From brett.conlon at sonydadc.com Mon Oct 2 20:50:50 2006 From: brett.conlon at sonydadc.com (Brett Conlon) Date: Mon Oct 2 20:51:19 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Fw: DVD Studio Pro slideshows look low res Message-ID: I sent this email last week but our Servers were having issues so I don't think it made it to the list. My apologies if it did and I didn't receive a confirmation... ----- Forwarded ----- Hiya, I've mentioned this previously on this list (in passing I think) but didn't get any response so I'll mention it again. I've just completed authoring a project which contains a DVD Studio Pro slideshow. Previously I used to import my pics into DSPro (direct from the camera or iPhoto in their full size) and set the slides with the dissolve transition but the final produced slideshow (burned to disc) would show the *transitions* between the shots with crisp images but when the images are *still* it looks dreadfully low-res, eg. you could read words on a sign in the background of an image during the transition in and out of the slide but when the slide was still the words looked pixellated and illegible. Sometimes I'd resort to using FinalCutPro to build the slideshows - more time consuming but gives more control. This time, hoping to avoid the pixellated look when making a DSPro slideshow, I thought I'd crop and re-sample all my pics in Photoshop to 720X576 (PAL) so DSPro didn't have to do any re-sampling. The results are better but in many slides I could still see a pixellation happening, eg. my wife's mouth in one slide almost looks missing but when the transition kicks in the details of the lips appear clearly (BTW, this is a standard crowd-type shot, not close-ups). Anyone have any thoughts? Is DSPro lousy at re-sampling. maybe? The project is 16:9 but the slideshow is set to 4:3. Perhaps that's my issue, should I be down-resing my images to 640X480 instead? Your pointers are most appreciated!!! Cheers, Cojcolds From rgb at ellerbach.com Tue Oct 3 18:29:36 2006 From: rgb at ellerbach.com (Rich) Date: Tue Oct 3 18:29:49 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Fw: DVD Studio Pro slideshows look low res In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <45230E80.4040202@ellerbach.com> On 2-10-2006 23:50, Brett Conlon wrote: > I sent this email last week but our Servers were having issues so I don't > think it made it to the list. My apologies if it did and I didn't receive > a confirmation... > Your messages all get to the list Brett. But it doesn't look like anyone here uses DSPro or, if they do, they aren't willing to make public comment about it. Rich From brett.conlon at sonydadc.com Tue Oct 3 18:47:16 2006 From: brett.conlon at sonydadc.com (Brett Conlon) Date: Tue Oct 3 18:47:33 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Fw: DVD Studio Pro slideshows look low res In-Reply-To: <45230E80.4040202@ellerbach.com> Message-ID: Thanks for letting me know, matey! I just musn't have received the confirmation back. Surely someone out there has built a slideshow in DVDStudio Pro. If they didn't notice any quality problems then perhaps it is just my setup. Cheers, Coj Rich Sent by: macdv-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com 04/10/06 11:29 AM Please respond to "A place to discuss digital video on Macintosh." To "A place to discuss digital video on Macintosh." cc Subject Re: [MacDV] Fw: DVD Studio Pro slideshows look low res On 2-10-2006 23:50, Brett Conlon wrote: > I sent this email last week but our Servers were having issues so I don't > think it made it to the list. My apologies if it did and I didn't receive > a confirmation... > Your messages all get to the list Brett. But it doesn't look like anyone here uses DSPro or, if they do, they aren't willing to make public comment about it. Rich From cfreeman at liberty.edu Tue Oct 3 18:56:31 2006 From: cfreeman at liberty.edu (Colt Freeman) Date: Tue Oct 3 18:56:47 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Fw: DVD Studio Pro slideshows look low res In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I do, but I've not seen any problems with slideshows and honestly; I've only rarely needed to do one. I try to avoid them. I stick with video and not stills. I can possibly try this later on in the week, but I can't promise anything. On 10/3/06 9:47 PM, "Brett Conlon" wrote: > Thanks for letting me know, matey! I just musn't have received the > confirmation back. > > Surely someone out there has built a slideshow in DVDStudio Pro. If they > didn't notice any quality problems then perhaps it is just my setup. > > Cheers, > > Coj > > > > > Rich > Sent by: macdv-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > 04/10/06 11:29 AM > Please respond to > "A place to discuss digital video on Macintosh." > > > > To > "A place to discuss digital video on Macintosh." > > cc > > Subject > Re: [MacDV] Fw: DVD Studio Pro slideshows look low res > > > > > > > On 2-10-2006 23:50, Brett Conlon wrote: >> I sent this email last week but our Servers were having issues so I > don't >> think it made it to the list. My apologies if it did and I didn't > receive >> a confirmation... >> > > Your messages all get to the list Brett. But it doesn't look like anyone > here uses DSPro or, if they do, they aren't willing to make public > comment about it. > > Rich > > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From jimash at optonline.net Tue Oct 3 19:56:17 2006 From: jimash at optonline.net (James Asherman) Date: Tue Oct 3 19:56:24 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Fw: DVD Studio Pro slideshows look low res In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4163CBDD-4346-46EE-B3FB-0538C6E637F3@optonline.net> On Oct 3, 2006, at 9:47 PM, Brett Conlon wrote: > Thanks for letting me know, matey! I just musn't have received the > confirmation back. > > Surely someone out there has built a slideshow in DVDStudio Pro. If > they > didn't notice any quality problems then perhaps it is just my setup. > > Cheers, > > Coj Well I was thinking about it. I usually use iPhoto or iMovie or FCP studio to assemble my montages and put them in as video . So while I was thinking about it, I thought maybe it would work better if you resized the pictures to 720x480 or 1080x720 before you put them in there. But it seemed kind of simplistic. jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061003/31a19a19/attachment.html From brett.conlon at sonydadc.com Tue Oct 3 20:07:48 2006 From: brett.conlon at sonydadc.com (Brett Conlon) Date: Tue Oct 3 20:08:09 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Fw: DVD Studio Pro slideshows look low res In-Reply-To: <4163CBDD-4346-46EE-B3FB-0538C6E637F3@optonline.net> Message-ID: Thnaks for your feedback Colt & Jim. I talked to a colleague the other day and he recommended cropping the 4:3 pics (PAL) as 768 X 576 then resampling them to 720 X 576 in a similar vain to creating 16:9 menus at 1024 X 576 then resampling to 720 X 576. This is because of the difference between the square pixels of the computer vs. the rectangular pixels of TV. I haven't given it a go yet but I'll try with a short test and see if that makes a difference. Basically I'm trying to avoid DSPro resampling the images for me if they are the wrong size.... at least that seems to be where the issue is coming from. Coj James Asherman Sent by: macdv-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com 04/10/06 12:56 PM Please respond to "A place to discuss digital video on Macintosh." To "A place to discuss digital video on Macintosh." cc Subject Re: [MacDV] Fw: DVD Studio Pro slideshows look low res On Oct 3, 2006, at 9:47 PM, Brett Conlon wrote: Thanks for letting me know, matey! I just musn't have received the confirmation back. Surely someone out there has built a slideshow in DVDStudio Pro. If they didn't notice any quality problems then perhaps it is just my setup. Cheers, Coj Well I was thinking about it. I usually use iPhoto or iMovie or FCP studio to assemble my montages and put them in as video . So while I was thinking about it, I thought maybe it would work better if you resized the pictures to 720x480 or 1080x720 before you put them in there. But it seemed kind of simplistic. jim_______________________________________________ From merelyn_davi at internode.on.net Sat Oct 7 03:45:56 2006 From: merelyn_davi at internode.on.net (merelyn davi) Date: Sat Oct 7 03:46:16 2006 Subject: [MacDV] how to edit a VIDEO_TS folder Message-ID: <2A03A113-E7B5-4F17-84D0-1BE63787CE1B@internode.on.net> Is there a way of editing a VIDEO_TS folder. Someone told me you could change the format in toast 7 and then edit it in quicktime pro. I can't for the life of me work out what to do in Toast to change the format. All I have ever done with a video_ts folder is to click the button and toast hasn't given me any options except what is under the advanced tab. Can't find anything in the preferences. Can anyone help me please. Quicktime pro part of it isn't a problem. If anyone has an alternative way of doing this I'd like to know as well please. Any help would be very much appreciated thank you. Merelyn Davi MacOSX 10.4.8 From videovideo at mac.com Sat Oct 7 04:01:32 2006 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Sat Oct 7 04:03:03 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: how to edit a VIDEO_TS folder In-Reply-To: <2A03A113-E7B5-4F17-84D0-1BE63787CE1B@internode.on.net> Message-ID: Are you trying to edit the menu of a DVD? Or, edit a movie? regards, sb On 10/7/06 3:45 AM, "merelyn davi" wrote: > Is there a way of editing a VIDEO_TS folder. > > Someone told me you could change the format in toast 7 and then edit > it in quicktime pro. > > I can't for the life of me work out what to do in Toast to change the > format. All I have ever done with a video_ts folder is to click the > button and toast hasn't given me any options except what is under the > advanced tab. Can't find anything in the preferences. Can anyone help > me please. > > Quicktime pro part of it isn't a problem. > > If anyone has an alternative way of doing this I'd like to know as > well please. Any help would be very much appreciated thank you. > > Merelyn Davi > > MacOSX 10.4.8 From ewiser at bellsouth.net Sat Oct 7 13:45:10 2006 From: ewiser at bellsouth.net (Ed Wiser) Date: Sat Oct 7 13:45:20 2006 Subject: [MacDV] how to edit a VIDEO_TS folder In-Reply-To: <2A03A113-E7B5-4F17-84D0-1BE63787CE1B@internode.on.net> References: <2A03A113-E7B5-4F17-84D0-1BE63787CE1B@internode.on.net> Message-ID: <4B23CB2C-A049-4251-9ECF-FD68A26018F4@bellsouth.net> What you need to do is use a piece of soft ware such as http://www.squared5.com/svideo/mpeg-streamclip-mac.html this will let you convert the VOB files into Quicktime or DV to then put into iMovie or Final Cut. On Oct 7, 2006, at 6:45 AM, merelyn davi wrote: > Is there a way of editing a VIDEO_TS folder. From merelyn_davi at internode.on.net Sun Oct 8 01:22:24 2006 From: merelyn_davi at internode.on.net (merelyn davi) Date: Sun Oct 8 01:22:39 2006 Subject: [MacDV] how to edit a VIDEO_TS folder Message-ID: How to edit a VIDEO_TS folder Hi sb, I'm trying to edit the movie part of the dvd. Thanks Merelyn From videovideo at mac.com Sun Oct 8 03:23:00 2006 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Sun Oct 8 03:23:09 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: how to edit a VIDEO_TS folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Then you need to rip it back to something like DV to edit. If you have the MPEG2 componenent for Quicktime ($20) you can use MPEGStreamclip, which is free. There are other solutions as well. regards, sb On 10/8/06 1:22 AM, "merelyn davi" wrote: > How to edit a VIDEO_TS folder > > Hi sb, > > I'm trying to edit the movie part of the dvd. > > Thanks > > Merelyn > _______________________________________________ > From camzotter at gmail.com Mon Oct 9 07:19:45 2006 From: camzotter at gmail.com (CAM) Date: Mon Oct 9 07:19:52 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Compression type Message-ID: <4e27a5220610090719p2390345tb0b29032d38b20f0@mail.gmail.com> Hello everyone: Can someone please let me know what the compression type H.254 is? I usually use sorenson 3. Also, if I am exporting quicktime videos for the web, what type of compression do you recommend to have an equal balance of download time and video quality? Thanks in advance! -- Cam http://zotterinc.com From winter at mac.com Mon Oct 9 07:51:17 2006 From: winter at mac.com (Michael Winter) Date: Mon Oct 9 07:50:53 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: how to edit a VIDEO_TS folder In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <85CAB67E-3DD9-4B22-A1D8-C3BA1A714753@mac.com> On Oct 8, 2006, at 5:23 AM, sb wrote: > Then you need to rip it back to something like DV to edit. > > If you have the MPEG2 componenent for Quicktime ($20) you can use > MPEGStreamclip, which is free. If you use MPEGStreamclip, you can clip out sections and rejoin without having to rip it to DV (which is a lossy operation). The