Kunga You are a nice enough guy but this suggestion is totally unethical. The practices you are advocating will increase the costs to honest consumers everywhere, the large retailer does not pay for shrinkage and dubious abuse of it's return policy but it is the 99% of honest customers. Gerhard Kuhn suspice at hay.net On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 06:48 AM, Kunga wrote: > If you can't afford a $259 Canopus encoder, you are going to have to > buy Pass Through DV camcorders from places that have 30 day return > policies and use each one for 29 days and return for refund and then > buy another and so forth and so on. > >