[MacDV] Re: AE Stupid question...probably

Tue Apr 29 14:33:37 PDT 2003

since this is just to quickly check transitions and general screwing  
around and only for my eyes at this point... the DV Codec?

When it comes time to show the client I'll do a DVD or QT cd... VCD? or  
vhs depending on what level they are at... something that will be plug  
and play...

I'd never bring a client here. I use a voicebox on the phone as well,  
so when I'm demanding payement, it's more exciting since they have to  
leave it in a bus station locker...
thanks

On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 05:24 PM, Ron Woodland wrote:

> I used to use AE a lot more before FCP came along.  I still use it for  
> motion graphics kind of stuff.  FCP can do that too, but not quite as  
> naturally.  Of course FCP is optimized for using the DV codec, but  
> that can hammer the quality of text, even at higher quality.
>
> I think the frame skipping problem you have is definitely compression  
> related ...or the lack thereof.  Why not use the DV codec at highest  
> quality?  Playback off the hard drive would be much improved with  
> essentially broadcast quality appearance.  Or put it to tape using FCP  
> and take it to the client instead of the client coming to you.  (Is it  
> even possible to print to video from AE?  I've never figured out how.)  
>  You never want to let the client see you work or even where you work.  
>  It takes away the mystic.
>
> Ron Woodland
>
>
> On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 03:01  PM, Matthew Guemple wrote:
>
>> Yeah my bad.
>> 640X480
>> 29.7 fps...
>> Full/Best
>> No compression.
>>
>> I'm just rendering this stuff out for a preview and it's clunky at  
>> full-size on my machine. I guess that is a compression issue...
>> When I'm ready to actually do something with this... show it to a  
>> client... I figured I worry about compression etc then.
>> I'll assume its a compression issue and go from there...
>> I was just worried it was a rendering issue... ie files on the "home"  
>> drive or something like one can get with FCP.
>> Thanks
>> M
>>
>> On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 04:50 PM, Ron Woodland wrote:
>>
>>> More information is needed -- frame size, frame rate, codec used,  
>>> quality level, and data rate settings, etc.  There's no free lunch  
>>> here.  Uncompressed video is upwards of 30 MB of throughput per  
>>> second.  Obviously compression and real-time decompression is how  
>>> video streaming is being done now.  The local hard drive can deliver  
>>> full-frame, full-motion video using some compression, the artifacts  
>>> from which are noticeable to the trained eye.  For CD-ROMs, DVDs,  
>>> and web streaming even more compromises in quality have to be made.   
>>> Newer codecs, such as Sorenson and the MPEGs (1, 2, and 4) have  
>>> changed the trade-off curve, but there are still trade offs to be  
>>> made.
>>>
>>> Ron Woodland
>>> St. George, Utah
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, April 29, 2003, at 12:29  PM, Matthew Guemple wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm sure this is basic and covered ad nasuem but...
>>>> It seems every time I render a QT (compression none) of whatever  
>>>> I'm doing, the playback always locks-up/stutters at some point  
>>>> (often at transitions or effects)
>>>> I know I am forgetting something basic...
>>>> WHAT IS IT!??? It's driving me crazy...
>>>> tia
>>>> M
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