only caveat is that I think the "cuts" have to happen at reference frames, so you don't have the single-frame control you do with DV. -Mike From shirleykat at cox.net Mon Oct 9 17:20:39 2006 From: shirleykat at cox.net (Shirley Kehr) Date: Mon Oct 9 17:16:55 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Compression type In-Reply-To: <4e27a5220610090719p2390345tb0b29032d38b20f0@mail.gmail.com> References: <4e27a5220610090719p2390345tb0b29032d38b20f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I did a Google search for H.264 and chose the Apple site over the Wikipedia. I believe they started using this format for the Keynote addresses a year or more ago. They seem to run pretty smoothly for me now, so my take is that it's capable of pushing a lot of information over the wires. http://www.apple.com/quicktime/technologies/h264/ Shirley On Oct 9, 2006, at 7:19 AM, CAM wrote: > > Can someone please let me know what the compression type H.254 is? I > usually use sorenson 3. From videovideo at mac.com Mon Oct 9 17:54:19 2006 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Mon Oct 9 17:54:35 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Compression type In-Reply-To: <4e27a5220610090719p2390345tb0b29032d38b20f0@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: H.264 is the codec, just like sorenson 3 is a codec. You choose H.264 in the compression application (QT or Compressor, etc) H.264 is very good for the web, that's what it was created for - to maximize quality with the smallest file sizes. That said, you need to know what your intended audience has - you might be better off using WMP (Windows Media Player) if most/all your viewers are PC people, or you might be better off with Flash 8 if you want to stream a high quality video. regards, sb On 10/9/06 7:19 AM, "CAM" wrote: > Hello everyone: > > Can someone please let me know what the compression type H.254 is? I > usually use sorenson 3. > > Also, if I am exporting quicktime videos for the web, what type of > compression do you recommend to have an equal balance of download time > and video quality? > > Thanks in advance! From ddelmonte at mac.com Mon Oct 9 18:02:51 2006 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David DelMonte) Date: Mon Oct 9 18:03:03 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Compression type In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <20885209-F7C4-436C-BD0E-300A371FF35E@mac.com> The latter (Flash) is also best if you do not want your video easily poached. If you want general distribution, the top three programs are QT, Real, and Windows Media. I believe that the latter two have proprietary codecs. Is that correct? David David On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:54 PM, sb wrote: > H.264 is the codec, just like sorenson 3 is a codec. You choose H. > 264 in the > compression application (QT or Compressor, etc) > > H.264 is very good for the web, that's what it was created for - to > maximize > quality with the smallest file sizes. > > That said, you need to know what your intended audience has - you > might be > better off using WMP (Windows Media Player) if most/all your > viewers are PC > people, or you might be better off with Flash 8 if you want to > stream a high > quality video. > > regards, > sb > > > On 10/9/06 7:19 AM, "CAM" wrote: > >> Hello everyone: >> >> Can someone please let me know what the compression type H.254 is? I >> usually use sorenson 3. >> >> Also, if I am exporting quicktime videos for the web, what type of >> compression do you recommend to have an equal balance of download >> time >> and video quality? >> >> Thanks in advance! > > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From videovideo at mac.com Mon Oct 9 18:22:17 2006 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Mon Oct 9 18:23:06 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Compression type In-Reply-To: <20885209-F7C4-436C-BD0E-300A371FF35E@mac.com> Message-ID: REAL is a virus masquerading as an application. WM, FLASH and QT are the top 3 choices, IMHO. regards, sb On 10/9/06 6:02 PM, "David DelMonte" wrote: > The latter (Flash) is also best if you do not want your video easily > poached. If you want general distribution, the top three programs are > QT, Real, and Windows Media. I believe that the latter two have > proprietary codecs. Is that correct? > > David > > David > > On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:54 PM, sb wrote: > >> H.264 is the codec, just like sorenson 3 is a codec. You choose H. >> 264 in the >> compression application (QT or Compressor, etc) >> >> H.264 is very good for the web, that's what it was created for - to >> maximize >> quality with the smallest file sizes. >> >> That said, you need to know what your intended audience has - you >> might be >> better off using WMP (Windows Media Player) if most/all your >> viewers are PC >> people, or you might be better off with Flash 8 if you want to >> stream a high >> quality video. >> >> regards, >> sb >> >> >> On 10/9/06 7:19 AM, "CAM" wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone: >>> >>> Can someone please let me know what the compression type H.254 is? I >>> usually use sorenson 3. >>> >>> Also, if I am exporting quicktime videos for the web, what type of >>> compression do you recommend to have an equal balance of download >>> time >>> and video quality? >>> >>> Thanks in advance! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacDV mailing list >> MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From ddelmonte at mac.com Mon Oct 9 18:28:33 2006 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David DelMonte) Date: Mon Oct 9 18:28:45 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Compression type In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0E431B09-22B5-4891-BB62-D67BD990EC1E@mac.com> You are probably right about Real - I don't like it but I don't want to start another flame war. I forgot to add Flash to my top list. But am I right in that you should pick codecs based not only on the form of distribution (web, dvd, etc) but on which application you are using to distribute. David On Oct 9, 2006, at 9:22 PM, sb wrote: > REAL is a virus masquerading as an application. > > WM, FLASH and QT are the top 3 choices, IMHO. > > regards, > > sb > > > On 10/9/06 6:02 PM, "David DelMonte" wrote: > >> The latter (Flash) is also best if you do not want your video easily >> poached. If you want general distribution, the top three programs are >> QT, Real, and Windows Media. I believe that the latter two have >> proprietary codecs. Is that correct? >> >> David >> >> David >> >> On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:54 PM, sb wrote: >> >>> H.264 is the codec, just like sorenson 3 is a codec. You choose H. >>> 264 in the >>> compression application (QT or Compressor, etc) >>> >>> H.264 is very good for the web, that's what it was created for - to >>> maximize >>> quality with the smallest file sizes. >>> >>> That said, you need to know what your intended audience has - you >>> might be >>> better off using WMP (Windows Media Player) if most/all your >>> viewers are PC >>> people, or you might be better off with Flash 8 if you want to >>> stream a high >>> quality video. >>> >>> regards, >>> sb >>> >>> >>> On 10/9/06 7:19 AM, "CAM" wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone: >>>> >>>> Can someone please let me know what the compression type H.254 >>>> is? I >>>> usually use sorenson 3. >>>> >>>> Also, if I am exporting quicktime videos for the web, what type of >>>> compression do you recommend to have an equal balance of download >>>> time >>>> and video quality? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance! >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MacDV mailing list >>> MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv >>> >>> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >>> stuff: >>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacDV mailing list >> MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From woodland at infowest.com Mon Oct 9 18:28:59 2006 From: woodland at infowest.com (Ronald Woodland) Date: Mon Oct 9 18:29:03 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Compression type In-Reply-To: <20885209-F7C4-436C-BD0E-300A371FF35E@mac.com> References: <20885209-F7C4-436C-BD0E-300A371FF35E@mac.com> Message-ID: H.264 is an improved version of MPEG-4. Yes, it does very well streaming video on a web page, but it is also the codec specified in both of the new competing standards for delivering high definition on DVDs -- HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. This codec seems to do it all very well -- at low data rates and high. I've noticed that it does a much better job than MPEG-4 during transitions on low data rate video, especially. Yes, the Flash Player plug-in may be pre-installed on more browsers than any other and there may be more Windows users than other other -- that is all true. But what is also true is that for reliability and clean dependable delivery, Quicktime is so much better than either FLV, Real, or WMV technology. I have used Quicktime for years in cross-platform multimedia projects using Director. It's easy use and completely reliable. It's easy to test for the presence of Quicktime and the version number in a OS configuration within Director. I include the full Quicktime install on the CD-ROM or DVD-ROM and then automate the installation process for those of the Windows persuasion who may be clueless how to do it. I am sure this could be done on a web site using JavaScript, too. Of course, Microsoft would never agree to including Quicktime in their Windows install like they have the Flash Player. Remember when Microsoft bought Apple stock just after Steve Jobs returned to Apple ...when everyone was predicting Apple's demise ("Apple: going out of business for over 10 years")? Do you know why they did that? They were caught red-handed stealing Quicktime code and using it in their Windows Media Player. Steve needed the money and they were more than happy to settle rather than face public humiliation in another public court case. Quicktime is the best video delivery technology. Okay, I'm off my soapbox now. ------------------------------------------------- Ronald Woodland -- St. George, Utah 84770 ------------------------------------------------- ========================================= On Oct 9, 2006, at 7:02 PM, David DelMonte wrote: The latter (Flash) is also best if you do not want your video easily poached. If you want general distribution, the top three programs are QT, Real, and Windows Media. I believe that the latter two have proprietary codecs. Is that correct? David David On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:54 PM, sb wrote: > H.264 is the codec, just like sorenson 3 is a codec. You choose H. > 264 in the > compression application (QT or Compressor, etc) > > H.264 is very good for the web, that's what it was created for - to > maximize > quality with the smallest file sizes. > > That said, you need to know what your intended audience has - you > might be > better off using WMP (Windows Media Player) if most/all your > viewers are PC > people, or you might be better off with Flash 8 if you want to > stream a high > quality video. > > regards, > sb > > > On 10/9/06 7:19 AM, "CAM" wrote: > >> Hello everyone: >> >> Can someone please let me know what the compression type H.254 is? I >> usually use sorenson 3. >> >> Also, if I am exporting quicktime videos for the web, what type of >> compression do you recommend to have an equal balance of download >> time >> and video quality? >> >> Thanks in advance! > > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 _______________________________________________ MacDV mailing list MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From cfreeman at liberty.edu Mon Oct 9 18:35:31 2006 From: cfreeman at liberty.edu (Colt Freeman) Date: Mon Oct 9 18:35:48 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Compression type In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Quicktime is the BEST method, bar none; hands down no questions asked. There is no other solution, look at every single movie trailer on the internet. Look at the stand-alone site they build, every single one uses Quicktime, why do you think it's the standard codeq for most video authoring? (besides that bastion avid) Its the best, simply done. No freaking frame by frame in WMV grr... /Soapbox Regards, -Colt Freeman www.coltfreeman.com Contagious Ideal Productions Liberty: University Relations Campus Photographer Champion Photography Editor (919) 441-6401 On 10/9/06 9:28 PM, "Ronald Woodland" wrote: > H.264 is an improved version of MPEG-4. Yes, it does very well > streaming video on a web page, but it is also the codec specified in > both of the new competing standards for delivering high definition on > DVDs -- HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. This codec seems to do it all very well > -- at low data rates and