Mea culpa. You're right. I had forgotten that. Of course, the price differential of $299 over FreeDV still needs to be considered. That's not expensive to those of us who are used to spending decent amounts of money on software, but it's definitely a factor for the consumer iMovie user. Apple doesn't offer a free compositing NLE. Avid does. Some people are going to be very happy about that. On the other hand, iMovie wins hands down for ease of use over Avid, so for the majority of consumer-level editing projects it would be the free app of choice. All I'm saying is that having another option in the $0 price range is a good thing and saying "that's junk, use this $1000 (or even $300) piece of software instead" is kind of missing the whole point of what FreeDV offers. It does bring something new to the free editing space. I could even see somebody using iMovie as their introduction to editing, then using FreeDV to learn more advanced editing concepts and compositing, then stepping up to FCP Express as an entry level into even more advanced editing and finally stepping up to FCP. I think that having a free app that has more advanced concepts and features in it than iMovie is valuable as a learning tool regardless. All that said, I highly doubt that it will serve as a point of entry to getting people to purchase more expensive offerings from Avid. Those just don't seem to compete well with FCP when it comes to "bang for buck". I'm not sure what Avid will get out of it, but entry-level editing aficionados will get a free tool that stretches their capabilities and lets them learn. Why rip that? Ryan On Wednesday, October 8, 2003, at 01:16 PM, sb wrote: > You can composite in Final Cut Express. You can't keyframe filters. > > sb > > On 10/8/03 8:42 AM, "Ryan Sutter" <vioman at nucleargopher.com> wrote: > >> It's worth the download if you are an iMovie user who is not >> interested in >> shelling out $1000 for FCP but want compositing capabilities. >> iMovie, no >> compositing. FCP Express, nope. This is free and does allow for >> compositing >> and keyframes. That means it will be a good tool for many people. >> Don't >> knock something just because it's not Apple. I use FCP, but if I >> were an >> iMovie or even FCP Express user, I would also get Avid Free DV for >> that >> feature alone. >> >> Ryan >> >> >> --- "Dr. M. Burek" <mrwitch at tampabay.rr.com> wrote: >> On 10/7/03 10:56 PM, "David Thrasher" <idave at earthlink.net> wrote: >> >> >>>> It's free software and I can only assume that Avid intends it to be >> an iMovie >>>> killer and hopes that people who use it will want to move up to >> their pricey >>>> professional software instead of Final Cut Pro. >>> >>> >>> My mom used to say, >>> >>> "90% of nothing is still nothing." >>> >>> Long Live Final Cut. >>> >>> Dan >> >> >> Yeah, I agree. Renders only to QuickTime? No MPEG-1 or -2?? And to get >> it, you have to buy Avid Xpress Pro, which is $1700? Come on... >> >> I'll stick with the Apple apps, thanks... >> >> If you try this, be sure to read the system requirements and the >> missing >> "feature" lists. It isn't even worth a download... >> >> >> >> >> >> ---------- >> <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/MacDV.html>. >> Send a message to <MacDV-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to the >> digest >> version. >> >> XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! >> Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> >> >> Cyberian | Support this list when you buy at Outpost.com! >> Outpost | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/outpost.shtml >> >> MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only >> $879! >> Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com> >> >> ---------- >> <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/MacDV.html>. >> Send a message to <MacDV-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to the >> digest >> version. >> >> XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! >> Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> >> >> Cyberian | Support this list when you buy at Outpost.com! >> Outpost | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/outpost.shtml >> >> MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only >> $879! >> Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com> >> > > > ---------- > <http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/MacDV.html>. > Send a message to <MacDV-DIGEST at themacintoshguy.com> to switch to the > digest version. > > XRouter | Share your DSL or cable modem between multiple computers! > Dr. Bott | Now $139.99 <http://www.drbott.com/prod/xrouter.html> > > Cyberian | Support this list when you buy at Outpost.com! > Outpost | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/outpost.shtml > > MacResQ Specials: LaCie SCSI CDR From $99! PowerBook 3400/200 Only > $879! > Norton AntiVirus 6 Only $19! We Stock PARTS! <http://www.macresq.com> >