On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 12:43:09AM -0600, Chris Olson wrote: > Mark C. Langston wrote: > > > Oh, yeah. You mean the exact same sticker that is put on all the > > notebooks and desktops. I'm sure those circuit traces were all aligned > > _just_so_ to ensure maximum Windows performance. > > Darn straight. Try to put linux in the laptop that says that on it. > That little sticker is no marketing gimmick, it's a warning label. Been doing it for years. With FreeBSD and OpenBSD too. Let's see here...within arm's reach: A Vaio 505GX that has run both, as well as a Libretto 50ct that's run both, and is currently running OpenBSD. They both came with those stickers. In fact, I think the Vaio came with two. I've also managed to run these OSes on Amigas and Mac II's. I'm supposed to gather what, from this exercise, exactly? In fact, the last notebook I bought that had that sticker on it -- a Dell Inspiron 8000 -- ran Linux, FreeBSD, and OpenBSD extremely well. Much better than it ever ran Windows. Even better, once I'd actually recompiled the kernels and tuned the OSes for the fact that they were running on notebooks, and for the uses I put the OSes to. And the Inspiron had two stickers as well: Designed for Windows NT, and Designed for Windows ME. So you're telling me that a single architecture, which you claim has been optimized for "Windows" is now optimized for two wildly differing codebases (NT and ME)? Perhaps Microsoft has managed to perfect time travel, and have in fact been tricking us into buying hyperintelligent quantum computers all these years, that know what you're trying to do, and only work well when being used with Windows. Speaking anecdotally, of course. You see, you claim one thing, I claim another. That's the problem with anecdotal evidence. However, you're presenting your anecdotal evidence as though it bore the weight of truth. That demands supporting evidence, which you've yet to produce. Your amusement value is running thin; you're approaching the point where you're a petulant child, demanding that things be "just so", for no reason other than that you so demand. And that's just plain irritating. I've run into your brand of Linux bigotry, while being up in front of crowds, such as those at LUGs or professional conferences. You're no better than the Windows bigots, or the Mac bigots -- your mind is so closed, you're so wrapped up in this fantasy that you've woven for yourself, you've become inured to any form of reason. To paraphrase a certain pop cultural referent: You are not your OS. Get over it. -- Mark C. Langston Sr. Unix SysAdmin mark at bitshift.org mark at seti.org Systems & Network Admin SETI Institute http://bitshift.org http://www.seti.org