high. I've noticed that it does a much > better job than MPEG-4 during transitions on low data rate video, > especially. > > Yes, the Flash Player plug-in may be pre-installed on more browsers > than any other and there may be more Windows users than other other > -- that is all true. But what is also true is that for reliability > and clean dependable delivery, Quicktime is so much better than > either FLV, Real, or WMV technology. > > I have used Quicktime for years in cross-platform multimedia projects > using Director. It's easy use and completely reliable. It's easy to > test for the presence of Quicktime and the version number in a OS > configuration within Director. I include the full Quicktime install > on the CD-ROM or DVD-ROM and then automate the installation process > for those of the Windows persuasion who may be clueless how to do > it. I am sure this could be done on a web site using JavaScript, too. > > Of course, Microsoft would never agree to including Quicktime in > their Windows install like they have the Flash Player. Remember when > Microsoft bought Apple stock just after Steve Jobs returned to > Apple ...when everyone was predicting Apple's demise ("Apple: going > out of business for over 10 years")? Do you know why they did that? > They were caught red-handed stealing Quicktime code and using it in > their Windows Media Player. Steve needed the money and they were > more than happy to settle rather than face public humiliation in > another public court case. > > Quicktime is the best video delivery technology. > > Okay, I'm off my soapbox now. > ------------------------------------------------- > Ronald Woodland -- St. George, Utah 84770 > ------------------------------------------------- > > ========================================= > On Oct 9, 2006, at 7:02 PM, David DelMonte wrote: > > The latter (Flash) is also best if you do not want your video easily > poached. If you want general distribution, the top three programs are > QT, Real, and Windows Media. I believe that the latter two have > proprietary codecs. Is that correct? > > David > > David > > On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:54 PM, sb wrote: > >> H.264 is the codec, just like sorenson 3 is a codec. You choose H. >> 264 in the >> compression application (QT or Compressor, etc) >> >> H.264 is very good for the web, that's what it was created for - to >> maximize >> quality with the smallest file sizes. >> >> That said, you need to know what your intended audience has - you >> might be >> better off using WMP (Windows Media Player) if most/all your >> viewers are PC >> people, or you might be better off with Flash 8 if you want to >> stream a high >> quality video. >> >> regards, >> sb >> >> >> On 10/9/06 7:19 AM, "CAM" wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone: >>> >>> Can someone please let me know what the compression type H.254 is? I >>> usually use sorenson 3. >>> >>> Also, if I am exporting quicktime videos for the web, what type of >>> compression do you recommend to have an equal balance of download >>> time >>> and video quality? >>> >>> Thanks in advance! >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacDV mailing list >> MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From merelyn_davi at internode.on.net Mon Oct 9 18:37:28 2006 From: merelyn_davi at internode.on.net (merelyn davi) Date: Mon Oct 9 18:37:51 2006 Subject: [MacDV] how to edit a VIDEO_TS folder Message-ID: <219EE329-E46B-4EB8-8645-D763EBFA9E9B@internode.on.net> sb, You said "If you have the MPEG2 componenent for Quicktime ($20) you can use MPEGStreamclip, which is free." Do I need that even though I have Quicktime Pro? I downloaded the mpeg streamclip, but my knowledge doesn't allow me to use it. Thanks for your suggestions. Merelyn From cfreeman at liberty.edu Mon Oct 9 19:05:59 2006 From: cfreeman at liberty.edu (Colt Freeman) Date: Mon Oct 9 19:06:11 2006 Subject: [MacDV] how to edit a VIDEO_TS folder In-Reply-To: <219EE329-E46B-4EB8-8645-D763EBFA9E9B@internode.on.net> Message-ID: It's an additional component than quicktime pro. Also can you explain what your doing a bit more for streamclip? I'd also recommend handbrake, easiest fastest and best ripper that I know of. Regards, -Colt Freeman www.coltfreeman.com Contagious Ideal Productions Liberty: University Relations Campus Photographer Champion Photography Editor (919) 441-6401 On 10/9/06 9:37 PM, "merelyn davi" wrote: > sb, > > You said > > "If you have the MPEG2 componenent for Quicktime ($20) you can use > MPEGStreamclip, which is free." > > Do I need that even though I have Quicktime Pro? > > I downloaded the mpeg streamclip, but my knowledge doesn't allow me > to use it. > > Thanks for your suggestions. > > Merelyn > > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From videovideo at mac.com Tue Oct 10 00:10:01 2006 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Tue Oct 10 00:10:10 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Compression type In-Reply-To: Message-ID: The latest version of WM is very good too. In many businesses, the applications on the company computers are locked. If QT is not installed by the IT department, then you are out of luck. That's when Flash works well, and WM. So, know your audience. just .02 worth regards, sb On 10/9/06 6:35 PM, "Colt Freeman" wrote: > Quicktime is the BEST method, bar none; hands down no questions asked. There > is no other solution, look at every single movie trailer on the internet. > Look at the stand-alone site they build, every single one uses Quicktime, > why do you think it's the standard codeq for most video authoring? (besides > that bastion avid) Its the best, simply done. > > No freaking frame by frame in WMV grr... > > /Soapbox > > > Regards, > -Colt Freeman > > www.coltfreeman.com > Contagious Ideal Productions > Liberty: University Relations Campus Photographer > Champion Photography Editor > (919) 441-6401 > > > > On 10/9/06 9:28 PM, "Ronald Woodland" wrote: > >> H.264 is an improved version of MPEG-4. Yes, it does very well >> streaming video on a web page, but it is also the codec specified in >> both of the new competing standards for delivering high definition on >> DVDs -- HD-DVD and Blu-Ray. This codec seems to do it all very well >> -- at low data rates and high. I've noticed that it does a much >> better job than MPEG-4 during transitions on low data rate video, >> especially. >> >> Yes, the Flash Player plug-in may be pre-installed on more browsers >> than any other and there may be more Windows users than other other >> -- that is all true. But what is also true is that for reliability >> and clean dependable delivery, Quicktime is so much better than >> either FLV, Real, or WMV technology. >> >> I have used Quicktime for years in cross-platform multimedia projects >> using Director. It's easy use and completely reliable. It's easy to >> test for the presence of Quicktime and the version number in a OS >> configuration within Director. I include the full Quicktime install >> on the CD-ROM or DVD-ROM and then automate the installation process >> for those of the Windows persuasion who may be clueless how to do >> it. I am sure this could be done on a web site using JavaScript, too. >> >> Of course, Microsoft would never agree to including Quicktime in >> their Windows install like they have the Flash Player. Remember when >> Microsoft bought Apple stock just after Steve Jobs returned to >> Apple ...when everyone was predicting Apple's demise ("Apple: going >> out of business for over 10 years")? Do you know why they did that? >> They were caught red-handed stealing Quicktime code and using it in >> their Windows Media Player. Steve needed the money and they were >> more than happy to settle rather than face public humiliation in >> another public court case. >> >> Quicktime is the best video delivery technology. >> >> Okay, I'm off my soapbox now. >> ------------------------------------------------- >> Ronald Woodland -- St. George, Utah 84770 >> ------------------------------------------------- >> >> ========================================= >> On Oct 9, 2006, at 7:02 PM, David DelMonte wrote: >> >> The latter (Flash) is also best if you do not want your video easily >> poached. If you want general distribution, the top three programs are >> QT, Real, and Windows Media. I believe that the latter two have >> proprietary codecs. Is that correct? >> >> David >> >> David >> >> On Oct 9, 2006, at 8:54 PM, sb wrote: >> >>> H.264 is the codec, just like sorenson 3 is a codec. You choose H. >>> 264 in the >>> compression application (QT or Compressor, etc) >>> >>> H.264 is very good for the web, that's what it was created for - to >>> maximize >>> quality with the smallest file sizes. >>> >>> That said, you need to know what your intended audience has - you >>> might be >>> better off using WMP (Windows Media Player) if most/all your >>> viewers are PC >>> people, or you might be better off with Flash 8 if you want to >>> stream a high >>> quality video. >>> >>> regards, >>> sb >>> >>> >>> On 10/9/06 7:19 AM, "CAM" wrote: >>> >>>> Hello everyone: >>>> >>>> Can someone please let me know what the compression type H.254 is? I >>>> usually use sorenson 3. >>>> >>>> Also, if I am exporting quicktime videos for the web, what type of >>>> compression do you recommend to have an equal balance of download >>>> time >>>> and video quality? >>>> >>>> Thanks in advance! From videovideo at mac.com Tue Oct 10 00:13:44 2006 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Tue Oct 10 00:13:53 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: how to edit a VIDEO_TS folder In-Reply-To: <219EE329-E46B-4EB8-8645-D763EBFA9E9B@internode.on.net> Message-ID: The MPEG2 component comes with DVD Studio Pro. If you don't have that application, then you will have to go to Apple Downloads and buy the MPEG2 component. There are other solutions that don't require you to buy the Apple MPEG2 component, it's just that MPEGStreamclip is a very good application. Once you have the MPEG2 component, you look under the File menu and choose DV as the codec. You also need a place to save your ripped files (and remember, DV video takes up 12GB per hour) You can also use the in and out markers to choose a chunk, if you don't want the entire movie. Then choose a VOB (the biggest one will be the main movie) and off you go ripping. hth, sb On 10/9/06 6:37 PM, "merelyn davi" wrote: > sb, > > You said > > "If you have the MPEG2 componenent for Quicktime ($20) you can use > MPEGStreamclip, which is free." > > Do I need that even though I have Quicktime Pro? > > I downloaded the mpeg streamclip, but my knowledge doesn't allow me > to use it. > > Thanks for your suggestions. > > Merelyn > From janjay at mac.com Tue Oct 10 04:38:16 2006 From: janjay at mac.com (Joan Keenan) Date: Tue Oct 10 05:06:46 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Final Cut Express ghost help Message-ID: <0E3F490C-593D-4A27-BE35-A541D0A86FEF@mac.com> Hi all, I'm new to Final Cut Express and am trying to assemble a series of about 10 short sequences into a final sequence. I have been able to drag the sequences into order and play as the final video. The problem I am encountering is in couple of sequence where there are short slips fading in and out over the main clip. i.e. teacher talking about playing jacks, fade in hand throwing jacks, and back to main footage fade in picking up jacks, back to main clip. These work fine in the sequence, but twice now in the large sequence the fade ins start in the wrong place and then repeat in the correct place....when the individual sequence is double clicked the fade ins are in the right place! and don't exist where they show up!!! The ghost clips are haunting me. So far the only solution has been to go back to the original sequence, delete the clip involved and reinsert....then replace the sequence in the final video. So far it has happened twice with different clips....each time when there are a couple of short fadeins and outs. Any ideas what to do to avoid this??? Joan Keenan Mac Mini intel 2 gb ram FCE HD 3.5 10.4.8 From cfreeman at liberty.edu Tue Oct 10 08:20:42 2006 From: cfreeman at liberty.edu (Colt Freeman) Date: Tue Oct 10 08:21:03 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Final Cut Express ghost help In-Reply-To: <0E3F490C-593D-4A27-BE35-A541D0A86FEF@mac.com> Message-ID: Can you upload a sample clip? On 10/10/06 7:38 AM, "Joan Keenan" wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm new to Final Cut Express and am trying to assemble a series of > about 10 short sequences into a final sequence. I have been able to > drag the sequences into order and play as the final video. The > problem I am encountering is in couple of sequence where there are > short slips fading in and out over the main clip. i.e. teacher > talking about playing jacks, fade in hand throwing jacks, and back to > main footage fade in picking up jacks, back to main clip. These work > fine in the sequence, but twice now in the large sequence the