From arne.hulstein at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 00:10:57 2008 From: arne.hulstein at gmail.com (Arne Hulstein) Date: Tue Apr 1 00:11:25 2008 Subject: [Ti] Screen has gone blank In-Reply-To: <5312b4210803311418k3a361031w154feb1e6c60d068@mail.gmail.com> References: <5312b4210803310118x2639b438v4059571335d938a0@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210803311418k3a361031w154feb1e6c60d068@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <5312b4210804010010k6eb73c5ew326ccf3d674c3e7b@mail.gmail.com> Ok, that has been done. I haven't won, so I have time to sort other things now. ;-) Anyway, I looked at the screen and when it is dark I can see the actual image slightly through a white bar in the screen in the top 30%. The rest of the screen remains black... Could that still be that inverter board? Thanks, Arne On Mon, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Arne Hulstein wrote: > Thanks for your answers everyone. I am going to try the trick with the > light. But I can't do that right now as I am now waiting for the results for > the voting on Meetial.com. I hope to get this new startup off the ground > and could use a legup to get to The Next Web conference in Amsterdam (yes, > I'm in the Netherlands) so the coming hour will be crucial for me. > Refreshing pitchstorm.tv for votes every second now... ;-) > > Arne > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/titanium/attachments/20080401/e4b7b58f/attachment.html From digital.discuss at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 09:37:14 2008 From: digital.discuss at gmail.com (MB) Date: Tue Apr 1 07:38:31 2008 Subject: [Ti] Screen has gone blank In-Reply-To: <5312b4210804010010k6eb73c5ew326ccf3d674c3e7b@mail.gmail.com> References: <5312b4210803310118x2639b438v4059571335d938a0@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210803311418k3a361031w154feb1e6c60d068@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210804010010k6eb73c5ew326ccf3d674c3e7b@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080401163714.350500551@mail.messagingengine.com> Arne Hulstein said: >Anyway, I looked at the screen and when it is dark I can see the actual >image slightly through a white bar in the screen in the top 30%. The >rest of the screen remains black... Could that still be that inverter board? > Well, the off backlighting is most likely the inverter board, but if you're sure you don't see anything in the bottom of the display - please make sure you have something there you know how it looks - then it's possible that the display itself could have been damaged AND/OR that your display cables have been damaged. Where is the white during startup? Is it the same upper 30% partial or the whole screen? When you look with a bright light, does the part you see looks like it should or is it warped somehow? Only way to know for sure is to try with another inverter board or move the display itself to another known working titanium machine, if the display is likely to be working. If it's worth the effort is up to you, but I can give you advice from the experience I have had with this type of problem if you need it. As I've had 3 boards or so that needed replacement it does seem like a typical Titanium problem, at least with the second generation. From TrevorHutley at consultant.com Tue Apr 1 09:12:27 2008 From: TrevorHutley at consultant.com (Dr. Trevor J. Hutley) Date: Tue Apr 1 10:12:05 2008 Subject: [Ti] System extension cannot be used Message-ID: <3FD21A21-5DB9-4543-AE35-FEA88E4D0E94@consultant.com> "The system extension System/Library/extensions/System.kext/Plugins/ Mach.kext was installed improperly and cannot be used. Please try reinstalling it....." I just got the above message on my 15" G4 aluminium Powerbook (10.5.2). Has anyone ever seen this before ? How can one reinstall this Mach.kext ?? Trevor From tarik at opalblue.com Tue Apr 1 10:25:48 2008 From: tarik at opalblue.com (Tarik Bilgin) Date: Tue Apr 1 10:26:57 2008 Subject: [Ti] System extension cannot be used In-Reply-To: <3FD21A21-5DB9-4543-AE35-FEA88E4D0E94@consultant.com> References: <3FD21A21-5DB9-4543-AE35-FEA88E4D0E94@consultant.com> Message-ID: <47F2701C.4080405@opalblue.com> Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: > "The system extension > System/Library/extensions/System.kext/Plugins/Mach.kext was installed > improperly and cannot be used. Please try reinstalling it....." Mach.kext is part of the Core OS. If you play with it, make sure to keep a backup of the old version. I could be wrong but i think this file only gets updated with system patches / installs. Curious indeed. Other than getting the message do you get any issues? -- Tarik From digital.discuss at gmail.com Tue Apr 1 15:31:16 2008 From: digital.discuss at gmail.com (MB) Date: Tue Apr 1 13:32:01 2008 Subject: [Ti] System extension cannot be used In-Reply-To: <47F2701C.4080405@opalblue.com> References: <3FD21A21-5DB9-4543-AE35-FEA88E4D0E94@consultant.com> <47F2701C.4080405@opalblue.com> Message-ID: <20080401223116.296555335@mail.messagingengine.com> Tarik Bilgin said: >Mach.kext is part of the Core OS. If you play with it, make sure to keep >a backup of the old version. I could be wrong but i think this file only >gets updated with system patches / installs. What about Pacifist ? It has worked great for me in situations like this with Panther and Tiger. I haven't tried it under Leopard, but I wouldn't hesitate doing that. From TrevorHutley at consultant.com Wed Apr 16 23:17:24 2008 From: TrevorHutley at consultant.com (Dr. Trevor J. Hutley) Date: Wed Apr 16 23:17:41 2008 Subject: [Ti] business card readers Message-ID: <1C56B9A2-4938-42A0-BA23-4133484341FF@consultant.com> I would like to get a reader for business cards that I can use with my aluminium G4 Powerbook, running 10.5.2. Ideally, I would like to scan / read a business card, so that the data / information can go in to my Address Book. From there, with iSync, I can then get the phone numbers in to my Sony-Ericsson W300i. Does anyone have recent experience / recommendations on business card readers / scanners ? I am happy to buy anywhere in the world. Looking forward to your input, regards, Trevor -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/titanium/attachments/20080417/05dee452/attachment.html From ddelmonte at mac.com Thu Apr 17 03:03:36 2008 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David Delmonte) Date: Thu Apr 17 03:03:51 2008 Subject: [Ti] business card readers In-Reply-To: <1C56B9A2-4938-42A0-BA23-4133484341FF@consultant.com> References: <1C56B9A2-4938-42A0-BA23-4133484341FF@consultant.com> Message-ID: <705C0C57-E5E8-421A-A61C-D57E7D987FF5@mac.com> Hello Trevor. I used the iriscard mini. Reall On Apr 17, 2008, at 2:17 AM, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: I would like to get a reader for business cards that I can use with my aluminium G4 Powerbook, running 10.5.2. Ideally, I would like to scan / read a business card, so that the data / information can go in to my Address Book. From there, with iSync, I can then get the phone numbers in to my Sony-Ericsson W300i. Does anyone have recent experience / recommendations on business card readers / scanners ? I am happy to buy anywhere in the world. Looking forward to your input, regards, Trevor _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From ddelmonte at mac.com Thu Apr 17 03:04:30 2008 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David Delmonte) Date: Thu Apr 17 03:15:57 2008 Subject: [Ti] business card readers In-Reply-To: <1C56B9A2-4938-42A0-BA23-4133484341FF@consultant.com> References: <1C56B9A2-4938-42A0-BA23-4133484341FF@consultant.com> Message-ID: Hello Trevor. I used the IrisCard mini. Really terrific and does exactly what you are asking. Took me two days on and off to enter two shoeboxes of cards. A little editing is required in some cards. David On Apr 17, 2008, at 2:17 AM, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: I would like to get a reader for business cards that I can use with my aluminium G4 Powerbook, running 10.5.2. Ideally, I would like to scan / read a business card, so that the data / information can go in to my Address Book. From there, with iSync, I can then get the phone numbers in to my Sony-Ericsson W300i. Does anyone have recent experience / recommendations on business card readers / scanners ? I am happy to buy anywhere in the world. Looking forward to your input, regards, Trevor _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From arne.hulstein at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 03:39:26 2008 From: arne.hulstein at gmail.com (Arne Hulstein) Date: Fri Apr 18 03:39:34 2008 Subject: [Ti] Screen has gone blank In-Reply-To: <20080401163714.350500551@mail.messagingengine.com> References: <5312b4210803310118x2639b438v4059571335d938a0@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210803311418k3a361031w154feb1e6c60d068@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210804010010k6eb73c5ew326ccf3d674c3e7b@mail.gmail.com> <20080401163714.350500551@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <5312b4210804180339g730a683dm1f5e076b7bf63f06@mail.gmail.com> I should have answered this a long time ago, but here it goes. > Well, the off backlighting is most likely the inverter board, but if > you're sure you don't see anything in the bottom of the display - please > make sure you have something there you know how it looks - then it's > possible that the display itself could have been damaged AND/OR that > your display cables have been damaged. Where is the white during > startup? Is it the same upper 30% partial or the whole screen? When you > look with a bright light, does the part you see looks like it should or > is it warped somehow? The part that I see is in the upper 30%. It pretty much looks like it should. As that part emits quite a bit of light, I have not been able to make out much in the lower 60%. The light part seems to only show part of the screen, though I can not confirm it is the exact same part it should show. > Only way to know for sure is to try with another inverter board or move > the display itself to another known working titanium machine, if the > display is likely to be working. Both are a bit of a problem. I don't have another titanium machine and I don't have any spare parts either. > If it's worth the effort is up to you, but I can give you advice from > the experience I have had with this type of problem if you need it. As > I've had 3 boards or so that needed replacement it does seem like a > typical Titanium problem, at least with the second generation. Ok. I am doubting what I should do. It depends on whether I get my new company off the ground as well and whether we can get the investements needed. I might just leave it at this for now and see whether I would accidentally bump into an inverter board. The big screen behind it does work, so it is usable for testing purposes at the moment. Thanks, Arne -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/titanium/attachments/20080418/3b2456cb/attachment.html From strehlow at usermail.com Fri Apr 18 04:29:32 2008 From: strehlow at usermail.com (Scott Strehlow) Date: Fri Apr 18 04:30:34 2008 Subject: [Ti] Screen has gone blank In-Reply-To: <5312b4210804180339g730a683dm1f5e076b7bf63f06@mail.gmail.com> References: <5312b4210803310118x2639b438v4059571335d938a0@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210803311418k3a361031w154feb1e6c60d068@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210804010010k6eb73c5ew326ccf3d674c3e7b@mail.gmail.com> <20080401163714.350500551@mail.messagingengine.com> <5312b4210804180339g730a683dm1f5e076b7bf63f06@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <95AF3C76-0FC1-4617-9223-35CED8045C6D@usermail.com> On Apr 18, 2008, at 5:39 AM, Arne Hulstein wrote: > > The part that I see is in the upper 30%. It pretty much looks like > it should. As that part emits quite a bit of light, I have not been > able to make out much in the lower 60%. The light part seems to > only show part of the screen, though I can not confirm it is the > exact same part it should show. If any part of the screen is illuminated then the inverter board is functioning. If I recall correctly, there are several separate fluorescent emitters in the screen. The connection to one or more is broken. The easy fix is to replace the screen. You can open it and look for a connection problem. The screen is glued together but it can be opened. I had to do that to replace a broken hinge. The glue they use is not super strong. Remove the small screws in the border that attach to the hinge, then slowly and carefully pry the layers apart with a wide blade, such as a putty knife. To reassemble, I forget which glue I used but I'd avoid something really strong like epoxy in case you need to fix it again. "Shoe Goo" or a similar would probably work ok. Even a cyanacrylate (like Super Glue) would work well if used sparingly. Test the light before gluing anything... If you use a stinky organic-solvent glue like Shoe Goo, test a bit on the plastic parts first to make sure the solvent doesn't damage it. Once it is together, clamp lightly by putting a book on it to make sure the frame is not bowed while it dries. Cheers, Scott From arne.hulstein at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 04:37:07 2008 From: arne.hulstein at gmail.com (Arne Hulstein) Date: Fri Apr 18 04:37:15 2008 Subject: [Ti] Screen has gone blank In-Reply-To: <95AF3C76-0FC1-4617-9223-35CED8045C6D@usermail.com> References: <5312b4210803310118x2639b438v4059571335d938a0@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210803311418k3a361031w154feb1e6c60d068@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210804010010k6eb73c5ew326ccf3d674c3e7b@mail.gmail.com> <20080401163714.350500551@mail.messagingengine.com> <5312b4210804180339g730a683dm1f5e076b7bf63f06@mail.gmail.com> <95AF3C76-0FC1-4617-9223-35CED8045C6D@usermail.com> Message-ID: <5312b4210804180437s324443e5w6adc22214cb3b704@mail.gmail.com> On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Scott Strehlow wrote: > > If any part of the screen is illuminated then the inverter board is functioning. If I recall correctly, there are several separate fluorescent emitters in the screen. The connection to one or more is broken. The easy fix is to replace the screen. 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URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/titanium/attachments/20080418/0cf0b323/attachment.html From strehlow at usermail.com Fri Apr 18 10:23:37 2008 From: strehlow at usermail.com (Scott Strehlow) Date: Fri Apr 18 10:24:08 2008 Subject: [Ti] Screen has gone blank In-Reply-To: <5312b4210804180437s324443e5w6adc22214cb3b704@mail.gmail.com> References: <5312b4210803310118x2639b438v4059571335d938a0@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210803311418k3a361031w154feb1e6c60d068@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210804010010k6eb73c5ew326ccf3d674c3e7b@mail.gmail.com> <20080401163714.350500551@mail.messagingengine.com> <5312b4210804180339g730a683dm1f5e076b7bf63f06@mail.gmail.com> <95AF3C76-0FC1-4617-9223-35CED8045C6D@usermail.com> <5312b4210804180437s324443e5w6adc22214cb3b704@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: Arne, A quick eBay search shows 2 Buy It Now listings for under $200. On Apr 18, 2008, at 6:37 AM, Arne Hulstein wrote: > On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Scott Strehlow > wrote: > > > > If any part of the screen is illuminated then the inverter board > is functioning. If I recall correctly, there are several separate > fluorescent emitters in the screen. The connection to one or more > is broken. The easy fix is to replace the screen. > > Scott, what would a replacement screen cost? Are they easily > available at all, or just at Apple at umpteenhundred dollars? ;-) > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From digital.discuss at gmail.com Fri Apr 18 16:04:53 2008 From: digital.discuss at gmail.com (MB) Date: Fri Apr 18 16:05:10 2008 Subject: [Ti] Screen has gone blank In-Reply-To: References: <5312b4210803310118x2639b438v4059571335d938a0@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210803311418k3a361031w154feb1e6c60d068@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210804010010k6eb73c5ew326ccf3d674c3e7b@mail.gmail.com> <20080401163714.350500551@mail.messagingengine.com> <5312b4210804180339g730a683dm1f5e076b7bf63f06@mail.gmail.com> <95AF3C76-0FC1-4617-9223-35CED8045C6D@usermail.com> <5312b4210804180437s324443e5w6adc22214cb3b704@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <20080418230453.2119723946@mail.messagingengine.com> Scott Strehlow sa s?h?r: > The easy fix is to replace the screen. You can open it and >look for a connection problem. The screen is glued together but it >can be opened. I had to do that to replace a broken hinge. Well, I would not call replacing the LCD itself an "easy" fix, unless one really know your stuff. It's doable of course, but easily one of the hardest repair operations to undertake on a titanium. I realize you most likely mentioned the take apart instructions as a way to get more info on what could be wrong and as a learning experience. I'd rather get a complete display myself, if possible. >A quick eBay search shows 2 Buy It Now listings for under $200. I assume you impled getting a complete display with cables, housing, hinges and all? That's available for less than $200. Found one for $149 plus $13.75 freight. I'm not sure I would do this for anything less than a 1Ghz machine, but I've spent on my 400 during the years. I crashed my display in 2006 and got a replacement display from somewhere, must have been my friends machine