Yes, it does. Some clarification on all the wonderful things added to 10.3's implementation of HFS+. When the computer is about to perform an operation on the disk, it first writes what it's going to do to the journal, then marks the journal entry complete, then performs the task, then deletes the journal entry. When 10.3 or later (or anything else that supports the journal) mounts a drive, it looks in the journal; if there are any entries, and they are marked complete, it performs the task in the journal. If there are entries but they are not marked complete, they are ignored. It's slightly slower to write something to disk, but startup is generally a fair amount faster (especially after a crash) since the startup disk doesn't have to be checked for consistency. Something else that is kept track of is the "temperature" of each file. The files that are used most often get moved to a special place on the disk, and are automatically defragmented as part of this process. This space on the disk is allocated such that it is generally the part of the disk that is read at the greatest speed. There are a number of limitations on what can be considered a hot file; it must be small, frequently read, and never written to, for example. The hottest files are the ones that are read the most times - technically, it's the number of bytes read divided by the size of the file. Additionally, there is also some defragmentation going on in the background. If a file is read with more than 8 extents (fragments), then it is eligible to be defragmented, but only if it is also under 20 MB, and there is enough free space available to defragment it. If this turns out to be true, the file is copied to another location on the disk, and then is deleted from its original location. Anyway, the bottom line is that Journaled HFS+ is something that most people should be using; the only people that should really consider turning it off are people who are not worried about data integrity, and require peak performance. Generally, this means that only drives that are ONLY used for digital video should have it turned off; if you don't have a drive just for your digital video, then you probably don't use DV enough to justify turning it off anyway. I can't really think of any other situation where it would be better to be left off. Writing to the disk slows down by about 10% or so; so little of your computer's time is spent writing that turning it off won't make much of a difference, except for making reboots after a crash take much, much longer. You can tell if you have Journalling enabled by either doing a Get Info on your hard drive, or by opening Disk Utility. DU will also allow you to enable or disable Journalling (which includes the other features mentioned above) as you see fit. No reformat is necessary, and a Journaled HFS+ drive can be used under an OS that doesn't know about Journalling; the older OS just doesn't take advantage of Journalling's features. I believe that 10.3 automatically turned on Journalling, after 10.2.2 or so initially added support for it. In case anybody is feeling sadistic, you can read enough about all of these things and more to make your very own disk utility at: http://developer.apple.com/technotes/tn/tn1150.html Be sure to read the summary at the bottom. ;-) On Aug 5, 2004, at 10:53 AM, silvo conticello wrote: > I think that journaling in Panther includes also some file > defragmentation on the fly. Or am I mistaken?