From tscheresky at micron.com Fri Jan 18 07:34:24 2008 From: tscheresky at micron.com (tscheresky@micron.com) Date: Fri Jan 18 07:34:32 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech online forum... In-Reply-To: <329B7E7D-1C84-4022-A637-298C6BEB520C@macspeech.com> References: <7D58DB35-08F3-4EB9-AE4E-15BC6E4A9187@macspeech.com> <329B7E7D-1C84-4022-A637-298C6BEB520C@macspeech.com> Message-ID: Does anyone know if MacSpeech has an online forum where you can go to discuss its products, like Nuance has for DNS: http://support.lhsl.com/databases/dragon/webdisc.nsf/($All)?OpenView&Cou nt=100 Thanks... From chuck.rogers at macspeech.com Fri Jan 18 07:50:50 2008 From: chuck.rogers at macspeech.com (Chuck Rogers) Date: Fri Jan 18 07:51:00 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech online forum... In-Reply-To: References: <7D58DB35-08F3-4EB9-AE4E-15BC6E4A9187@macspeech.com> <329B7E7D-1C84-4022-A637-298C6BEB520C@macspeech.com> Message-ID: <3C6C557C-CE84-4744-840A-26EF930571BD@macspeech.com> Todd (and everyone else): We do not have an online forum for MacSpeech Dictate yet, as it has not been released. We do plan on having one either at or soon after its release in mid February. Best Regards, Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist MacSpeech, Inc. On Jan 18, 2008, at 7:34 AM, wrote: > Does anyone know if MacSpeech has an online forum where you can go to > discuss its products, like Nuance has for DNS: > > http://support.lhsl.com/databases/dragon/webdisc.nsf/($All)?OpenView&Cou > nt=100 > > Thanks... > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice From chuck.rogers at macspeech.com Fri Jan 18 08:06:16 2008 From: chuck.rogers at macspeech.com (Chuck Rogers) Date: Fri Jan 18 08:06:29 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate Message-ID: All: Sorry I have not posted to the list sooner - it has been a very busy Macworld, as you can imagine! By now, most of you probably know, we announced a new product at Macworld Expo this week - MacSpeech Dictate. I wanted to give you some of the details about this exciting new product. - MacSpeech Dictate is NOT "Dragon on the Mac" anymore than iListen was "Philips on the Mac." Yes, we are using the incredible Dragon NaturallySpeaking speech engine, but that is where the resemblance stops. Basically, we feed the audio into the engine, and text comes out. What is done with the text is 100% Macintosh code written by us. Not one line of code from any of Dragon's software programs or from iListen is used in this new program. - MacSpeech Dictate is Intel only, but it will work on any Intel-based Macintosh running Mac OS X 10.4.11 or higher with at least 1GB of RAM. - MacSpeech Dictate will ship with 6 versions of English: US, UK, Australian, Indian, Southeast Asian, and Teen. - Later this year we will be releasing versions for French, German, Italian, and Spanish. - Later this year we will be releasing Medical and Legal vocabularies. - Training literally takes only 5 minutes for most people. Those with unique vocal characteristics or accents that do not fall into one of the regional English language models may need to read another story or two to achieve maximum accuracy, but even for those folks, accuracy will be better than a fully trained profile in iListen after only 5 minutes of training. - MacSpeech Dictate 1.0 will ship in mid-February. It's retail price will be $199. Anyone who already has iListen can crossgrade to the new program for $99. Through next Friday, we are running a Macworld Expo crossgrade special for existing iListen owners: $79 plus shipping. This is a special offer that expires next Friday and is a pre-order. There will not be a download option because the program installs over 1GB of data on your hard drive. It will be possible to download upgrades, however. - Due to the switch to a new engine, we are no longer shipping copies of iListen. iListen is available in retail stores and online through many outlets, including the Apple store. iListen remains a viable option for anyone running non-Intel-based Macs. We are thrilled about this new product. I have been doing demos on the show floor every day, and even though my voice is getting hoarse, I am still getting near 100% accuracy even when the show floor is noisy! I'd like to stress that MacSpeech Dictate is a 100% Mac-only program, written from the ground up for Mac OS X. I hope I have answered most of your questions. If not, please feel free to either email me personally at chuck.rogers@macspeech.com or post to the list. Keep in mind I am at Macworld Expo and may not be able to reply right away. Best Regards, Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist MacSpeech, Inc. From tscheresky at micron.com Fri Jan 18 08:07:24 2008 From: tscheresky at micron.com (tscheresky@micron.com) Date: Fri Jan 18 08:07:32 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech online forum... In-Reply-To: <3C6C557C-CE84-4744-840A-26EF930571BD@macspeech.com> References: <7D58DB35-08F3-4EB9-AE4E-15BC6E4A9187@macspeech.com><329B7E7D-1C84-4022-A637-298C6BEB520C@macspeech.com> <3C6C557C-CE84-4744-840A-26EF930571BD@macspeech.com> Message-ID: Chucked an online searchable forum will be great. Have already ordered MacSpeech Dictate and I'm looking forward to it. Have questions though... would be nice to post them to a forum. :-) Thanks... Todd Speech recognition in use. It makes mistakes. I correct the ones I notice... -----Original Message----- From: macvoice-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com [mailto:macvoice-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com] On Behalf Of Chuck Rogers Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 8:51 AM To: A place to discuss speech recognition on Macintosh. Subject: Re: [MV] MacSpeech online forum... Todd (and everyone else): We do not have an online forum for MacSpeech Dictate yet, as it has not been released. We do plan on having one either at or soon after its release in mid February. Best Regards, Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist MacSpeech, Inc. On Jan 18, 2008, at 7:34 AM, wrote: > Does anyone know if MacSpeech has an online forum where you can go to > discuss its products, like Nuance has for DNS: > > http://support.lhsl.com/databases/dragon/webdisc.nsf/($All)?OpenView&C > ou > nt=100 > > Thanks... > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice _______________________________________________ MacVoice mailing list MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice From brain2much at mac.com Fri Jan 18 08:12:26 2008 From: brain2much at mac.com (Christopher Gunty) Date: Fri Jan 18 08:13:18 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Chuck, Is there any special pricing for MacSpeech Founders' Club members? Thanks, Chris Gunty On 1/18/08 11:06 AM, "Chuck Rogers" wrote: > - MacSpeech Dictate 1.0 will ship in mid-February. It's retail price > will be $199. Anyone who already has iListen can crossgrade to the new > program for $99. Through next Friday, we are running a Macworld Expo > crossgrade special for existing iListen owners: $79 plus shipping. > This is a special offer that expires next Friday and is a pre-order. > There will not be a download option because the program installs over > 1GB of data on your hard drive. It will be possible to download > upgrades, however. From chuck.rogers at macspeech.com Fri Jan 18 08:19:52 2008 From: chuck.rogers at macspeech.com (Chuck Rogers) Date: Fri Jan 18 08:20:08 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <98D37976-217E-400B-A099-DA68643FA78D@macspeech.com> Chris (and everyone else): Founders (MacSpeech early believers who purchased a T-shirt about 10 years ago) will receive a special offer before we ship in mid-February. Best Regards, Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist MacSpeech, Inc. On Jan 18, 2008, at 8:12 AM, Christopher Gunty wrote: > Chuck, > > Is there any special pricing for MacSpeech Founders' Club members? > > Thanks, > Chris Gunty > > > > > On 1/18/08 11:06 AM, "Chuck Rogers" > wrote: > >> - MacSpeech Dictate 1.0 will ship in mid-February. It's retail price >> will be $199. Anyone who already has iListen can crossgrade to the >> new >> program for $99. Through next Friday, we are running a Macworld Expo >> crossgrade special for existing iListen owners: $79 plus shipping. >> This is a special offer that expires next Friday and is a pre-order. >> There will not be a download option because the program installs over >> 1GB of data on your hard drive. It will be possible to download >> upgrades, however. > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice From kalirhe at umdnj.edu Fri Jan 18 09:32:45 2008 From: kalirhe at umdnj.edu (Henry Kalir) Date: Fri Jan 18 09:33:25 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: <98D37976-217E-400B-A099-DA68643FA78D@macspeech.com> References: <98D37976-217E-400B-A099-DA68643FA78D@macspeech.com> Message-ID: ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Rogers Date: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:20 am Subject: Re: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate To: "A place to discuss speech recognition on Macintosh." > Chris (and everyone else): > > Founders (MacSpeech early believers who purchased a T-shirt > about 10 > years ago) will receive a special offer before we ship in mid- > February. > > > Best Regards, > > Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist > MacSpeech, Inc. > > > > > On Jan 18, 2008, at 8:12 AM, Christopher Gunty wrote: > > > Chuck, > > > > Is there any special pricing for MacSpeech Founders' Club members? > > > > Thanks, > > Chris Gunty > > > > > > > > > > On 1/18/08 11:06 AM, "Chuck Rogers" > > > wrote: > > > >> - MacSpeech Dictate 1.0 will ship in mid-February. It's > retail price > >> will be $199. Anyone who already has iListen can crossgrade > to the > >> new > >> program for $99. Through next Friday, we are running a > Macworld Expo > >> crossgrade special for existing iListen owners: $79 plus shipping. > >> This is a special offer that expires next Friday and is a pre- > order.