Hi, Not sure what is going on here. Put Panther on a 15" Al yesterday and after reboot, software update ran and I installed 10.3.3. Rebooted, software update ran and now listed QuickTime 6.5 and Java 1.4.2. The Quicktime installed fine but Java came up with an error about the target drive needing to be at least 10.3.1 before the install could proceed. Any ideas? -- Regards, Mark (}-: AIM / iChat: gibsonm1 Remember that whatever misfortune may be your lot, it could only be worse in Cleveland. -- Unknown