From fggorham at shaw.ca Wed Jul 5 09:10:58 2006 From: fggorham at shaw.ca (Glenn Gorham) Date: Wed Jul 5 09:13:18 2006 Subject: [HM] Help - Need to recover a file Message-ID: Have accidentally Trashed and Emptied a file I need. Any hints to recover. gg From brian4 at sbcglobal.net Wed Jul 5 09:31:16 2006 From: brian4 at sbcglobal.net (Brian Olesky) Date: Wed Jul 5 09:32:04 2006 Subject: [HM] Help - Need to recover a file In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 7/5/06 9:10 AM, "Glenn Gorham" wrote: > Have accidentally Trashed and Emptied a file I need. > > Any hints to recover. > The obvious answers: Have you already emptied the trash? If not, your file should still be sitting in there. Do you not do backups? If you don't, you now see one of the reasons you need to start. And losing just one file is an easy way to learn this lesson. Did you by any chance email it to somebody? And finally, you might check your files for any partly finished versions you may have saved along the way. if none of those work, I understand there are some data recovery companies out there that will take your hard drive and try to recover the data, but it means giving up your computer for awhile and I hear it's very expensive. Hope someone else has a better option for you. Brian From michael-winter at uiowa.edu Wed Jul 5 10:13:52 2006 From: michael-winter at uiowa.edu (Michael Winter) Date: Wed Jul 5 10:14:43 2006 Subject: [HM] Help - Need to recover a file In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: On Jul 5, 2006, at 11:10 AM, Glenn Gorham wrote: > Have accidentally Trashed and Emptied a file I need. In the past, I've used everything from Norton Utilities, to TechTool Pro, to DiskWarrier to recover erased files. I haven't done it in a long time, so I'm just guessing that current versions of the programs would still to this. Just so you know how things work, the analogy I use is to compare the hard drive to a book. When the computer wants to find a file in "the book", it looks in the table of contents to find out where the file is written in the book. When you erase a file, it erases the entry in the table of contents so the computer can no longer find it using its normal method. But it does not actually erase the page(s) containing the file. That only happens if a new file is saved and it happens to be saved on the same page that erased file resides on. To recover an erased file, recovery utilities read through the hard drive page by page looking for files and bits of files that don't have a corresponding listing in the table of contents. The utility will then usually give you a list of what it has found and give you the option to "recover" those files. IMPORTANT: Shut down the computer. The key to being able to recover an erased file is that no other file has written over the page(s) that contained the erased file. OS X during normal operation may create "swap files" and defragment files, overwriting different parts of the disk. Even downloading an email message like this one will overwrite part of the disk where erased files may have resided. Your best bet is to immediately shut down the computer and restart it using the CD supplied with whichever utility you have to recover files. The more you do on the computer before recovering the file, the more likely it will be overwritten and lost forever. Good luck. -Mike From janesprando at comcast.net Wed Jul 5 10:40:49 2006 From: janesprando at comcast.net (janesprando@comcast.net) Date: Wed Jul 5 10:40:59 2006 Subject: [HM] Re:safely use 10.3 install CDs from PowerBook on an iMac Message-ID: <070520061740.27783.44ABF9A00002709B00006C872205886442010B020E9D9F9C0A020E06@comcast.net> I have a g4 PoerBook that came with 10.3 install Cds. My G4 iMac is running 10.2. Can I use the 10.3 install Cds from the PowerBook to update the iMac? This iMac will also boot into 9.2.2. Do I have to do anything to protect that? -- Jane From luomat at gmail.com Wed Jul 5 10:43:27 2006 From: luomat at gmail.com (TjL) Date: Wed Jul 5 10:45:36 2006 Subject: [HM] Re:safely use 10.3 install CDs from PowerBook on an iMac In-Reply-To: <070520061740.27783.44ABF9A00002709B00006C872205886442010B020E9D9F9C0A020E06@comcast.net> References: <070520061740.27783.44ABF9A00002709B00006C872205886442010B020E9D9F9C0A020E06@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 7/5/06, janesprando@comcast.net wrote: > I have a g4 PoerBook that came with 10.3 install Cds. My G4 iMac is running 10.2. Can I use the 10.3 install Cds from the PowerBook to update the iMac? > Technically? Probably. Legally/ethically? No, unless you are no longer using 10.3 on the Powerbook > This iMac will also boot into 9.2.2. Do I have to do anything to protect that? That I don't know. From janesprando at comcast.net Thu Jul 6 22:14:57 2006 From: janesprando at comcast.net (janesprando@comcast.net) Date: Thu Jul 6 22:15:05 2006 Subject: [HM] Re:safely use 10.3 install CDs from PowerBook on an iMac Message-ID: <070720060514.20641.44ADEDD100086D26000050A12200751090010B020E9D9F9C0A020E06@comcast.net> I never even considered there would be a legal problem installing the software on 2 computers for home use. So spend the money on another 10.3 program or use it to upgrade other programs to 10.3 ...... -- Jane -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: TjL > On 7/5/06, janesprando@comcast.net wrote: > > I have a g4 PoerBook that came with 10.3 install Cds. My G4 iMac is running > 10.2. Can I use the 10.3 install Cds from the PowerBook to update the iMac? > > > > Technically? Probably. > > Legally/ethically? No, unless you are no longer using 10.3 on the Powerbook > > > This iMac will also boot into 9.2.2. Do I have to do anything to protect that? > > That I don't know. > _______________________________________________ > HomeMac mailing list > HomeMac@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/homemac > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From luomat at gmail.com Fri Jul 7 08:06:26 2006 From: luomat at gmail.com (TjL) Date: Fri Jul 7 08:06:31 2006 Subject: [HM] Re:safely use 10.3 install CDs from PowerBook on an iMac In-Reply-To: <070720060514.20641.44ADEDD100086D26000050A12200751090010B020E9D9F9C0A020E06@comcast.net> References: <070720060514.20641.44ADEDD100086D26000050A12200751090010B020E9D9F9C0A020E06@comcast.net> Message-ID: On 7/7/06, janesprando@comcast.net wrote: > I never even considered there would be a legal problem installing the software > on 2 computers for home use. So spend the money on another 10.3 program > or use it to upgrade other programs to 10.3 ...... Will anyone ever check? Probably not. But if you want to legally use it on more than one computer, checkout the "OS X Family Pack" which you can use on up to 5 computers. At this point though I'd wait until 10.5 before doing so, since Apple doesn't really give upgrade pricing.