From techlists at comcast.net Wed Jan 31 18:46:31 2007 From: techlists at comcast.net (techlists@comcast.net) Date: Wed Jan 31 18:46:39 2007 Subject: [X-HW] Transferring OS X to a new hard drive Message-ID: <020120070246.7259.45C15487000309A900001C5B22007510909C9B9C0704080C0A9B@comcast.net> Hello, I recently inherited an iMac running OS X (one of those one piece, round back, blue iMacs). The current hard drive is rather small, around 10 gigs, slow (I'm guessing 5400 rpm), and making clicking noises (so it might be getting ready to fizzle out on me soon). I have a 20 gig, 7200 rpm drive that I'd like to stick in it, but don't have install CDs to re-install the OS. I have a USB external enclosure that I could stick the 20 gig drive in and plug the drive into the iMacs USB port. Is there a way to transfer the contents of the existing drive to the 20 gig drive, swap the drives, and have the new drive be bootable? On another related note, is there any limitations on drive size that can go into this system? i.e. could I stick in a 30 or 40 gig drive if I had one available? Thanks in advance, Paul Greene From tnoel at painless.org Wed Jan 31 19:15:30 2007 From: tnoel at painless.org (Thomas Noel) Date: Wed Jan 31 19:16:00 2007 Subject: [X-HW] Transferring OS X to a new hard drive In-Reply-To: <020120070246.7259.45C15487000309A900001C5B22007510909C9B9C0704080C0A9B@comcast.net> References: <020120070246.7259.45C15487000309A900001C5B22007510909C9B9C0704080C0A9B@comcast.net> Message-ID: <390B32A8-AD3D-4938-9062-15FE4C363441@painless.org> SuperDuper from (http://www.shirt-pocket.com/) will make an exact duplicate of the internal small drive contents to the larger external drive and make it boot-able. Then you can switch the two. The iMac you have can probably use up to a drive of 128 GB. On Jan 31, 2007, at 6:46 PM, techlists@comcast.net wrote: > Hello, > > I recently inherited an iMac running OS X (one of those one piece, > round back, blue iMacs). The current hard drive is rather small, > around 10 gigs, slow (I'm guessing 5400 rpm), and making clicking > noises (so it might be getting ready to fizzle out on me soon). > > I have a 20 gig, 7200 rpm drive that I'd like to stick in it, but > don't have install CDs to re-install the OS. I have a USB external > enclosure that I could stick the 20 gig drive in and plug the drive > into the iMacs USB port. Is there a way to transfer the contents of > the existing drive to the 20 gig drive, swap the drives, and have > the new drive be bootable? > > On another related note, is there any limitations on drive size > that can go into this system? i.e. could I stick in a 30 or 40 gig > drive if I had one available? > > Thanks in advance, > > Paul Greene From jjsiii at montana.net Wed Jan 31 19:23:02 2007 From: jjsiii at montana.net (Jens Selvig) Date: Wed Jan 31 19:23:15 2007 Subject: [X-HW] Transferring OS X to a new hard drive In-Reply-To: <390B32A8-AD3D-4938-9062-15FE4C363441@painless.org> References: <020120070246.7259.45C15487000309A900001C5B22007510909C9B9C0704080C0A9B@comcast.net> <390B32A8-AD3D-4938-9062-15FE4C363441@painless.org> Message-ID: Be careful. The iMac won't boot from the USB drive. You may need to delicately figure out a stratagy for getting the files over to the drive you actually intend on installing in the iMac. I assume you are running Panther which comes on CDs, and is pretty inexpensively purchased. Jens Jens Selvig ...lost in Montana... lstnmt@bresnan.net On Jan 31, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Thomas Noel wrote: > SuperDuper from (http://www.shirt-pocket.com/) will make an exact > duplicate of the internal small drive contents to the larger > external drive and make it boot-able. Then you can switch the two. > The iMac you have can probably use up to a drive of 128 GB. > > > On Jan 31, 2007, at 6:46 PM, techlists@comcast.net wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> I recently inherited an iMac running OS X (one of those one piece, >> round back, blue iMacs). The current hard drive is rather small, >> around 10 gigs, slow (I'm guessing 5400 rpm), and making clicking >> noises (so it might be getting ready to fizzle out on me soon). >> >> I have a 20 gig, 7200 rpm drive that I'd like