that some RAM is getting caught out there somewhere, any thoughts? J On Jan 4, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Nick Scalise wrote: >> From: Joel Esler >> >> I am guessing by the lack of posts in this forum, that pretty much >> everyone is happy with their PowerMacs :)? > > I am. > > -- > Nick Scalise > nickscalise@cox.net > > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From baron58 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 4 07:05:10 2006 From: baron58 at sbcglobal.net (Jack) Date: Wed Jan 4 07:04:47 2006 Subject: [G5] No Mic no mas In-Reply-To: <20060104144828.ZRMG8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> References: <20060104144828.ZRMG8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> Message-ID: <43BBE426.1010402@sbcglobal.net> I can't get a microphone to work with my G5 Power Mac. A stereo mic which is proved to work with my PC does not produce any measurable input. It is a standard stereo mini-plug device that does work with other audio devices. A momentary jump is seen in the sound input level when first plugged in, or removed, but it does not pick up voice or other environmental sounds. The mic is turned on and input level is set at max. Jack From nickscalise at cox.net Wed Jan 4 07:03:07 2006 From: nickscalise at cox.net (Nick Scalise) Date: Wed Jan 4 07:05:00 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts Message-ID: <20060104150239.ZXHN8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> > From: Joel Esler > Date: 2006/01/04 Wed AM 09:57:49 EST > To: "A place to discuss Apple's G5 computers." > Subject: Re: [G5] Lack of Posts > > I am too. I think it's a fantastic computer. However, I have > noticed a RAM issue. I have 2.5 Gs of RAM in my Dual 2.0, and I have > noticed that after I boot and start my regular programs, (Mail, > iTunes, VPN Client, and Adium. I have about 1500M free. However, > after running it for a few days, starting a quitting a few programs. > (Terminal, Entourage, Safari, Firefox..) Right now I am sitting at > 680M free, basically I have noticed that some RAM is getting caught > out there somewhere, any thoughts? Is this even after a logout? -- Nick Scalise nickscalise@cox.net From eslerj at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 07:06:05 2006 From: eslerj at gmail.com (Joel Esler) Date: Wed Jan 4 07:06:10 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts In-Reply-To: <20060104150239.ZXHN8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> References: <20060104150239.ZXHN8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> Message-ID: <666AB571-6AB5-46F4-855B-B661AE63E348@gmail.com> I don't logout, so I can't say.. J On Jan 4, 2006, at 10:03 AM, Nick Scalise wrote: >> From: Joel Esler >> Date: 2006/01/04 Wed AM 09:57:49 EST >> To: "A place to discuss Apple's G5 computers." > >> Subject: Re: [G5] Lack of Posts >> >> I am too. I think it's a fantastic computer. However, I have >> noticed a RAM issue. I have 2.5 Gs of RAM in my Dual 2.0, and I have >> noticed that after I boot and start my regular programs, (Mail, >> iTunes, VPN Client, and Adium. I have about 1500M free. However, >> after running it for a few days, starting a quitting a few programs. >> (Terminal, Entourage, Safari, Firefox..) Right now I am sitting at >> 680M free, basically I have noticed that some RAM is getting caught >> out there somewhere, any thoughts? > > Is this even after a logout? > > -- > Nick Scalise > nickscalise@cox.net > > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From eslerj at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 07:06:30 2006 From: eslerj at gmail.com (Joel Esler) Date: Wed Jan 4 07:06:34 2006 Subject: [G5] No Mic no mas In-Reply-To: <43BBE426.1010402@sbcglobal.net> References: <20060104144828.ZRMG8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> <43BBE426.1010402@sbcglobal.net> Message-ID: <4C34A976-57C2-43EF-AC2A-0F1325E37DF0@gmail.com> Do you have it plugged into the "Line-in Jack"? J On Jan 4, 2006, at 10:05 AM, Jack wrote: > I can't get a microphone to work with my G5 Power Mac. > > A stereo mic which is proved to work with my PC does not produce > any measurable input. It is a standard stereo mini-plug device that > does work with other audio devices. A momentary jump is seen in the > sound input level when first plugged in, or removed, but it does > not pick up voice or other environmental sounds. > > The mic is turned on and input level is set at max. > > > Jack > > > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From baron58 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jan 4 07:10:21 2006 From: baron58 at sbcglobal.net (Jack) Date: Wed Jan 4 07:09:58 2006 Subject: [G5] No Mic no mas In-Reply-To: <4C34A976-57C2-43EF-AC2A-0F1325E37DF0@gmail.com> References: <20060104144828.ZRMG8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> <43BBE426.1010402@sbcglobal.net> <4C34A976-57C2-43EF-AC2A-0F1325E37DF0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <43BBE55D.3060401@sbcglobal.net> Joel Esler wrote: > Do you have it plugged into the "Line-in Jack"? > probably. are there two input jacks (analog)? Jack > J > On Jan 4, 2006, at 10:05 AM, Jack wrote: > >> I can't get a microphone to work with my G5 Power Mac. >> >> A stereo mic which is proved to work with my PC does not produce any >> measurable input. It is a standard stereo mini-plug device that does >> work with other audio devices. A momentary jump is seen in the sound >> input level when first plugged in, or removed, but it does not pick >> up voice or other environmental sounds. >> >> The mic is turned on and input level is set at max. >> >> >> Jack >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> G5 mailing list >> G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From nickscalise at cox.net Wed Jan 4 07:21:47 2006 From: nickscalise at cox.net (Nick Scalise) Date: Wed Jan 4 07:23:38 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts Message-ID: <20060104152156.KXJJ5868.centrmmtao05.