On May 29, 2005, at 01:36, Charles Martin wrote: > but any Mac owner should know right off the bat that 1-800 numbers and > mail order (along with cool sites like dealmac.com and lists like this > one) are going to be his or her best friend over the years. It seems to me our American friends sometimes forget to consider that things don't always work in the rest of the world as they do in the US. The OP came from an address in Indonesia. I don't know what the Mac situation is in Indonesia, but, from my experience, outside the "first world", and especially outside North America, with a few exceptions, Macs represent an even smaller segment of the market. Mac dealers are few and far between; moreover, although, on average, people earn less (sometimes a great deal less), computing equipment in general is more expensive. Ordering computer equipment from abroad is not always a realistic option -- adding shipping costs and customs duties can sometimes effectively double the expense. Even when it is, a lot of people in those countries do not have credit cards; and, even when they do, many online retailers do not accept credit card payments from certain countries, because of the high level of credit card fraud there. So, all-in-all, have little more patience with Mac users who happen to live in less privileged areas. <0x0192>