At 4:34 PM -0400 10/25/05, Vincent Cayenne wrote: >Try using Font Finagler to rebuild the font caches and Font Book to >search for and disable damaged fonts. Sorry to skimp on details but >I'm between meetings... OK, now that I have a few moments :-) : Font Finagler can be found at <http://www.macupdate.com/info.php/id/14470>. I'd try it first - it won't hurt any, and if it helps, you've saved a lot of trouble-shooting. Font Book should be used to check (via File--> Validate File...) both the Fonts folder in your top-level Library, as well as the set of fonts included with MS Office - they're in "/Applications/Microsoft Office 2004/Office/Fonts" in my install. note: I don't quite know what to make of reported problems with Fang Song and Song, as these have been reported damaged with every Tiger install I've ever checked. -- 'tis as said. [Reality is defined by being described]