According to Steve Wozniak: > >I've also had problems with services recently (10.2.3). All services >would disappear for Carbon apps (but appear for Cocoa apps). I had >to play around with my two user-installed services, Word Services >and TextsoapService. I found that I could drag the service files >into and out of my services folder ([Home]/Library/Services) and >sometimes the problem would go away, until a logout or restart. > >I now have TextsoapService out of my services folder and all my >[other] services appear for Carbon apps, as they should. > >The TextSOAP features are still available within Eudora via the >Edit-->Message Plug-Ins menuitem, and within BBEdit as a floating >menu, even though they are no longer in the [App name]-->Services >menuitems. >-- > >Regards, > >Steve (is tv wake zone?) Thanks Steve, I've moved things around, and have a 'limited' version of BBEdit 'services', but not like before. It wasn't Ittec, or AliasMenu causing conflicts, which was good news. I moved them all of the way out, and restarted, no change. I did move BBEdit and MoosePad to the first Apps folder [against my wishes, I might add] and they appear there, albeit, with BBEdit 'services' in a severely truncated version of their former self. All I see in the BBEdit 'Services' menu is Open File and Open Selection, both of which I can do by right-clicking, anyway. I DO, however, have 6 items under Net Services, 4 of which relate to ordering books of photos [very handy, that]...and as a firm believer in giving credit where it's due and i would like to congratulate the 9-yr old responsible for that. I love the Mac, and the OS, but I liked the 128s and 512s too, and part of the Mac 'thing' is we get to 'have it our way', you know, like a big giant electronic Wendy's hamburger. Or was it Burger King? Anyway, I mention my love for the platform for the benefit of those who genuflect before raising a hint of complaint that could be misconstrued as criticism of Apple. [Same people who adopt that 'reverential' meekness, and 'silence' whilst in Banks,I'd imagine]... The point being if 'tweaking' the system for enhanced productivity works in the OS, and an update comes along [what? 4 updates in?] and wrecks that... whose fault is that? The developers and 3rd-party code-writers are busting their ass to stay relevant,or ahead of the curve, before they get 'absorbed' (like SoundJam) or driven to the brink of bankruptcy, and then Apple makes all this 'noise' about how they've hit a 'homer' and the developers should 'get with the program'. So, which is it over there in the Valley? To be fair Apple does a great thing. Problems with competition, outsiders, etc, isn't new,or confined to Apple. I was at HP [over on California Ave, in Stanford Industrial Park] back in 77-78, and we had the same issues. Plus ça change... ~flipper