I spent 8 hours yesterday, trying to figure out why iTunes would crash before launching (not even running enough routines to make it into the Crashreporter, 9 times out of 10), whenever ANY prefernce was changed in the app. At first I thought it was just the iTunes pref, itself. Trashing it results in iTunes launching, but at the initial start-up screen. (welcome to iTunes, with all of the "Agree/Disagree, and pre-1st-time-Launch questions). But I would go through that procedure, and proceeed to set the columns, choose 'Not to show Store", etc, close the app, and it would crash again on startup. I checked iTunes in another user account on the mac, and it was fine... for a few hours. Meaning, it launched. Later, I realized that if I changed the prefs on the other account's iTunes, it, too, would crash on its next launch. Same goes for the rarely-used root-enabled account. The mac has been dodgy, beyond belief, since using Apple's Software Update to move up to 10.2.8. I am all the way fed up. iTunes is a terrific app, and i suppose I can 'make do' with leaving the prefs where they are. But, does that seem reasonable, to anyone? I can't even 'decide' to have the columns display, let's say, Track #, unless I want to be greeted by a crash-on-launch (the next time), followed by a return to the Prefs folder, and a subsequent resetup of the entire app. That is absurd. I have no CDROM reader/writer, and won't, for another 7 or 8 weeks, so going back to 10.2 and reloading the updaters to 10.2.6 is not an option currently. In the process of trying to eliminate the offending prefs, at one point yesterday, i trashed nearly every non-Apple app, and its prefs. And a lot of Apple apps, also, like Final Cut Pro, Compressor, keynote, etc. iTunes runs like a champ in OS 9, i am shocked, and dismayed. below is a 'blurb' that appears constantly, in Console, also new since the 10.2.8 update: *** malloc[441]: Deallocation of a pointer not malloced: 0xffffffff; This could be a double free(), or free() called with the middle of an allocated block; Try setting environment variable MallocHelp to see tools to help debug Process # 441, of course, is the damned WindowManager, easily the weakest link in Aqua. ~flipper