From jpfreeman at mac.com Sun Mar 5 14:14:22 2006 From: jpfreeman at mac.com (Jim Freeman) Date: Sun Mar 5 17:34:42 2006 Subject: [PB] powerbook buzzing Message-ID: <55E4361C-4744-44D2-95A4-B3C7015D518E@mac.com> My PBG4 is buzzing again. It's about a year old and is under Apple Care. It was buzzing pretty badly prior to the hard drive crashing a few months ago. I took it to an authorized apple repair place and they replaced the hard drive. They said the buzzing was the hard drive starting to fail. Now it's only been a couple of months and I've got the same buzzing again. When I lift the computer and turn it at a particular angle, there is a buzzing sound like a fast moving part rubbing somewhere. Am I just unlucky, with two hard drives failing in a row? or is the hard drive failure a symptom of something else? I can call Apple care or my repair people and ask them, but maybe someone on this list has some useful knowledge in this regard. The buzzing is still pretty slight and not nearly as bad as it was when I lost the HD, so I'm not in a hurry to hand it over to the repair people for a week. Yes, I have a good backup routine. Thanks, Jim Powerbook G4 12" 1.33 GHz OS X 10.4.4 768 MB Ram 80 Gig HD -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/powerbook/attachments/20060305/2e276fa5/attachment.html From marco.bergamelli at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 01:52:56 2006 From: marco.bergamelli at gmail.com (Marco) Date: Mon Mar 6 01:50:25 2006 Subject: [PB] powerbook buzzing In-Reply-To: <55E4361C-4744-44D2-95A4-B3C7015D518E@mac.com> References: <55E4361C-4744-44D2-95A4-B3C7015D518E@mac.com> Message-ID: <593CF4D8-2395-472E-BFBE-B8095B25DC26@gmail.com> Gosh...I'm currently experiencing your very same problem! Turnig the ibook at a particular angle makes it makesa medium-pitched buzzing sound... If it's not the hd failing, then it'll be the cooling fan. Or..at least, it's what I fondly hope! Please, please help me! On Mar 5, 2006, at 11:14 PM, Jim Freeman wrote: > My PBG4 is buzzing again. It's about a year old and is under Apple > Care. It was buzzing pretty badly prior to the hard drive crashing > a few months ago. I took it to an authorized apple repair place and > they replaced the hard drive. They said the buzzing was the hard > drive starting to fail. Now it's only been a couple of months and > I've got the same buzzing again. When I lift the computer and turn > it at a particular angle, there is a buzzing sound like a fast > moving part rubbing somewhere. > > Am I just unlucky, with two hard drives failing in a row? or is the > hard drive failure a symptom of something else? > > I can call Apple care or my repair people and ask them, but maybe > someone on this list has some useful knowledge in this regard. > > The buzzing is still pretty slight and not nearly as bad as it was > when I lost the HD, so I'm not in a hurry to hand it over to the > repair people for a week. Yes, I have a good backup routine. > > Thanks, > > Jim > > > > Powerbook G4 12" 1.33 GHz > OS X 10.4.4 > 768 MB Ram > 80 Gig HD > > > _______________________________________________ > PowerBook mailing list > PowerBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/powerbook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random > stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 From pkrug at mac.com Mon Mar 6 07:33:38 2006 From: pkrug at mac.com (Peter Krug) Date: Mon Mar 6 07:33:52 2006 Subject: [PB] Wireless Interference Message-ID: <08ED006A-68A3-4836-8B81-C64A1EB7E896@mac.com> We have an Airport Extreme base station that my wife and I connect our powerbooks (a 1.25 GHz Aluminum 15-inch and a 1 GHz 17-inch) to the internets with. My problem is that when I am online, she loses the ability to connect to the base station. This mostly happens when I am between her and the base station. If I am on the other side of the base station from her, it is not as much of a problem. I have tried changing the network channel, messing around with the interference robustness, etc, with