to stick in it, but >> don't have install CDs to re-install the OS. I have a USB external >> enclosure that I could stick the 20 gig drive in and plug the >> drive into the iMacs USB port. Is there a way to transfer the >> contents of the existing drive to the 20 gig drive, swap the >> drives, and have the new drive be bootable? >> >> On another related note, is there any limitations on drive size >> that can go into this system? i.e. could I stick in a 30 or 40 gig >> drive if I had one available? >> >> Thanks in advance, >> >> Paul Greene From techlists at comcast.net Wed Jan 31 20:44:36 2007 From: techlists at comcast.net (Paul Greene) Date: Wed Jan 31 20:44:48 2007 Subject: [X-HW] Transferring OS X to a new hard drive In-Reply-To: References: <020120070246.7259.45C15487000309A900001C5B22007510909C9B9C0704080C0A9B@comcast.net> <390B32A8-AD3D-4938-9062-15FE4C363441@painless.org> Message-ID: <45C17034.80208@comcast.net> I don't need to boot from the external drive. If I can transfer the image over to the external drive, swap the drives, and the new drive will be bootable, I'll be good to go. Btw, in Finder | Help, it refers to "Tiger" and not "Panther". Tiger is a newer version than Panther, right? Paul Jens Selvig wrote: > Be careful. The iMac won't boot from the USB drive. You may need to > delicately figure out a stratagy for getting the files over to the > drive you actually intend on installing in the iMac. > > I assume you are running Panther which comes on CDs, and is pretty > inexpensively purchased. > > Jens > > > Jens Selvig > ...lost in Montana... > > lstnmt@bresnan.net > > > > On Jan 31, 2007, at 8:15 PM, Thomas Noel wrote: > >> SuperDuper from (http://www.shirt-pocket.com/) will make an exact >> duplicate of the internal small drive contents to the larger external >> drive and make it boot-able. Then you can switch the two. The iMac >> you have can probably use up to a drive of 128 GB. >> >> >> On Jan 31, 2007, at 6:46 PM, techlists@comcast.net wrote: >> >>> Hello, >>> >>> I recently inherited an iMac running OS X (one of those one piece, >>> round back, blue iMacs). The current hard drive is rather small, >>> around 10 gigs, slow (I'm guessing 5400 rpm), and making clicking >>> noises (so it might be getting ready to fizzle out on me soon). >>> >>> I have a 20 gig, 7200 rpm drive that I'd like to stick in it, but >>> don't have install CDs to re-install the OS. I have a USB external >>> enclosure that I could stick the 20 gig drive in and plug the drive >>> into the iMacs USB port. Is there a way to transfer the contents of >>> the existing drive to the 20 gig drive, swap the drives, and have >>> the new drive be bootable? >>> >>> On another related note, is there any limitations on drive size that >>> can go into this system? i.e. could I stick in a 30 or 40 gig drive >>> if I had one available? >>> >>> Thanks in advance, >>> >>> Paul Greene From sdunkle at pennswoods.net Wed Jan 31 23:49:09 2007 From: sdunkle at pennswoods.net (Stacy Dunkle) Date: Wed Jan 31 23:48:17 2007 Subject: [X-HW] Transferring OS X to a new hard drive In-Reply-To: <45C17034.80208@comcast.net> References: <020120070246.7259.45C15487000309A900001C5B22007510909C9B9C0704080C0A9B@comcast.net> <390B32A8-AD3D-4938-9062-15FE4C363441@painless.org> <45C17034.80208@comcast.net> Message-ID: <1170316149.45c19b753898e@webmail.pennswoods.net> Quoting Paul Greene : > I don't need to boot from the external drive. If I can transfer the > image over to the external drive, swap the drives, and the new drive > will be bootable, I'll be good to go. > > Btw, in Finder | Help, it refers to "Tiger" and not "Panther". Tiger is > a newer version than Panther, right? > > Paul Yes, Tiger is newer. Just some advice, the USB ports in a CRT iMac like that will be USB 1.1, which is rather slow, and thus the image will take a long time to make. If it's a slot-loading iMac, and 400mhz or faster, it should have firewire ports, which are much faster than the older USB 1.1, and thus you should try to get a firewire enclosure for the temporarily-external hard drive. Then later on if you want to burn CD's and/or DVD's on that iMac at a decent speed, you can put a burner in that firewire enclosure and use it for that. :) -Stace