Where did you get the memory for your machine? Newer Mac OS X versions are more sensitive to marginal memory than older versions (and Mac OS 9). Most problems can be traced to memory that is slightly out-of-spec, something that is actually very common to discount memory distributors. If you have the hardware test CD, try running that. on 1/25/04 12:36 PM, Terry Houle at houle at citilink.com wrote: > I think Panther was released before its time. Have constant crashes > with Apple Mail and my machine no longer goes to sleep by itself. Keep > getting bad kernel issues and then do I want to notify Apple. Yes I > have several things to say to Apple. > > Has not really been worth it. > > A Swithcher. -- Glenn L. Austin <>< Computer Wizard and Race Car Driver <glenn at austin-home.com> <http://www.austin-home.com/glenn/>