no effect. I didn't think I could absorb all of the base station's packets 8^D. Any ideas about how to resolve this issue (besides the obvious rearranging of our work spaces). TIA. Peter A little computer haiku: I can't remember the last time I restarted I love OS X This message sent with Mail.app 2.0.5 on Mac OS X 10.4.5 pkrug@mac.com From David.Lambourn at blueyonder.co.uk Mon Mar 6 08:22:15 2006 From: David.Lambourn at blueyonder.co.uk (David Lambourn) Date: Mon Mar 6 08:22:27 2006 Subject: [PB] Wireless Interference In-Reply-To: <08ED006A-68A3-4836-8B81-C64A1EB7E896@mac.com> References: <08ED006A-68A3-4836-8B81-C64A1EB7E896@mac.com> Message-ID: <227A202F-437A-4785-A5D9-80469AFA8224@blueyonder.co.uk> Peter, I'm guessing that one of you is a musician? If so, you might consider simply adding an Airport Express to your system - using it as a form of repeater you can extend the radio coverage, it might even be possible to so site it that it offers the possibility of playing music from the PowerBook(s) through your Hi-fi. David PS. I'm not sufficient of a boffin to suggest anything else, other than adding an antenna to the Base Station if you have one with that facility. On 6 Mar 2006, at 15:33, Peter Krug wrote: We have an Airport Extreme base station that my wife and I connect our powerbooks (a 1.25 GHz Aluminum 15-inch and a 1 GHz 17-inch) to the internets with. My problem is that when I am online, she loses the ability to connect to the base station. This mostly happens when I am between her and the base station. If I am on the other side of the base station from her, it is not as much of a problem. I have tried changing the network channel, messing around with the interference robustness, etc, with no effect. I didn't think I could absorb all of the base station's packets 8^D. Any ideas about how to resolve this issue (besides the obvious rearranging of our work spaces). TIA. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/powerbook/attachments/20060306/c40a2a24/attachment.html From ross.winn at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 08:35:36 2006 From: ross.winn at gmail.com (Ross Winn) Date: Mon Mar 6 08:36:09 2006 Subject: [PB] Wireless Interference In-Reply-To: <227A202F-437A-4785-A5D9-80469AFA8224@blueyonder.co.uk> References: <08ED006A-68A3-4836-8B81-C64A1EB7E896@mac.com> <227A202F-437A-4785-A5D9-80469AFA8224@blueyonder.co.uk> Message-ID: <5b0a00340603060835v2b53907g60b91213e1ff8258@mail.gmail.com> it sounds like you are configured incorrectly. Are you running wide open, or do you use a password? On 3/6/06, David Lambourn wrote: > Peter, > > I'm guessing that one of you is a musician? If so, you might consider > simply adding an Airport Express to your system - using it as a form of > repeater you can extend the radio coverage, it might even be possible to so > site it that it offers the possibility of playing music from the > PowerBook(s) through your Hi-fi. > > David > > PS. I'm not sufficient of a boffin to suggest anything else, other than > adding an antenna to the Base Station if you have one with that facility. > > > > On 6 Mar 2006, at 15:33, Peter Krug wrote: > We have an Airport Extreme base station that my wife and I connect our > powerbooks (a 1.25 GHz Aluminum 15-inch and a 1 GHz 17-inch) to the > internets with. My problem is that when I am online, she loses the ability > to connect to the base station. This mostly happens when I am between her > and the base station. If I am on the other side of the base station from > her, it is not as much of a problem. > > I have tried changing the network channel, messing around with the > interference robustness, etc, with no effect. I didn't think I could absorb > all of the base station's packets 8^D. Any ideas about how to resolve this > issue (besides the obvious rearranging of our work spaces). TIA. > > _______________________________________________ > PowerBook mailing list > PowerBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/powerbook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 > > -- ross.winn@gmail.com From pkrug at mac.com Mon Mar 6 10:52:47 2006 From: pkrug at mac.com (Peter Krug) Date: Mon Mar 6 10:53:00 2006 Subject: [PB] Wireless Interference In-Reply-To: <5b0a00340603060835v2b53907g60b91213e1ff8258@mail.gmail.com> References: <08ED006A-68A3-4836-8B81-C64A1EB7E896@mac.com> <227A202F-437A-4785-A5D9-80469AFA8224@blueyonder.co.uk> <5b0a00340603060835v2b53907g60b91213e1ff8258@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <17FAC995-377A-4712-86C9-32E80C07CB37@mac.com> On Mar 6, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Ross Winn wrote: > it sounds like you are configured incorrectly. Are you running wide > open, or do you use a password? > Our base station is running b/g, with 128-bit WEP. No radius or anything to restrict computers. If my Powerbook is sleeping, she has no problem accessing the network. But if my computer is connected to the internets via the base station and her computer is next to mine, even within a few feet of the base station, she cannot surf. At these times, she might have a couple of bars of signal strength, but websites do not resolve. When I shut off, she moves to 4 bars of strength and everything is hunky-dory for her, implying that she is configured correctly. I might try WPA, but my son has a rev A iBook that doesn't support WPA, so it would just be an experiment. Thanks, Peter A little computer haiku: I can't remember the last time I restarted I love OS X This message sent with Mail.app 2.0.7 on Mac OS X 10.4.5 pkrug@mac.com From ross.winn at gmail.com Mon Mar 6 11:04:19 2006 From: ross.winn at gmail.com (Ross Winn) Date: Mon Mar 6 11:04:27 2006 Subject: [PB] Wireless Interference In-Reply-To: <17FAC995-377A-4712-86C9-32E80C07CB37@mac.com> References: <08ED006A-68A3-4836-8B81-C64A1EB7E896@mac.com> <227A202F-437A-4785-A5D9-80469AFA8224@blueyonder.co.uk> <5b0a00340603060835v2b53907g60b91213e1ff8258@mail.gmail.com> <17FAC995-377A-4712-86C9-32E80C07CB37@mac.com> Message-ID: <5b0a00340603061104j1a2ffe45o7ad78f2096bc685e@mail.gmail.com> I think you may want to try the same thing if both of you are at least ten feet from the base station. Have you done an apple knowledgebase search? From groups at pursued-with.net Mon Mar 6 11:20:26 2006 From: groups at pursued-with.net (Kevin Stevens) Date: Mon Mar 6 11:20:34 2006 Subject: [PB] Wireless Interference In-Reply-To: <17FAC995-377A-4712-86C9-32E80C07CB37@mac.com> References: <08ED006A-68A3-4836-8B81-C64A1EB7E896@mac.com> <227A202F-437A-4785-A5D9-80469AFA8224@blueyonder.co.uk> <5b0a00340603060835v2b53907g60b91213e1ff8258@mail.gmail.com> <17FAC995-377A-4712-86C9-32E80C07CB37@mac.com> Message-ID: <43234.192.85.47.1.1141672826.squirrel@www.kevinstevens.info> > Our base station is running b/g, with 128-bit WEP. No radius or > anything to restrict computers. If my Powerbook is sleeping, she has > no problem accessing the network. But if my computer is connected to > the internets via the base station and her computer is next to mine, > even within a few feet of the base station, she cannot surf. At > these times, she might have a couple of bars of signal strength, but > websites do not resolve. When I shut off, she moves to 4 bars of > strength and everything is hunky-dory for her, implying that she is > configured correctly. Two things: - Check to see that her machine is in fact associating to the access point rather than creating a computer-to-computer (adhoc) association to YOUR computer. If her machine has a preferred network association to your computer, it could fall back to the access point when yours was off, and work fine, but when yours comes on, hers will re-associate to yours. Unless you have internet sharing set up on your computer, she won't be able to reach the internet that way. - If both computers are associated to the access point, check to be sure that both don't have the same IP address assigned. That could also cause the symptoms you report. The whole WPA/WEP issue shouldn't be the problem if the machine actually shows as being associated