Yeah Charles, I know what I just got isn't "modern" in those terms. But compared to the SE's, LC's, PowerCenter's, Performa's I'm used to running on the Mac side of things, it >IS< "modern", OK? What I meant was that it's the first machine supported as running OSX that I own. Does that help? I do (now) have "legal" disks not only for OSX 10.2.2, but also OS 9.1. But guess what? For some strange reason, I wouldn't be turning to YOU for help at this point if you were the only Mac user on the planet. (Somebody get the boy some PRUNE JUICE.) --- gm2 Glenn McGaha Miller Portfolio: http://www.visionary.nu Words & Thoughts: http://www.youknowtheysay.com Print Orders: http://visionary.photoreflect.com Sales: http://shop.auctionwatch.com/gm2 Local Voice: 970.498.0675 AIM: gm2inco ICQ: 10156065 MSN: gm2_in_co at hotmail.com Yahoo: gm2_in_co -----Original Message----- From: Mac OS X Newbies [mailto:X-Newbies at lists.themacintoshguy.com]On Behalf Of Charles Martin Sent: Tuesday, April 08, 2003 11:50 PM To: Mac OS X Newbies Subject: Re: [X Newbies] Newbie with a Newbie Problem > From: "Glenn McGaha Miller" <gm2 at visionary.nu> > So I buy this Beige G3 off eBay which is to be my first > foray into the "modern" era. You mean the "ancient" era. The beige G3 were phased out in 1997. That's *six years ago.* The only place that computer would be called "modern" is in a severely underfunded school system. That's prior to Windows 98 coming out. Geez, we Mac users really *are* ahead of the pack aren't we?? :) I mean, congrats on your purchase and I sincerely hope you enjoy it, but I would not under *any* circumstances compare it to a "modern" computer except possibly in the fact that you can run Mac OS X on it. > Said computer comes equipped > with two 4gb drives: One is 9.2.2 and the other is > "supposedly" 10.2. When I let this machine boot as it wants > to, there is momentarily a white background with an Apple > momentarily and then the slashed 0 symbol. Holding down "c" > while booting gets me into the 9.2.2 drive which then offers > to format the other. > > My question is, is the OsX drive toast or can something be > done to reclaim whatever is on it? If you do not have the original system CDs for this machine, you probably have an illegal copy of 10.2 (or whatever) on that other drive (actually, I wonder if you really have two drives; you probably have ONE hard drive with two *partitions* on it). I would recommend that you a) buy a copy of 9.2.2 or OS X (whichever you have the most interest in running) from a reputable dealer (yes, 9.2.2 is still available, just not from Apple). Then you should erase the hard drive(s) and install the OS of your choice. This will give you a fresh, clean, legal system with no problems that you can set to work the way you like. _Chas_ "That the PC world would doggedly stick to a dull, unimaginative, clinical term like 'IEEE 1394' (notice how it just rolls off the tongue - NOT) for the sole purpose of *saving a few pennies* over using an imaginative, exciting, visually-stimulating term like 'FireWire' tells you EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW about the PC world and that whole industry-wide mindset." - Me, March 2003 ---------- Check out the Mac OS X email list FAQ http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/X.html To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <X-Newbies-off at lists.themacintoshguy.com> To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to <X-Newbies-digest at lists.themacintoshguy.com> Need help from a real person? Try. <X-Newbies-request at lists.themacintoshguy.com> ---------- $14.99 Unlimited Nationwide Mac Dialup and Mac Web Hosting from your Mac ISP Serious Mac Internet Solutions From NineWire! http://macinternetaccess.com DVIator | Run Dual ADC displays on your G4 or just one on an older Mac! Dr. Bott | <http://www.drbott.com/prod/DVIator.html> Support | Support this list by clicking here before you buy! this List | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/support.html OS X News, Dr.Mac, Forums, Tutorials, Tips, Hints, FAQ?s - http://www.osxfaq.com