DV cams have a mimimum size limitation because of the physical tape path needed. If your Sony MicroMV cam delivers quality good enough for your use, why not capture video by transfering to miniDV first (or using a playthrough camera)? As to which cam is tiny, this Sony has a good feel and is nicely streamlined, not bulky. Sony DCR-HC40 Dimensions (WHD): 2" x 3 1/2" x 4 1/2" (50 x 86 x 112mm) I still love my Canon ZR series cams, though they are thicker. RB Eric Pentice wrote: > Does anyone know the smallest DV camera that works with the Mac?