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> > From: Joel Esler > > I don't logout, so I can't say.. Logouts work wonders, almost as nice as rebooting. -- Nick Scalise nickscalise@cox.net From jbunn at woh.rr.com Wed Jan 4 07:38:27 2006 From: jbunn at woh.rr.com (Jerry Bunn) Date: Wed Jan 4 07:38:31 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts In-Reply-To: <20060104152156.KXJJ5868.centrmmtao05.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> References: <20060104152156.KXJJ5868.centrmmtao05.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> Message-ID: Logout? Call me dumb, but what is logout? On Jan 4, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Nick Scalise wrote: >> From: Joel Esler >> >> I don't logout, so I can't say.. > > Logouts work wonders, almost as nice as rebooting. > > > -- > Nick Scalise > nickscalise@cox.net > > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From eslerj at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 07:51:07 2006 From: eslerj at gmail.com (Joel Esler) Date: Wed Jan 4 07:51:12 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts In-Reply-To: References: <20060104152156.KXJJ5868.centrmmtao05.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> Message-ID: <3A096E44-A09D-4EA6-8FF6-2F5995E23D11@gmail.com> Apple Menu -> Log out. On Jan 4, 2006, at 10:38 AM, Jerry Bunn wrote: > Logout? > Call me dumb, but what is logout? > > > On Jan 4, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Nick Scalise wrote: > >>> From: Joel Esler >>> >>> I don't logout, so I can't say.. >> >> Logouts work wonders, almost as nice as rebooting. >> >> >> -- >> Nick Scalise >> nickscalise@cox.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> G5 mailing list >> G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >> > > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From jbunn at woh.rr.com Wed Jan 4 07:53:27 2006 From: jbunn at woh.rr.com (Jerry Bunn) Date: Wed Jan 4 07:53:31 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts In-Reply-To: <3A096E44-A09D-4EA6-8FF6-2F5995E23D11@gmail.com> References: <20060104152156.KXJJ5868.centrmmtao05.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> <3A096E44-A09D-4EA6-8FF6-2F5995E23D11@gmail.com> Message-ID: <97f18a96f824e9b31105a1c567bada04@woh.rr.com> Oh, yea, duh. I knew that. However, I'm not sure I remember my password to log back in. Hhhmmmm On Jan 4, 2006, at 10:51 AM, Joel Esler wrote: > Apple Menu -> Log out. > > > On Jan 4, 2006, at 10:38 AM, Jerry Bunn wrote: > >> Logout? >> Call me dumb, but what is logout? >> >> >> On Jan 4, 2006, at 10:21 AM, Nick Scalise wrote: >> >>>> From: Joel Esler >>>> >>>> I don't logout, so I can't say.. >>> >>> Logouts work wonders, almost as nice as rebooting. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Nick Scalise >>> nickscalise@cox.net >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> G5 mailing list >>> G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 >>> >>> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >>> stuff: >>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> G5 mailing list >> G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From healyzh at aracnet.com Wed Jan 4 08:51:04 2006 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Wed Jan 4 08:51:10 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts In-Reply-To: <53886C37-0557-431B-8363-A139C98CD8C0@gmail.com> References: <20060104144828.ZRMG8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> <53886C37-0557-431B-8363-A139C98CD8C0@gmail.com> Message-ID: At 9:57 AM -0500 1/4/06, Joel Esler wrote: >I am too. I think it's a fantastic computer. However, I have >noticed a RAM issue. I have 2.5 Gs of RAM in my Dual 2.0, and I >have noticed that after I boot and start my regular programs, (Mail, >iTunes, VPN Client, and Adium. I have about 1500M free. However, >after running it for a few days, starting a quitting a few programs. >(Terminal, Entourage, Safari, Firefox..) Right now I am sitting at >680M free, basically I have noticed that some RAM is getting caught >out there somewhere, any thoughts? Well, my basic thought on the subject isn't very constructive, and that is that Memory Management on Mac OS X *SUCKS*! Having gotten that out of my system, one thing that I've noticed is that Safari basically doesn't release memory, it just keeps steadily increasing the amount of RAM that it uses, the longer it's running. The only way to totally reclaim that memory is to quit out of Safari. Another application that I run into issues with is iPhoto, the memory requirements for it can be downright *insane*! iPhoto is the reason that I upgraded my Dual 2Ghz from 1.5GB to 3.5GB of RAM. Prior to upgrading the RAM, it had reached