Folks, Previously we had discussed problems with the 17 inch powerbooks, 10.2.6, and kernel panics when inserting PCMCIA memory card adapter/readers. Long story short, after a reinstall of 10.2.6 from scratch, I have determined that it's not the Mac OS. With only Apple applications installed, the PCMCIA card memory adapters/readers work fine. But, after installing Microsoft Office v.X, I'm back to kernel panics. Has anyone else been able to solve this problem? Also, another semi-weird event is the spin up of all my attached firewire drives before IE 5.2.2 will even show me a window that isn't grayed out. Any ideas why? Lee Lee Wilmeth, Computer Consultant 1104 Cypress CT Mansfield, TX 76063-2608 817-905-9078 iChat or AIM ID leewilmeth at mac.com www.wilmeth.net