and connected to a wireless network. If you're getting that far, the encryption and password are set up and working. KeS From cantab at comcast.net Mon Mar 6 13:19:12 2006 From: cantab at comcast.net (Michael J. Amato) Date: Mon Mar 6 13:19:21 2006 Subject: [PB] Wireless Interference In-Reply-To: <17FAC995-377A-4712-86C9-32E80C07CB37@mac.com> Message-ID: > > On Mar 6, 2006, at 11:35 AM, Ross Winn wrote: > >> it sounds like you are configured incorrectly. Are you running wide >> open, or do you use a password? >> > > Our base station is running b/g, with 128-bit WEP. No radius or > anything to restrict computers. If my Powerbook is sleeping, she has > no problem accessing the network. But if my computer is connected to > the internets via the base station and her computer is next to mine, > even within a few feet of the base station, she cannot surf. At > these times, she might have a couple of bars of signal strength, but > websites do not resolve. When I shut off, she moves to 4 bars of > strength and everything is hunky-dory for her, implying that she is > configured correctly. > > I might try WPA, but my son has a rev A iBook that doesn't support > WPA, so it would just be an experiment. > > Thanks, > > Peter > > A little computer haiku: > I can't remember > the last time I restarted > I love OS X > > This message sent with Mail.app 2.0.7 on Mac OS X 10.4.5 > pkrug@mac.com > > > _______________________________________________ > PowerBook mailing list > PowerBook@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/powerbook > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 Do you have a wireless phone? They operate at 2.4, same as the router and may interfere. ========================= Mike Amato mailto:cantab@comcast.net From ross.winn at gmail.com Tue Mar 7 09:11:45 2006 From: ross.winn at gmail.com (Ross Winn) Date: Tue Mar 7 09:11:52 2006 Subject: [PB] Wireless Interference In-Reply-To: <08ED006A-68A3-4836-8B81-C64A1EB7E896@mac.com> References: <08ED006A-68A3-4836-8B81-C64A1EB7E896@mac.com> Message-ID: <5b0a00340603070911x79281b7dsb799b09f945736d2@mail.gmail.com> Airport troubleshooting guide... http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106858 From pkrug at mac.com Tue Mar 7 09:28:34 2006 From: pkrug at mac.com (Peter Krug) Date: Tue Mar 7 09:28:47 2006 Subject: [PB] Wireless Interference In-Reply-To: <08ED006A-68A3-4836-8B81-C64A1EB7E896@mac.com> References: <08ED006A-68A3-4836-8B81-C64A1EB7E896@mac.com> Message-ID: <4F3C71F1-7CFF-464A-A476-0F7C0080F1BF@mac.com> Thanks to everyone that posted suggestions. Mike Amato's question about wireless phones reminded me about the baby monitor. I did a pretty exhaustive set of experiments with the baby monitor's channels and the base station's channels and found that no matter where we were in the house and no matter what the channel settings, if the baby monitor and my wife's powerbook were in the same room, no connection for her, but my Rev. A LunchTray was fine. Chalk it up to those extra 2 inches of aluminum absorbing the interference? Interestingly, if we are in the path of the baby monitor but right next to the base station, I have fine connection when both powerbooks are up, but she does not connect. If I close my Powerbook, she magically becomes able to join the network. I wonder if my Bluetooth is interfering, too. Hmmmmmm..... Thanks, Peter A little computer haiku: I can't remember the last time I restarted I love OS X This message sent with Mail.app 2.0.7 on Mac OS X 10.4.5 pkrug@mac.com From stevehart at usadatanet.net Sat Mar 11 07:08:56 2006 From: stevehart at usadatanet.net (steve hart) Date: Sat Mar 11 07:14:10 2006 Subject: [PB] parts Message-ID: <000a01c6451d$b8d19970$071cda42@stevepimuni411> anyone in need of parts, power supplys etc. for older powerbooks i have a bunch and cheap. i have working and nonworking powerbooks as well. e-mail me what your looking for and i may have it. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/powerbook/attachments/20060311/4138a555/attachment.html