the point where starting iPhoto would cripple, if not totally lock up my system (to the point where it had to be powered off, as it was totally unresponsive). I think there are a few other programs that are also guilty of using steadily more RAM, but Safari is the main one I've noticed. On an interesting note, I've also noticed that the longer that MS Word '04 is running, the more CPU it seems to use. The irritating thing for me is that I expect to start a computer, log in, fire up the programs I use and leave everything running till the next power outage, unless I have to reboot for patches. I have other systems that stay up for well over a year if allowed to, but with Mac OS X, I'm actually doing good to have the system up for as long as I used to keep my G4/450 AGP (it was part of the first shipment of G4's to dealers) running Mac OS 9 up. BTW, logging out is as unacceptable as having to reboot the system. Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh@aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | From garykimes at mac.com Wed Jan 4 09:07:26 2006 From: garykimes at mac.com (Gary Kimes) Date: Wed Jan 4 09:09:40 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts In-Reply-To: <53886C37-0557-431B-8363-A139C98CD8C0@gmail.com> References: <20060104144828.ZRMG8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> <53886C37-0557-431B-8363-A139C98CD8C0@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Jan 4, 2006, at 6:57 AM, Joel Esler wrote: > I am too. I think it's a fantastic computer. However, I have > noticed a RAM issue. I have 2.5 Gs of RAM in my Dual 2.0, and I > have noticed that after I boot and start my regular programs, > (Mail, iTunes, VPN Client, and Adium. I have about 1500M free. > However, after running it for a few days, starting a quitting a few > programs. (Terminal, Entourage, Safari, Firefox..) Right now I am > sitting at 680M free, basically I have noticed that some RAM is > getting caught out there somewhere, any thoughts? > > J > > > On Jan 4, 2006, at 9:48 AM, Nick Scalise wrote: > >>> From: Joel Esler >>> >>> I am guessing by the lack of posts in this forum, that pretty much >>> everyone is happy with their PowerMacs :)? >> >> I am. >> >> -- >> Nick Scalise >> nickscalise@cox.net >> >> _______________________________________________ >> G5 mailing list >> G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 Gary Running Tiger 4.2 on G5 DP 2GB Tower 1GB ram 150GB HD 20" Cinema LCD - G4 1.25ghz FW 800 Aluminum PowerBook - Airport & Airport Express - Epson 1280 Printer - Epson 1640 Scanner - External 160G Maxtor HD From garykimes at mac.com Wed Jan 4 09:10:00 2006 From: garykimes at mac.com (Gary Kimes) Date: Wed Jan 4 09:12:15 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts In-Reply-To: <8c643a500601040637hf1da6d1nbd489cd8044162f8@mail.gmail.com> References: <8c643a500601040637hf1da6d1nbd489cd8044162f8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <0791AC1B-2F0D-4BCD-B2A3-1D9820EF9D39@mac.com> BTW where does one go to check for the size of an individual piece of mail? On Jan 4, 2006, at 6:37 AM, Joel Esler wrote: > I am guessing by the lack of posts in this forum, that pretty much > everyone is happy with their PowerMacs :)? > > J > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 Gary Running Tiger 4.2 on G5 DP 2GB Tower 1GB ram 150GB HD 20" Cinema LCD - G4 1.25ghz FW 800 Aluminum PowerBook - Airport & Airport Express - Epson 1280 Printer - Epson 1640 Scanner - External 160G Maxtor HD From eslerj at gmail.com Wed Jan 4 09:23:27 2006 From: eslerj at gmail.com (Joel Esler) Date: Wed Jan 4 09:23:32 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts In-Reply-To: <0791AC1B-2F0D-4BCD-B2A3-1D9820EF9D39@mac.com> References: <8c643a500601040637hf1da6d1nbd489cd8044162f8@mail.gmail.com> <0791AC1B-2F0D-4BCD-B2A3-1D9820EF9D39@mac.com> Message-ID: <27D64DAD-AF42-435F-89F6-8EA1588ED7C9@gmail.com> Gary, In Mail, go to View -> Columns -> Size. Then you can view all the sizes you'd like. J On Jan 4, 2006, at 12:10 PM, Gary Kimes wrote: > BTW where does one go to check for the size of an individual piece > of mail? > > > > > On Jan 4, 2006, at 6:37 AM, Joel Esler wrote: > >> I am guessing by the lack of posts in this forum, that pretty much >> everyone is happy with their PowerMacs :)? >> >> J >> _______________________________________________ >> G5 mailing list >> G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > Gary > > Running Tiger 4.2 on G5 DP 2GB Tower 1GB ram 150GB HD 20" Cinema > LCD - G4 1.25ghz FW 800 Aluminum PowerBook - Airport & Airport > Express - Epson 1280 Printer - Epson 1640 Scanner - External 160G > Maxtor HD > > > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From garykimes at mac.com Wed Jan 4 09:45:01 2006 From: garykimes at mac.com (Gary Kimes) Date: Wed Jan 4 09:47:16 2006 Subject: [G5] RAM allocation In-Reply-To: References: <20060104144828.ZRMG8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> <53886C37-0557-431B-8363-A139C98CD8C0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <21106D09-34B4-4319-8BD3-419315DB773F@mac.com> What is the easiest way to monitor RAM allocation? -Gary On Jan 4, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote: > At 9:57 AM -0500 1/4/06, Joel Esler wrote: >> I am too. I think it's a fantastic computer. However, I have >> noticed a RAM issue. I have 2.5 Gs of