It seems that my LunchTrayDeluxe is no longer the only 17-inch portable on the block: http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/pc/pc_cf_prodChassis.jsp?BV_SessionID=@@@@1537960166.1057078350@@@@&BV_EngineID=cccfadcijmhmkifcgfkceghdgngdgli.0&comm=ST&plin=Portables&pfam=Satellite&pmod=P25 That's one hell of a URL. For $1k less ($2179), you get almost the same specs as the 17-inch G4 PB. No Gigabit Ethernet, 802.11a instead of g, the ability to put 2 GB RAM inside, 4 USB 2.0 ports, 40 fewer pixels in width, 32 MB less on the video card, No bluetooth, SD slot instead of PC card slot, no FW 800, whatever a 1-FIR port is, a 2.8 GHz P4 (not M?), 800 MHz bus and Windows XP Pro. Plus a strange case (is it really as thick as the picture implies) and a horrible website to buy it from. Maybe Apple will fill the void here with a new machine (as the 1 GHz 15-inchers are now 7-10 days backordered?) Peter -- A little computer haiku: I can't remember the last time I restarted I love OS X This message sent with Eudora 6.0b24 on Mac OS X 10.2.6