>> There will not be a download option because the program > installs over > >> 1GB of data on your hard drive. It will be possible to download > >> upgrades, however. > > > > > > > > _______________ Chuck, Will MacSpeech Dictate run on a Ti G4 1 GHz PowerBook with Leopard 10.5.1 installed> Best, Henry PS - I hope the founders club members will be able to purchase it at the same or lower price as the upgraders... From tscheresky at micron.com Fri Jan 18 09:47:38 2008 From: tscheresky at micron.com (tscheresky@micron.com) Date: Fri Jan 18 09:47:45 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: References: <98D37976-217E-400B-A099-DA68643FA78D@macspeech.com> Message-ID: >From Chuck's earlier post: > MacSpeech Dictate is Intel only, but it will > work on any Intel-based Macintosh running > Mac OS X 10.4.11 or higher with at least 1GB of RAM. MacSpeech Dictate is for Intel-based Macs only. So no it will not work with any PowerBooks or G3-5s. Todd -----Original Message----- From: macvoice-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com [mailto:macvoice-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com] On Behalf Of Henry Kalir Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 10:33 AM To: A place to discuss speech recognition on Macintosh. Subject: Re: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate ----- Original Message ----- From: Chuck Rogers Date: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:20 am Subject: Re: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate To: "A place to discuss speech recognition on Macintosh." > Chris (and everyone else): > > Founders (MacSpeech early believers who purchased a T-shirt about 10 > years ago) will receive a special offer before we ship in mid- > February. > > > Best Regards, > > Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist > MacSpeech, Inc. > > > > > On Jan 18, 2008, at 8:12 AM, Christopher Gunty wrote: > > > Chuck, > > > > Is there any special pricing for MacSpeech Founders' Club members? > > > > Thanks, > > Chris Gunty > > > > > > > > > > On 1/18/08 11:06 AM, "Chuck Rogers" > > > wrote: > > > >> - MacSpeech Dictate 1.0 will ship in mid-February. It's > retail price > >> will be $199. Anyone who already has iListen can crossgrade > to the > >> new > >> program for $99. Through next Friday, we are running a > Macworld Expo > >> crossgrade special for existing iListen owners: $79 plus shipping. > >> This is a special offer that expires next Friday and is a pre- > order.>> There will not be a download option because the program > installs over > >> 1GB of data on your hard drive. It will be possible to download > >> upgrades, however. > > > > > > > > _______________ Chuck, Will MacSpeech Dictate run on a Ti G4 1 GHz PowerBook with Leopard 10.5.1 installed> Best, Henry PS - I hope the founders club members will be able to purchase it at the same or lower price as the upgraders... _______________________________________________ MacVoice mailing list MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice From JSenecal at aol.com Fri Jan 18 09:55:49 2008 From: JSenecal at aol.com (Joseph Senecal) Date: Fri Jan 18 09:56:02 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: References: <98D37976-217E-400B-A099-DA68643FA78D@macspeech.com> Message-ID: <1CE0C34F-B24F-46F5-8855-E06C1C19FA91@aol.com> > > Chuck, > > Will MacSpeech Dictate run on a Ti G4 1 GHz PowerBook with Leopard > 10.5.1 installed> > > Best, > > Henry > > PS - I hope the founders club members will be able to purchase it > at the same or lower price as the upgraders... Henry, No MacSpeech Dictate won't run on a PowerBook. This isn't because MacSpeech doesn't want to support the PowerPC, it's because the Dragon Engine is specific to the x86 processor. So it's Apple's shift to Intel that's making it possible for us to get the Dragon engine on a Mac. Since all the Founders have iListen, we qualify to get it at the upgrade price anyway. My guess is that it's worth waiting for the founders offer than cross-grading now. Joseph Senecal, a fellow MacSpeech Founder From kaimanl at comcast.net Fri Jan 18 10:35:47 2008 From: kaimanl at comcast.net (Kai-Man Lee) Date: Fri Jan 18 10:35:56 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: Message-ID: Chuck, Where is the MacWorld Expo crossover special? I don't see it on the Macspeech website? Kai-Man > From: Chuck Rogers > Reply-To: "A place to discuss speech recognition on Macintosh." > > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:06:16 -0800 > To: "A place to discuss speech recognition on Macintosh." > > Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate > > All: > > Sorry I have not posted to the list sooner - it has been a very busy > Macworld, as you can imagine! > > By now, most of you probably know, we announced a new product at > Macworld Expo this week - MacSpeech Dictate. I wanted to give you some > of the details about this exciting new product. > > - MacSpeech Dictate is NOT "Dragon on the Mac" anymore than iListen > was "Philips on the Mac." Yes, we are using the incredible Dragon > NaturallySpeaking speech engine, but that is where the resemblance > stops. Basically, we feed the audio into the engine, and text comes > out. What is done with the text is 100% Macintosh code written by us. > Not one line of code from any of Dragon's software programs or from > iListen is used in this new program. > > - MacSpeech Dictate is Intel only, but it will work on any Intel-based > Macintosh running Mac OS X 10.4.11 or higher with at least 1GB of RAM. > > - MacSpeech Dictate will ship with 6 versions of English: US, UK, > Australian, Indian, Southeast Asian, and Teen. > > - Later this year we will be releasing versions for French, German, > Italian, and Spanish. > > - Later this year we will be releasing Medical and Legal vocabularies. > > - Training literally takes only 5 minutes for most people. Those with > unique vocal characteristics or accents that do not fall into one of > the regional English language models may need to read another story or > two to achieve maximum accuracy, but even for those folks, accuracy > will be better than a fully trained profile in iListen after only 5 > minutes of training. > > - MacSpeech Dictate 1.0 will ship in mid-February. It's retail price > will be $199. Anyone who already has iListen can crossgrade to the new > program for $99. Through next Friday, we are running a Macworld Expo > crossgrade special for existing iListen owners: $79 plus shipping. > This is a special offer that expires next Friday and is a pre-order. > There will not be a download option because the program installs over > 1GB of data on your hard drive. It will be possible to download > upgrades, however. > > - Due to the switch to a new engine, we are no longer shipping copies > of iListen. iListen is available in retail stores and online through > many outlets, including the Apple store. iListen remains a viable > option for anyone running non-Intel-based Macs. > > We are thrilled about this new product. I have been doing demos on the > show floor every day, and even though my voice is getting hoarse, I am > still getting near 100% accuracy even when the show floor is noisy! > > I'd like to stress that MacSpeech Dictate is a 100% Mac-only program, > written from the ground up for Mac OS X. I hope I have answered most > of your questions. If not, please feel free to either email me > personally at chuck.rogers@macspeech.com or post to the list. Keep in > mind I am at Macworld Expo and may not be able to reply right away. > > > Best Regards, > > Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist > MacSpeech, Inc. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice From tscheresky at micron.com Fri Jan 18 11:06:40 2008 From: tscheresky at micron.com (tscheresky@micron.com) Date: Fri Jan 18 11:07:51 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: http://www.macspeech.com/pages.php?pID=52&osCsid=b84480e4e78e4212ea10f29 023fb16e9 -----Original Message----- From: macvoice-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com [mailto:macvoice-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com] On Behalf Of Kai-Man Lee Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:36 AM To: MacVoice Subject: Re: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate Chuck, Where is the MacWorld Expo crossover special? I don't see it on the Macspeech website? Kai-Man > From: Chuck Rogers > Reply-To: "A place to discuss speech recognition on Macintosh." > > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:06:16 -0800 > To: "A place to discuss speech recognition on Macintosh." > > Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate > > All: > > Sorry I have not posted to the list sooner - it has been a very busy > Macworld, as you can imagine! > > By now, most of you probably know, we announced a new product at > Macworld Expo this week - MacSpeech Dictate. I wanted to give you some > of the details about this exciting new product. > > - MacSpeech Dictate is NOT "Dragon on the Mac" anymore than iListen > was "Philips on the Mac." Yes, we are using the incredible Dragon > NaturallySpeaking speech engine, but that is where the resemblance > stops. Basically, we feed the audio into the engine, and text comes > out. What is done with the text is 100% Macintosh code written by us. > Not one line of code from any of Dragon's software programs or from > iListen is used in this new program. > > - MacSpeech Dictate is Intel only, but it will work on any Intel-based > Macintosh running Mac OS X 10.4.11 or higher with at least 1GB of RAM. > > - MacSpeech Dictate will ship with 6 versions of English: US, UK, > Australian, Indian, Southeast Asian, and Teen. > > - Later this year we will be releasing versions for French, German, > Italian, and Spanish. > > - Later this year we will be releasing Medical and Legal vocabularies. > > - Training literally takes only 5 minutes for most people. Those with > unique vocal characteristics or accents that do not fall into one of > the regional English language models may need to read another story or > two to achieve maximum accuracy, but even for those folks, accuracy > will be better than a fully trained profile in iListen after only 5 > minutes of training. > > - MacSpeech Dictate 1.0 will ship in mid-February. It's retail price > will be $199. Anyone who already has iListen can crossgrade to the new > program for $99. Through next Friday, we are running a Macworld Expo > crossgrade special for existing iListen owners: $79 plus shipping. > This is a special offer that expires next Friday and is a pre-order. > There will not be a download option because the program installs over > 1GB of data on your hard drive. It will be possible to download > upgrades, however. > > - Due to the switch to a new engine, we are no longer shipping copies > of iListen. iListen is available in retail stores and online through > many outlets, including the Apple store. iListen remains a viable > option for anyone running non-Intel-based Macs. > > We are thrilled about this new product. I have been doing demos on the > show floor every day, and even though my voice is getting hoarse, I am > still getting near 100% accuracy even when the show floor is noisy! > > I'd like to stress that MacSpeech Dictate is a 100% Mac-only program, > written from the ground up for Mac OS X. I hope I have answered most > of your questions. If not, please feel free to either email me > personally at chuck.rogers@macspeech.com or post to the list. Keep in > mind I am at Macworld Expo and may not be able to reply right away. > > > Best Regards, > > Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist > MacSpeech, Inc. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice _______________________________________________ MacVoice mailing list MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice From JSenecal at aol.com Fri Jan 18 11:42:26 2008 From: JSenecal at aol.com (Joseph Senecal) Date: Fri Jan 18 11:42:51 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: I'm not Chuck, but I've been hearing from others that while the crossgrade price is originally shown as $99, when you continue with the order you see the $79 MacWorld preorder special price. Joe Senecal On Jan 18, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Kai-Man Lee wrote: > Chuck, > > Where is the MacWorld Expo crossover special? I don't see it on the > Macspeech website? > > Kai-Man > From gibsonm at bigpond.net.au Fri Jan 18 12:19:48 2008 From: gibsonm at bigpond.net.au (Mark Gibson) Date: Fri Jan 18 12:20:36 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate - Ordering issues Message-ID: Chuck, Trying to order the cross grade and I'm in a bind. I've registered with the site because the local Aust distributor is a PITA / useless. However when I place the order and proceed to the checkout there is an error because there is no shipping option. FedEx apparently doesn't recognise the post code (even though I'm in Sydney - a fairly large place by Australian standards) and USPS also has an error. Any suggestions? -- Regards, Mark (}-: +61 (0)4 1927 7198 Skype / AIM / iChat: gibsonm1 Windows users often swear at their PC's whereas Mac users often swear by their Macs. From randy at macattorney.com Fri Jan 18 13:20:45 2008 From: randy at macattorney.com (Randy B. Singer) Date: Fri Jan 18 13:20:59 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <9791FEF0-BB11-4EB5-98C3-0DC510B9FFB7@macattorney.com> On Jan 18, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Chuck Rogers wrote: > We are thrilled about this new product. I have been doing demos on > the show floor every day, and even though my voice is getting > hoarse, I am still getting near 100% accuracy even when the show > floor is noisy! I checked out Chuck's demo on the show floor at MWX. People were sitting there with their mouths hanging open! From the questions that were asked, I could tell that most folks thought that what they just saw was too good to be true, and that there must be a catch. But there isn't. This is HUGE! Whenever folks asked me about speech to text in the past, I had to give them sort of a lukewarm answer about it. Not anymore! ___________________________________________ Randy B. Singer Co-author of The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th, and 6th editions) Macintosh OS X Routine Maintenance http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html ___________________________________________ From wkochman at sbcglobal.net Fri Jan 18 13:30:19 2008 From: wkochman at sbcglobal.net (metta) Date: Fri Jan 18 13:30:29 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <559629.95663.qm@web83608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Hot off the MacWorld Press (MacVoice MV Newsletter): --- Chuck Rogers wrote: > All: > > Sorry I have not posted to the list sooner - it has been a very > busy > Macworld, as you can imagine! > > By now, most of you probably know, we announced a new product at > > Macworld Expo this week - MacSpeech Dictate. I wanted to give > you some > of the details about this exciting new product. > > - MacSpeech Dictate is NOT "Dragon on the Mac" anymore than > iListen > was "Philips on the Mac." Yes, we are using the incredible > Dragon > NaturallySpeaking speech engine, but that is where the > resemblance > stops. Basically, we feed the audio into the engine, and text > comes > out. What is done with the text is 100% Macintosh code written > by us. > Not one line of code from any of Dragon's software programs or > from > iListen is used in this new program. > > - MacSpeech Dictate is Intel only, but it will work on any > Intel-based > Macintosh running Mac OS X 10.4.11 or higher with at least 1GB > of RAM. > > - MacSpeech Dictate will ship with 6 versions of English: US, > UK, > Australian, Indian, Southeast Asian, and Teen. > > - Later this year we will be releasing versions for French, > German, > Italian, and Spanish. > > - Later this year we will be releasing Medical and Legal > vocabularies. > > - Training literally takes only 5 minutes for most people. Those > with > unique vocal characteristics or accents that do not fall into > one of > the regional English language models may need to read another > story or > two to achieve maximum accuracy, but even for those folks, > accuracy > will be better than a fully trained profile in iListen after > only 5 > minutes of training. > > - MacSpeech Dictate 1.0 will ship in mid-February. It's retail > price > will be $199. Anyone who already has iListen can crossgrade to > the new > program for $99. Through next Friday, we are running a Macworld > Expo > crossgrade special for existing iListen owners: $79 plus > shipping. > This is a special offer that expires next Friday and is a > pre-order. > There will not be a download option because the program installs > over > 1GB of data on your hard drive. It will be possible to download > > upgrades, however. > > - Due to the switch to a new engine, we are no longer shipping > copies > of iListen. iListen is available in retail stores and online > through > many outlets, including the Apple store. iListen remains a > viable > option for anyone running non-Intel-based Macs. > > We are thrilled about this new product. I have been doing demos > on the > show floor every day, and even though my voice is getting > hoarse, I am > still getting near 100% accuracy even when the show floor is > noisy! > > I'd like to stress that MacSpeech Dictate is a 100% Mac-only > program, > written from the ground up for Mac OS X. I hope I have answered > most > of your questions. If not, please feel free to either email me > personally at chuck.rogers@macspeech.com or post to the list. > Keep in > mind I am at Macworld Expo and may not be able to reply right > away. > > > Best Regards, > > Chuck Rogers, Chief > MacSpeech, Inc. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice > From chuck.rogers at macspeech.com Fri Jan 18 15:33:13 2008 From: chuck.rogers at macspeech.com (Chuck Rogers) Date: Fri Jan 18 15:33:46 2008 Subject: [MV] Re: MacSpeech Dictate - Ordering issues In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: We are having some issues on our web site, due in part to the overwhelming traffic it is experiencing. My advice would be to wait until Monday or Tuesday to place an order. Sent from my iPhone On Jan 18, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Mark Gibson wrote: > Chuck, > > Trying to order the cross grade and I'm in a bind. > > I've registered with the site because the local Aust distributor is > a PITA / useless. > > However when I place the order and proceed to the checkout there is > an error because there is no shipping option. > > FedEx apparently doesn't recognise the post code (even though I'm in > Sydney - a fairly large place by Australian standards) and USPS also > has an error. > > Any suggestions? > -- > > Regards, > > Mark (}-: > +61 (0)4 1927 7198 > Skype / AIM / iChat: gibsonm1 > > Windows users often swear at their PC's whereas Mac users often > swear by their Macs. > > From dianamo at carolina.rr.com Fri Jan 18 17:39:41 2008 From: dianamo at carolina.rr.com (diane bechtler) Date: Fri Jan 18 17:39:52 2008 Subject: [MV] macspeech dictate Message-ID: <005901c85a3c$293780a0$7ba681e0$@rr.com> Please keep me on the lists. Were you able to get the product. I haven't succeeded negotiating the treacherous webwater at macspeech yet. But I will. Diane bechtler dianamo@carolina.rr.com -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macvoice/attachments/20080118/08f68122/attachment.html From thechuck at mac.com Fri Jan 18 21:51:58 2008 From: thechuck at mac.com (Chuck Rogers) Date: Fri Jan 18 21:52:11 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <6BBC9D46-4E94-49B3-A75B-A53651747751@mac.com> Kai-Man: 1). Point your browser to http://www.macspeech.com 2). Click on the MacSpeech Dictate box with the text "Learn how to upgrade to MacSpeech Dictate" under it. 3). Follow the instructions on the page that loads. Best Regards, Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist MacSpeech, Inc. On Jan 18, 2008, at 10:35 AM, Kai-Man Lee wrote: > Chuck, > > Where is the MacWorld Expo crossover special? I don't see it on the > Macspeech website? > > Kai-Man > > >> From: Chuck Rogers >> Reply-To: "A place to discuss speech recognition on Macintosh." >> >> Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2008 08:06:16 -0800 >> To: "A place to discuss speech recognition on Macintosh." >> >> Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate >> >> All: >> >> Sorry I have not posted to the list sooner - it has been a very busy >> Macworld, as you can imagine! >> >> By now, most of you probably know, we announced a new product at >> Macworld Expo this week - MacSpeech Dictate. I wanted to give you >> some >> of the details about this exciting new product. >> >> - MacSpeech Dictate is NOT "Dragon on the Mac" anymore than iListen >> was "Philips on the Mac." Yes, we are using the incredible Dragon >> NaturallySpeaking speech engine, but that is where the resemblance >> stops. Basically, we feed the audio into the engine, and text comes >> out. What is done with the text is 100% Macintosh code written by us. >> Not one line of code from any of Dragon's software programs or from >> iListen is used in this new program. >> >> - MacSpeech Dictate is Intel only, but it will work on any Intel- >> based >> Macintosh running Mac OS X 10.4.11 or higher with at least 1GB of >> RAM. >> >> - MacSpeech Dictate will ship with 6 versions of English: US, UK, >> Australian, Indian, Southeast Asian, and Teen. >> >> - Later this year we will be releasing versions for French, German, >> Italian, and Spanish. >> >> - Later this year we will be releasing Medical and Legal >> vocabularies. >> >> - Training literally takes only 5 minutes for most people. Those with >> unique vocal characteristics or accents that do not fall into one of >> the regional English language models may need to read another story >> or >> two to achieve maximum accuracy, but even for those folks, accuracy >> will be better than a fully trained profile in iListen after only 5 >> minutes of training. >> >> - MacSpeech Dictate 1.0 will ship in mid-February. It's retail price >> will be $199. Anyone who already has iListen can crossgrade to the >> new >> program for $99. Through next Friday, we are running a Macworld Expo >> crossgrade special for existing iListen owners: $79 plus shipping. >> This is a special offer that expires next Friday and is a pre-order. >> There will not be a download option because the program installs over >> 1GB of data on your hard drive. It will be possible to download >> upgrades, however. >> >> - Due to the switch to a new engine, we are no longer shipping copies >> of iListen. iListen is available in retail stores and online through >> many outlets, including the Apple store. iListen remains a viable >> option for anyone running non-Intel-based Macs. >> >> We are thrilled about this new product. I have been doing demos on >> the >> show floor every day, and even though my voice is getting hoarse, I >> am >> still getting near 100% accuracy even when the show floor is noisy! >> >> I'd like to stress that MacSpeech Dictate is a 100% Mac-only program, >> written from the ground up for Mac OS X. I hope I have answered most >> of your questions. If not, please feel free to either email me >> personally at chuck.rogers@macspeech.com or post to the list. Keep in >> mind I am at Macworld Expo and may not be able to reply right away. >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist >> MacSpeech, Inc. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacVoice mailing list >> MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice > > > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice From jon.5j5 at gmail.com Sat Jan 19 10:57:18 2008 From: jon.5j5 at gmail.com (jon.5j5) Date: Sat Jan 19 10:57:30 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: <559629.95663.qm@web83608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> References: <559629.95663.qm@web83608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <83f5848c0801191057o17e81ac8pfa793c90cb60a9b8@mail.gmail.com> Hey Chuck, Congratulations on the new product and thank you for serving the Macintosh market so faithfully. -jon Portland Oregon p.s. My only comment is that sometimes marketing and branding gets in the way. It would be nice to see something like you mentioned that I've quoted below up front in the marketing material. It's mentioned on the iListen product page of course, but it would be nice to hear it up front on the very front page and on the MacSpeech Dictate pages rather than having to >root around the site< to figure out what exactly next generation really means or that it's really your new road map. I guess that's partially just my own sarcasm at how advertisers use the words: new, improved, or next generation and my own desire to have things more clear. (just a small complaint and mostly a comment, that's all) (also I'm reminded of the quote ~sorry for the length of this, I would be more clear if I had more time (to write it)! I've heard it attributed to Abe Lincoln, but I think it goes back to one of the great Roman orators.) p.p.s. Thanks Again & Congratulations! On Jan 18, 2008 1:30 PM, metta wrote: > Hot off the MacWorld Press (MacVoice MV Newsletter): > > --- Chuck Rogers wrote: > > > > - Due to the switch to a new engine, we are no longer shipping > > copies > > of iListen. iListen is available in retail stores and online > > through > > many outlets, including the Apple store. iListen remains a > > viable > > option for anyone running non-Intel-based Macs. > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macvoice/attachments/20080119/f7af88dd/attachment.html From chuck.rogers at macspeech.com Sat Jan 19 12:12:44 2008 From: chuck.rogers at macspeech.com (Chuck Rogers) Date: Sat Jan 19 12:13:05 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: <83f5848c0801191057o17e81ac8pfa793c90cb60a9b8@mail.gmail.com> References: <559629.95663.qm@web83608.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> <83f5848c0801191057o17e81ac8pfa793c90cb60a9b8@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Thanks, Jon. I've sent a suggestion on how this might be handled to our webmaster. On Jan 19, 2008, at 10:57 AM, jon.5j5 wrote: > Hey Chuck, > > Congratulations on the new product and thank you for serving the > Macintosh market so faithfully. > > -jon > Portland Oregon > > p.s. My only comment is that sometimes marketing and branding gets > in the way. It would be nice to see something like you mentioned > that I've quoted below up front in the marketing material. It's > mentioned on the iListen product page of course, but it would be > nice to hear it up front on the very front page and on the MacSpeech > Dictate pages rather than having to >root around the site< to figure > out what exactly next generation really means or that it's really > your new road map. > > I guess that's partially just my own sarcasm at how advertisers > use the words: new, improved, or next generation and my own desire > to have things more clear. (just a small complaint and mostly a > comment, that's all) (also I'm reminded of the quote ~sorry for the > length of this, I would be more clear if I had more time (to write > it)! I've heard it attributed to Abe Lincoln, but I think it goes > back to one of the great Roman orators.) > > p.p.s. Thanks Again & Congratulations! > From ian at iangilman.com Mon Jan 21 22:34:26 2008 From: ian at iangilman.com (Ian Gilman) Date: Mon Jan 21 22:35:21 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: This is a very exciting! What I really want to know is whether this new application fixes iListen's serious interface flaws, like the distinction between dictation and command mode, and the requirement that you not touch your text before correcting it. -- Ian Gilman -- digital renaissance man -- www.iangilman.com -- 415-706-8447 On Jan 18, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Chuck Rogers wrote: > All: > > Sorry I have not posted to the list sooner - it has been a very > busy Macworld, as you can imagine! > > By now, most of you probably know, we announced a new product at > Macworld Expo this week - MacSpeech Dictate. I wanted to give you > some of the details about this exciting new product. > > - MacSpeech Dictate is NOT "Dragon on the Mac" anymore than iListen > was "Philips on the Mac." Yes, we are using the incredible Dragon > NaturallySpeaking speech engine, but that is where the resemblance > stops. Basically, we feed the audio into the engine, and text comes > out. What is done with the text is 100% Macintosh code written by > us. Not one line of code from any of Dragon's software programs or > from iListen is used in this new program. > > - MacSpeech Dictate is Intel only, but it will work on any Intel- > based Macintosh running Mac OS X 10.4.11 or higher with at least > 1GB of RAM. > > - MacSpeech Dictate will ship with 6 versions of English: US, UK, > Australian, Indian, Southeast Asian, and Teen. > > - Later this year we will be releasing versions for French, German, > Italian, and Spanish. > > - Later this year we will be releasing Medical and Legal vocabularies. > > - Training literally takes only 5 minutes for most people. Those > with unique vocal characteristics or accents that do not fall into > one of the regional English language models may need to read > another story or two to achieve maximum accuracy, but even for > those folks, accuracy will be better than a fully trained profile > in iListen after only 5 minutes of training. > > - MacSpeech Dictate 1.0 will ship in mid-February. It's retail > price will be $199. Anyone who already has iListen can crossgrade > to the new program for $99. Through next Friday, we are running a > Macworld Expo crossgrade special for existing iListen owners: $79 > plus shipping. This is a special offer that expires next Friday and > is a pre-order. There will not be a download option because the > program installs over 1GB of data on your hard drive. It will be > possible to download upgrades, however. > > - Due to the switch to a new engine, we are no longer shipping > copies of iListen. iListen is available in retail stores and online > through many outlets, including the Apple store. iListen remains a > viable option for anyone running non-Intel-based Macs. > > We are thrilled about this new product. I have been doing demos on > the show floor every day, and even though my voice is getting > hoarse, I am still getting near 100% accuracy even when the show > floor is noisy! > > I'd like to stress that MacSpeech Dictate is a 100% Mac-only > program, written from the ground up for Mac OS X. I hope I have > answered most of your questions. If not, please feel free to either > email me personally at chuck.rogers@macspeech.com or post to the > list. Keep in mind I am at Macworld Expo and may not be able to > reply right away. > > > Best Regards, > > Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist > MacSpeech, Inc. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice From tscheresky at micron.com Tue Jan 22 05:29:04 2008 From: tscheresky at micron.com (tscheresky@micron.com) Date: Tue Jan 22 05:29:21 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: > iListen's serious interface flaws, like the distinction between dictation and command mode I'm not sure I understand what your complaint is here. Could you please explain. Thanks... Todd -----Original Message----- From: macvoice-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com [mailto:macvoice-bounces@listserver.themacintoshguy.com] On Behalf Of Ian Gilman Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 11:34 PM To: A place to discuss speech recognition on Macintosh. Subject: Re: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate This is a very exciting! What I really want to know is whether this new application fixes iListen's serious interface flaws, like the distinction between dictation and command mode, and the requirement that you not touch your text before correcting it. -- Ian Gilman -- digital renaissance man -- www.iangilman.com -- 415-706-8447 On Jan 18, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Chuck Rogers wrote: > All: > > Sorry I have not posted to the list sooner - it has been a very busy > Macworld, as you can imagine! > > By now, most of you probably know, we announced a new product at > Macworld Expo this week - MacSpeech Dictate. I wanted to give you some > of the details about this exciting new product. > > - MacSpeech Dictate is NOT "Dragon on the Mac" anymore than iListen > was "Philips on the Mac." Yes, we are using the incredible Dragon > NaturallySpeaking speech engine, but that is where the resemblance > stops. Basically, we feed the audio into the engine, and text comes > out. What is done with the text is 100% Macintosh code written by us. > Not one line of code from any of Dragon's software programs or from > iListen is used in this new program. > > - MacSpeech Dictate is Intel only, but it will work on any Intel- > based Macintosh running Mac OS X 10.4.11 or higher with at least 1GB > of RAM. > > - MacSpeech Dictate will ship with 6 versions of English: US, UK, > Australian, Indian, Southeast Asian, and Teen. > > - Later this year we will be releasing versions for French, German, > Italian, and Spanish. > > - Later this year we will be releasing Medical and Legal vocabularies. > > - Training literally takes only 5 minutes for most people. Those with > unique vocal characteristics or accents that do not fall into one of > the regional English language models may need to read another story or > two to achieve maximum accuracy, but even for those folks, accuracy > will be better than a fully trained profile in iListen after only 5 > minutes of training. > > - MacSpeech Dictate 1.0 will ship in mid-February. It's retail price > will be $199. Anyone who already has iListen can crossgrade to the new > program for $99. Through next Friday, we are running a Macworld Expo > crossgrade special for existing iListen owners: $79 plus shipping. > This is a special offer that expires next Friday and is a pre-order. > There will not be a download option because the program installs over > 1GB of data on your hard drive. It will be possible to download > upgrades, however. > > - Due to the switch to a new engine, we are no longer shipping copies > of iListen. iListen is available in retail stores and online through > many outlets, including the Apple store. iListen remains a viable > option for anyone running non-Intel-based Macs. > > We are thrilled about this new product. I have been doing demos on the > show floor every day, and even though my voice is getting hoarse, I am > still getting near 100% accuracy even when the show floor is noisy! > > I'd like to stress that MacSpeech Dictate is a 100% Mac-only program, > written from the ground up for Mac OS X. I hope I have answered most > of your questions. If not, please feel free to either email me > personally at chuck.rogers@macspeech.com or post to the list. Keep in > mind I am at Macworld Expo and may not be able to reply right away. > > > Best Regards, > > Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist > MacSpeech, Inc. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice _______________________________________________ MacVoice mailing list MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice From chuck.rogers at macspeech.com Tue Jan 22 08:12:43 2008 From: chuck.rogers at macspeech.com (Chuck Rogers) Date: Tue Jan 22 08:13:44 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <0754DB13-91C4-4E6B-9C4A-FB4FB3C87F8A@macspeech.com> Ian: Like Dragon NaturallySpeaking, MacSpeech Dictate has both a Dictation and a Command mode. Unlike iListen, however, you can utter commands in Dictate mode and they are properly recognized as such, providing you pause briefly before and after the command (which you also have to do in NaturallySpeaking to get the best results). The new program also has a built-in Notepad, in which you can talk or type in any combination without causing synchronization problems. You may still have problems in other applications however. It should be noted that this really wasn't a flaw in iListen, but a byproduct of how other programs are written. In Mac OS X other programs do not handle their text in such a way that it is easy for us to manage text that we didn't put there. Best Regards, Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist MacSpeech, Inc. On Jan 21, 2008, at 10:34 PM, Ian Gilman wrote: > This is a very exciting! > > What I really want to know is whether this new application fixes > iListen's serious interface flaws, like the distinction between > dictation and command mode, and the requirement that you not touch > your text before correcting it. > > -- Ian Gilman-- digital renaissance man > -- www.iangilman.com-- 415-706-8447 > > On Jan 18, 2008, at 8:06 AM, Chuck Rogers wrote: > >> All: >> >> Sorry I have not posted to the list sooner - it has been a very >> busy Macworld, as you can imagine! >> >> By now, most of you probably know, we announced a new product at >> Macworld Expo this week - MacSpeech Dictate. I wanted to give you >> some of the details about this exciting new product. >> >> - MacSpeech Dictate is NOT "Dragon on the Mac" anymore than iListen >> was "Philips on the Mac." Yes, we are using the incredible Dragon >> NaturallySpeaking speech engine, but that is where the resemblance >> stops. Basically, we feed the audio into the engine, and text comes >> out. What is done with the text is 100% Macintosh code written by >> us. Not one line of code from any of Dragon's software programs or >> from iListen is used in this new program. >> >> - MacSpeech Dictate is Intel only, but it will work on any Intel- >> based Macintosh running Mac OS X 10.4.11 or higher with at least >> 1GB of RAM. >> >> - MacSpeech Dictate will ship with 6 versions of English: US, UK, >> Australian, Indian, Southeast Asian, and Teen. >> >> - Later this year we will be releasing versions for French, German, >> Italian, and Spanish. >> >> - Later this year we will be releasing Medical and Legal >> vocabularies. >> >> - Training literally takes only 5 minutes for most people. Those >> with unique vocal characteristics or accents that do not fall into >> one of the regional English language models may need to read >> another story or two to achieve maximum accuracy, but even for >> those folks, accuracy will be better than a fully trained profile >> in iListen after only 5 minutes of training. >> >> - MacSpeech Dictate 1.0 will ship in mid-February. It's retail >> price will be $199. Anyone who already has iListen can crossgrade >> to the new program for $99. Through next Friday, we are running a >> Macworld Expo crossgrade special for existing iListen owners: $79 >> plus shipping. This is a special offer that expires next Friday and >> is a pre-order. There will not be a download option because the >> program installs over 1GB of data on your hard drive. It will be >> possible to download upgrades, however. >> >> - Due to the switch to a new engine, we are no longer shipping >> copies of iListen. iListen is available in retail stores and online >> through many outlets, including the Apple store. iListen remains a >> viable option for anyone running non-Intel-based Macs. >> >> We are thrilled about this new product. I have been doing demos on >> the show floor every day, and even though my voice is getting >> hoarse, I am still getting near 100% accuracy even when the show >> floor is noisy! >> >> I'd like to stress that MacSpeech Dictate is a 100% Mac-only >> program, written from the ground up for Mac OS X. I hope I have >> answered most of your questions. If not, please feel free to either >> email me personally at chuck.rogers@macspeech.com or post to the >> list. Keep in mind I am at Macworld Expo and may not be able to >> reply right away. >> >> >> Best Regards, >> >> Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist >> MacSpeech, Inc. >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacVoice mailing list >> MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice > > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice From ahdfox at mac.com Tue Jan 22 09:39:30 2008 From: ahdfox at mac.com (Damien Fox) Date: Tue Jan 22 09:42:11 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: <0754DB13-91C4-4E6B-9C4A-FB4FB3C87F8A@macspeech.com> References: <0754DB13-91C4-4E6B-9C4A-FB4FB3C87F8A@macspeech.com> Message-ID: Chuck, Does Dictate work mostly like Dragon does? i.e. 1) How are words added? With the old phonetic editor, or with Dragon's (and ViaVoice's) "type it out and record your pronunciation" system? 2) How does correction function? Is it like Dragon's "say and replace" that can be done while working on the document? 3) Will there be special plugins for Word/Pages/etc, like Dragon, so that Dictate can work flawlessly in those apps, just like it will in the included Dictate Notepad? Thanks, -Damien Toronto, Canada From chuck.rogers at macspeech.com Tue Jan 22 09:49:57 2008 From: chuck.rogers at macspeech.com (Chuck Rogers) Date: Tue Jan 22 09:50:14 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: References: <0754DB13-91C4-4E6B-9C4A-FB4FB3C87F8A@macspeech.com> Message-ID: <1946985F-D538-46A4-8F67-19C79A90710A@macspeech.com> Damien (and everyone else): First, let me make one thing very clear: this is not "Dragon on the Mac." So don't expect everything to work the way Dragon NaturallySpeaking does. There is not one line of code from the Dragon NaturallySpeaking program in MacSpeech Dictate. Any similarities between the two programs (other than the amazing accuracy) will be because that is simply the best way to do something, not because Dragon does it that way. To answer your questions specifically: > 1) How are words added? With the old phonetic editor, or with > Dragon's (and ViaVoice's) "type it out and record your > pronunciation" system? Right now, words are added through Vocabulary Training. Additional features for adding words will be added in a later version. > > > 2) How does correction function? Is it like Dragon's "say and > replace" that can be done while working on the document? Version 1.0 will not have a traditional Correction interface. You correct mis-recognitions by selecting the mis-recognized word or phrase and then either re-speak it or type it in manually. (You can select by voice, btw.) We are totally re-inventing the way we do Correction compared to iListen, and we are taking the time to do it right. We will offer Correction features in a free upgrade. > > > 3) Will there be special plugins for Word/Pages/etc, like Dragon, so > that Dictate can work flawlessly in those apps, just like it will in > the included Dictate Notepad? Right now we are concentrating on getting version 1.0 out the door. After that, our focus will be