fade > ins start in the wrong place and then repeat in the correct > place....when the individual sequence is double clicked the fade ins > are in the right place! and don't exist where they show up!!! The > ghost clips are haunting me. > > So far the only solution has been to go back to the original > sequence, delete the clip involved and reinsert....then replace the > sequence in the final video. So far it has happened twice with > different clips....each time when there are a couple of short fadeins > and outs. > > Any ideas what to do to avoid this??? > > Joan Keenan > > Mac Mini intel 2 gb ram > FCE HD 3.5 > 10.4.8 > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From videovideo at mac.com Tue Oct 10 15:06:27 2006 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Tue Oct 10 15:06:47 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Final Cut Express ghost help In-Reply-To: <0E3F490C-593D-4A27-BE35-A541D0A86FEF@mac.com> Message-ID: You should trash the render files and rebuild it. Render files are located: inside the scratch disk inside the Final Cut Express folder. On 10/10/06 4:38 AM, "Joan Keenan" wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm new to Final Cut Express and am trying to assemble a series of > about 10 short sequences into a final sequence. I have been able to > drag the sequences into order and play as the final video. The > problem I am encountering is in couple of sequence where there are > short slips fading in and out over the main clip. i.e. teacher > talking about playing jacks, fade in hand throwing jacks, and back to > main footage fade in picking up jacks, back to main clip. These work > fine in the sequence, but twice now in the large sequence the fade > ins start in the wrong place and then repeat in the correct > place....when the individual sequence is double clicked the fade ins > are in the right place! and don't exist where they show up!!! The > ghost clips are haunting me. > > So far the only solution has been to go back to the original > sequence, delete the clip involved and reinsert....then replace the > sequence in the final video. So far it has happened twice with > different clips....each time when there are a couple of short fadeins > and outs. > > Any ideas what to do to avoid this??? > > Joan Keenan > > Mac Mini intel 2 gb ram > FCE HD 3.5 > 10.4.8 > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From merelyn_davi at internode.on.net Tue Oct 10 15:26:14 2006 From: merelyn_davi at internode.on.net (merelyn davi) Date: Tue Oct 10 15:26:29 2006 Subject: [MacDV] how to edit a VIDEO_TS folder Message-ID: Original question: How to edit a VIDEO_TS folder Response from Colt, "It's an additional component than quicktime pro. Also can you explain what your doing a bit more for streamclip? I'd also recommend handbrake, easiest fastest and best ripper that I know of." Answer: I have a video_ts folder which I want to edit somehow. I want to edit portions of it and burn onto a dvd so it will play in a dvd player. 1 suggestion was to use streamclip, but when I read how to use it, t'was all over my head!! I didn't think it would do what I was wanting, even though it probably does. I have downloaded handbrake and that seems to be more like what I am wanting, and I might even be able to understand how to use it. Merelyn From cfreeman at liberty.edu Tue Oct 10 16:46:23 2006 From: cfreeman at liberty.edu (Colt Freeman) Date: Tue Oct 10 16:46:26 2006 Subject: [MacDV] how to edit a VIDEO_TS folder In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Awsome, glad it does what you needed it to do. What are you using to edit the files with? -Colt On 10/10/06 6:26 PM, "merelyn davi" wrote: > Original question: > > How to edit a VIDEO_TS folder > > Response from Colt, > > "It's an additional component than quicktime pro. Also can you > explain what > your doing a bit more for streamclip? > > I'd also recommend handbrake, easiest fastest and best ripper that I > know > of." > > Answer: > > I have a video_ts folder which I want to edit somehow. I want to edit > portions of it and burn onto a dvd so it will play in a dvd player. > > 1 suggestion was to use streamclip, but when I read how to use it, > t'was all over my head!! I didn't think it would do what I was > wanting, even though it probably does. > > I have downloaded handbrake and that seems to be more like what I am > wanting, and I might even be able to understand how to use it. > > Merelyn > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From merelyn_davi at internode.on.net Tue Oct 10 17:09:03 2006 From: merelyn_davi at internode.on.net (merelyn davi) Date: Tue Oct 10 17:12:38 2006 Subject: [MacDV] how to edit a VIDEO_TS folder Message-ID: Awsome, glad it does what you needed it to do. What are you using to edit the files with? -Colt Reply Have you any suggestions what I can use? Merelyn -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061011/29029308/attachment-0001.html From doctormac2 at verizon.net Wed Oct 11 17:00:27 2006 From: doctormac2 at verizon.net (K. John Barr) Date: Wed Oct 11 17:00:57 2006 Subject: [MacDV] file problems Message-ID: I saved my imovie file to an external firewire HD (formatted for Mac) and it shows up, but light gray, so I can't get to it. Help and thanks. John From rgb at ellerbach.com Wed Oct 11 17:16:05 2006 From: rgb at ellerbach.com (Rich) Date: Wed Oct 11 17:16:35 2006 Subject: [MacDV] file problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <452D8945.3000707@ellerbach.com> On 11-10-2006 20:00, K. John Barr wrote: > I saved my imovie file to an external firewire HD (formatted for > Mac) and it shows up, but light gray, so I can't get to it. > Saved it how John? What steps did you go through to save it? Can't really make any suggestions without knowing more about what you did and what you intended to do. What versions of iM and OSX? Rich From merelyn_davi at internode.on.net Wed Oct 11 18:12:32 2006 From: merelyn_davi at internode.on.net (merelyn davi) Date: Wed Oct 11 18:13:17 2006 Subject: [MacDV] how to edit a VIDEO_TS folder Message-ID: <0C6D961E-6BBF-43F9-93FD-211E4B394682@internode.on.net> > Original question: > > How to edit a VIDEO_TS folder > > Original question. How to edit a VIDEO_TS folder. Well I got this job done using DVDxDV I was able to save the portions of the video_ts folder that I was wanting. I imported them into iMovie and did the final bits of editing. Exported it to iDVD and burnt it. I did use handbrake and found it great. I did download streamclip, and am going to spend some time learning how to use it properly as I think it will help me do other jobs that I am having difficulty doing. Thanks guys for your help. Merelyn From aaronrobinsonproducer at hotmail.com Fri Oct 13 18:32:12 2006 From: aaronrobinsonproducer at hotmail.com (aaron robinsun) Date: Fri Oct 13 18:32:23 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Final Cut Express Problem Message-ID: I really only have one problem. After working with final cut and exporting a completed project in quicktime movie format, i take my completed fideos and burn them on a DVD through iDVD. Only problem is, when i look at the DVD with a regular dvd player connected to a regular tv, the picture is weird. It looks like at all so actions scenes where there is movment, the picture gets a little pixeled or it jumps. I have only been working with final cut express for about a month now and i just recently noticed this. Could it be somthing i am doing? is there a different way to convert the movie to fix it? Or is there nothing at all i can do about it? I am thinking of getting one of those sony HD camcorders, the cheaper HC-3, will that solve my problems? _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip From aaronrobinsonproducer at hotmail.com Fri Oct 13 18:39:39 2006 From: aaronrobinsonproducer at hotmail.com (aaron robinsun) Date: Fri Oct 13 18:39:46 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Final Cut Express Problem Message-ID: I really only have one problem. After working with final cut and exporting a completed project in quicktime movie format, i take my completed videos and burn them on a DVD through iDVD. Only problem is, when i look at the DVD with a regular dvd player connected to a regular tv, the picture is weird. It looks like in actions scenes where there is movment, the picture gets a little pixeled or it jumps. I have only been working with final cut express for about a month now and i just recently noticed this. Could it be somthing i am doing? is there a different way to convert the movie to fix it? Or is there nothing at all i can do about it? I am thinking of getting one of those sony HD camcorders, the cheaper HC-3, will that solve my problems? CAn anyone Help Me??? Aaron Robinson iMac 2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 1.5 GB RAM FCE HD 3.5 _________________________________________________________________ Get today's hot entertainment gossip http://movies.msn.com/movies/hotgossip From gerhardk at mac.com Fri Oct 13 19:07:29 2006 From: gerhardk at mac.com (Gerhard Kuhn) Date: Fri Oct 13 19:07:50 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Final Cut Express Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <02014422-6551-402F-B791-78E44C4EB5BB@mac.com> How many DVD players have you tried playing your disks on? Some players have trouble playing burned disks and they will not play smoothly. I have found three things that help 1) switching brand of dvd-r 2) making the content of the disk longer than one hour, what this does is reduce the bit rate of the mpg2 compression resulting in a better chance of playing smoothly. 3) switching the dvd player, take your disk to a large electronics store and try playing it on several of their machines Hope this is of help Gerhard On Oct 13, 2006, at 9:39 PM, aaron robinsun wrote: > I really only have one problem. After working with final cut and > exporting a completed project in quicktime movie format, i take my > completed videos and burn them on a DVD through iDVD. Only problem > is, when i look at the DVD with a regular dvd player connected to a > regular tv, the picture is weird. > > It looks like in actions scenes where there is movment, the picture > gets a little pixeled or it jumps. I have only been working with > final cut express for about a month now and i just recently noticed > this. > > Could it be somthing i am doing? is there a different way to > convert the movie to fix it? Or is there nothing at all i can do > about it? > > I am thinking of getting one of those sony HD camcorders, the > cheaper HC-3, will that solve my problems? > > CAn anyone Help Me??? > > > > > Aaron Robinson > > iMac 2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 1.5 GB RAM > FCE HD 3.5 > From videovideo at mac.com Fri Oct 13 20:04:41 2006 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Fri Oct 13 20:06:07 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Final Cut Express Problem In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What versions of FCE and iDVD are you using? How long are the movies? What encoding setting do you have set in iDVD? Best Performance? Change to Best Quality. regards, sb On 10/13/06 6:32 PM, "aaron robinsun" wrote: > I really only have one problem. After working with final cut and exporting > a completed project in quicktime movie format, i take my completed fideos > and burn them on a DVD through iDVD. Only problem is, when i look at the > DVD with a regular dvd player connected to a regular tv, the picture is > weird. > > It looks like at all so actions scenes where there is movment, the picture > gets a little pixeled or it jumps. I have only been working with final cut > express for about a month now and i just recently noticed this. > > Could it be somthing i am doing? is there a different way to convert the > movie to fix it? Or is there nothing at all i can do about it? > > I am thinking of getting one of those sony HD camcorders, the cheaper HC-3, > will that solve my problems? From aaronrobinsonproducer at hotmail.com Sat Oct 14 11:42:28 2006 From: aaronrobinsonproducer at hotmail.com (aaron robinsun) Date: Sat Oct 14 11:42:37 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Final Cut Express Problem In-Reply-To: <02014422-6551-402F-B791-78E44C4EB5BB@mac.com> Message-ID: well i have played it on 4 different dvd players and had the same outcome. I think is has to do with somethig else because it seems like the picture plays exactly the same on everyone, jumping during moving sceens. Could it be because some frames were dropped? Aaron >From: Gerhard Kuhn >Reply-To: "A place to discuss digital video on Macintosh." > >To: "A place to discuss digital video on Macintosh." > >Subject: Re: [MacDV] Final Cut Express Problem >Date: Fri, 13 Oct 2006 22:07:29 -0400 > >How many DVD players have you tried playing your disks on? Some players >have trouble playing burned disks and they will not play smoothly. I have >found three things that help 1) switching brand of dvd-r 2) making the >content of the disk longer than one hour, what this does is reduce the bit >rate of the mpg2 compression resulting in a better chance of playing >smoothly. 3) switching the dvd player, take your disk to a large >electronics store and try playing it on several of their machines > >Hope this is of help > >Gerhard > > >On Oct 13, 2006, at 9:39 PM, aaron robinsun wrote: > >>I really only have one problem. After working with final cut and >>exporting a completed project in quicktime movie format, i take my >>completed videos and burn them on a DVD through iDVD. Only problem is, >>when i look at the DVD with a regular dvd player connected to a regular >>tv, the picture is weird. >> >>It looks like in actions scenes where there is movment, the picture gets >>a little pixeled or it jumps. I have only been working with final cut >>express for about a month now and i just recently noticed this. >> >>Could it be somthing i am doing? is there a different way to convert the >>movie to fix it? Or is there nothing at all i can do about it? >> >>I am thinking of getting one of those sony HD camcorders, the cheaper >>HC-3, will that solve my problems? >> >>CAn anyone Help Me??? >> >> >> >> >>Aaron Robinson >> >>iMac 2.16GHz Intel Core 2 Duo 1.5 GB RAM >>FCE HD 3.5 >> > >_______________________________________________ >MacDV mailing list >MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself - download free Windows Live Messenger themes! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwme0020000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://imagine-msn.com/themes/vibe/default.aspx?locale=en-us&source=hmtagline From rgb at ellerbach.com Sat Oct 14 11:53:02 2006 From: rgb at ellerbach.com (Rich) Date: Sat Oct 14 11:53:15 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Final Cut Express Problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4531320E.90602@ellerbach.com> On 13-10-2006 21:32, aaron robinsun wrote: > I really only have one problem. After working with final cut and exporting > a completed project in quicktime movie format, i take my completed fideos > and burn them on a DVD through iDVD. Only problem is, when i look at the > DVD with a regular dvd player connected to a regular tv, the picture is > weird. > The FCE playback on your computer looks good? The iDVD preview looks good? Playing the burned DVD on your computer looks good? But the burned DVD on a standalone DVD player looks not good. Is that all correct? Sounds like the suggestion sb made about "best quality" is the first thing to try. Rich From aaronrobinsonproducer at hotmail.com Sat Oct 14 17:53:39 2006 From: aaronrobinsonproducer at hotmail.com (aaron robinsun) Date: Sat Oct 14 17:53:56 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Final Cut Express Problem In-Reply-To: <4531320E.90602@ellerbach.com> Message-ID: Everything looked good, even the preview on iDVD. It looked pixeled when i played the dvd on my computer and other dvd players. And i dont think the problem is the DVD because i used two different brands of DVD-R >From: Rich >Reply-To: "A place to discuss digital video on Macintosh." > >To: "A place to discuss digital video on Macintosh." > >Subject: Re: [MacDV] Final Cut Express Problem >Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 14:53:02 -0400 > >On 13-10-2006 21:32, aaron robinsun wrote: >>I really only have one problem. After working with final cut and >>exporting a completed project in quicktime movie format, i take my >>completed fideos and burn them on a DVD through iDVD. Only problem is, >>when i look at the DVD with a regular dvd player connected to a regular >>tv, the picture is weird. >> > >The FCE playback on your computer looks good? > >The iDVD preview looks good? > >Playing the burned DVD on your computer looks good? > >But the burned DVD on a standalone DVD player looks not good. > >Is that all correct? > > >Sounds like the suggestion sb made about "best quality" is the first thing >to try. > >Rich >_______________________________________________ >MacDV mailing list >MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 _________________________________________________________________ All-in-one security and maintenance for your PC.  Get a free 90-day trial! http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwlo0050000001msn/direct/01/?href=http://www.windowsonecare.com/?sc_cid=msn_hotmail From nevillet at clear.net.nz Sat Oct 14 18:15:01 2006 From: nevillet at clear.net.nz (Neville Thomas) Date: Sat Oct 14 18:15:09 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Final Cut Express Problem Everything looked good, even the preview on iDVD. It looked pixeled when i played the dvd on my computer and other dvd players. And i dont think the problem is the DVD because i used two different brands of DVD-R Message-ID: <47F9E0D6-88F0-47B7-B0F2-F2422E441FED@clear.net.nz> aaronrobinsonproducer@hotmail.com said Everything looked good, even the preview on iDVD. It looked pixeled when i played the dvd on my computer and other dvd players. And i dont think the problem is the DVD because i used two different brands of DVD-R Have you ensured that there is plenty of memory available and that there are no other applications running during the encoding process? Neville Thomas in Auckland NZ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061015/749ecc90/attachment.html From raingod1 at mac.com Sun Oct 15 06:56:52 2006 From: raingod1 at mac.com (Cameron MacLeod) Date: Sun Oct 15 06:57:41 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: Final Cut Express Problem In-Reply-To: <20061015005400.C37392CFEBB@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20061015005400.C37392CFEBB@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <865D4065-8B7D-4D3A-AD7D-F1403201F4F1@mac.com> I've just finished y first large project in FCE 3.5 (1.5 hour video) and iDVD 6 and also had some problem with pixelation in certain moving sections. The fix that seemed to work for me was having iDVD encoding to a relatively empty Hard Disk (avoiding chances of disk access interrupting the encoding process) and saving as an IMG file rather than burning directly to DVD. Then I burned the IMG file to HD later. At least this seemed to work for me - of course it could have been something else completely. On 14-Oct-06, at 8:54 PM, macdv- request@listserver.themacintoshguy.com wrote: > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 14 Oct 2006 17:53:39 -0700 > From: "aaron robinsun" > Subject: Re: [MacDV] Final Cut Express Problem > To: macdv@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > > Everything looked good, even the preview on iDVD. It looked > pixeled when i > played the dvd on my computer and other dvd players. And i dont > think the > problem is the DVD because i used two different brands of DVD-R -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061015/7a9d8bcd/attachment.html From carlian at picknowl.com.au Mon Oct 16 01:36:48 2006 From: carlian at picknowl.com.au (carlian) Date: Mon Oct 16 01:38:14 2006 Subject: [MacDV] FCP- Importing Music Files & Transitions containing Artifacts Message-ID: <0D750A8E-E236-441D-9575-CC4F9D182B22@picknowl.com.au> I am using the latest version of FCP on a 2.66 duo-core MacPro. When I try to import music into FCP from iTunes the iTunes library is greyed out and upon going to User>Music>iTunes>iTunes Music I end up with a list of artists rather than "songs". I have been getting around this by dragging a copy of the music I require from the actual iTunes window to the Desktop and then importing the resultant file into FCP. Can someone give me a clue how to access the iTunes library from FCP please? My other problem is that when I go to do "dissolve", or "Iris" transitions in the timeline I end up with footage (artifacts?) from a completely unrelated clip appearing within part of the transition. I have tried closing down FCP and reopening it but the same thing still happens. There is no sign of the unwanted footage between the two clips prior to attempting to do a transition. I never had this problem in iMovie. Any clues please? Ian Tucker From ross at dmrmail.com Mon Oct 16 05:16:14 2006 From: ross at dmrmail.com (Dominion Market Research) Date: Mon Oct 16 05:16:44 2006 Subject: [MacDV] FCP- Importing Music Files In-Reply-To: <0D750A8E-E236-441D-9575-CC4F9D182B22@picknowl.com.au> References: <0D750A8E-E236-441D-9575-CC4F9D182B22@picknowl.com.au> Message-ID: Ian, I believe the iTunes issue has to do with Copyright protection on the music. You need to take extra steps such as what you've done or burn the music to a CD and then import into FCP/E. Ross Hunter Orange, VA >I am using the latest version of FCP on a 2.66 duo-core MacPro. > >When I try to import music into FCP from iTunes the iTunes library >is greyed out and upon going to User>Music>iTunes>iTunes Music I end >up with a list of artists rather than "songs". I have been getting >around this by dragging a copy of the music I require from the >actual iTunes window to the Desktop and then importing the resultant >file into FCP. > >Can someone give me a clue how to access the iTunes library from FCP please? > > > >My other problem is that when I go to do "dissolve", or "Iris" >transitions in the timeline I end up with footage (artifacts?) from >a completely unrelated clip appearing within part of the transition. >I have tried closing down FCP and reopening it but the same thing >still happens. There is no sign of the unwanted footage between >the two clips prior to attempting to do a transition. I never had >this problem in iMovie. > >Any clues please? > >Ian Tucker >_______________________________________________ >MacDV mailing list >MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -- Dominion Market Research-mailing services for Central Virginia 309 Madison Road PO Box 791 Orange VA 22960-0464 USA 1-540-672-2327 1-800-328-2588 fax: 1-540-672-0296 http://www.dmrmail.com _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From lcotler at willitsonline.com Mon Oct 16 21:24:23 2006 From: lcotler at willitsonline.com (Lanny Cotler) Date: Tue Oct 17 00:10:32 2006 Subject: [MacDV] FCP- Importing Music Files & Transitions containing Artifacts In-Reply-To: <0D750A8E-E236-441D-9575-CC4F9D182B22@picknowl.com.au> References: <0D750A8E-E236-441D-9575-CC4F9D182B22@picknowl.com.au> Message-ID: I don't know the answer to your first problem. But I think I do to your second. That unrelated clip that appears ghost-like during the transition is either: 1) a "stalker" from another dimension, or, 2) the result of your transition "handles" coming from the directly adjacent shot on what you captured. I'll bet your clip ends precisely on the border between shots. Playing from IN to OUT won't show it; but pull out the clip a little bit and voil?! Lanny >I am using the latest version of FCP on a 2.66 duo-core MacPro. > >When I try to import music into FCP from iTunes >the iTunes library is greyed out and upon going >to User>Music>iTunes>iTunes Music I end up with >a list of artists rather than "songs". I have >been getting around this by dragging a copy of >the music I require from the actual iTunes >window to the Desktop and then importing the >resultant file into FCP. > >Can someone give me a clue how to access the iTunes library from FCP please? > > > >My other problem is that when I go to do >"dissolve", or "Iris" transitions in the >timeline I end up with footage (artifacts?) from >a completely unrelated clip appearing within >part of the transition. I have tried closing >down FCP and reopening it but the same thing >still happens. There is no sign of the >unwanted footage between the two clips prior to >attempting to do a transition. I never had this >problem in iMovie. > >Any clues please? > >Ian Tucker -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061016/0a9bb514/attachment.html From carlian at picknowl.com.au Tue Oct 17 02:03:35 2006 From: carlian at picknowl.com.au (carlian) Date: Tue Oct 17 02:04:52 2006 Subject: [MacDV] FCP- Importing Music Files & Transitions containing Artifacts Message-ID: <442E9E97-E052-4E24-8FDB-FDEBA58A5D0A@picknowl.com.au> Thanks for your answer Ross. I note what you have written, but then why are there no problems when using iMovie ? When I drill down through the folders in FCP I get a list of artists from which I can import music, but what I want is a list of the songs in iTunes (as they appear in the iTunes Library). Ian T. On 16/10/2006, at 9:46 PM, Dominion Market Research wrote: > Ian, > > I believe the iTunes issue has to do with Copyright protection on > the music. You need to take extra steps such as what you've done or > burn the music to a CD and then import into FCP/E. > > Ross Hunter > Orange, VA > > >> I am using the latest version of FCP on a 2.66 duo-core MacPro. >> >> When I try to import music into FCP from iTunes the iTunes library >> is greyed out and upon going to User>Music>iTunes>iTunes Music I >> end up with a list of artists rather than "songs". I have been >> getting around this by dragging a copy of the music I require from >> the actual iTunes window to the Desktop and then importing the >> resultant file into FCP. >> >> Can someone give me a clue how to access the iTunes library from >> FCP please? >> >> >> >> My other problem is that when I go to do "dissolve", or "Iris" >> transitions in the timeline I end up with footage (artifacts?) >> from a completely unrelated clip appearing within part of the >> transition. I have tried closing down FCP and reopening it but the >> same thing still happens. There is no sign of the unwanted >> footage between the two clips prior to attempting to do a >> transition. I never had this problem in iMovie. >> >> Any clues please? >> >> Ian Tucker >> _______________________________________________ >> MacDV mailing list >> MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >> > > From videovideo at mac.com Tue Oct 17 09:20:53 2006 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Tue Oct 17 09:21:15 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: FCP- Importing Music Files & Transitions containing Artifacts In-Reply-To: <442E9E97-E052-4E24-8FDB-FDEBA58A5D0A@picknowl.com.au> Message-ID: If it's purchased music, you cannnot without ripping it first. Use either the CD method, or my fav, iMovie. If it's not purchased music, then it's most likely because you didn't import into iTunes in the correct codec/sample rate. You tune needs to be 48khz and .aiff. If that's the case, go into the iTunes Preferences and change the Import. Then, select the song, right click and change it. It's also under the Advanced menu. As for the ghosting, Lanny's suggestion is one possible cause (make sure you cut you clips on shot changes so this doesn't happen - use DV Start/Stop detection to do it automatically for you) The other possibility is that a render file has gotten "stuck". To force a re-render, just turn off visibility (the green dot) on the track with the transitions. You'll get a warning, go ahead and do it, then re-render. regards, sb On 10/17/06 2:03 AM, "carlian" wrote: > Thanks for your answer Ross. > > I note what you have written, but then why are there no problems when > using iMovie ? > > When I drill down through the folders in FCP I get a list of artists > from which I can import music, but what I want is a list of the songs > in iTunes (as they appear in the iTunes Library). > > Ian T. > On 16/10/2006, at 9:46 PM, Dominion Market Research wrote: > > >> Ian, >> >> I believe the iTunes issue has to do with Copyright protection on >> the music. You need to take extra steps such as what you've done or >> burn the music to a CD and then import into FCP/E. >> >> Ross Hunter >> Orange, VA >> >> >>> I am using the latest version of FCP on a 2.66 duo-core MacPro. >>> >>> When I try to import music into FCP from iTunes the iTunes library >>> is greyed out and upon going to User>Music>iTunes>iTunes Music I >>> end up with a list of artists rather than "songs". I have been >>> getting around this by dragging a copy of the music I require from >>> the actual iTunes window to the Desktop and then importing the >>> resultant file into FCP. >>> >>> Can someone give me a clue how to access the iTunes library from >>> FCP please? >>> >>> >>> >>> My other problem is that when I go to do "dissolve", or "Iris" >>> transitions in the timeline I end up with footage (artifacts?) >>> from a completely unrelated clip appearing within part of the >>> transition. I have tried closing down FCP and reopening it but the >>> same thing still happens. There is no sign of the unwanted >>> footage between the two clips prior to attempting to do a >>> transition. I never had this problem in iMovie. >>> >>> Any clues please? >>> >>> Ian Tucker From shirleykat at cox.net Tue Oct 17 17:20:27 2006 From: shirleykat at cox.net (Shirley Kehr) Date: Tue Oct 17 17:16:33 2006 Subject: [MacDV] FCP- Importing Music Files & Transitions containing Artifacts In-Reply-To: <442E9E97-E052-4E24-8FDB-FDEBA58A5D0A@picknowl.com.au> References: <442E9E97-E052-4E24-8FDB-FDEBA58A5D0A@picknowl.com.au> Message-ID: <60FF6371-0700-4871-888D-BA0363DEE04B@cox.net> I don't know anything about FCP, so this is just a guess. How do you have your iTunes library sorted. If the artist column head is highlighted, try switching to the Song Name column and see if that makes a difference. Shirley On Oct 17, 2006, at 2:03 AM, carlian wrote: > When I drill down through the folders in FCP I get a list of > artists from which I can import music, but what I want is a list of > the songs in iTunes (as they appear in the iTunes Library). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061017/d5a9aaba/attachment.html From jimash at optonline.net Tue Oct 17 17:29:05 2006 From: jimash at optonline.net (James Asherman) Date: Tue Oct 17 17:29:12 2006 Subject: [MacDV] FCP- Importing Music Files & Transitions containing Artifacts In-Reply-To: <60FF6371-0700-4871-888D-BA0363DEE04B@cox.net> References: <442E9E97-E052-4E24-8FDB-FDEBA58A5D0A@picknowl.com.au> <60FF6371-0700-4871-888D-BA0363DEE04B@cox.net> Message-ID: <44952FF1-0B5F-4A20-9603-C4923F6468A0@optonline.net> On Oct 17, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Shirley Kehr wrote: > I don't know anything about FCP, so this is just a guess. How do > you have your iTunes library sorted. If the artist column head is > highlighted, try switching to the Song Name column and see if that > makes a difference. > > Shirley > > On Oct 17, 2006, at 2:03 AM, carlian wrote: > >> When I drill down through the folders in FCP I get a list of >> artists from which I can import music, but what I want is a list >> of the songs in iTunes (as they appear in the iTunes Library). > Final Cut Pro does not interface with iLife applications. It has no iTunes support. IF you have to use songs that are in iTunes, drag them out of iTunes (right out of the list) into a folder on your desktop. Then you want to run each one through QuickTime Pro and make it AIFF 48K (assuming that is what you are doing your timeline as). If all of your iTunes are already 48k aiff you can skip the QT. (but usually they are not) Then import the folder with your newly converted tunes and throw away all other versions lying around. easier than it sounds. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061017/69ff34f8/attachment.html From gordon.alley at gmail.com Tue Oct 17 20:40:17 2006 From: gordon.alley at gmail.com (Gordon Alley) Date: Tue Oct 17 20:40:25 2006 Subject: [MacDV] FCP- Importing Music Files & Transitions containing Artifacts In-Reply-To: <44952FF1-0B5F-4A20-9603-C4923F6468A0@optonline.net> References: <442E9E97-E052-4E24-8FDB-FDEBA58A5D0A@picknowl.com.au> <60FF6371-0700-4871-888D-BA0363DEE04B@cox.net> <44952FF1-0B5F-4A20-9603-C4923F6468A0@optonline.net> Message-ID: <9694f6510610172040p3b8cc1cer85adc84d69ef1507@mail.gmail.com> You can use iTunes to convert an iTunes selection to AIFF. First, make sure that the iTunes preference is set to Import using the AIFF encoder (yeah, that's not a typo -- you want to set the IMPORT preference). You get there by selecting iTunes->Preferences...->Advanced->Importing->Import Using->AIFF Encoder. Then right-click (or CTRL-click) on the tune you want to convert, and select Convert Selection to AIFF. It will creat an AIFF copy of the selected file (you probably want to sort by Name so it will appear nearby). Then you can drag a copy of the AIFF file to the desktop or wherever. After doing that, you might want to delete the AIFF duplicate from your iTunes library. The files look the same in the list, but you can use cmd-I (Get Info) to determine which is which. Gordon On 10/17/06, James Asherman wrote: > > > > On Oct 17, 2006, at 8:20 PM, Shirley Kehr wrote: > I don't know anything about FCP, so this is just a guess. How do you have > your iTunes library sorted. If the artist column head is highlighted, try > switching to the Song Name column and see if that makes a difference. > > Shirley > > > On Oct 17, 2006, at 2:03 AM, carlian wrote: > > When I drill down through the folders in FCP I get a list of artists from > which I can import music, but what I want is a list of the songs in iTunes > (as they appear in the iTunes Library). > > > Final Cut Pro does not interface with iLife applications. It has no iTunes > support. > IF you have to use songs that are in iTunes, drag them out of iTunes (right > out of the list) into a folder on your desktop. > Then you want to run each one through QuickTime Pro and make it AIFF 48K > (assuming that is what you are doing your timeline as). > If all of your iTunes are already 48k aiff you can skip the QT. (but usually > they are not) > Then import the folder with your newly converted tunes and throw away all > other versions lying around. > easier than it sounds. > Jim > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > -- Gordon B. Alley http://galley.home.texas.net From ross at dmrmail.com Wed Oct 18 05:18:41 2006 From: ross at dmrmail.com (Dominion Market Research) Date: Wed Oct 18 05:19:33 2006 Subject: [MacDV] FCP- Importing Music Files In-Reply-To: <442E9E97-E052-4E24-8FDB-FDEBA58A5D0A@picknowl.com.au> References: <442E9E97-E052-4E24-8FDB-FDEBA58A5D0A@picknowl.com.au> Message-ID: Ian, Sorry for the delayed response. I read this list at work, but have iMovie and FCE on my home computer. Last night I was able to import a purchased iTunes song into both iMovie and FCE. iDVD was willing to burn a DVD from my iMovie with a purchased song. Here's a Apple document on use of iTunes music Perhaps there is a perceived difference between iMovie aimed at the personal user and FCE aimed at a more professional audience? Ross Hunter Orange, VA >Thanks for your answer Ross. > >I note what you have written, but then why are there no problems >when using iMovie ? > >When I drill down through the folders in FCP I get a list of artists >from which I can import music, but what I want is a list of the >songs in iTunes (as they appear in the iTunes Library). > >Ian T. >On 16/10/2006, at 9:46 PM, Dominion Market Research wrote: > >>Ian, >> >>I believe the iTunes issue has to do with Copyright protection on >>the music. You need to take extra steps such as what you've done or >>burn the music to a CD and then import into FCP/E. >> >>Ross Hunter >>Orange, VA >> >>>I am using the latest version of FCP on a 2.66 duo-core MacPro. >>> >>>When I try to import music into FCP from iTunes the iTunes library >>>is greyed out and upon going to User>Music>iTunes>iTunes Music I >>>end up with a list of artists rather than "songs". I have been >>>getting around this by dragging a copy of the music I require from >>>the actual iTunes window to the Desktop and then importing the >>>resultant file into FCP. >>> >>>Can someone give me a clue how to access the iTunes library from FCP please? >>> >>> >>> >>>My other problem is that when I go to do "dissolve", or "Iris" >>>transitions in the timeline I end up with footage (artifacts?) >>>from a completely unrelated clip appearing within part of the >>>transition. I have tried closing down FCP and reopening it but the >>>same thing still happens. There is no sign of the unwanted >>>footage between the two clips prior to attempting to do a >>>transition. I never had this problem in iMovie. >>> >>>Any clues please? >>> >>>Ian Tucker >>>_______________________________________________ >>>MacDV mailing list >>>MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>>http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv >>> >>>Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: >>> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >>> >> >> >_______________________________________________ >MacDV mailing list >MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > >Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 -- Dominion Market Research-mailing services for Central Virginia 309 Madison Road PO Box 791 Orange VA 22960-0464 USA 1-540-672-2327 1-800-328-2588 fax: 1-540-672-0296 http://www.dmrmail.com _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ From gwbrown1 at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 08:08:15 2006 From: gwbrown1 at gmail.com (Greg Brown) Date: Wed Oct 18 08:08:32 2006 Subject: [MacDV] best HD videocam for the Mac? Message-ID: <4898d2dc0610180808n9d44e3coeff62126a669e101@mail.gmail.com> I've heard the smaller HD videocams with internal drives are not the best to use with the Mac (something about encoding to mpeg on the internal drive causes degradation of quality when importing to iMovieHD/Final Cut). That said I like the small form HD vidoecams (not to mention most of the large ones are out of my price range). So my question is what is a good, small HD videocam for use with the Mac? Greg -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061018/36ca7ce3/attachment.html From videovideo at mac.com Wed Oct 18 11:10:09 2006 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Wed Oct 18 11:10:31 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: best HD videocam for the Mac? In-Reply-To: <4898d2dc0610180808n9d44e3coeff62126a669e101@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: I like the Sony HC CMOS camcorders. They are HDV, not HD I have the HC-3. It?s about $1,000 regards, sb On 10/18/06 8:08 AM, "Greg Brown" wrote: > I've heard the smaller HD videocams with internal drives are not the best to > use with the Mac (something about encoding to mpeg on the internal drive > causes degradation of quality when importing to iMovieHD/Final Cut). > > That said I like the small form HD vidoecams (not to mention most of the large > ones are out of my price range). So my question is what is a good, small HD > videocam for use with the Mac? > > Greg > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061018/21a73549/attachment-0001.html From dgrant at iastate.edu Wed Oct 18 11:14:23 2006 From: dgrant at iastate.edu (David Grant) Date: Wed Oct 18 11:14:32 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: best HD videocam for the Mac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > I like the Sony HC CMOS camcorders. They are HDV, not HD Pardon my ignorance but the what is the difference? DG From videovideo at mac.com Wed Oct 18 11:31:00 2006 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Wed Oct 18 11:31:30 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: best HD videocam for the Mac? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: HD is, technically, an uncompressed format. HDV is compressed to 3.6mb/sec Recording in HD means that your hard drives have to spin faster to keep up with the data stream. Usually, you need a RAID array to record to disk, and play back. Also, you will not see as many realtime effects in FCP. IMovie does not support any HD codecs, only HDV. HDV records at the same data rate as regular DV, which means you can use your internal hard drives or a single external drive. HD cameras are a lot more expensive. The least expensive is the Panasonic HVX200 which costs about $6,000, plus the P2 cards (instead of video tape) regards, sb On 10/18/06 11:14 AM, "David Grant" wrote: >> I like the Sony HC CMOS camcorders. They are HDV, not HD > > Pardon my ignorance but the what is the difference? > > DG From gwbrown1 at gmail.com Wed Oct 18 13:07:56 2006 From: gwbrown1 at gmail.com (Greg Brown) Date: Wed Oct 18 13:08:05 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: best HD videocam for the Mac? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4898d2dc0610181307y2e0fad28ld4d219c15f9b0a10@mail.gmail.com> > > HD cameras are a lot more expensive. The least expensive is the Panasonic > HVX200 which costs about $6,000, plus the P2 cards (instead of video tape) *GASP* Ok, HDV it is. Will my viewers notice any quality difference when viewing the high def video? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061018/037e13bc/attachment.html From videovideo at mac.com Wed Oct 18 13:33:24 2006 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Wed Oct 18 13:33:42 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: best HD videocam for the Mac? In-Reply-To: <4898d2dc0610181307y2e0fad28ld4d219c15f9b0a10@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: The big difference in quality is the lens. That said, the little Sony HC-3 takes a pretty good picture, much improved from the sub-$1,000 DV cameras. I don?t know who your viewers are, or what they will be comparing your video to, but if you mean notice a difference between standard DV and HDV, yes, they should notice an improvement. Make sure you use an external mic for all audio. Audio is 50% of the perceived quality of an image. regards, sb On 10/18/06 1:07 PM, "Greg Brown" wrote: > >> >> HD cameras are a lot more expensive. The least expensive is the Panasonic >> HVX200 which costs about $6,000, plus the P2 cards (instead of video tape) > > *GASP* > > Ok, HDV it is. Will my viewers notice any quality difference when viewing the > high def video? > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061018/e8efd220/attachment.html From merelyn_davi at internode.on.net Wed Oct 18 15:20:30 2006 From: merelyn_davi at internode.on.net (merelyn davi) Date: Wed Oct 18 15:20:44 2006 Subject: [MacDV] when a transition is finished it blinks Message-ID: <60A47CA8-1A35-4367-A1CC-89D3318954F5@internode.on.net> Hi, I've been making slide shows using iMovie. I've done 3 recently one after the other but the last one I started to have problems with the transitions blinking when they have finished. It is very off putting watching this. To start with it was only dissolve, so I used others, then I could only use scale down and wash in and wash out. Now that I have finished this last dvd and played it back I notice even those blink. Has anyone got any ideas what could be causing it please. I'm using iMovie HD 6.0.3 Mac OSX 10.4.8 19.07 GB free space 768 MB ram Thank you for any suggestions. Merelyn Davi From carlian at picknowl.com.au Thu Oct 19 16:28:26 2006 From: carlian at picknowl.com.au (carlian) Date: Thu Oct 19 16:29:50 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Exporting completed FCP project to DVD Studio Pro. Message-ID: <040F8009-221F-4A5D-A601-DDFFF9A41668@picknowl.com.au> I am finding the format options available for exporting a completed FCP project to DVD Studio Pro confusing. I would like to export a FCP file in the best quality I can and the other day after getting into trouble with"90 minute Best Quality Pal" using Compressor, I made a second attempt using "H.264 " in Compressor . This encoded for 6 hours and still had 10 hours to run when I terminated it. The film is 42 minutes long and I am using a MacPro 2.66 with 3GB RAM. I have referred to various Manuals, but cannot find a recommendation as to the best format for my purposes. I have actually burnt a DVD of the project using DVD Studio Pro, but I am not happy with the degradation of the video picture from what is shown in FCP. Your advice(s) would be appreciated. Thanks to those that responded to my earlier queries this week. Ian Tucker, Adelaide From jimash at optonline.net Thu Oct 19 16:44:23 2006 From: jimash at optonline.net (James Asherman) Date: Thu Oct 19 16:44:32 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Exporting completed FCP project to DVD Studio Pro. In-Reply-To: <040F8009-221F-4A5D-A601-DDFFF9A41668@picknowl.com.au> References: <040F8009-221F-4A5D-A601-DDFFF9A41668@picknowl.com.au> Message-ID: On Oct 19, 2006, at 7:28 PM, carlian wrote: > Your advice(s) would be appreciated. > > Thanks to those that responded to my earlier queries this week. > > Ian Tucker, > Adelaide For export to DVD Studio Pro, you want to use Mpeg2, otherwise you are dooming your footage to double encoding. You have too consider your run time, menu requirements and size of a given (single/double layer) DVD and take a little time adjusting the data rate accordingly. You can use compressor to do this or "export using quicktime conversion" choose mpeg2 and use all the options available right there from the export panel. Jim -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061019/3bf5e88e/attachment.html From tfincham at bigpond.net.au Fri Oct 20 17:00:21 2006 From: tfincham at bigpond.net.au (Tony Fincham) Date: Fri Oct 20 17:00:41 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Exporting completed FCP project to DVD Studio Pro. In-Reply-To: <040F8009-221F-4A5D-A601-DDFFF9A41668@picknowl.com.au> References: <040F8009-221F-4A5D-A601-DDFFF9A41668@picknowl.com.au> Message-ID: <37C20BEA-46AE-4CE0-BF33-98D52D7B5145@bigpond.net.au> Hi Ian, I am a self taught amateur user of Final Cut Pro and DVD Studio Pro for the last three years and have made many DVD's with no degradation of video picture in DVDSP from what I see in FCP. I have explored using the Compressor application, and I know it is recommended by the professionals, but the best and simplest way I have found to good quality DVD video from FCP to DVDSP is to use File>Export>QuickTime Movie from FCP. The steps I follow are as follows: 1. In FCP I make sure I have fully rendered the Video and Audio in the movie before exporting it ready for importing it into DVDSP. 2. Make sure I have inserted any Chapter Markers I want in the FCP Timeline before exporting it. 3. In FCP chose File>Export>QuickTime Movie. The Save dialog box appears. 4. Leave Setting at "Current Settings" (This maintains the video quality in the DVD). 5. Set Include to Audio and Video 6. Set Markers to Chapter Markers if you have them (I always include some for fast forwarding on the DVD). 7. I also select Make Movie Self Contained. Hope that helps Tony (from Melbourne, Australia) On 20/10/2006, at 9:28 AM, carlian wrote: > I am finding the format options available for exporting a completed > FCP project to DVD Studio Pro confusing. > > I would like to export a FCP file in the best quality I can and the > other day after getting into trouble with"90 minute Best Quality > Pal" using Compressor, I made a second attempt using "H.264 " in > Compressor . This encoded for 6 hours and still had 10 hours to > run when I terminated it. The film is 42 minutes long and I am > using a MacPro 2.66 with 3GB RAM. > > I have referred to various Manuals, but cannot find a > recommendation as to the best format for my purposes. > > I have actually burnt a DVD of the project using DVD Studio Pro, > but I am not happy with the degradation of the video picture from > what is shown in FCP. > > Your advice(s) would be appreciated. > > Thanks to those that responded to my earlier queries this week. > > Ian Tucker, > Adelaide > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From carlian at picknowl.com.au Sat Oct 21 18:54:34 2006 From: carlian at picknowl.com.au (carlian) Date: Sat Oct 21 18:56:01 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Exporting completed FCP project to DVD Studio Pro. In-Reply-To: <37C20BEA-46AE-4CE0-BF33-98D52D7B5145@bigpond.net.au> References: <040F8009-221F-4A5D-A601-DDFFF9A41668@picknowl.com.au> <37C20BEA-46AE-4CE0-BF33-98D52D7B5145@bigpond.net.au> Message-ID: Hi Tony, Thanks for that. Most helpful. Also thanks to Jim Asherman for his advice. Regards, Ian Tucker On 21/10/2006, at 9:30 AM, Tony Fincham wrote: > Hi Ian, I am a self taught amateur user of Final Cut Pro and DVD > Studio Pro for the last three years and have made many DVD's with > no degradation of video picture in DVDSP from what I see in FCP. > > I have explored using the Compressor application, and I know it is > recommended by the professionals, but the best and simplest way I > have found to good quality DVD video from FCP to DVDSP is to use > File>Export>QuickTime Movie from FCP. > > The steps I follow are as follows: > > 1. In FCP I make sure I have fully rendered the Video and Audio in > the movie before exporting it ready for importing it into DVDSP. > 2. Make sure I have inserted any Chapter Markers I want in the FCP > Timeline before exporting it. > 3. In FCP chose File>Export>QuickTime Movie. The Save dialog box > appears. > 4. Leave Setting at "Current Settings" (This maintains the video > quality in the DVD). > 5. Set Include to Audio and Video > 6. Set Markers to Chapter Markers if you have them (I always > include some for fast forwarding on the DVD). > 7. I also select Make Movie Self Contained. > > Hope that helps > > Tony (from Melbourne, Australia) > > On 20/10/2006, at 9:28 AM, carlian wrote: > >> I am finding the format options available for exporting a >> completed FCP project to DVD Studio Pro confusing. >> >> I would like to export a FCP file in the best quality I can and >> the other day after getting into trouble with"90 minute Best >> Quality Pal" using Compressor, I made a second attempt using "H. >> 264 " in Compressor . This encoded for 6 hours and still had >> 10 hours to run when I terminated it. The film is 42 minutes long >> and I am using a MacPro 2.66 with 3GB RAM. >> >> I have referred to various Manuals, but cannot find a >> recommendation as to the best format for my purposes. >> >> I have actually burnt a DVD of the project using DVD Studio Pro, >> but I am not happy with the degradation of the video picture from >> what is shown in FCP. >> >> Your advice(s) would be appreciated. >> >> Thanks to those that responded to my earlier queries this week. >> >> Ian Tucker, >> Adelaide >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacDV mailing list >> MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random >> stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > From malcolm_hamilton at cbc.ca Mon Oct 23 12:58:29 2006 From: malcolm_hamilton at cbc.ca (Malcolm Hamilton) Date: Mon Oct 23 12:58:36 2006 Subject: [MacDV] how many hours (QT) will fit on 500GB drive? Message-ID: <6872F30B-772F-4A64-B9D8-B9E632ED91C7@cbc.ca> Hi there, I'm wanting to copy 20 seasons-worth of the tv show I work for, onto an external fw hard drive. I'm playing the original half-hour Sony SP and SX show tapes, through a Media Converter (firewire out) into my G4, via QuickTime, and onto a 500GB external drive. Can anyone tell me how many hours this drive will hold, with whatever compression QT uses? Thanks, mhcbc From videovideo at mac.com Mon Oct 23 13:04:57 2006 From: videovideo at mac.com (sb) Date: Mon Oct 23 13:05:22 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Re: how many hours (QT) will fit on 500GB drive? In-Reply-To: <6872F30B-772F-4A64-B9D8-B9E632ED91C7@cbc.ca> Message-ID: A media converter uses DV codec. DV uses 3.6mg/sec, which is about 13GB/hour Since you are starting with pretty high quality, you could take the DV video files and then compress to a different codec, like iPod video, H.264 which will hold much much more. HandBrake is good for that process. regards, sb On 10/23/06 12:58 PM, "Malcolm Hamilton" wrote: > Hi there, > I'm wanting to copy 20 seasons-worth of the tv show I work for, onto > an external fw hard drive. > I'm playing the original half-hour Sony SP and SX show tapes, through > a Media Converter (firewire out) into my G4, via QuickTime, and onto > a 500GB external drive. > Can anyone tell me how many hours this drive will hold, with whatever > compression QT uses? > > Thanks, > mhcbc > From carlian at picknowl.com.au Tue Oct 31 03:22:41 2006 From: carlian at picknowl.com.au (carlian) Date: Tue Oct 31 03:23:59 2006 Subject: [MacDV] FCP and DVD Studio Pro Message-ID: I am using a dual core 2.66 Mac Pro with 3GB of RAM and the latest versions of OSX and FC Studio. I have been using FCP for a couple of years now, but am new to DVD SP. My problem at the moment is I cannot burn a DVD as DVD SP halts as soon as it gets to formatting the "Track" and the Log reports I am using a too high VBR. Using recommendations from the Mac DV list I have been exporting the FCP project as a FCP Movie using "Current Settings", including "Audio and Video" & "Chapter Markers" and Unchecking " Make Movie Self Contained". I have ensured all rendering had been completed prior to exporting. With DVD SP, and again using recommendations from the List, I have been , in an effort to improve the quality of final encoding, selecting 2 Pass VBR with a high bit rate of 7/8 mbps whilst setting "Best" for "Motion" . I have tried putting the DVD SP preferences back to "Factory Default" and in fact reducing the VBR down to 2 mbps and the Application is still spitting the dummy as soon as it starts on encoding the actual movie track. This afternoon I took the FCP QT movie into iDVD (latest version), and it spat the disc out right at the end whilst the "Burn" wheel was still rotating. I have been trying to sort this out for the last 4 days and feel like I am starting to go up a wattle. Tonight I trashed both iDVD and DVD SP plists a, but no joy there. Any help from Listers would be much appreciated. Ian Tucker, Adelaide. From rgilmor at uwo.ca Tue Oct 31 07:51:35 2006 From: rgilmor at uwo.ca (Richard Gilmore) Date: Tue Oct 31 07:50:45 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Moving iMovie project from one machine to another Message-ID: Hi all, I had someone who created an iMovie project on one machine without a DVD burner and when we tried to move it to another machine with a DVD burner the project did not survive the transfer. None of the clips nor music was saved in the timeline. All the clips etc...were there but the project had to be recreated from scratch. The icon was different also it transferred as a folder but not the all in one package that was the original iMovie project on the original computer. Is there a way to transfer a project? Thanx -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061031/2546fa92/attachment.html From allan at dsol.co.uk Tue Oct 31 08:35:29 2006 From: allan at dsol.co.uk (Allan) Date: Tue Oct 31 08:35:40 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Moving iMovie project from one machine to another In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <3521E562-D750-4C05-9B6D-E80E4BE105BE@dsol.co.uk> Export the finished project as a DV quality file to the desktop and send that to the computer with a DVD burner. If the project is to be burnt in iDVD and iDVD i installed on the computer without the DVD burner, send it to iDVD and set up menus and sound as you wish, then export it as a disk image. Transfer that to the computer with the DVD burner and complete. Allan Johns On 31 Oct 2006, at 15:51, Richard Gilmore wrote: > Hi all, > > I had someone who created an iMovie project on one machine without > a DVD > burner and when we tried to move it to another machine with a DVD > burner the > project did not survive the transfer. > Is there a way to transfer a project? > From dschaefer at aea267.k12.ia.us Tue Oct 31 08:37:43 2006 From: dschaefer at aea267.k12.ia.us (David R. Schaefer) Date: Tue Oct 31 08:37:56 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Moving iMovie project from one machine to another In-Reply-To: Message-ID: On 10/31/06 9:51 AM, "Richard Gilmore" wrote: > Hi all, > > I had someone who created an iMovie project on one machine without a DVD > burner and when we tried to move it to another machine with a DVD burner the > project did not survive the transfer. None of the clips nor music was saved in > the timeline. All the clips etc...were there but the project had to be > recreated from scratch. The icon was different also it transferred as a folder > but not the all in one package that was the original iMovie project on the > original computer. Is there a way to transfer a project? > > Thanx > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 It sounds like different versions of iMovie... The Icons changed. Are they the same version? ===================================== David R. Schaefer? ? ? ? ? ? ? Technology Services Consultant AEA 267 9184 265th St STE B Clear Lake, IA 50428 Phone: ? ? 641-357-6125 x2280? ? (In Iowa) 800-392-6640 Fax: 641-357-3201? ? ? ? email: dschaefer@aea267.k12.ia.us ===================================== -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061031/d59d47e2/attachment.html From rgilmor at uwo.ca Tue Oct 31 08:49:02 2006 From: rgilmor at uwo.ca (Richard Gilmore) Date: Tue Oct 31 08:48:05 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Moving iMovie project from one machine to another In-Reply-To: <3521E562-D750-4C05-9B6D-E80E4BE105BE@dsol.co.uk> Message-ID: The problem with this is that it can't be edited on the new machine and it's further complicated in that the person has no room left on her hard drive to export a DV. I was thinking I could make a disc image of the project and transfer it that way except for the lack of hard drive space. On 31/10/06 11:35 AM, "Allan" wrote: > Export the finished project as a DV quality file to the desktop and > send that to the computer with a DVD burner. > > If the project is to be burnt in iDVD and iDVD i installed on the > computer without the DVD burner, send it to iDVD and set up menus and > sound as you wish, then export it as a disk image. Transfer that to > the computer with the DVD burner and complete. > > Allan Johns > > > On 31 Oct 2006, at 15:51, Richard Gilmore wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I had someone who created an iMovie project on one machine without >> a DVD >> burner and when we tried to move it to another machine with a DVD >> burner the >> project did not survive the transfer. > >> Is there a way to transfer a project? >> > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From rgilmor at uwo.ca Tue Oct 31 08:54:09 2006 From: rgilmor at uwo.ca (Richard Gilmore) Date: Tue Oct 31 08:53:33 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Moving iMovie project from one machine to another In-Reply-To: Message-ID: What I mean by icon change is normally iMovie projects are an all in one package with an iMovie icon even though all the clips are inside the package but it?s not open-able in the normal way like a folder. When it got transferred to the new computer the package had been changed to a regular folder. It was not a package nor ?blessed? as a bone fide iMovie project which is why I think it didn?t work. What I need is a way to maintain the package ?blessed? iMovie properties of the original so iMovie knows what it is an how to treat it. This way the movie can be further edited. Any ideas? Am I totally wrong about this? Thanx Richard >> >> MacDV mailing list >> MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv >> >> Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: >> http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > It sounds like different versions of iMovie... The Icons changed. Are they > the same version? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061031/9dbcddc0/attachment-0001.html From allan at dsol.co.uk Tue Oct 31 09:25:19 2006 From: allan at dsol.co.uk (Allan) Date: Tue Oct 31 09:25:25 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Moving iMovie project from one machine to another In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Are both versions of iMovie the same and are both operating systems the same. Allan Johns On 31 Oct 2006, at 16:54, Richard Gilmore wrote: > What I mean by icon change is normally iMovie projects are an all > in one > package with an iMovie icon even though all the clips are inside > the package > but it?s not open-able in the normal way like a folder. When it got > transferred to the new computer the package had been changed to a > regular > folder. It was not a package nor ?blessed? as a bone fide iMovie > project > which is why I think it didn?t work. From dfz at mac.com Tue Oct 31 09:31:32 2006 From: dfz at mac.com (Dennis Fazio) Date: Tue Oct 31 09:32:24 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Moving iMovie project from one machine to another In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <29453BE9-103C-43BC-B4A5-4DE522A2B408@mac.com> On Oct 31, 2006, at 10:54 AM, Richard Gilmore wrote: > What I need is a way to maintain the package ?blessed? iMovie > properties of the original so iMovie knows what it is an how to > treat it. This way the movie can be further edited. It's a long shot but perhaps wrapping it in a package might help. Create an archive, move and decompress on the new machine. -- Dennis Fazio dfz@mac.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macdv/attachments/20061031/90013979/attachment.html From allan at dsol.co.uk Tue Oct 31 09:57:24 2006 From: allan at dsol.co.uk (Allan) Date: Tue Oct 31 09:57:32 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Moving iMovie project from one machine to another In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <99F24528-2CAA-47F5-BFC5-C3B87A26659E@dsol.co.uk> Another possibility, if the second machine is near the first machine, is to connect both in Target mode and burn the project that way. Allan Johns. On 31 Oct 2006, at 16:54, Richard Gilmore wrote: > What I mean by icon change is normally iMovie projects are an all > in one > package with an iMovie icon even though all the clips are inside > the package > but it?s not open-able in the normal way like a folder. When it got > transferred to the new computer the package had been changed to a > regular > folder. It was not a package nor ?blessed? as a bone fide iMovie > project > which is why I think it didn?t work. What I need is a way to > maintain the > package ?blessed? iMovie properties of the original so iMovie knows > what it > is an how to treat it. This way the movie can be further edited. > > Any ideas? Am I totally wrong about this? > > Thanx > > Richard From rgilmor at uwo.ca Tue Oct 31 13:12:14 2006 From: rgilmor at uwo.ca (Richard Gilmore) Date: Tue Oct 31 13:11:18 2006 Subject: [MacDV] Moving iMovie project from one machine to another In-Reply-To: <99F24528-2CAA-47F5-BFC5-C3B87A26659E@dsol.co.uk> Message-ID: I transferred the files in target mode I never thought to try and open the project from iMovie that way. Good idea to try. Both machines were Tiger PPC I'm not sure about which versions of iMovie they were but I think they were close. I don't think that is the problem though it's something to do with system not copying the permissions or package status. On 31/10/06 12:57 PM, "Allan" wrote: > Another possibility, if the second machine is near the first machine, > is to connect both in Target mode and burn the project that way. > > Allan Johns. > > > On 31 Oct 2006, at 16:54, Richard Gilmore wrote: > >> What I mean by icon change is normally iMovie projects are an all >> in one >> package with an iMovie icon even though all the clips are inside >> the package >> but it?s not open-able in the normal way like a folder. When it got >> transferred to the new computer the package had been changed to a >> regular >> folder. It was not a package nor ?blessed? as a bone fide iMovie >> project >> which is why I think it didn?t work. What I need is a way to >> maintain the >> package ?blessed? iMovie properties of the original so iMovie knows >> what it >> is an how to treat it. This way the movie can be further edited. >> >> Any ideas? Am I totally wrong about this? >> >> Thanx >> >> Richard > > _______________________________________________ > MacDV mailing list > MacDV@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macdv > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984