I think that he gave to me as trash (car accident). I also bought a complete 1Ghz for about $250 (in swedish currency) with a burnt motherboard. I'd love to get a replacement board, but they are too expensive for me at the moment. I could go $250 for one when I have the money. From strehlow at usermail.com Fri Apr 18 17:18:55 2008 From: strehlow at usermail.com (Scott Strehlow) Date: Fri Apr 18 17:19:31 2008 Subject: [Ti] Screen has gone blank In-Reply-To: <20080418230453.2119723946@mail.messagingengine.com> References: <5312b4210803310118x2639b438v4059571335d938a0@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210803311418k3a361031w154feb1e6c60d068@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210804010010k6eb73c5ew326ccf3d674c3e7b@mail.gmail.com> <20080401163714.350500551@mail.messagingengine.com> <5312b4210804180339g730a683dm1f5e076b7bf63f06@mail.gmail.com> <95AF3C76-0FC1-4617-9223-35CED8045C6D@usermail.com> <5312b4210804180437s324443e5w6adc22214cb3b704@mail.gmail.com> <20080418230453.2119723946@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <7044CE3F-2AC7-441C-BE19-8EFE51B51DA6@usermail.com> On Apr 18, 2008, at 6:04 PM, MB wrote: > Scott Strehlow sa s?h?r: > >> The easy fix is to replace the screen. > Well, I would not call replacing the LCD itself an "easy" fix, unless > one really know your stuff. Well, I guess I was thinking replacement was easy, as compared to taking the screen apart to repair. Cheers, Scott From digital.discuss at gmail.com Sat Apr 19 14:40:33 2008 From: digital.discuss at gmail.com (MB) Date: Sat Apr 19 14:41:11 2008 Subject: [Ti] Screen has gone blank In-Reply-To: <7044CE3F-2AC7-441C-BE19-8EFE51B51DA6@usermail.com> References: <5312b4210803310118x2639b438v4059571335d938a0@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210803311418k3a361031w154feb1e6c60d068@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210804010010k6eb73c5ew326ccf3d674c3e7b@mail.gmail.com> <20080401163714.350500551@mail.messagingengine.com> <5312b4210804180339g730a683dm1f5e076b7bf63f06@mail.gmail.com> <95AF3C76-0FC1-4617-9223-35CED8045C6D@usermail.com> <5312b4210804180437s324443e5w6adc22214cb3b704@mail.gmail.com> <20080418230453.2119723946@mail.messagingengine.com> <7044CE3F-2AC7-441C-BE19-8EFE51B51DA6@usermail.com> Message-ID: <20080419214033.393013425@mail.messagingengine.com> Scott Strehlow said: >Well, I guess I was thinking replacement was easy, as compared to >taking the screen apart to repair. Well, the latter was for some reason what I thought you were suggesting as primary. I think that in the context I read "screen" as the LCD itself and I would think about the "display" as the complete unit with the LCD and housing, cabling and hinges. On the other hand english is not my first language.... :-) What would you suggest one call the LCD itself? The LCD unit? From strehlow at usermail.com Sat Apr 19 14:58:54 2008 From: strehlow at usermail.com (Scott Strehlow) Date: Sat Apr 19 14:59:20 2008 Subject: [Ti] Screen has gone blank In-Reply-To: <20080419214033.393013425@mail.messagingengine.com> References: <5312b4210803310118x2639b438v4059571335d938a0@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210803311418k3a361031w154feb1e6c60d068@mail.gmail.com> <5312b4210804010010k6eb73c5ew326ccf3d674c3e7b@mail.gmail.com> <20080401163714.350500551@mail.messagingengine.com> <5312b4210804180339g730a683dm1f5e076b7bf63f06@mail.gmail.com> <95AF3C76-0FC1-4617-9223-35CED8045C6D@usermail.com> <5312b4210804180437s324443e5w6adc22214cb3b704@mail.gmail.com> <20080418230453.2119723946@mail.messagingengine.com> <7044CE3F-2AC7-441C-BE19-8EFE51B51DA6@usermail.com> <20080419214033.393013425@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <8C0412D7-C170-4C93-885B-B9D81E1A2D7B@usermail.com> I'd probably call it the LCD panel. Ya, I wasn't too clear. When I said "screen" I was actually talking about the whole screen/lid assembly. Sorry for the confusion. "Display" is a much better word choice. English is my first (and for the most part, only) language, but that doesn't mean I always use it correctly... >> Well, I guess I was thinking replacement was easy, as compared to >> taking the screen apart to repair. > > Well, the latter was for some reason what I thought you were > suggesting > as primary. I think that in the context I read "screen" as the LCD > itself and I would think about the "display" as the complete unit with > the LCD and housing, cabling and hinges. On the other hand english is > not my first language.... :-) > > What would you suggest one call the LCD itself? The LCD unit? > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > From mac at kapellos.com Sun Apr 20 08:01:23 2008 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Sun Apr 20 08:01:42 2008 Subject: [Ti] new drive for macbook Message-ID: hi i'd like to upgrade my dad's macbook harddrive. he currently has the 80gb version and i'd like to install a 200 or 200gb, with 5400 or 7200rpms? are there any brands i should avoid? thanks in advance! alexandre 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.5.2 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.11 From TrevorHutley at consultant.com Sun Apr 20 08:38:37 2008 From: TrevorHutley at consultant.com (Dr. Trevor J. Hutley) Date: Sun Apr 20 08:39:16 2008 Subject: [Ti] new drive for macbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <89E5BC26-1025-434A-A7D8-1CEBBA637C13@consultant.com> On 20 Apr 2008, at 16:01, alexandre wrote: > hi > > i'd like to upgrade my dad's macbook harddrive. he currently has the > 80gb version and i'd like to install a 200 or 200gb, with 5400 or > 7200rpms? > > are there any brands i should avoid? Salut ! I have positive experience with 2.5" drives from 40 to 160 Gb with IBM, Hitachi, Samsung, SeaGate/Momentus, Toshiba. Go for the 7200 rpm if you can, as I have found the speed does make a difference. Certainly not lower than 5400rpm. Trevor From mac at kapellos.com Sun Apr 20 10:57:02 2008 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre) Date: Sun Apr 20 10:57:37 2008 Subject: [Ti] new drive for macbook In-Reply-To: <89E5BC26-1025-434A-A7D8-1CEBBA637C13@consultant.com> References: <89E5BC26-1025-434A-A7D8-1CEBBA637C13@consultant.com> Message-ID: <109B06C1-A25F-4376-BCF1-2DD4C85DC91F@kapellos.com> thanks trevor! i thought i had read somewhere that toshibas had a higher failure rate? maybe i'm wrong regards, alexandre 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.5.2 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.11 On Apr 20, 2008, at 5:38 PM, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: > > On 20 Apr 2008, at 16:01, alexandre wrote: > >> hi >> >> i'd like to upgrade my dad's macbook harddrive. he currently has >> the 80gb version and i'd like to install a 200 or 200gb, with 5400 >> or 7200rpms? >> >> are there any brands i should avoid? > > Salut ! > > I have positive experience with 2.5" drives from 40 to 160 Gb with > IBM, Hitachi, Samsung, SeaGate/Momentus, Toshiba. > Go for the 7200 rpm if you can, as I have found the speed does make > a difference. > Certainly not lower than 5400rpm. > > Trevor > > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > From ddelmonte at mac.com Sun Apr 20 11:56:53 2008 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David Delmonte) Date: Sun Apr 20 11:57:26 2008 Subject: [Ti] new drive for macbook In-Reply-To: <89E5BC26-1025-434A-A7D8-1CEBBA637C13@consultant.com> References: <89E5BC26-1025-434A-A7D8-1CEBBA637C13@consultant.com> Message-ID: <86A2A359-F891-49E5-A5E2-1B4488F24DD7@mac.com> MacSales (aka Other World Computing) just announced a 500GB 2.5 drive that would work. I would be a bit more conservative. But I like Seagate. Their customer service has been great. Only downside, that any firmware updates (only ever had 1 in 10 years), must be performed on a Windows system. David On Apr 20, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: On 20 Apr 2008, at 16:01, alexandre wrote: > hi > > i'd like to upgrade my dad's macbook harddrive. he currently has the > 80gb version and i'd like to install a 200 or 200gb, with 5400 or > 7200rpms? > > are there any brands i should avoid? Salut ! I have positive experience with 2.5" drives from 40 to 160 Gb with IBM, Hitachi, Samsung, SeaGate/Momentus, Toshiba. Go for the 7200 rpm if you can, as I have found the speed does make a difference. Certainly not lower than 5400rpm. Trevor _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From ardeshir at mac.com Sun Apr 20 12:43:15 2008 From: ardeshir at mac.com (Ardeshir Mehta) Date: Sun Apr 20 12:44:27 2008 Subject: New Drive for TiBook? (was: Re: [Ti] new drive for macbook) In-Reply-To: <17459696.1208718039645.JavaMail.root@m09> References: <89E5BC26-1025-434A-A7D8-1CEBBA637C13@consultant.com> <17459696.1208718039645.JavaMail.root@m09> Message-ID: On 20-Apr-08, at 2:56 PM, David Delmonte wrote: > MacSales (aka Other World Computing) just announced a 500GB 2.5 > drive that would work. I would be a bit more conservative. But I > like Seagate. Their customer service has been great. Only downside, > that any firmware updates (only ever had 1 in 10 years), must be > performed on a Windows system. > > David Will this work on a TiBook? +++++ > On Apr 20, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: > > > On 20 Apr 2008, at 16:01, alexandre wrote: > >> hi >> >> i'd like to upgrade my dad's macbook harddrive. he currently has >> the 80gb version and i'd like to install a 200 or 200gb, with 5400 >> or 7200rpms? >> >> are there any brands i should avoid? > > Salut ! > > I have positive experience with 2.5" drives from 40 to 160 Gb with > IBM, Hitachi, Samsung, SeaGate/Momentus, Toshiba. > Go for the 7200 rpm if you can, as I have found the speed does make > a difference. > Certainly not lower than 5400rpm. > > Trevor From ddelmonte at mac.com Sun Apr 20 14:07:01 2008 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David Delmonte) Date: Sun Apr 20 14:09:35 2008 Subject: New Drive for TiBook? (was: Re: [Ti] new drive for macbook) In-Reply-To: References: <89E5BC26-1025-434A-A7D8-1CEBBA637C13@consultant.com> <17459696.1208718039645.JavaMail.root@m09> Message-ID: I apologize - bad advice. In the Ti books, I believe that the drives are IDE/ATA. In the new machines, they are SATA. The 500 is a SATA. I suggest you look at macsales.com, and their staff are very helpful. David On Apr 20, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Ardeshir Mehta wrote: On 20-Apr-08, at 2:56 PM, David Delmonte wrote: > MacSales (aka Other World Computing) just announced a 500GB 2.5 > drive that would work. I would be a bit more conservative. But I > like Seagate. Their customer service has been great. Only downside, > that any firmware updates (only ever had 1 in 10 years), must be > performed on a Windows system. > > David Will this work on a TiBook? +++++ > On Apr 20, 2008, at 11:38 AM, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: > > > On 20 Apr 2008, at 16:01, alexandre wrote: > >> hi >> >> i'd like to upgrade my dad's macbook harddrive. he currently has >> the 80gb version and i'd like to install a 200 or 200gb, with 5400 >> or 7200rpms? >> >> are there any brands i should avoid? > > Salut ! > > I have positive experience with 2.5" drives from 40 to 160 Gb with > IBM, Hitachi, Samsung, SeaGate/Momentus, Toshiba. > Go for the 7200 rpm if you can, as I have found the speed does make > a difference. > Certainly not lower than 5400rpm. > > Trevor _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From fred at mindstate.com Sun Apr 20 14:57:55 2008 From: fred at mindstate.com (Fred) Date: Sun Apr 20 14:58:10 2008 Subject: New Drive for TiBook? (was: Re: [Ti] new drive for macbook) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > From: David Delmonte > Reply-To: "A place to discuss Apple's Titanium computers." > > Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 17:07:01 -0400 > To: "A place to discuss Apple's Titanium computers." > > Subject: Re: New Drive for TiBook? (was: Re: [Ti] new drive for macbook) > > I apologize - bad advice. In the Ti books, I believe that the drives > are IDE/ATA. In the new machines, they are SATA. The 500 is a SATA. > > I suggest you look at macsales.com, and their staff are very helpful. > > David > On Apr 20, 2008, at 3:43 PM, Ardeshir Mehta wrote: > > > On 20-Apr-08, at 2:56 PM, David Delmonte wrote: > >> MacSales (aka Other World Computing) just announced a 500GB 2.5 >> drive that would work. I would be a bit more conservative. But I >> like Seagate. Their customer service has been great. Only downside, >> that any firmware updates (only ever had 1 in 10 years), must be >> performed on a Windows system. >> >> David > > Will this work on a TiBook? The 500GB drive not only is SATA but it only fits in the 17" MacBook Pro due to the size of the casing of the drive. From strehlow at usermail.com Sun Apr 20 15:47:40 2008 From: strehlow at usermail.com (Scott Strehlow) Date: Sun Apr 20 15:47:56 2008 Subject: [Ti] new drive for macbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Hi Alexandre, In November bought a WDC Passport 250GB USB external HD for $150 including tax at Best Buy. It had a SATA drive in it so I just cloned my Mac to it then swapped the drives. I now have the 250GB internal and put the original 120GB into the enclosure. The whole process, including copying, took maybe an hour. I don't think it took more than ten minutes to actually do the physical swap. It took a bit of fiddling to figure out that the external enclosure just snaps together. I was a bit timid about prying on it until I got a corner started and saw how it went together. It is a 5400 RPM drive and is plenty quick. The actual spindle speed is not super critical to the speed of the drive. What matters is how fast the bits pass by the read head. All other things equal, a 4200 RPM 128GB disk will have about the same read/write speed as a 5400 RPM 100GB as the bits are packed closer together on the track. The seek time is directly related to the rotational speed. On average, the platter has to make a half-turn to get to the requested sector. The 4200 takes about 14ms per turn and the 5400 about 11ms. These are not huge differences. I do notice a performance difference but I can deal with either. The slower drives do use less power and put out less heat. If you are running on batteries most of the time, it might be worth going for the slower unit. They are cheaper too. Of course it depends on what you are running. Editing video demands a faster drive. Checking email doesn't care. Cheers, Scott On Apr 20, 2008, at 10:01 AM, alexandre wrote: > hi > > i'd like to upgrade my dad's macbook harddrive. he currently has > the 80gb version and i'd like to install a 200 or 200gb, with 5400 > or 7200rpms? > > are there any brands i should avoid? > > thanks in advance! > > alexandre > 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.5.2 > 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.11 > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > From bozz at jakebozz.com Sun Apr 20 16:10:26 2008 From: bozz at jakebozz.com (bozz) Date: Sun Apr 20 16:12:06 2008 Subject: [Ti] Re: New Drive for TiBook? In-Reply-To: References: <89E5BC26-1025-434A-A7D8-1CEBBA637C13@consultant.com> <17459696.1208718039645.JavaMail.root@m09> Message-ID: <480BCD62.9080603@jakebozz.com> Do 2.5" IDE/ATA drives come any larger than 250GB? I was hoping for a 320GB, but only see them in SATA... David Delmonte wrote: > I apologize - bad advice. In the Ti books, I believe that the drives > are IDE/ATA. In the new machines, they are SATA. The 500 is a SATA. > > I suggest you look at macsales.com, and their staff are very helpful. > > David From ddelmonte at mac.com Sun Apr 20 19:39:20 2008 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David Delmonte) Date: Sun Apr 20 19:39:42 2008 Subject: [Ti] new drive for macbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <15FB5436-DFE3-45CB-AEE0-33372397DC85@mac.com> I have swapped plenty of drives in my powerbooks, ibooks and macbooks. The thing is, what computer do you have. I do not think you can put a SATA drive in a Ti Powerbook. I'll do some more digging in the morning. David On Apr 20, 2008, at 6:47 PM, Scott Strehlow wrote: Hi Alexandre, In November bought a WDC Passport 250GB USB external HD for $150 including tax at Best Buy. It had a SATA drive in it so I just cloned my Mac to it then swapped the drives. I now have the 250GB internal and put the original 120GB into the enclosure. The whole process, including copying, took maybe an hour. I don't think it took more than ten minutes to actually do the physical swap. It took a bit of fiddling to figure out that the external enclosure just snaps together. I was a bit timid about prying on it until I got a corner started and saw how it went together. It is a 5400 RPM drive and is plenty quick. The actual spindle speed is not super critical to the speed of the drive. What matters is how fast the bits pass by the read head. All other things equal, a 4200 RPM 128GB disk will have about the same read/write speed as a 5400 RPM 100GB as the bits are packed closer together on the track. The seek time is directly related to the rotational speed. On average, the platter has to make a half-turn to get to the requested sector. The 4200 takes about 14ms per turn and the 5400 about 11ms. These are not huge differences. I do notice a performance difference but I can deal with either. The slower drives do use less power and put out less heat. If you are running on batteries most of the time, it might be worth going for the slower unit. They are cheaper too. Of course it depends on what you are running. Editing video demands a faster drive. Checking email doesn't care. Cheers, Scott