From rbarline at mac.com Sun Oct 28 14:09:16 2007 From: rbarline at mac.com (Ric Barline) Date: Sun Oct 28 14:09:30 2007 Subject: [MV] ViaVoice and Leopard? Message-ID: <09D056AA-C804-4E4A-B413-2F8D0CF9C5FC@mac.com> Does anyone know whether or not ViaVoice, which is currently working well for me in Tiger, is expected to work in Leopard? Thanks! Ric Barline EdTech Consultants rbarline@mac.com 408-262-5418 (office) 408-605-8220 (cell) From vlmaples at bellsouth.net Sun Oct 28 14:49:16 2007 From: vlmaples at bellsouth.net (Valerie Maples) Date: Sun Oct 28 14:49:55 2007 Subject: [MV] ViaVoice and Leopard? In-Reply-To: <09D056AA-C804-4E4A-B413-2F8D0CF9C5FC@mac.com> References: <09D056AA-C804-4E4A-B413-2F8D0CF9C5FC@mac.com> Message-ID: <424613E9-B547-46A9-A603-E31FD043663F@bellsouth.net> Highly unlikely since many people got no functionality from later releases of 10.4 (I think specifically past 10.4.7). I know iListen had to make significant changes to accommodate changes in Core Audio. If you depend on it, don't risk it! Valerie On Oct 28, 2007, at 4:09 PM, Ric Barline wrote: > Does anyone know whether or not ViaVoice, which is currently working > well for me in Tiger, is expected to work in Leopard? Thanks! From m.young at mac.com Sun Oct 28 14:59:44 2007 From: m.young at mac.com (M Young) Date: Sun Oct 28 15:00:06 2007 Subject: [MV] ViaVoice and Leopard? In-Reply-To: <20071028210929.C25D81AEDFCC@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20071028210929.C25D81AEDFCC@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: Hello Ric, Is ViaVoice for OS X still being actively developed? I thought it was not, although it is apparently still for sale. Personally, I would try to find another VR tool (such as iListen, if it meets your needs, and you don't want to do the Dragon Window dance) or not bother with Leopard until the OS has been out for a while and someone else plays the guinea pig to let you know that ViaVoice will work under Leopard. Best of luck, Michael On Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:09:16 -0700 Ric Barline wrote: > > > Does anyone know whether or not ViaVoice, which is currently working > well for me in Tiger, is expected to work in Leopard? Thanks! > > > Ric Barline > EdTech Consultants > rbarline@mac.com > 408-262-5418 (office) > 408-605-8220 (cell) From dianamo at carolina.rr.com Sun Oct 28 15:03:46 2007 From: dianamo at carolina.rr.com (diane bechtler) Date: Sun Oct 28 15:03:55 2007 Subject: [MV] (no subject) Message-ID: <476B4CE5-2F51-4E38-B608-1D82B17F093D@carolina.rr.com> what is this about? All my life has been an interest in stories, forever and ever and ever. ?E. Annie Proulx, -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macvoice/attachments/20071028/11f2da12/attachment.html From m.young at mac.com Sun Oct 28 15:13:37 2007 From: m.young at mac.com (M Young) Date: Sun Oct 28 15:13:55 2007 Subject: [MV] Re: macspeech vs dns In-Reply-To: <20071028210929.C25D81AEDFCC@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> References: <20071028210929.C25D81AEDFCC@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> Message-ID: <3F21295C-388D-449D-8E7E-7833967907DA@mac.com> On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:17:01 -0700 Joseph Senecal wrote: > > On Sep 19, 2007, at 12:45 PM, M Young wrote: > >> I am not paralyzed. I am one of those folks who wants/needs an >> iListen embedded text editor. Nothing about using voice recognition >> software is more demoralizing than wasting my time doing voice >> recognition work that becomes screwed up because I touched the >> mouse or keyboard. Chuck, I will probably not use iListen again >> until I can touch the mouse and keyboard during voice recognition. :( > > I do this all the time. The trick is to do any corrections BEFORE you > move the cursor or type text manually. > > Joe Senecal Sorry for the slow response, but I get the digest version of this list so your response only showed up today for me. Joe, what you wrote is true and accurate. I wrote "touched the mouse or keyboard" for a practical reason. My biggest frustration with iListen occurred when I accidently touched the mouse and keyboard. While I do want/need to be able to make corrections before moving the cursor for efficiencies sake, the accidental touches are a bigger problem. Since (knock on wood) I am not paralyzed, the accidental touches will continue to be a problem with the current version of iListen. I am glad that iListen works for you, but fortunately I have found another option that works for me. :) I am not looking to get into a long dragged discussion on the merits of iListen v. Dragon NaturallySpeaking. I look forward to the day when a Mac native product will meet my needs. Enough said. Later, Michael From chuck.rogers at macspeech.com Sun Oct 28 15:16:13 2007 From: chuck.rogers at macspeech.com (Chuck Rogers) Date: Sun Oct 28 15:16:22 2007 Subject: [MV] iListen and Leopard In-Reply-To: <476B4CE5-2F51-4E38-B608-1D82B17F093D@carolina.rr.com> References: <476B4CE5-2F51-4E38-B608-1D82B17F093D@carolina.rr.com> Message-ID: All: Just thought I would chime in here, as sooner or later someone is bound to ask: The current version of iListen (1.7.1) is not compatible with Leopard. We are beta testing a new version, and plan to release it sometime in November. This will be a free update for anyone who already owns 1.7.0 or later. We have advised all our customers to wait until we have a Leopard compatible version before they upgrade their OS. To answer another question posed to the list, IBM ceased development of all speech recognition software for both PC an Macs in April of 2003. The version of ViaVoice currently being sold by Nuance is only certified to work with Mac OS X 10.2.8 and earlier, although many people have been able to get it to work on 10.3 or 10.4. It will not work at all on Intel-based Macs. For those interested, here is what the former project co-ordinator for IBM's ViaVoice for Mac project has to say about iListen: "iListen is by the far the best speech product ever created for Macintosh. It is what we were striving for when my team ported ViaVoice to Macintosh and what ViaVoice should have been." - James Lee, President, Tropical Software and former coordinator for ViaVoice for Macintosh Development Team Best Regards, Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist MacSpeech, Inc. From thechuck at mac.com Sun Oct 28 15:23:49 2007 From: thechuck at mac.com (Chuck Rogers) Date: Sun Oct 28 15:24:04 2007 Subject: [MV] Re: macspeech vs dns In-Reply-To: <3F21295C-388D-449D-8E7E-7833967907DA@mac.com> References: <20071028210929.C25D81AEDFCC@listserver.themacintoshguy.com> <3F21295C-388D-449D-8E7E-7833967907DA@mac.com> Message-ID: <5158B3E5-7A4D-4B04-8C71-512E1B5B17ED@mac.com> Michael (and everyone else): The "don't touch" rule in iListen is because Mac OS X does not allow the kind of inter-application communication that would be needed to have true interactivity within any application environment. The Correction window serves as an embedded editor, where you have the benefit of being able to use the keyboard and mouse however you would like, as well as maintaining the text in the original document. BTW, if you accidentally touch the keyboard or mouse, simply put the cursor back where it was (usually at the end of the document, where you stopped dictating) and iListen will be fine. Strictly speaking, the problem isn't that you can't move the mouse or touch the keyboard, it is that if you do, you can't add or delete any characters (since that would throw iListen out of sync with your document) and when you are finished, you must put the cursor where iListen left it when you stopped dictating. As you can see, it's just simpler to say "don't touch." Best Regards, Chuck Rogers ==================================================== There are two types of people in the world: those who divide the world into two types of people and those who don't. On Oct 28, 2007, at 5:13 PM, M Young wrote: > > On Wed, 19 Sep 2007 14:17:01 -0700 Joseph Senecal wrote: > >> >> On Sep 19, 2007, at 12:45 PM, M Young wrote: >> >>> I am not paralyzed. I am one of those folks who wants/needs an >>> iListen embedded text editor. Nothing about using voice recognition >>> software is more demoralizing than wasting my time doing voice >>> recognition work that becomes screwed up because I touched the >>> mouse or keyboard. Chuck, I will probably not use iListen again >>> until I can touch the mouse and keyboard during voice >>> recognition. :( >> >> I do this all the time. The trick is to do any corrections BEFORE you >> move the cursor or type text manually. >> >> Joe Senecal > > Sorry for the slow response, but I get the digest version of this > list so your response only showed up today for me. > > Joe, what you wrote is true and accurate. I wrote "touched the mouse > or keyboard" for a practical reason. My biggest frustration with > iListen occurred when I accidently touched the mouse and keyboard. > While I do want/need to be able to make corrections before moving > the cursor for efficiencies sake, the accidental touches are a > bigger problem. Since (knock on wood) I am not paralyzed, the > accidental touches will continue to be a problem with the current > version of iListen. > > I am glad that iListen works for you, but fortunately I have found > another option that works for me. :) > > I am not looking to get into a long dragged discussion on the merits > of iListen v. Dragon NaturallySpeaking. I look forward to the day > when a Mac native product will meet my needs. Enough said. > > Later, > > Michael > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice