[MacDV] Re: Maxtor 160GB (Blue and White G3)

[illovox at comcast.net]

I disagree.  I have had a bad week with flaky friends, idiotic clients, and
a snowstorm that has had me trapped in this house for days.  I say
FIGHTCLUB.

Put up your dukes, Peter, ya blabber big mouth.  Defragging helps and I
don't feel like demoing squat to your arrogant puss and let me have 10
seconds with your machine and I'll show you what fragmentation can do.

Steeempy!  You EEEEDEEEEOT!  (Flock!)

on 1/7/04 3:57 PM, Mark M. Florida at markf at squareblue.com wrote:

> Can we not agree to disagree?  ;-)  I think this discussion has been run
> into the ground on this list...
> 
> In the many discussions we've had in the past week or so, I think the
> consensus we can all agree on is that you need to do what works for YOU.  If
> your drives are cranky and defragging makes them happy, then go for it.  If
> you haven't defragged (or reformatted) in years and you don't have problems,
> then that's great too...
> 
> Whatever works for you is what you should do...
> 
> - Mark
> 
> 
> On 1/7/04 5:42 PM, Richard Gilmore at rgilmor at uwo.ca wrote:
> 
>> Quoting Peter van der Linden <pvdl at afu.com>:
>> 
>> 
>>> So far no one has produced any evidence.
>> 
>> Neither have you.
>> 
>>> You understand that it is up
>>> to those making a claim to produce the evidence in support, right?  The
>>> person who disbelieves a claim is entitled to ask for the evidence on
>>> which it is based.  None has been produced, nor will it be, since the
>>> belief is bogus.
>> 
>> Says you.
>> 
>>> If you make a claim "A", and someone says "I don't
>>> believe you", then you lose the argument if you can't support your
>>> claim, e.g. if your response is "bupkiss, whatever works for you" or
>>> "prove it".
>> 
>> And where's the support for your claim?
>> 
>>> Regardless, when I get the time, I will write some benchmarks to show
>>> (one way or the other) that "defragmenting" a disk does nothing of
>>> significance for I/O performance for MacOS 10.3.
>> 
>> You will write the benchmarks, which of course will totally agree with your
>> argument. How about an independant third party evaluation. Is there any?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Richard