I also have used IOxperts cam drivers. I have a Logitech Pro 3000. the only hangup is that ichat AV is designed to work with FW cams only. The solution for me was to get ichatusbcam. It's shareware ($8 I think) and is now compatible with Panther. I found it on versiontracker.com. To make it run really well, it is suggested you also install APE, application enhancer. The links to this were included with ichatusbcam. Melinda ===== There are no stupid questions, just a lot of inquisitive idiots. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/