On Apr 20, 2008, at 10:01 AM, alexandre wrote: > hi > > i'd like to upgrade my dad's macbook harddrive. he currently has the > 80gb version and i'd like to install a 200 or 200gb, with 5400 or > 7200rpms? > > are there any brands i should avoid? > > thanks in advance! > > alexandre > 17" 2.33ghz ic2d macbook pro / 2.0gb / 160gb / X.5.2 > 24" 2.33ghz ic2d imac / 2.0gb / 250gb / X.4.11 > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From strehlow at usermail.com Mon Apr 21 04:08:06 2008 From: strehlow at usermail.com (Scott Strehlow) Date: Mon Apr 21 04:08:48 2008 Subject: [Ti] new drive for macbook In-Reply-To: <15FB5436-DFE3-45CB-AEE0-33372397DC85@mac.com> References: <15FB5436-DFE3-45CB-AEE0-33372397DC85@mac.com> Message-ID: Apr 20, 2008, at 9:39 PM, David Delmonte wrote: > I have swapped plenty of drives in my powerbooks, ibooks and > macbooks. The thing is, what computer do you have. I do not think > you can put a SATA drive in a Ti Powerbook. I'll do some more > digging in the morning. Correct. The TiBook uses a parallel ATA interface. Someone might make a parallel to serial adapter though. I'm not sure there would be room for it however. From mac at kapellos.com Mon Apr 21 16:21:04 2008 From: mac at kapellos.com (alexandre kapellos) Date: Mon Apr 21 16:21:20 2008 Subject: [Ti] new drive for macbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: thanks to all who replied? i finally got a samsung 250gb / 5400rpm / 8mb cache drive. it was a good compromise between price (chf 100.00) and performance. i also bought an usb2 case. i cloned the drive with CCC (it took about 3 hours) and then replaced the original with the new drive. (i'm amazed at how fast and easy it is to actually replace the drives in the macbooks. thanks apple!) i rebooted and everything was fine? i'll be keeping the "old" drive "as is" for a few days, just in case? kind regards alexandre On Apr 21, 2008, at 12:47 AM, Scott Strehlow wrote: > Hi Alexandre, > > In November bought a WDC Passport 250GB USB external HD for $150 > including tax at Best Buy. It had a SATA drive in it so I just > cloned my Mac to it then swapped the drives. I now have the 250GB > internal and put the original 120GB into the enclosure. The whole > process, including copying, took maybe an hour. I don't think it > took more than ten minutes to actually do the physical swap. It > took a bit of fiddling to figure out that the external enclosure > just snaps together. I was a bit timid about prying on it until I > got a corner started and saw how it went together. > > It is a 5400 RPM drive and is plenty quick. The actual spindle > speed is not super critical to the speed of the drive. What > matters is how fast the bits pass by the read head. All other > things equal, a 4200 RPM 128GB disk will have about the same read/ > write speed as a 5400 RPM 100GB as the bits are packed closer > together on the track. The seek time is directly related to the > rotational speed. On average, the platter has to make a half-turn > to get to the requested sector. The 4200 takes about 14ms per turn > and the 5400 about 11ms. These are not huge differences. I do > notice a performance difference but I can deal with either. The > slower drives do use less power and put out less heat. If you are > running on batteries most of the time, it might be worth going for > the slower unit. They are cheaper too. > > Of course it depends on what you are running. Editing video > demands a faster drive. Checking email doesn't care. > > Cheers, > > Scott > > From ddelmonte at mac.com Mon Apr 21 16:39:06 2008 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David Delmonte) Date: Mon Apr 21 16:39:18 2008 Subject: [Ti] new drive for macbook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <79DCAB6F-CA60-450E-8259-AA4CA5560C23@mac.com> Alexandre, congratulations on a good decision. You may want to wait a few days to see that your new drive is ok, then use the old one for Time Machine. Alternatively, buy a second drive for that enclosure. David On Apr 21, 2008, at 7:21 PM, alexandre kapellos wrote: thanks to all who replied? i finally got a samsung 250gb / 5400rpm / 8mb cache drive. it was a good compromise between price (chf 100.00) and performance. i also bought an usb2 case. i cloned the drive with CCC (it took about 3 hours) and then replaced the original with the new drive. (i'm amazed at how fast and easy it is to actually replace the drives in the macbooks. thanks apple!) i rebooted and everything was fine? i'll be keeping the "old" drive "as is" for a few days, just in case? kind regards alexandre On Apr 21, 2008, at 12:47 AM, Scott Strehlow wrote: > Hi Alexandre, > > In November bought a WDC Passport 250GB USB external HD for $150 > including tax at Best Buy. It had a SATA drive in it so I just > cloned my Mac to it then swapped the drives. I now have the 250GB > internal and put the original 120GB into the enclosure. The whole > process, including copying, took maybe an hour. I don't think it > took more than ten minutes to actually do the physical swap. It > took a bit of fiddling to figure out that the external enclosure > just snaps together. I was a bit timid about prying on it until I > got a corner started and saw how it went together. > > It is a 5400 RPM drive and is plenty quick. The actual spindle > speed is not super critical to the speed of the drive. What matters > is how fast the bits pass by the read head. All other things equal, > a 4200 RPM 128GB disk will have about the same read/write speed as a > 5400 RPM 100GB as the bits are packed closer together on the track. > The seek time is directly related to the rotational speed. On > average, the platter has to make a half-turn to get to the requested > sector. The 4200 takes about 14ms per turn and the 5400 about > 11ms. These are not huge differences. I do notice a performance > difference but I can deal with either. The slower drives do use > less power and put out less heat. If you are running on batteries > most of the time, it might be worth going for the slower unit. They > are cheaper too. > > Of course it depends on what you are running. Editing video demands > a faster drive. Checking email doesn't care. > > Cheers, > > Scott > > _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From TrevorHutley at consultant.com Tue Apr 22 10:45:29 2008 From: TrevorHutley at consultant.com (Dr. Trevor J. Hutley) Date: Tue Apr 22 10:46:35 2008 Subject: [Ti] new drive for MacBook In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <5A7DE412-1453-49D3-9C22-A19B0C273D63@consultant.com> On 22 Apr 2008, at 00:21, alexandre kapellos wrote: > i finally got a samsung 250gb / 5400rpm / 8mb cache drive. it was a > good compromise between price (chf 100.00) and performance. i also > bought an usb2 case. A good choice. My last drive was a 160Gb Samsung. > i cloned the drive with CCC I had always used CCC in the last, but I recently bought SuperDuper for cloning and now use it for incremental backup. It seems more intuitive, and fast. Although I use TimeMachine, I also use SuperDuper for incremental backup at home and at work. regards, Trevor From digital.discuss at gmail.com Fri Apr 25 05:37:05 2008 From: digital.discuss at gmail.com (MB) Date: Fri Apr 25 05:37:21 2008 Subject: [Ti] clock in sys pref doesn't agree with menu bar Message-ID: <20080425123705.869660511@mail.messagingengine.com> I have this strange phenomena, in OS X 10.4.8 on my trusty titanium 400Mhz, when I've set the clock automatically to time.euro.apple.com, my time zone is CEST which is 2+ hours compared to GMT with current summertime. The clock in system prefs shows the correct time when I have set it, but the displayed clock in the menu bar is 2 hours behind. If I restart sys pref, the time zone is erroneusly set to GMT. So it keeps reverting to the wrong time zone. Same thing if I start Sys pref app as root (with Pseudo). The clock inside the time panel is correct and the displayed menu bar clock is still 2 hours behind. The time zone is always correct when run as root however. How can I prevent that the wrong time zone is set in my user account? I have deleted the prefs com.apple.MenuBarClock.plist which contains the property ClockLocation, which is set to 2. It wouldn't seem this is the correct place for the system clock though, but for a short time the time is correct. Any ideas are welcome. From TrevorHutley at consultant.com Fri Apr 25 07:24:38 2008 From: TrevorHutley at consultant.com (Dr. Trevor J. Hutley) Date: Fri Apr 25 07:24:50 2008 Subject: [Ti] clock in sys pref doesn't agree with menu bar In-Reply-To: <20080425123705.869660511@mail.messagingengine.com> References: <20080425123705.869660511@mail.messagingengine.com> Message-ID: <36C90F57-67D6-4A95-980D-C0A315A23CC9@consultant.com> On 25 Apr 2008, at 13:37, MB wrote: > I have this strange phenomena, in OS X 10.4.8 on my trusty