Correction. It is too early to speculate on what applications will be supported with Correction. Best Regards, Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist MacSpeech, Inc. From ahdfox at mac.com Tue Jan 22 10:15:00 2008 From: ahdfox at mac.com (Damien Fox) Date: Tue Jan 22 10:15:35 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: <1946985F-D538-46A4-8F67-19C79A90710A@macspeech.com> References: <0754DB13-91C4-4E6B-9C4A-FB4FB3C87F8A@macspeech.com> <1946985F-D538-46A4-8F67-19C79A90710A@macspeech.com> Message-ID: Chuck- Thanks for the fast answers! On 22-Jan-08, at 12:49 PM, Chuck Rogers wrote: > Damien (and everyone else): > > First, let me make one thing very clear: this is not "Dragon on the > Mac." So don't expect everything to work the way Dragon > NaturallySpeaking does. There is not one line of code from the > Dragon NaturallySpeaking program in MacSpeech Dictate. Any > similarities between the two programs (other than the amazing > accuracy) will be because that is simply the best way to do > something, not because Dragon does it that way. > sounds good-- dragon is a windows app, after all! > To answer your questions specifically: > >> 1) How are words added? With the old phonetic editor, or with >> Dragon's (and ViaVoice's) "type it out and record your >> pronunciation" system? > Right now, words are added through Vocabulary Training. Additional > features for adding words will be added in a later version. >> >> 2) How does correction function? Is it like Dragon's "say and >> replace" that can be done while working on the document? > Version 1.0 will not have a traditional Correction interface. You > correct mis-recognitions by selecting the mis-recognized word or > phrase and then either re-speak it or type it in manually. (You can > select by voice, btw.) We are totally re-inventing the way we do > Correction compared to iListen, and we are taking the time to do it > right. We will offer Correction features in a free upgrade. > sounds like the same function as the part(s) of dragon that I find works so well-- i like correcting right away. >> 3) Will there be special plugins for Word/Pages/etc, like Dragon, >> so that Dictate can work flawlessly in those apps, just like it >> will in the included Dictate Notepad? > Right now we are concentrating on getting version 1.0 out the door. > After that, our focus will be Correction. It is too early to > speculate on what applications will be supported with Correction. > Best Regards, > > Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist > MacSpeech, Inc. With respect, then it sounds like a late Beta rather than a 1.0. Not to nitpick, but as a strong supporter of MacSpeech, I would rather have expectations that match the product-- i.e. "wow, what a great beta, can't wait for 1.0", rather than "wow, 1.0 is lame, wish I had waited for 1.1, or 2.0". Still, the code shipping next month will be the same either way. -damien From kalirhe at umdnj.edu Tue Jan 22 10:24:02 2008 From: kalirhe at umdnj.edu (Henry Kalir) Date: Tue Jan 22 10:25:08 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: <1946985F-D538-46A4-8F67-19C79A90710A@macspeech.com> References: <0754DB13-91C4-4E6B-9C4A-FB4FB3C87F8A@macspeech.com> <1946985F-D538-46A4-8F67-19C79A90710A@macspeech.com> Message-ID: Dear Chuck, There's nothing wrong in using what clearly appears to be the BETTER engine! Apple has taken its turn for the better in moving on to Intel processors and now that you've been able to - you've made a wise move too. MacSpeech Inc is to be congratulated on this! Best, Henry PS - Which dictation devices will work here? Damien (and everyone else): First, let me make one thing very clear: this is not "Dragon on the Mac." So don't expect everything to work the way Dragon NaturallySpeaking does. There is not one line of code from the Dragon NaturallySpeaking program in MacSpeech Dictate. Any similarities between the two programs (other than the amazing accuracy) will be because that is simply the best way to do something, not because Dragon does it that way. To answer your questions specifically: > 1) How are words added? With the old phonetic editor, or with > Dragon's (and ViaVoice's) "type it out and record your > pronunciation" system? Right now, words are added through Vocabulary Training. Additional features for adding words will be added in a later version. > > > 2) How does correction function? Is it like Dragon's "say and > replace" that can be done while working on the document? Version 1.0 will not have a traditional Correction interface. You correct mis-recognitions by selecting the mis-recognized word or phrase and then either re-speak it or type it in manually. (You can select by voice, btw.) We are totally re-inventing the way we do Correction compared to iListen, and we are taking the time to do it right. We will offer Correction features in a free upgrade. > > > 3) Will there be special plugins for Word/Pages/etc, like Dragon, so > that Dictate can work flawlessly in those apps, just like it will in > the included Dictate Notepad? Right now we are concentrating on getting version 1.0 out the door. After that, our focus will be Correction. It is too early to speculate on what applications will be supported with Correction. Best Regards, Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist MacSpeech, Inc. From chuck.rogers at macspeech.com Tue Jan 22 10:37:16 2008 From: chuck.rogers at macspeech.com (Chuck Rogers) Date: Tue Jan 22 10:38:02 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: References: <0754DB13-91C4-4E6B-9C4A-FB4FB3C87F8A@macspeech.com> <1946985F-D538-46A4-8F67-19C79A90710A@macspeech.com> Message-ID: <9CE467B3-E07D-44EE-A1FC-BC282ECDEFFA@macspeech.com> Damien (and everyone else): Beta software is software that is "feature complete" and free of known bugs. The purpose of beta testing is to find bugs the development team did not find - the unknown bugs. In some cases, of course, things aren't always that clear cut. Sometimes, beta software has some known issues that the development team is still working on, but they need people to beat up on the rest of the program. This is important, as the development team does not have the same machine configurations or combinations of installed software as the wide variety of our users. So let's look at the phrase "feature complete" for just a moment. It is up to the developer to decide what features it will ship with its software. In this particular case, we have been listening to our customers very carefully. iListen's Correction feature was very innovative when it was introduced in 2000. But today we have many other tools at our disposal, and over 7 years of experience under our belts.We want to take the time to get it right. In no way should anyone consider what we release next month as beta software. If we wanted to release beta software, we'd release what we have today. But we feel the accuracy is so good with this new product that most people will only be using Correction when they want to add a word - mis-recognitions will be few and far between. So we had a choice: release 1.0 without Correction (while we take the time to get it right), or hold up release. In light of the amazing accuracy you will get and the fact you can add words using Vocabulary Training, we thought it best for both our users and ourselves to get the software out there as soon as possible. We will be offering a free update to a version that includes Correction as soon as we possibly can. Best Regards, Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist MacSpeech, Inc. On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:15 AM, Damien Fox wrote: > Chuck- Thanks for the fast answers! > > On 22-Jan-08, at 12:49 PM, Chuck Rogers wrote: >> Damien (and everyone else): >> >> First, let me make one thing very clear: this is not "Dragon on the >> Mac." So don't expect everything to work the way Dragon >> NaturallySpeaking does. There is not one line of code from the >> Dragon NaturallySpeaking program in MacSpeech Dictate. Any >> similarities between the two programs (other than the amazing >> accuracy) will be because that is simply the best way to do >> something, not because Dragon does it that way. >> > sounds good-- dragon is a windows app, after all! > >> To answer your questions specifically: >> >>> 1) How are words added? With the old phonetic editor, or with >>> Dragon's (and ViaVoice's) "type it out and record your >>> pronunciation" system? >> Right now, words are added through Vocabulary Training. Additional >> features for adding words will be added in a later version. >>> >>> 2) How does correction function? Is it like Dragon's "say and >>> replace" that can be done while working on the document? >> Version 1.0 will not have a traditional Correction interface. You >> correct mis-recognitions by selecting the mis-recognized word or >> phrase and then either re-speak it or type it in manually. (You can >> select by voice, btw.) We are totally re-inventing the way we do >> Correction compared to iListen, and we are taking the time to do it >> right. We will offer Correction features in a free upgrade. >> > sounds like the same function as the part(s) of dragon that I find > works so well-- i like correcting right away. > >>> 3) Will there be special plugins for Word/Pages/etc, like Dragon, >>> so that Dictate can work flawlessly in those apps, just like it >>> will in the included Dictate Notepad? >> Right now we are concentrating on getting version 1.0 out the door. >> After that, our focus will be Correction. It is too early to >> speculate on what applications will be supported with Correction. >> Best Regards, >> >> Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist >> MacSpeech, Inc. > > With respect, then it sounds like a late Beta rather than a 1.0. > > Not to nitpick, but as a strong supporter of MacSpeech, I would > rather have expectations that match the product-- i.e. "wow, what a > great beta, can't wait for 1.0", rather than "wow, 1.0 is lame, wish > I had waited for 1.1, or 2.0". Still, the code shipping next month > will be the same either way. > -damien > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice From chuck.rogers at macspeech.com Tue Jan 22 10:39:36 2008 From: chuck.rogers at macspeech.com (Chuck Rogers) Date: Tue Jan 22 10:39:52 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate In-Reply-To: References: <0754DB13-91C4-4E6B-9C4A-FB4FB3C87F8A@macspeech.com> <1946985F-D538-46A4-8F67-19C79A90710A@macspeech.com> Message-ID: Henry (and everyone else): Thanks for your kind words. Version 1.0 will not accept files from any "dictation devices" except through