[Ti] 1st Gen. 17" v. SACD CD layer

[Steve Martin]

I have a 15" PowerBook with an MCE branded Matshita UJ-815A that reads 
SACD just fine (as normal CD that is).  I wonder if it is just a 
firmware thing.

On Feb 10, 2004, at 2:05 PM, Dave Morrison wrote:

>>
>> From: Peter Krug <pkrug at mac.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Ti] 1st Gen. 17" v. SACD CD layer
>
> Peter wrote:
>
>> Dave,
>>
>> Can you hook up an external CD burner and see if it plays from that
>> device?
>
> Yep, plays from my LaCie external DVD writer via Firewire into the 17".
>
>>   If it can, then it is a hardware limitation of the internal
>> drive.
>
> You got that right. It's the darn Matshita UJ-815 drive that can't see 
> these discs. The model installed in the Rev.B 17" is UJ-816. I asked 
> AppleCare if they'd be willing to swap the drive itself. They said 
> "Sure, but you'll have to pay for the drive". Kinda makes me wonder 
> why I bought AppleCare again.
>
>>   Maybe this is a firmware issue?
>
> I asked about this the first time I reported it back in Nov. of '03. 
> They didn't know of any updates then and didn't again last night. The 
> 2nd level engineer/tech got really frustrated with me and acted like I 
> was keeping him from going home....which I was!  I'm surprised he 
> didn't suggest that I go back and get that Pismo that WOULD play my 
> discs!!!! (naaaahhhhh)
>
>>   You didn't by chance flash
>> the firmware so that you could burn DVD's at 2X?
>
> No, but I've seen the site you are referring to. I'm not even wanting 
> to make the drive "Region-free"....couldn't care less about that.  All 
> I want is the same functionality as a cheap boombox. I'm buying a lot 
> of these hybrid discs and I can't use them unless I take Steve 
> Martin's advice and rip another CD from the Redbook layer. I agree 
> Steve, "Fair Use" if I've EVER seen it! Still a pain the butt, though.
>
>>
>> If it doesn't play on the external, maybe hook the external up to a
>> computer that does play it from the internal drive.  If it plays in
>> the external on the other computer, maybe you have a software issue.
>
> When I took a couple of these discs to the local Apple store to do my 
> initial test of newer units, the salesguy wanted to know what I was 
> doing. When I explained, he suggested that all I probably needed to do 
> was upgrade to Panther. I was going to do this anyway, but "hope 
> springs eternal" and it (obviously) didn't help.
>>
>> I'm curious about this one since I have a Rev.A Lunchtray (Deluxe) 
>> myself.
>
> My condolences. Don't get me wrong...I love this thing....it's 
> beautiful.....but this issue is pi**ing me off.
>
> Just don't buy any discs that MIGHT be SACD's or you'll be out of luck 
> too. Oddly enough, when the Stones catalog was remastered and 
> rereleased on SACD's, there was nothing on the outside of the 
> packaging that would let you know that it was anything other than a 
> standard CD. Pink Floyd's "Dark Side of the Moon" was a little more 
> obvious in its format
>
> On a slightly different note (and maybe as a way of salvaging this 
> whole high-res audio playback dilemma), does anybody know of a 
> DVD-Audio player for the Mac? I have a Echo Indigo audio card that 
> will decode 24/96 audio but there doesn't seem to be a player that 
> will grab this audio stream. I can play back the other audio streams 
> on the DVD-A's such as the Dolby track, but I wouldn't call that 
> "high-res", IYKWIM.
>>
>> Peter
>
> Good luck Peter,
> Dave
>
>
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