thanks. i'll start looking at this tomorrow i hope. also, i don't insist on using firewire and target disk. that is simply what was suggested to me here as the easiest way to move a bunch of applications and such over. i'm not attached to any one method just trying to make one machine mirror the other in most respects if networking would do i would be happy to learn how (tho i am broker than broke right now so it'd have to wait). the OS troubles all started after installing OS X.2 on top (i thought) of OS 9.2, but as i mentioned classic (which is 9.2 right?) won't launch now -- where did it go -- etc etc On Monday, September 15, 2003, at 06:29 PM, Florin Alexander Neumann wrote: > > On Monday, Sep 15, 2003, at 03:56 Canada/Eastern, John Lowther wrote: > >> i feel like i need to start over. from the beginning. but i don't >> know where that is exactly. >> >> now that i have the firewire cable and know about target disc mode >> and all that. can someone tell me how to safely wipe the G3 of >> *everything* and shift all the iMac stuff over to it. > > In a nutshell, you can't. Not the way you've tried (it looks like > you've just copied files in Finder, which will not work in OS X). Your > problem is that the G3 can't start in FW target mode, only the iMac > can. When you do that, the iMac functions like an external drive > attached to the G3, and you can't duplicate the OS from the iMac on > the G3. > > There are several solutions you can try; but, since you insist on > using FW, here's what I recommend: > > (1) Re-install OS X on the G3 (I assume you're using some version of > OS X 10.2). Boot your G3 from the OS X CD-ROM, and, prior to > installing, partition the G3's drive in two volumes (neither partition > should be less than 5 GB; at least one should be large enough to hold > the data from the iMac). Install OS X on the smaller partition. Create > user accounts with the same names and passwords as on the iMac. > > (2) Hook up your two Macs and boot with the iMac in FW target mode. > > (3) Use a dedicated utility (such as Carbon Copy Cloner, Retrospect, > etc.) to duplicate the iMac's hard drive to the larger of the G3's two > partitions. That's very important; trying to copy in Finder will not > work correctly. > > (4) Set your startup disk to the partition which is the duplicate of > the iMac drive and reboot. Once you are sure everything works, you can > delete the OS X software from the other partition, or, I'd suggest, > keep it as an emergency boot partition. > > f > > > ---------- > Check out the Mac OS X email list FAQ > http://www.themacintoshguy.com/lists/X.html > > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: <X-Newbies-off at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > To switch to the DIGEST mode, E-mail to > <X-Newbies-digest at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > Need help from a real person? Try. > <X-Newbies-request at lists.themacintoshguy.com> > > ---------- > $14.99 Unlimited Nationwide Mac Dialup and Mac Web Hosting from your > Mac ISP Serious Mac Internet Solutions From NineWire! > http://macinternetaccess.com > > DVIator | Run Dual ADC displays on your G4 or just one on an older > Mac! Dr. Bott | <http://www.drbott.com/prod/DVIator.html> > > Support | Support this list by clicking here before you buy! > this List | http://www.themacintoshguy.com/support.html > > OS X News, Dr.Mac, Forums, Tutorials, Tips, Hints, FAQ?s - > http://www.osxfaq.com >