titanium > 400Mhz, when I've set the clock automatically to > time.euro.apple.com, my > time zone is CEST which is 2+ hours compared to GMT with current > summertime. > > The clock in system prefs shows the correct time when I have set it, > but > the displayed clock in the menu bar is 2 hours behind. > > If I restart sys pref, the time zone is erroneusly set to GMT. So it > keeps reverting to the wrong time zone. > > Same thing if I start Sys pref app as root (with Pseudo). The clock > inside the time panel is correct and the displayed menu bar clock is > still 2 hours behind. The time zone is always correct when run as > root > however. > > How can I prevent that the wrong time zone is set in my user account? > > I have deleted the prefs com.apple.MenuBarClock.plist which contains > the > property ClockLocation, which is set to 2. It wouldn't seem this is > the > correct place for the system clock though, but for a short time the > time > is correct. > > Any ideas are welcome. VERY strange....... With this sort of behaviour, I run a suite of simple / basic things, to see if it gets fixed. Zap the PRAM (restart several times with cmd-ctl-P-R. Since you are still on Tiger, I would restart and run AppleJack. Then install the latest combo update again. Start in Safe Mode (holding down the shift key until the Ti400 has booted. See how it is now, to decide the next step. Trevor From ddelmonte at mac.com Fri Apr 25 07:27:22 2008 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David Delmonte) Date: Fri Apr 25 07:27:34 2008 Subject: [Ti] clock in sys pref doesn't agree with menu bar In-Reply-To: <36C90F57-67D6-4A95-980D-C0A315A23CC9@consultant.com> References: <20080425123705.869660511@mail.messagingengine.com> <36C90F57-67D6-4A95-980D-C0A315A23CC9@consultant.com> Message-ID: I agree with Trevor, but I also think the Ti Books may contain a Lithium-Ion battery that you may need to have replaced. David On Apr 25, 2008, at 10:24 AM, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: On 25 Apr 2008, at 13:37, MB wrote: > I have this strange phenomena, in OS X 10.4.8 on my trusty titanium > 400Mhz, when I've set the clock automatically to > time.euro.apple.com, my > time zone is CEST which is 2+ hours compared to GMT with current > summertime. > > The clock in system prefs shows the correct time when I have set it, > but > the displayed clock in the menu bar is 2 hours behind. > > If I restart sys pref, the time zone is erroneusly set to GMT. So it > keeps reverting to the wrong time zone. > > Same thing if I start Sys pref app as root (with Pseudo). The clock > inside the time panel is correct and the displayed menu bar clock is > still 2 hours behind. The time zone is always correct when run as > root > however. > > How can I prevent that the wrong time zone is set in my user account? > > I have deleted the prefs com.apple.MenuBarClock.plist which contains > the > property ClockLocation, which is set to 2. It wouldn't seem this is > the > correct place for the system clock though, but for a short time the > time > is correct. > > Any ideas are welcome. VERY strange....... With this sort of behaviour, I run a suite of simple / basic things, to see if it gets fixed. Zap the PRAM (restart several times with cmd-ctl-P-R. Since you are still on Tiger, I would restart and run AppleJack. Then install the latest combo update again. Start in Safe Mode (holding down the shift key until the Ti400 has booted. See how it is now, to decide the next step. Trevor _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From TrevorHutley at consultant.com Fri Apr 25 08:26:20 2008 From: TrevorHutley at consultant.com (Dr. Trevor J. Hutley) Date: Fri Apr 25 08:28:07 2008 Subject: [Ti] business card readers In-Reply-To: References: <1C56B9A2-4938-42A0-BA23-4133484341FF@consultant.com> Message-ID: <1963EE99-38DC-4125-8F31-A4CB2056EDE5@consultant.com> On 17 Apr 2008, at 11:04, David Delmonte wrote: > Hello Trevor. I used the IrisCard mini. Really terrific and does > exactly what you are asking. Took me two days on and off to enter > two shoeboxes of cards. A little editing is required in some cards. > >> On Apr 17, 2008, at 2:17 AM, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: >> >> I would like to get a reader for business cards that I can use with >> my aluminium G4 Powerbook, running 10.5.2. >> >> Ideally, I would like to scan / read a business card, so that the >> data / information can go in to my Address Book. David - just to let you and the List know that I received my IrisCard mini this week and have started the process of scanning all the cards. It seems to be exactly what I need. Thanks for the suggestion. regards, Trevor From ddelmonte at mac.com Fri Apr 25 08:32:51 2008 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David Delmonte) Date: Fri Apr 25 08:34:34 2008 Subject: [Ti] business card readers In-Reply-To: <1963EE99-38DC-4125-8F31-A4CB2056EDE5@consultant.com> References: <1C56B9A2-4938-42A0-BA23-4133484341FF@consultant.com> <1963EE99-38DC-4125-8F31-A4CB2056EDE5@consultant.com> Message-ID: <2B3F61A1-22EA-4D1A-B946-9ED7FC735F4A@mac.com> Great Stuff Trevor, thanks for the feedback and good luck with the data entry. David On Apr 25, 2008, at 11:26 AM, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: On 17 Apr 2008, at 11:04, David Delmonte wrote: > Hello Trevor. I used the IrisCard mini. Really terrific and does > exactly what you are asking. Took me two days on and off to enter > two shoeboxes of cards. A little editing is required in some cards. > >> On Apr 17, 2008, at 2:17 AM, Dr. Trevor J. Hutley wrote: >> >> I would like to get a reader for business cards that I can use with >> my aluminium G4 Powerbook, running 10.5.2. >> >> Ideally, I would like to scan / read a business card, so that the >> data / information can go in to my Address Book. David - just to let you and the List know that I received my IrisCard mini this week and have started the process of scanning all the cards. It seems to be exactly what I need. Thanks for the suggestion. regards, Trevor _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From persip at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 05:00:58 2008 From: persip at gmail.com (Sam Ami) Date: Tue Apr 29 05:01:11 2008 Subject: [Ti] bluetooth? Message-ID: hi all if i were to upgrade my powerbook g4 17", would i still expect to have bluetooth access? From ejstevens at earthlink.net Tue Apr 29 05:29:59 2008 From: ejstevens at earthlink.net (Ed Stevens) Date: Tue Apr 29 05:30:07 2008 Subject: [Ti] bluetooth? In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <640E27EB-7F8C-4247-8C0C-359BD7B3AA14@earthlink.net> why don't you download the free program mactracker from links at macupdate.com or versiontracker.com and look into the models you wish to learn about. ------- Sincerely, Ed Stevens On Apr 29, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Sam Ami wrote: > if i were to upgrade my powerbook g4 17", would i still expect to have > bluetooth access? -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/pipermail/titanium/attachments/20080429/4d70a50d/attachment.html From persip at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 16:31:38 2008 From: persip at gmail.com (Sam Ami) Date: Tue Apr 29 16:31:54 2008 Subject: [Ti] bluetooth? In-Reply-To: <640E27EB-7F8C-4247-8C0C-359BD7B3AA14@earthlink.net> References: <640E27EB-7F8C-4247-8C0C-359BD7B3AA14@earthlink.net> Message-ID: thanks will do exactly that.... i'm new to the mac community so just feeling my way around On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Ed Stevens wrote: > why don't you download the free program mactracker from links at > macupdate.com or versiontracker.com and look into the models you wish to > learn about. > > > > > ------- > Sincerely, > Ed Stevens > > > On Apr 29, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Sam Ami wrote: > if i were to upgrade my powerbook g4 17", would i still expect to have > bluetooth access? > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > From ddelmonte at mac.com Tue Apr 29 16:42:54 2008 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David Delmonte) Date: Tue Apr 29 16:43:04 2008 Subject: [Ti] bluetooth? In-Reply-To: References: <640E27EB-7F8C-4247-8C0C-359BD7B3AA14@earthlink.net> Message-ID: <458AF33A-49FD-476A-B52A-0B1ABE9D67C6@mac.com> Sam, welcome to the community. If you are asking to update specifically your Powerbook. First, see if it already has BT. Go to Apple Menu, then About this Mac. Click the button "More Info" and scroll down. That's like device manager in Windows. It'll tell you what components you have. If you do not have BT installed, it may be a costly venture to add it to your powerbook. An option though is to get a "Bluetooth Dongle". These are cheap and plug into a USB port on your PB, You will not need any drivers if the PB is running 