david It sounds like your having a Òkernel panicÓ and that's not good. The missing manual book has some information on what to do but I would call apple soon. When it hapen to me I had to take it to my apple store - it cost me about $75 dollars or so - but my Mac is working again and they were able to safe the hard drive. Good luck! thefireguy -------------------------------------------------------------------- --- david_elmo <david_elmo at optusnet.com.au> wrote: > I just used software update on my QS 933 to get > latest on Tiger, just > the Mac OS update, about 28 MB. It said to restart > or shut down > afterwards. I said ok restart. QS went off as usual > and then on but > just froze screen with that Xish icon at the centre, > no spinning > mouse curser or anything no matter moving the mouse. > I had to switch > off at the power! (What else can one do ? On my old > 7300 I had escape > keys and power buttons.). Anyway, restarting did not > help. I held > option down and picked to start in 9 and it did but > had to check/ > repair the 9 volume as it had noticed it had not > been shut down > properly. At least the machine noticed something! > > I simply chose my X vol in startup control panel and > restarted and > this time it fired up in reasonably short order. > There is no proper > message about "your new update has been loaded or is > being... " then > or before. > > Last time I updated Tiger (a whopping overnight > download on dial up!) > it restarted fine allbeit taking its time. I take it > that no cursor > and no sound from the tower for minutes on end (I > reckon 10) meant it > was frozen? Iam talking after the download is all > over and I am > trying to restart... > > Anyone else experience trouble of this kind in > online updates? Any > safer ways of doing it? Maybe i should have chosen > "shut down" from > the two options given when the download was complete > (from the > software update facility)? Why exactly is there not > a third option > like "do this later"? Why can't one _not_ drop one's > dialup and > continue working and next time one restarts, the > software will do its > embedding? Why is the download in such a hurry? Will > the machine > definitely forget to load the new if it does not > hurry? > > Excuse me. I now feel a bit better. But still > puzzled. > > David Elmo > _______________________________________________ > X-Newbies mailing list > X-Newbies at listserver.themacintoshguy.com > http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/x-newbies > > Listmom is trying to clean out his closets! Vintage > Mac and random stuff: > http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZmacguy1984 >