First the pleasant part: How do I get Classic to work in the admin and in another user. My G4 was used recently on a job site and a new user was created so people would not be able to get into my normal system. However, Classic would only work on one user at a time. I read the KB info but I don't understand what it is saying or the toggles it suggests still do not allow two versions of Classic on one computer. What is the correct way of setting this up? Now the gripe: Is it unreasonable to think that when I finally upgraded to OSX (Panther) I would be getting the latest versions of the basic Apple suite? I was really steamed when iPhoto would not allow an upgrade to 4.1 from software I purchased only 4 months ago. IMHO, Apple is pushing their clients into the PC camp by pulling marketing strategies like this. A fully-equipped, still to arrive, G5 is going to cost considerably more than a custom-built PC that has exactly what I need. End of rant. Any help on the Classic issue would be greatly appreciated. Carter Tomassi