RAM in my Dual 2.0, and I >> have noticed that after I boot and start my regular programs, >> (Mail, iTunes, VPN Client, and Adium. I have about 1500M free. >> However, after running it for a few days, starting a quitting a >> few programs. >> (Terminal, Entourage, Safari, Firefox..) Right now I am sitting at >> 680M free, basically I have noticed that some RAM is getting >> caught out there somewhere, any thoughts? > > Well, my basic thought on the subject isn't very constructive, and > that is that Memory Management on Mac OS X *SUCKS*! > > Having gotten that out of my system, one thing that I've noticed is > that Safari basically doesn't release memory, it just keeps > steadily increasing the amount of RAM that it uses, the longer it's > running. The only way to totally reclaim that memory is to quit out > of Safari. > > Another application that I run into issues with is iPhoto, the > memory requirements for it can be downright *insane*! iPhoto is > the reason that I upgraded my Dual 2Ghz from 1.5GB to 3.5GB of > RAM. Prior to upgrading the RAM, it had reached the point where > starting iPhoto would cripple, if not totally lock up my system (to > the point where it had to be powered off, as it was totally > unresponsive). > > I think there are a few other programs that are also guilty of > using steadily more RAM, but Safari is the main one I've noticed. > On an interesting note, I've also noticed that the longer that MS > Word '04 is running, the more CPU it seems to use. > > The irritating thing for me is that I expect to start a computer, > log in, fire up the programs I use and leave everything running > till the next power outage, unless I have to reboot for patches. I > have other systems that stay up for well over a year if allowed to, > but with Mac OS X, I'm actually doing good to have the system up > for as long as I used to keep my G4/450 AGP (it was part of the > first shipment of G4's to dealers) running Mac OS 9 up. > > BTW, logging out is as unacceptable as having to reboot the system. > > Zane > > > -- > -- > | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | > | healyzh@aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | > | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | > +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ > | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | > | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | > | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From nickscalise at cox.net Wed Jan 4 09:55:03 2006 From: nickscalise at cox.net (Nick Scalise) Date: Wed Jan 4 09:56:54 2006 Subject: [G5] RAM allocation Message-ID: <20060104175643.IGJC8484.centrmmtao02.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> > From: Gary Kimes > > What is the easiest way to monitor RAM allocation? -Gary Activity Monitor.app - In your Utilities folder. MenuMeters - download from here: http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/menumeters/ 'Do I Need More Memory': http://www.hillmanminx.net/dinmm/ -- Nick Scalise nickscalise@cox.net From pjrobar at areyoureallythatstupid.org Wed Jan 4 14:52:22 2006 From: pjrobar at areyoureallythatstupid.org (Philip J Robar) Date: Wed Jan 4 14:52:32 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts In-Reply-To: References: <20060104144828.ZRMG8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> <53886C37-0557-431B-8363-A139C98CD8C0@gmail.com> Message-ID: On Jan 4, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote: > Well, my basic thought on the subject isn't very constructive, and > that is that Memory Management on Mac OS X *SUCKS*! Agreed on both counts. I've seen articles talking about how poorly OS X handles memory and other fundamental system management tasks. For instance, if I recall correctly, anandtech.com compared OS X and Linux on the same Mac and found Linux to be significantly faster. While the tests had their problems, I think they clearly showed that the OS X folks have some work to do. > Having gotten that out of my system, one thing that I've noticed is > that Safari basically doesn't release memory, it just keeps > steadily increasing the amount of RAM that it uses, the longer it's > running. The only way to totally reclaim that memory is to quit out > of Safari. Yup, Safari is a pig, to the point that I have stopped using it in favor of Firefox and maybe Opera. Helping me make the switch was the fact that Safari doesn't seen to handle AJAX enabled sites at all - at least the one that I visit daily. Phil From wiswp at niue.nu Wed Jan 4 15:04:04 2006 From: wiswp at niue.nu (Bill Wisse) Date: Wed Jan 4 15:05:17 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts In-Reply-To: References: <20060104144828.ZRMG8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> <53886C37-0557-431B-8363-A139C98CD8C0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <1057CFDD-FBF7-4B0A-B87E-E398926A5E83@niue.nu> On Jan 4, 2006, at 11:52, Philip J Robar wrote: >> Having gotten that out of my system, one thing that I've noticed >> is that Safari basically doesn't release memory, it just keeps >> steadily increasing the amount of RAM that it uses, the longer >> it's running. The only way to totally reclaim that memory is to >> quit out of Safari. Firefox , Camino and Opera, they all have this same problem. (at least on my iMac G5), latest Tiger. Greetings from /bill at 