I agree with a previous post - Please don't let one thread eliminate you from the list. I treat this list like that great American wasteland television (not that this list is a wasteland). When I find an uninteresting or offensive thread I ignore it and move on. Freedom of speech is a gift, but we have the blessing of the freedom to ignore the speech too. Much of the time this list is helpful, informative, and we share the same boat, our love/hate relationship with Apple and our love/hate relationship with our PowerBooks and Macs. Joe