direct audio input from the device's headphone output to the microphone input of the USB adapter for your head-worn microphone. Support for transcription from a digital recorder will be an add-on that we release later in the year. We will announce what devices we support at that time. On Jan 22, 2008, at 10:24 AM, Henry Kalir wrote: > Dear Chuck, > > There's nothing wrong in using what clearly appears to be the BETTER > engine! > Apple has taken its turn for the better in moving on to Intel > processors and now that you've been able to - you've made a wise > move too. > > MacSpeech Inc is to be congratulated on this! > > Best, > > Henry > > PS - Which dictation devices will work here? > > > Damien (and everyone else): > > First, let me make one thing very clear: this is not "Dragon on the > Mac." So don't expect everything to work the way Dragon > NaturallySpeaking does. There is not one line of code from the Dragon > NaturallySpeaking program in MacSpeech Dictate. Any similarities > between the two programs (other than the amazing accuracy) will be > because that is simply the best way to do something, not because > Dragon does it that way. > > To answer your questions specifically: > > >> 1) How are words added? With the old phonetic editor, or with >> Dragon's (and ViaVoice's) "type it out and record your >> pronunciation" system? > > Right now, words are added through Vocabulary Training. Additional > features for adding words will be added in a later version. > >> >> >> 2) How does correction function? Is it like Dragon's "say and >> replace" that can be done while working on the document? > > Version 1.0 will not have a traditional Correction interface. You > correct mis-recognitions by selecting the mis-recognized word or > phrase and then either re-speak it or type it in manually. (You can > select by voice, btw.) We are totally re-inventing the way we do > Correction compared to iListen, and we are taking the time to do it > right. We will offer Correction features in a free upgrade. > >> >> >> 3) Will there be special plugins for Word/Pages/etc, like Dragon, so >> that Dictate can work flawlessly in those apps, just like it will in >> the included Dictate Notepad? > > Right now we are concentrating on getting version 1.0 out the door. > After that, our focus will be Correction. It is too early to speculate > on what applications will be supported with Correction. > > > Best Regards, > > Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist > MacSpeech, Inc. > > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice From tscheresky at micron.com Wed Jan 23 18:10:59 2008 From: tscheresky at micron.com (tscheresky@micron.com) Date: Wed Jan 23 18:11:09 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate correction suggestions In-Reply-To: Message-ID: I've heard you (MacSpeech) want to do correction right in MacSpeech Dictate. Well, that's all fine and good but there are number of things that MacSpeech Dictate correction must have to be considered "done right". * ability to correct dictation wherever you have dictated it. * ability to select what you want to correct by voice. * after you have selected what you want to correct you should be able to bring up a correction dialog using a keyboard shortcut or a spoken command. * correction dialog should have 1-N guesses of what it thought you said, where N is a preference setting, and should be able to choose a guess by keyboard or voice. * if none of the guesses in the correction dialog are exactly what you said, you should be able edit the closest match by voice or keyboard. If by voice you should be able to move to beginning or end of phrase by speaking a command. If you need to edit a word in the phrase you should be able to move the cursor left-or-right 1-N characters or words. If you need to add a word or correct one in the dialog, you should be able to backspace or delete 1-N characters, and add characters by spelling them using either the international communication alphabet or the letter names. * once the phrase is corrected you should be able to exit the dialog by voice, and be returned to the point where you were dictating prior to doing the correction. That seems like a reasonable starting point. If anyone can think of anything else, please mention it. Thanks... Todd From ahdfox at mac.com Wed Jan 23 19:14:30 2008 From: ahdfox at mac.com (Damien Fox) Date: Wed Jan 23 19:14:47 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate correction suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <10A13564-9976-4269-974A-6F7AED118826@mac.com> Todd, I agree almost completely-- but those things you mention must be either automatic or by voice, kybd input just doesn't cut it. Dragon does it w/o the keyboard, so could Dictate. cheers, -damien On 23-Jan-08, at 9:10 PM, tscheresky@micron.com wrote: > I've heard you (MacSpeech) want to do correction right in MacSpeech > Dictate. Well, that's all fine and good but there are number of > things > that MacSpeech Dictate correction must have to be considered "done > right". > > * ability to correct dictation wherever you have > dictated it. > * ability to select what you want to correct by voice. > * after you have selected what you want to correct you > should be able to bring up a correction dialog using > a keyboard shortcut or a spoken command. > * correction dialog should have 1-N guesses of what it > thought you said, where N is a preference setting, > and should be able to choose a guess by keyboard or > voice. > * if none of the guesses in the correction dialog are > exactly what you said, you should be able edit the > closest match by voice or keyboard. If by voice you > should be able to move to beginning or end of phrase > by speaking a command. If you need to edit a word > in the phrase you should be able to move the cursor > left-or-right 1-N characters or words. If you need > to add a word or correct one in the dialog, you > should be able to backspace or delete 1-N characters, > and add characters by spelling them using either > the international communication alphabet or the > letter names. > * once the phrase is corrected you should be able to > exit the dialog by voice, and be returned to the > point where you were dictating prior to doing the > correction. > > That seems like a reasonable starting point. If anyone can think of > anything else, please mention it. > > Thanks... > > Todd > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice From willrob at chorus.net Thu Jan 24 06:34:59 2008 From: willrob at chorus.net (William Robinson) Date: Thu Jan 24 06:35:14 2008 Subject: [MV] Crossgrade problems Message-ID: I purchased iListen after MacWorld Expo and received version 1.8 two days ago. After registering I went to the MacSpeech web site and attempted to order the $29 dollar crossgrade. But when I followed the directions on the site I was taken to a page that said the crossgrade would cost me $99. I contacted customer service, via e-mail, but they have not responded. Last night I went to the web site again and discovered a message stating that we needed to be patient, that there was a much larger response to the crossgrade than anticipated. When I checked the links that would take me to the price, I was met with a screen that said I had already crossgraded. I hadn't. But apparently clicking on that link when I first attempted to upgrade flipped some switch to make it appear that I have. So if you purchased iListen this month, with the expectation of crossgrading to the new product, beware. Wait a while for MacSpeech to sort out their website and orderingprocess. William Robinson -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macvoice/attachments/20080124/ca7ba50a/attachment-0001.html From thechuck at mac.com Thu Jan 24 08:02:21 2008 From: thechuck at mac.com (Chuck Rogers) Date: Thu Jan 24 08:03:08 2008 Subject: [MV] Crossgrade problems In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <691A91C3-DB4A-490E-88AF-ADEC71A79E82@mac.com> All: William is correct. 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/macvoice/attachments/20080124/f3f12ded/attachment.html From chuck.rogers at macspeech.com Thu Jan 24 09:54:15 2008 From: chuck.rogers at macspeech.com (Chuck Rogers) Date: Thu Jan 24 09:54:29 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate Crossgrade Issues Message-ID: <7885651B-9F73-4DE7-B151-0207D2846B2B@macspeech.com> All: We are still having some problems tracking down the exact nature of the problem on our web site regarding crossgrade orders. In order to speed up the process of tracking this down, we have established a new department in our Support system for collecting information regarding these problems. If you are having problems ordering your crossgrade, please do the following: 1). Point your browser to 2). Click on "Submit Ticket." 3). Click on "MacSpeech Dictate" 4). Click on "Dictate cross grade issues" 5). Click the "Next" button. 6). Enter your email address and a subject in the appropriate fields. 7). In the large text field, please enter the following information: - Enter your name. - Enter your iListen Activation Code - describe the sequence of events that led up to the problem - if possible, please attach a screenshot. This will help our web team determine why some people have no problem getting an order through while others do have problems. Thanks in advance. Best Regards, Chuck Rogers, Chief Evangelist MacSpeech, Inc. From mike at gherrity.org Mon Jan 28 18:09:50 2008 From: mike at gherrity.org (Michael Gherrity) Date: Mon Jan 28 18:09:59 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate correction suggestions In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5A18AFD6-7739-48DF-85C0-62A146F26539@gherrity.org> I would like to add to this list. I don't understand how a computer, or program, can use the phrase "universal access "and assume that the user has perfect vision. For example, the red yellow and green gumballs on the top menu bar of every window on the Macintosh cannot be resized for easier viewing. Many fonts that are used by the Macintosh cannot be resized. I would hope that the new correction program for MacSpeech would include resizable fonts for all windows. mike On Jan 23, 2008, at 6:10 PM, wrote: > I've heard you (MacSpeech) want to do correction right in MacSpeech > Dictate. Well, that's all fine and good but there are number of > things > that MacSpeech Dictate correction must have to be considered "done > right". > > * ability to correct dictation wherever you have > dictated it. > * ability to select what you want to correct by voice. > * after you have selected what you want to