169 west , 19 south. Disclaimer: Any errors in spelling, tact, or fact are transmission errors From healyzh at aracnet.com Wed Jan 4 16:11:34 2006 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Wed Jan 4 16:11:44 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts In-Reply-To: References: <20060104144828.ZRMG8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> <53886C37-0557-431B-8363-A139C98CD8C0@gmail.com> Message-ID: At 2:52 PM -0800 1/4/06, Philip J Robar wrote: >On Jan 4, 2006, at 8:51 AM, Zane H. Healy wrote: > >>Well, my basic thought on the subject isn't very constructive, and >>that is that Memory Management on Mac OS X *SUCKS*! > >Agreed on both counts. I've seen articles talking about how poorly >OS X handles memory and other fundamental system management tasks. >For instance, if I recall correctly, anandtech.com compared OS X and >Linux on the same Mac and found Linux to be significantly faster. >While the tests had their problems, I think they clearly showed that >the OS X folks have some work to do. I think it was anandtech.com that did that, it was a rather interesting and disturbing article. I've a bad feeling that the switch to Intel is going to be rather embarrassing for Mac OS X, things won't be looking good for Apple if Windows XP blows them away on the exact same hardware. Don't take that the wrong way, as I actually am looking forwards to Mac's running on Intel CPU's, I just think it's going to strip the facade that Apple has been hiding rotten performance behind away. As for fundamental system management tasks, you don't want to get me started on NetInfo! At the same time, I will admit that some of the memory problems might be due to some of the applications, but when one of those applications is iPhoto... >Yup, Safari is a pig, to the point that I have stopped using it in >favor of Firefox and maybe Opera. Helping me make the switch was the >fact that Safari doesn't seen to handle AJAX enabled sites at all - >at least the one that I visit daily. What is helping me to start using Firefox on Mac OS X (I already use it on Linux at work), is that Safari keeps crashing when I try to access pages on Wired.com. Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh@aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | From jwilson166 at comcast.net Wed Jan 4 18:02:40 2006 From: jwilson166 at comcast.net (John Wilson) Date: Wed Jan 4 18:02:45 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts In-Reply-To: References: <20060104144828.ZRMG8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> <53886C37-0557-431B-8363-A139C98CD8C0@gmail.com> Message-ID: <2DBB00C1-062A-4099-8125-91AF88B2CF75@comcast.net> > > What is helping me to start using Firefox on Mac OS X (I already > use it on Linux at work), is that Safari keeps crashing when I try > to access pages on Wired.com. > > Zane I have no problems opening Wired.com webpages and links using Safari. I'm using a G5 1.8 mHZ DP with 3 gigs of RAM. John From healyzh at aracnet.com Wed Jan 4 23:23:03 2006 From: healyzh at aracnet.com (Zane H. Healy) Date: Wed Jan 4 23:23:10 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts In-Reply-To: <2DBB00C1-062A-4099-8125-91AF88B2CF75@comcast.net> References: <20060104144828.ZRMG8318.centrmmtao04.cox.net@[172.18.53.8]> <53886C37-0557-431B-8363-A139C98CD8C0@gmail.com> <2DBB00C1-062A-4099-8125-91AF88B2CF75@comcast.net> Message-ID: At 9:02 PM -0500 1/4/06, John Wilson wrote: >>What is helping me to start using Firefox on Mac OS X (I already >>use it on Linux at work), is that Safari keeps crashing when I try >>to access pages on Wired.com. >> >> Zane >I have no problems opening Wired.com webpages and links using >Safari. I'm using a G5 1.8 mHZ DP with 3 gigs of RAM. John Are you running 10.3 or 10.4? I'm still running 10.3.9, as for me 10.4 does more harm than good. Zane -- -- | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | | healyzh@aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | From jwilson166 at comcast.net Thu Jan 5 05:31:27 2006 From: jwilson166 at comcast.net (jwilson166@comcast.net) Date: Thu Jan 5 05:31:33 2006 Subject: [G5] Lack of Posts Message-ID: <010520061331.19208.43BD1FAF000DD03D00004B082200734830C0C0CE02019C04079906@comcast.net> 10.4. -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "Zane H. Healy" > At 9:02 PM -0500 1/4/06, John Wilson wrote: > >>What is helping me to start using Firefox on Mac OS X (I already > >>use it on Linux at work), is that Safari keeps crashing when I try > >>to access pages on Wired.com. > >> > >> Zane > >I have no problems opening Wired.com webpages and links using > >Safari. I'm using a G5 1.8 mHZ DP with 3 gigs of RAM. John > > Are you running 10.3 or 10.4? I'm still running 10.3.9, as for me > 10.4 does more harm than good. > > Zane > > > -- > -- > | Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Administrator | > | healyzh@aracnet.com (primary) | OpenVMS Enthusiast | > | MONK::HEALYZH (DECnet) | Classic Computer Collector | > +----------------------------------+----------------------------+ > | Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, | > | PDP-10 Emulation and Zane's Computer Museum. | > | http://www.aracnet.com/~healyzh/ | > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From globetrotterdk at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 07:30:37 2006 From: globetrotterdk at gmail.com (Brian Durant) Date: Fri Jan 13 07:30:39 2006 Subject: [G5] Kubuntu on G5 single? Message-ID: <2552fa090601130730q15b81684of7181d4c0f4cf991@mail.gmail.com> Hej, Has anyone gotten Ubuntu or Kubuntu installed and running or gotten a "live CD" to work with a G5? I have tried the latest 2 versions of the "live CD" from Ubuntu/Kubuntu and haven't even been able to boot-up, as they freeze solid during startup. I am hoping to eventually to install Kubuntu on my internal hard disc #2. Cheers, Brian From jwilson166 at comcast.net Fri Jan 13 08:18:57 2006 From: jwilson166 at comcast.net (jwilson166@comcast.net) Date: Fri Jan 13 08:19:11 2006 Subject: [G5] Kubuntu on G5 single? Message-ID: <011320061618.20573.43C7D2F100053A510000505D2200761064C0C0CE02019C04079906@comcast.net> I've got it running on my 1.8 mHZ DP. Don't much like it though. John -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Brian Durant > Hej, > > Has anyone gotten Ubuntu or Kubuntu installed and running or gotten a > "live CD" to work with a G5? I have tried the latest 2 versions of the > "live CD" from Ubuntu/Kubuntu and haven't even been able to boot-up, > as they freeze solid during startup. I am hoping to eventually to > install Kubuntu on my internal hard disc #2. > > Cheers, > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From jwilson166 at comcast.net Fri Jan 13 08:19:44 2006 From: jwilson166 at comcast.net (jwilson166@comcast.net) Date: Fri Jan 13 08:20:02 2006 Subject: [G5] Kubuntu on G5 single? Message-ID: <011320061619.22131.43C7D32000051233000056732200761064C0C0CE02019C04079906@comcast.net> Forgot to specify which: it's Ubuntu. Never tried the special K. John -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Brian Durant > Hej, > > Has anyone gotten Ubuntu or Kubuntu installed and running or gotten a > "live CD" to work with a G5? I have tried the latest 2 versions of the > "live CD" from Ubuntu/Kubuntu and haven't even been able to boot-up, > as they freeze solid during startup. I am hoping to eventually to > install Kubuntu on my internal hard disc #2. > > Cheers, > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From globetrotterdk at gmail.com Fri Jan 13 08:32:48 2006 From: globetrotterdk at gmail.com (Brian Durant) Date: Fri Jan 13 08:32:51 2006 Subject: [G5] Kubuntu on G5 single? In-Reply-To: <011320061619.22131.43C7D32000051233000056732200761064C0C0CE02019C04079906@comcast.net> References: <011320061619.22131.43C7D32000051233000056732200761064C0C0CE02019C04079906@comcast.net> Message-ID: <2552fa090601130832x1d0a197bka0fa6d8b68755d84@mail.gmail.com> Is it the "live CD" or did you install on an HD? Did you have freezing problems? Cheers, Brian On 1/13/06, jwilson166@comcast.net wrote: > Forgot to specify which: it's Ubuntu. Never tried the special K. John > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: Brian Durant > > Hej, > > > > Has anyone gotten Ubuntu or Kubuntu installed and running or gotten a > > "live CD" to work with a G5? I have tried the latest 2 versions of the > > "live CD" from Ubuntu/Kubuntu and haven't even been able to boot-up, > > as they freeze solid during startup. I am hoping to eventually to > > install Kubuntu on my internal hard disc #2. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Brian > > _______________________________________________ > > G5 mailing list > > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From ddelmonte at mac.com Fri Jan 13 15:06:08 2006 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David DelMonte) Date: Fri Jan 13 15:06:16 2006 Subject: [G5] Interaction of FW400 and FW800 Message-ID: Are there known problems when you have mixed FW400 and 800? After going to 10.4.4, I'm getting some distortion from my Itunes music which is on a FW800 drive. I have an M-Audio Firewire 410. I play in and out through this device (it's also used for my guitar recording). Thanks David ps I apologize for the cross post. From rhazelrigg at earthlink.net Fri Jan 13 18:36:40 2006 From: rhazelrigg at earthlink.net (Robert Hazelrigg) Date: Fri Jan 13 18:36:38 2006 Subject: [G5] Interaction of FW400 and FW800 In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I've had some wacky iTunes behavior after upgrading too. But my files are on the same internal drive as my system. On Jan 13, 2006, at 6:06 PM, David DelMonte wrote: > Are there known problems when you have mixed FW400 and 800? After > going to 10.4.4, I'm getting some distortion from my Itunes music > which is on a FW800 drive. > > I have an M-Audio Firewire 410. I play in and out through this > device (it's also used for my guitar recording). > > Thanks > > David > > > ps I apologize for the cross post. > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From jwilson166 at comcast.net Fri Jan 13 20:19:03 2006 From: jwilson166 at comcast.net (John Wilson) Date: Fri Jan 13 20:19:09 2006 Subject: [G5] Kubuntu on G5 single? In-Reply-To: <2552fa090601130832x1d0a197bka0fa6d8b68755d84@mail.gmail.com> References: <011320061619.22131.43C7D32000051233000056732200761064C0C0CE02019C04079906@comcast.net> <2552fa090601130832x1d0a197bka0fa6d8b68755d84@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Installed on hard drive about 6 months ago as a VPC drive. On Jan 13, 2006, at 11:32 AM, Brian Durant wrote: > Is it the "live CD" or did you install on an HD? Did you have > freezing problems? > > Cheers, From globetrotterdk at gmail.com Sun Jan 15 04:36:08 2006 From: globetrotterdk at gmail.com (Brian Durant) Date: Sun Jan 15 04:36:10 2006 Subject: [G5] Linux on G5. Message-ID: <2552fa090601150436s20b8e5e0v5861cc48599aac0c@mail.gmail.com> Is anyone on the list using Linux (not via Virtual PC) on a G5 and what are your experiences (i.e. which distro is best/easiest to install, has best Mac G5 hardware support, etc.)