10.4.2 and above (if my memory serves me well). If you are looking for a new machine, BT is a build to order option on all laptops. Hope this is helpful. David ps. Let us know if you need a dongle recommendation. On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Sam Ami wrote: thanks will do exactly that.... i'm new to the mac community so just feeling my way around On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Ed Stevens wrote: > why don't you download the free program mactracker from links at > macupdate.com or versiontracker.com and look into the models you > wish to > learn about. > > > > > ------- > Sincerely, > Ed Stevens > > > On Apr 29, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Sam Ami wrote: > if i were to upgrade my powerbook g4 17", would i still expect to have > bluetooth access? > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From persip at gmail.com Tue Apr 29 23:47:52 2008 From: persip at gmail.com (Sam Ami) Date: Tue Apr 29 23:48:07 2008 Subject: [Ti] bluetooth? In-Reply-To: <458AF33A-49FD-476A-B52A-0B1ABE9D67C6@mac.com> References: <640E27EB-7F8C-4247-8C0C-359BD7B3AA14@earthlink.net> <458AF33A-49FD-476A-B52A-0B1ABE9D67C6@mac.com> Message-ID: is anyone running leopard on the powerbook 17" 1.67Ghz (powerbook5,7) ? do you still have bluetooth ? On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:42 AM, David Delmonte wrote: > Sam, welcome to the community. If you are asking to update specifically your > Powerbook. First, see if it already has BT. > > Go to Apple Menu, then About this Mac. Click the button "More Info" and > scroll down. That's like device manager in Windows. It'll tell you what > components you have. > > If you do not have BT installed, it may be a costly venture to add it to > your powerbook. An option though is to get a "Bluetooth Dongle". These are > cheap and plug into a USB port on your PB, > > You will not need any drivers if the PB is running 10.4.2 and above (if my > memory serves me well). > > If you are looking for a new machine, BT is a build to order option on all > laptops. > > Hope this is helpful. > > David > > ps. Let us know if you need a dongle recommendation. > > > On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Sam Ami wrote: > > thanks will do exactly that.... i'm new to the mac community so just > feeling my way around > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Ed Stevens > wrote: > > > why don't you download the free program mactracker from links at > > macupdate.com or versiontracker.com and look into the models you wish to > > learn about. > > > > > > > > > > ------- > > Sincerely, > > Ed Stevens > > > > > > On Apr 29, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Sam Ami wrote: > > if i were to upgrade my powerbook g4 17", would i still expect to have > > bluetooth access? > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Titanium mailing list > > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > From ddelmonte at mac.com Wed Apr 30 04:17:23 2008 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David Delmonte) Date: Wed Apr 30 04:17:38 2008 Subject: [Ti] bluetooth? In-Reply-To: References: <640E27EB-7F8C-4247-8C0C-359BD7B3AA14@earthlink.net> <458AF33A-49FD-476A-B52A-0B1ABE9D67C6@mac.com> Message-ID: <29AE48EE-602E-42E0-9351-CED25BFD71C5@mac.com> If you computer has Leopard, it will support BT. David On Apr 30, 2008, at 2:47 AM, Sam Ami wrote: is anyone running leopard on the powerbook 17" 1.67Ghz (powerbook5,7) ? do you still have bluetooth ? On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:42 AM, David Delmonte wrote: > Sam, welcome to the community. If you are asking to update > specifically your > Powerbook. First, see if it already has BT. > > Go to Apple Menu, then About this Mac. Click the button "More Info" > and > scroll down. That's like device manager in Windows. It'll tell you > what > components you have. > > If you do not have BT installed, it may be a costly venture to add > it to > your powerbook. An option though is to get a "Bluetooth Dongle". > These are > cheap and plug into a USB port on your PB, > > You will not need any drivers if the PB is running 10.4.2 and above > (if my > memory serves me well). > > If you are looking for a new machine, BT is a build to order option > on all > laptops. > > Hope this is helpful. > > David > > ps. Let us know if you need a dongle recommendation. > > > On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Sam Ami wrote: > > thanks will do exactly that.... i'm new to the mac community so just > feeling my way around > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Ed Stevens > wrote: > >> why don't you download the free program mactracker from links at >> macupdate.com or versiontracker.com and look into the models you >> wish to >> learn about. >> >> >> >> >> ------- >> Sincerely, >> Ed Stevens >> >> >> On Apr 29, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Sam Ami wrote: >> if i were to upgrade my powerbook g4 17", would i still expect to >> have >> bluetooth access? >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Titanium mailing list >> Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From persip at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 04:29:32 2008 From: persip at gmail.com (Sam Ami) Date: Wed Apr 30 04:30:08 2008 Subject: [Ti] bluetooth? In-Reply-To: <29AE48EE-602E-42E0-9351-CED25BFD71C5@mac.com> References: <640E27EB-7F8C-4247-8C0C-359BD7B3AA14@earthlink.net> <458AF33A-49FD-476A-B52A-0B1ABE9D67C6@mac.com> <29AE48EE-602E-42E0-9351-CED25BFD71C5@mac.com> Message-ID: thaTS WHAT I THOUGHT BUT IT DOESN'T On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:17 PM, David Delmonte wrote: > If you computer has Leopard, it will support BT. > > David > > > > On Apr 30, 2008, at 2:47 AM, Sam Ami wrote: > > is anyone running leopard on the powerbook 17" 1.67Ghz (powerbook5,7) ? > do you still have bluetooth ? > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:42 AM, David Delmonte wrote: > > > Sam, welcome to the community. If you are asking to update specifically > your > > Powerbook. First, see if it already has BT. > > > > Go to Apple Menu, then About this Mac. Click the button "More Info" and > > scroll down. That's like device manager in Windows. It'll tell you what > > components you have. > > > > If you do not have BT installed, it may be a costly venture to add it to > > your powerbook. An option though is to get a "Bluetooth Dongle". These are > > cheap and plug into a USB port on your PB, > > > > You will not need any drivers if the PB is running 10.4.2 and above (if my > > memory serves me well). > > > > If you are looking for a new machine, BT is a build to order option on all > > laptops. > > > > Hope this is helpful. > > > > David > > > > ps. Let us know if you need a dongle recommendation. > > > > > > On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Sam Ami wrote: > > > > thanks will do exactly that.... i'm new to the mac community so just > > feeling my way around > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Ed Stevens > > wrote: > > > > > > > why don't you download the free program mactracker from links at > > > macupdate.com or versiontracker.com and look into the models you wish to > > > learn about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------- > > > Sincerely, > > > Ed Stevens > > > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Sam Ami wrote: > > > if i were to upgrade my powerbook g4 17", would i still expect to have > > > bluetooth access? > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Titanium mailing list > > > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Titanium mailing list > > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Titanium mailing list > > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > From ddelmonte at mac.com Wed Apr 30 05:23:29 2008 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David Delmonte) Date: Wed Apr 30 05:23:50 2008 Subject: [Ti] bluetooth? In-Reply-To: References: <640E27EB-7F8C-4247-8C0C-359BD7B3AA14@earthlink.net> <458AF33A-49FD-476A-B52A-0B1ABE9D67C6@mac.com> <29AE48EE-602E-42E0-9351-CED25BFD71C5@mac.com> Message-ID: Did you determine that your computer has BT installed? If so, how? On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:29 AM, Sam Ami wrote: thaTS WHAT I THOUGHT BUT IT DOESN'T On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:17 PM, David Delmonte wrote: > If you computer has Leopard, it will support BT. > > David > > > > On Apr 30, 2008, at 2:47 AM, Sam Ami wrote: > > is anyone running leopard on the powerbook 17" 1.67Ghz > (powerbook5,7) ? > do you still have bluetooth ? > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:42 AM, David Delmonte > wrote: > >> Sam, welcome to the community. If you are asking to update >> specifically > your >> Powerbook. First, see if it already has BT. >> >> Go to Apple Menu, then About this Mac. Click the button "More Info" >> and >> scroll down. That's like device manager in Windows. It'll tell you >> what >> components you have. >> >> If you do not have BT installed, it may be a costly venture to add >> it to >> your powerbook. An option though is to get a "Bluetooth Dongle". >> These are >> cheap and plug into a USB port on your PB, >> >> You will not need any drivers if the PB is running 10.4.2 and above >> (if my >> memory serves me well). >> >> If you are looking for a new machine, BT is a build to order option >> on all >> laptops. >> >> Hope this is helpful. >> >> David >> >> ps. Let us know if you need a dongle recommendation. >> >> >> On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Sam Ami wrote: >> >> thanks will do exactly that.... i'm new to the mac community so just >> feeling my way around >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Ed Stevens >> >> wrote: >> >> >>> why don't you download the free program mactracker from links at >>> macupdate.com or versiontracker.com and look into the models you >>> wish to >>> learn about. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------- >>> Sincerely, >>> Ed Stevens >>> >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Sam Ami wrote: >>> if i were to upgrade my powerbook g4 17", would i still expect to >>> have >>> bluetooth access? >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Titanium mailing list >>> Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Titanium mailing list >> Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Titanium mailing list >> Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium From persip at gmail.com Wed Apr 30 16:24:13 2008 From: persip at gmail.com (Sam Ami) Date: Wed Apr 30 16:25:00 2008 Subject: [Ti] bluetooth? In-Reply-To: References: <640E27EB-7F8C-4247-8C0C-359BD7B3AA14@earthlink.net> <458AF33A-49FD-476A-B52A-0B1ABE9D67C6@mac.com> <29AE48EE-602E-42E0-9351-CED25BFD71C5@mac.com> Message-ID: the previous owner, who i just pruchased it from, with tiger installed, claimed that BT was working just fine... On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:23 PM, David Delmonte wrote: > Did you determine that your computer has BT installed? If so, how? > > > > > On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:29 AM, Sam Ami wrote: > > thaTS WHAT I THOUGHT BUT IT DOESN'T > > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:17 PM, David Delmonte wrote: > > > If you computer has Leopard, it will support BT. > > > > David > > > > > > > > On Apr 30, 2008, at 2:47 AM, Sam Ami wrote: > > > > is anyone running leopard on the powerbook 17" 1.67Ghz (powerbook5,7) ? > > do you still have bluetooth ? > > > > > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:42 AM, David Delmonte wrote: > > > > > > > Sam, welcome to the community. If you are asking to update specifically > > > > > your > > > > > Powerbook. First, see if it already has BT. > > > > > > Go to Apple Menu, then About this Mac. Click the button "More Info" and > > > scroll down. That's like device manager in Windows. It'll tell you what > > > components you have. > > > > > > If you do not have BT installed, it may be a costly venture to add it to > > > your powerbook. An option though is to get a "Bluetooth Dongle". These > are > > > cheap and plug into a USB port on your PB, > > > > > > You will not need any drivers if the PB is running 10.4.2 and above (if > my > > > memory serves me well). > > > > > > If you are looking for a new machine, BT is a build to order option on > all > > > laptops. > > > > > > Hope this is helpful. > > > > > > David > > > > > > ps. Let us know if you need a dongle recommendation. > > > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Sam Ami wrote: > > > > > > thanks will do exactly that.... i'm new to the mac community so just > > > feeling my way around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Ed Stevens > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > why don't you download the free program mactracker from links at > > > > macupdate.com or versiontracker.com and look into the models you wish > to > > > > learn about. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------- > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Ed Stevens > > > > > > > > > > > > On Apr 29, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Sam Ami wrote: > > > > if i were to upgrade my powerbook g4 17", would i still expect to have > > > > bluetooth access? > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Titanium mailing list > > > > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Titanium mailing list > > > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Titanium mailing list > > > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Titanium mailing list > > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Titanium mailing list > > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > From ddelmonte at mac.com Wed Apr 30 16:33:12 2008 From: ddelmonte at mac.com (David Delmonte) Date: Wed Apr 30 16:33:45 2008 Subject: [Ti] bluetooth? In-Reply-To: References: <640E27EB-7F8C-4247-8C0C-359BD7B3AA14@earthlink.net> <458AF33A-49FD-476A-B52A-0B1ABE9D67C6@mac.com> <29AE48EE-602E-42E0-9351-CED25BFD71C5@mac.com> Message-ID: <34A35461-0BA9-418C-9D9E-1E810E1DEC1A@mac.com> How can you tell it's not working? Do you know how to "pair" a device to the computer? David On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:24 PM, Sam Ami wrote: the previous owner, who i just pruchased it from, with tiger installed, claimed that BT was working just fine... On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 10:23 PM, David Delmonte wrote: > Did you determine that your computer has BT installed? If so, how? > > > > > On Apr 30, 2008, at 7:29 AM, Sam Ami wrote: > > thaTS WHAT I THOUGHT BUT IT DOESN'T > > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:17 PM, David Delmonte > wrote: > >> If you computer has Leopard, it will support BT. >> >> David >> >> >> >> On Apr 30, 2008, at 2:47 AM, Sam Ami wrote: >> >> is anyone running leopard on the powerbook 17" 1.67Ghz >> (powerbook5,7) ? >> do you still have bluetooth ? >> >> >> >> On Wed, Apr 30, 2008 at 9:42 AM, David Delmonte >> wrote: >> >> >>> Sam, welcome to the community. If you are asking to update >>> specifically >>> >> your >> >>> Powerbook. First, see if it already has BT. >>> >>> Go to Apple Menu, then About this Mac. Click the button "More >>> Info" and >>> scroll down. That's like device manager in Windows. It'll tell you >>> what >>> components you have. >>> >>> If you do not have BT installed, it may be a costly venture to add >>> it to >>> your powerbook. An option though is to get a "Bluetooth Dongle". >>> These > are >>> cheap and plug into a USB port on your PB, >>> >>> You will not need any drivers if the PB is running 10.4.2 and >>> above (if > my >>> memory serves me well). >>> >>> If you are looking for a new machine, BT is a build to order >>> option on > all >>> laptops. >>> >>> Hope this is helpful. >>> >>> David >>> >>> ps. Let us know if you need a dongle recommendation. >>> >>> >>> On Apr 29, 2008, at 7:31 PM, Sam Ami wrote: >>> >>> thanks will do exactly that.... i'm new to the mac community so just >>> feeling my way around >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 29, 2008 at 10:29 PM, Ed Stevens >> > >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>> why don't you download the free program mactracker from links at >>>> macupdate.com or versiontracker.com and look into the models you >>>> wish > to >>>> learn about. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------- >>>> Sincerely, >>>> Ed Stevens >>>> >>>> >>>> On Apr 29, 2008, at 8:00 AM, Sam Ami wrote: >>>> if i were to upgrade my powerbook g4 17", would i still expect to >>>> have >>>> bluetooth access? >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Titanium mailing list >>>> Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Titanium mailing list >>> Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Titanium mailing list >>> Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >>> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium >>> >>> >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Titanium mailing list >> Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Titanium mailing list >> Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com >> http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium >> >> > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > > _______________________________________________ > Titanium mailing list > Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium > _______________________________________________ Titanium mailing list Titanium@listserver.themacintoshguy.com http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/titanium