correct you > should be able to bring up a correction dialog using > a keyboard shortcut or a spoken command. > * correction dialog should have 1-N guesses of what it > thought you said, where N is a preference setting, > and should be able to choose a guess by keyboard or > voice. > * if none of the guesses in the correction dialog are > exactly what you said, you should be able edit the > closest match by voice or keyboard. If by voice you > should be able to move to beginning or end of phrase > by speaking a command. If you need to edit a word > in the phrase you should be able to move the cursor > left-or-right 1-N characters or words. If you need > to add a word or correct one in the dialog, you > should be able to backspace or delete 1-N characters, > and add characters by spelling them using either > the international communication alphabet or the > letter names. > * once the phrase is corrected you should be able to > exit the dialog by voice, and be returned to the > point where you were dictating prior to doing the > correction. > > That seems like a reasonable starting point. If anyone can think of > anything else, please mention it. > > Thanks... > > Todd > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice From macsongbird at mac.com Tue Jan 29 04:15:05 2008 From: macsongbird at mac.com (Erica Mackenzie) Date: Tue Jan 29 04:16:41 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate correction suggestions In-Reply-To: <10A13564-9976-4269-974A-6F7AED118826@mac.com> Message-ID: At 1:14 PM, 24/1/08 or thereabouts, Damien Fox spake thus: >Todd, > >I agree almost completely-- but those things you mention must be >either automatic or by voice, kybd input just doesn't cut it. Dragon >does it w/o the keyboard, so could Dictate. But there should still be a keyboard option for everything. Those of us with memory problems can then use the keyboard for these simple tasks and let Dictate do the actual serious typing. We don't all have exactly the same kind of disability, or the same needs, or the same preferences. I could probably commit to memory five or six commonly used voice commands, but would be completely incapable of memorising the dozens needed to command the programme solely by voice. Mac programmes are famous for giving people the freedom of choice which their PC brethren lack; don't let Dictate be the exception. Best, Erica M.N. Mackenzie Sunshine Coast, QLD, AUSTRALIA From scott at cvrti.utah.edu Tue Jan 29 06:25:50 2008 From: scott at cvrti.utah.edu (Marshall F. Scott) Date: Tue Jan 29 06:26:36 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate correction suggestions In-Reply-To: <5A18AFD6-7739-48DF-85C0-62A146F26539@gherrity.org> References: <5A18AFD6-7739-48DF-85C0-62A146F26539@gherrity.org> Message-ID: The features you mentioned are functions of the operatin system and application programs and have nothing to do with speech recognition. If you need magnification, try using the features in System Preferences:Universal Access> Marshall On Jan 28, 2008, at 7:09 PM, Michael Gherrity wrote: > I would like to add to this list. I don't understand how a computer, > or program, can use the phrase "universal access "and assume that > the user has perfect vision. For example, the red yellow and green > gumballs on the top menu bar of every window on the Macintosh cannot > be resized for easier viewing. Many fonts that are used by the > Macintosh cannot be resized. I would hope that the new correction > program for MacSpeech would include resizable fonts for all windows. > > mike > > On Jan 23, 2008, at 6:10 PM, > wrote: > >> I've heard you (MacSpeech) want to do correction right in MacSpeech >> Dictate. Well, that's all fine and good but there are number of >> things >> that MacSpeech Dictate correction must have to be considered "done >> right". >> >> * ability to correct dictation wherever you have >> dictated it. >> * ability to select what you want to correct by voice. >> * after you have selected what you want to correct you >> should be able to bring up a correction dialog using >> a keyboard shortcut or a spoken command. >> * correction dialog should have 1-N guesses of what it >> thought you said, where N is a preference setting, >> and should be able to choose a guess by keyboard or >> voice. >> * if none of the guesses in the correction dialog are >> exactly what you said, you should be able edit the >> closest match by voice or keyboard. If by voice you >> should be able to move to beginning or end of phrase >> by speaking a command. If you need to edit a word >> in the phrase you should be able to move the cursor >> left-or-right 1-N characters or words. If you need >> to add a word or correct one in the dialog, you >> should be able to backspace or delete 1-N characters, >> and add characters by spelling them using either >> the international communication alphabet or the >> letter names. >> * once the phrase is corrected you should be able to >> exit the dialog by voice, and be returned to the >> point where you were dictating prior to doing the >> correction. >> >> That seems like a reasonable starting point. If anyone can think of >> anything else, please mention it. >> >> Thanks... >> >> Todd >> _______________________________________________ >> MacVoice mailing list >> MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice > > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice Marshall F. scott University of Utah - CVRTI 95 South 2000 East Salt Lake City, UT 84112 Phone: (801) 587-9523 Fax: (801) 581-3128 E-Mail: scott@cvrti.utah.edU Skype: scott9576a From mike at gherrity.org Tue Jan 29 10:25:39 2008 From: mike at gherrity.org (Michael Gherrity) Date: Tue Jan 29 10:26:03 2008 Subject: [MV] MacSpeech Dictate correction suggestions In-Reply-To: References: <5A18AFD6-7739-48DF-85C0-62A146F26539@gherrity.org> Message-ID: You are wrong. The Macintosh API allows application programs to permit the user to select fonts, but it is up to the application program to use the API. The correction window of MacSpeech's iListen, a speech recognition program, does not allow the user to change the fonts used to display such things as the ten best choices to use to correct the text. I am merely encouraging the MacSpeech developers to use the Macintosh API to allow the user to select fonts in all windows. One of the examples I chose to illustrate this problem was a function of the operating system and that may have caused some confusion. Sorry. mike On Jan 29, 2008, at 6:25 AM, Marshall F. Scott wrote: > The features you mentioned are functions of the operatin system and > application programs and have nothing to do with speech > recognition. If you need magnification, try using the features in > System Preferences:Universal Access> > Marshall > > On Jan 28, 2008, at 7:09 PM, Michael Gherrity wrote: > >> I would like to add to this list. I don't understand how a >> computer, or program, can use the phrase "universal access "and >> assume that the user has perfect vision. For example, the red >> yellow and green gumballs on the top menu bar of every window on >> the Macintosh cannot be resized for easier viewing. Many fonts >> that are used by the Macintosh cannot be resized. I would hope >> that the new correction program for MacSpeech would include >> resizable fonts for all windows. >> >> mike >> >> On Jan 23, 2008, at 6:10 PM, >> wrote: >> >>> I've heard you (MacSpeech) want to do correction right in MacSpeech >>> Dictate. Well, that's all fine and good but there are number of >>> things >>> that MacSpeech Dictate correction must have to be considered "done >>> right". >>> >>> * ability to correct dictation wherever you have >>> dictated it. >>> * ability to select what you want to correct by voice. >>> * after you have selected what you want to correct you >>> should be able to bring up a correction dialog using >>> a keyboard shortcut or a spoken command. >>> * correction dialog should have 1-N guesses of what it >>> thought you said, where N is a preference setting, >>> and should be able to choose a guess by keyboard or >>> voice. >>> * if none of the guesses in the correction dialog are >>> exactly what you said, you should be able edit the >>> closest match by voice or keyboard. If by voice you >>> should be able to move to beginning or end of phrase >>> by speaking a command. If you need to edit a word >>> in the phrase you should be able to move the cursor >>> left-or-right 1-N characters or words. If you need >>> to add a word or correct one in the dialog, you >>> should be able to backspace or delete 1-N characters, >>> and add characters by spelling them using either >>> the international communication alphabet or the >>> letter names. >>> * once the phrase is corrected you should be able to >>> exit the dialog by voice, and be returned to the >>> point where you were dictating prior to doing the >>> correction. >>> >>> That seems like a reasonable starting point. If anyone can think of >>> anything else, please mention it. >>> >>> Thanks... >>> >>> Todd >>> _______________________________________________ >>> MacVoice mailing list >>> MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice >> >> _______________________________________________ >> MacVoice mailing list >> MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice > > Marshall F. scott > University of Utah - CVRTI > 95 South 2000 East > Salt Lake City, UT 84112 > Phone: (801) 587-9523 > Fax: (801) 581-3128 > E-Mail: scott@cvrti.utah.edU > Skype: scott9576a > > > > _______________________________________________ > MacVoice mailing list > MacVoice@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice From gibsonm at bigpond.net.au Thu Jan 31 23:58:30 2008 From: gibsonm at bigpond.net.au (Mark Gibson) Date: Thu Jan 31 23:58:50 2008 Subject: [MV] Trying to buy MacSpeech Dictate but no seems to be at home?? Message-ID: Let me apologise in advance if this seems a little OT. However, having lodged a help desk email on 18/1/08 (Ticket ID: 17886-1418011203) and receiving no response to date I attempted to email the sales@macspeech.com address again, asking for an update only to receive another automated response and a new ticket number (Ticket ID: 18684-6631012304) :( I suspect if I don't post here I'll never hear from a human being (since ringing the US from Australia isn't inexpensive). No doubt the response in due course will be "No, you wont be able to take advantage of the Macworld offer as its expired". Here's hoping that's not the case. -- Regards, Mark (}-: +61 (0)4 1927 7198 Skype / AIM / iChat: gibsonm1 ON MATERIALISM He who dies with the most toys, is, nonetheless, still dead.