? Cheers, Brian From glennsan at mac.com Sun Jan 15 14:19:30 2006 From: glennsan at mac.com (Glenn Peterson) Date: Sun Jan 15 14:19:34 2006 Subject: [G5] Linux on G5. In-Reply-To: <2552fa090601150436s20b8e5e0v5861cc48599aac0c@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Brian, Yellow Dog Linux is written for the Power PC and from what I've heard works very smooth and is well put together. You can either buy it outright or download the iso images for free. The difference is if you want support from a person you can call or depend on an email list. Good luck. Glenn http://www.yellowdoglinux.com/index.shtml/ Is the web site for the manufacturer. > From: Brian Durant > Reply-To: "A place to discuss Apple's G5 computers." > > Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 13:36:08 +0100 > To: "A place to discuss Apple's G5 computers." > > Subject: [G5] Linux on G5. > > Is anyone on the list using Linux (not via Virtual PC) on a G5 and > what are your experiences (i.e. which distro is best/easiest to > install, has best Mac G5 hardware support, etc.)? > > Cheers, > > Brian > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From ddelmonte at mac.com Sun Jan 15 15:56:32 2006 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David DelMonte) Date: Sun Jan 15 15:56:36 2006 Subject: [G5] Firewire 800 redux Message-ID: <168F1E31-ABC8-4AB5-A6C2-311CC0ABE55C@mac.com> Has anyone had experience as to what drives can support FW800 and what cannot? Is there a drive spec. that I should look for in adopting FW800? I have found this weekend (to my chagrin) that Hitachi deskstar seem to handle it, while Maxtor Diamondstar really cannot. Help appreciated as usual. David From globetrotterdk at gmail.com Thu Jan 19 05:29:03 2006 From: globetrotterdk at gmail.com (Brian Durant) Date: Thu Jan 19 05:29:06 2006 Subject: [G5] FAT32 formatting in OS X? Message-ID: <2552fa090601190529i3a491c46u1db46f6f9c1cc6ee@mail.gmail.com> I am planning to install Linux on an extra internal HD and as I understand there are some problems with mounting HFS + vvolumes from Linux, I was wondering if there is a way I can create a FAT32 partition for sharing files between the two systems. I know this can be done in Linux, but there is a problem that I quote below from an e-mail that I found. So... the big question is if there is a way to format FAT32 partitions from OS X? Here is the e-mail: "Date: Wed, 3 Apr 2002 11:27:59 +0100 To: debian-powerpc@lists.debian.org Subject: Sharing disk space between MacOS X and Linux Hi, I spent a few hours figuring out how to do this so I thought I'd share the results of my fiddling to save people time in the future. I have an iBook2 on which I primarily run Linux. However, on occasion I reboot into MacOS X -- primarily to watch a DVD or connect to the Internet using the built-in 56K modem. For various reasons it is desirable to have a partition which both operating systems can use (to exchange downloaded files, etc). Originally I planned to have a 1.5Gb HFS+ or HFS partition shared between the two. However, this didn't work out -- the hfsplus tools don't really "mount" the partition into the kernel's VFS tree and the vanilla HFS driver has crashed my kernel several times. So I scrapped this idea and the partition lay fallow for a few months. A few days ago, however, I was away from my Ethernet and wireless networks and urgently needed to download a large postscript file to the Linux partition using the 56K modem, so I went looking for a solution. It occurred to me that both OS X and Linux 2.4 have pretty solid support for FAT32. I could reformat and use my 1.5Gb "shared" partition as FAT32 under Linux quite happily using 'mkdosfs -F 32' and mounting it with the vfat filesystem. Lovely. Indeed, I could mount the same partition under MacOS X from the shell, however I couldn't persuade MacOS to automount it and make it appear on my desktop, because OS X thought it was an HFS partition without a correctly formatted HFS volume due to its type entry in the partition map. Much fiddling later I discovered the solution: Mac OS X will discover and mount the partition correctly as FAT32 if you set the partition type to the magic string "DOS_FAT_32". In mac-fdisk, use the 'd' to delete your partition, then use the 'C' (capital C!) option to create a new one covering exactly the same sectors on the disk, then enter the type as "DOS_FAT_32". I partitioned under Linux and then formatted under OS X using the Disk Tool in Utilities. It works very well indeed for me. Under Linux the fstab entry looks like this: /dev/hda10 /scratch vfat defaults,uid=500,gid=500 0 0 ... and 'mac-fdisk -l' reports: /dev/hda # type name length base ( size ) system dump: name /dev/hda len 8 /dev/hda1 Apple_partition_map Apple 63 @ 1 ( 31.5k) Partition map /dev/hda2 Apple_Driver43 Macintosh 54 @ 64 ( 27.0k) Driver 4.3 /dev/hda3 Apple_Driver43 Macintosh 74 @ 118 ( 37.0k) Driver 4.3 /dev/hda4 Apple_Driver_ATA Macintosh 54 @ 192 ( 27.0k) Unknown /dev/hda5 Apple_Driver_ATA Macintosh 74 @ 246 ( 37.0k) Unknown /dev/hda6 Apple_FWDriver Macintosh 200 @ 320 (100.0k) Unknown /dev/hda7 Apple_Driver_IOKit Macintosh 512 @ 520 (256.0k) Unknown /dev/hda8 Apple_Patches Patch Partition 512 @ 1032 (256.0k) Unknown /dev/hda9 Apple_HFS untitled 5120000 @ 1544 ( 2.4G) HFS /dev/hda10 DOS_FAT_32 Scratch 3072000 @ 5121544 ( 1.5G) Unknown /dev/hda11 Apple_Bootstrap Bootstrap 65536 @ 8193544 ( 32.0M) NewWorld bootblock /dev/hda12 Swap Linux 2097152 @ 8259080 ( 1.0G) Unknown /dev/hda13 Apple_UNIX_SVR2 Linux 28713848 @ 10356232 ( 13.7G) Linux native I'm very pleased with this. The only annoyance is that OS X insists on labelling the disk icon "SCRATCH" and won't allow me to rename it to something that isn't all-caps. Ho hum, can't have everything ;) I'd be interested if anyone has solved this problem by a more elegant route (preferably involving a "real" filesystem...)" Cheers, Brian From globetrotterdk at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 02:14:37 2006 From: globetrotterdk at gmail.com (Brian Durant) Date: Tue Jan 24 06:57:48 2006 Subject: [G5] Firmware - how do I find out what version I am using? Message-ID: <2552fa090601200214i74370f45s41828cf91acc479f@mail.gmail.com> How do I find out what version of firmware I am using? I am using OS X Tiger (10.4.4), but I need to confirm the firmware version. Cheers, Brian From globetrotterdk at gmail.com Fri Jan 20 03:02:55 2006 From: globetrotterdk at gmail.com (Brian Durant) Date: Tue Jan 24 06:57:59 2006 Subject: [G5] Trying to upgrade Fink to version 0.8.0. Message-ID: <2552fa090601200302o4255a73dwef6b21b2a321c68b@mail.gmail.com> Hi again, I am trying to upgrade Fink to version 0.8.0, as I am running 10.4.4. I have tried to follow the instructions at: http://fink.sourceforge.net/index.php?phpLang=en Here is what happened: $ fink selfupdate /usr/bin/sudo /sw/bin/fink selfupdate (1) Delete it and download again (2) Assume it is a partial download and try to continue (3) Don't download, use existing file The file "CURRENT-FINK-10.3" already exists. How do you want to proceed? [1] 1 curl -f -L -O http://fink.sourceforge.net/CURRENT-FINK-10.3 % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 0 11 0 11 0 0 25 0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 0 I will now download the package descriptions for Fink 10.3-0.7.2 and update the core packages. After that, you should update the other packages using commands like 'fink update-all'. curl -f -L -O http://west.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/fink/dists-10.3-0.7.2.tar.gz curl: (7) couldn't connect to host ### execution of curl failed, exit code 7 Downloading the file "dists-10.3-0.7.2.tar.gz" failed. (1) Give up (2) Retry the same mirror (3) Retry another mirror from your country (4) Retry another mirror from your continent (5) Retry another mirror How do you want to proceed? [3] 3 curl -f -L -O http://aleron.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/fink/dists-10.3-0.7.2.tar.gz % Total % Received % Xferd Average Speed Time Time Time Current Dload Upload Total Spent Left Speed 4200 390 4200 12685 0 0 7883 0 --:--:-- 0:00:01 --:--:-- 24042 tar -xzf dists-10.3-0.7.2.tar.gz gzip: stdin: not in gzip format tar: Child returned status 1 tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors ### execution of tar failed, exit code 2 Failed: unpacking dists-10.3-0.7.2.tar.gz failed $ fink --version Package manager version: 0.21.3 Distribution version: 0.7.1 $ sudo /sw/lib/fink/postinstall.pl Checking system... powerpc-apple-darwin8.4.0 This system was not released at the time this Fink release was made. Prerelease versions of Mac OS X might work with Fink, but there are no guarantees. ln -s 10.3 /sw/fink/dists $ fink --version Package manager version: 0.21.3 Distribution version: 0.7.1 -snip- So where do I go from here?? Help!!! Cheers, Brian. From allan at hise.org Tue Jan 24 10:02:13 2006 From: allan at hise.org (Allan Hise) Date: Tue Jan 24 10:02:34 2006 Subject: [G5] Firmware - how do I find out what version I am using? In-Reply-To: <2552fa090601200214i74370f45s41828cf91acc479f@mail.gmail.com> References: <2552fa090601200214i74370f45s41828cf91acc479f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: On 20 Jan 2006, at 11:14 , Brian Durant wrote: > How do I find out what version of firmware I am using? I am using OS X > Tiger (10.4.4), but I need to confirm the firmware version. System Profiler -> Hardware "Boot ROM Version" From globetrotterdk at gmail.com Tue Jan 24 13:07:07 2006 From: globetrotterdk at gmail.com (Brian Durant) Date: Tue Jan 24 13:07:09 2006 Subject: [G5] Firmware - how do I find out what version I am using? In-Reply-To: References: <2552fa090601200214i74370f45s41828cf91acc479f@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <2552fa090601241307o5c26f2f3oef100e00a50e6ecb@mail.gmail.com> Thanks. On 1/24/06, Allan Hise wrote: > > On 20 Jan 2006, at 11:14 , Brian Durant wrote: > > > How do I find out what version of firmware I am using? I am using OS X > > Tiger (10.4.4), but I need to confirm the firmware version. > > > System Profiler -> Hardware > "Boot ROM Version" > > _______________________________________________ > G5 mailing list > G5@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/g5 > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >